Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 04:30:01 PST
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TCP-Group Digest            Fri, 11 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue   39

Today's Topics:
                             Euro ISDN-2
                   Forwards BBS with WNOS (2 msgs)
                     Forwards BBS with WNOS (fwd)
                                PMNOS
                    Replacing 8250's with 16550's:
                       TCP-Group Digest V94 #38
                          Windows FTP Client

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:15:51 CET
From: "Jack Stiekema, PE0MOT" <JACK@vic1.victron.nl>
Subject: Euro ISDN-2
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Anyone out there with experience on routing IP packets trough ISDN?



Kind regards,
Jack
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Victron bv   POB 31   9700 AA Groningen   Holland  |
|   phone: +31 50 446222   fax: +31 50 424107        |
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 11:46:13 MET
From: jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es
Subject: Forwards BBS with WNOS
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

It's posible to select when the host.hlp (connect presentation) must exit.
When a AX25 BBS want to forward mesg to me i would like that the host.hlp not
execut. The FBB system has a flags who permits that ... and Wnos?

Thanks a lot 
73 Curro eb3aod

e-mail : jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 11:39:32 GMT
From: Mike Chace <mikec@praxis.co.uk>
Subject: Forwards BBS with WNOS
To: jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es

>>>>> Regarding Forwards BBS with WNOS; jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es adds:

    jgrau> It's posible to select when the host.hlp (connect presentation)
    jgrau> must exit.  When a AX25 BBS want to forward mesg to me i would like
    jgrau> that the host.hlp not execut. The FBB system has a flags who
    jgrau> permits that ... and Wnos?

 You cannot prevent host.hlp (part of the login banner) from
 being sent to a connecting station.

 The fact that host.hlp always gets sent shouldn't affect any
 forwarding BBS assuming that you dont have the ">" character
 appearing in the text of the host.hlp file. 

 The login banner can be as big as you like, the forwarding BBS
 should ignore it all until it sees ">" followed by a carriage
 return.

 If FBB cannot cope with this, it has a problem!

 Mike (G6DHU)
 ****

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:58:27 MET
From: jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es
Subject: Forwards BBS with WNOS (fwd)
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

>>>>> Regarding Forwards BBS with WNOS; jgrau@rigel.etse.urv.es adds:

    jgrau> It's posible to select when the host.hlp (connect presentation)
    jgrau> must exit.  When a AX25 BBS want to forward mesg to me i would like
    jgrau> that the host.hlp not execut. The FBB system has a flags who
    jgrau> permits that ... and Wnos?

 You cannot prevent host.hlp (part of the login banner) from
 being sent to a connecting station.

 The fact that host.hlp always gets sent shouldn't affect any
 forwarding BBS assuming that you dont have the ">" character
 appearing in the text of the host.hlp file. 

 The login banner can be as big as you like, the forwarding BBS
 should ignore it all until it sees ">" followed by a carriage
 return.

 If FBB cannot cope with this, it has a problem!

 Mike (G6DHU)
 ****

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 14:15:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: PMNOS
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Cc: P.vanderPost@ET.TUDelft.NL

In a msg on <Feb 08 08:04>, Peter van der Post writes:

 PvdP> Together with a lot of other OS/2 users, I would very much like 
 PvdP> to know if Walt is still working on it. He made some 
 PvdP> promises about an SCC driver, which is at the top of my 
 PvdP> PMNOS wish list, hi.

I don't recall Walt committing himself to do an SCC driver.  You may be
confused, since I said that an OS/2 SCC driver is a high priority for me also,
and I have worked on it on and off.  I was originally going to use the Linux
SCC driver for a model, but that proved less then helpful.

There are two broadly different approaches possible.  One way of doing the SCC
driver is as a formal NDIS-MAC driver, so that it would be accessible to
standard TCP/IP implementations such as IBM's $150 special.  The other approach
would be to buffer the I/O through a virtual device driver so as to eliminate
the hardware timing dependencies involved in running standard (not PM) NOS in a
DOS window.  Using the VDD approach has one big advantage in that it would
allow any DOS software that uses an SCC to work under OS/2, including G8BPQ. 
(Making G8BPQ operate with OS/2 native interprocess communication is another
project of mine.)

I actually have regular N1BEE NOS running on my DRSI system in a DOS window,
and receiving works fairly well.  The big problem has proved to be
transmitting, since the 8530 will send flags and trash the outgoing frame if it
is not kept well fed.

-- Mike

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:10:43 mdt
From: ka7oei@uugate.wa7slg.ampr.org
Subject: Replacing 8250's with 16550's:
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Gordon, k7hfv, offered the following suggestion:

***  Quote mode on  ***


On 16550's vs 8250's, the only pins that differ appear to be 24 and 29.
On the 16550 they are the DMA control pins, TXRDY*, and RXRDY*, respectively.
They are both outputs, so all you probably have to do is make sure they
aren't connected to anything.  On the 8250, 24 is chip-select-out which
was not used in the original PC implementation, and I'm not just sure
why anyone would ever use it.  If a board does, though, you might be
in trouble.  Pin 29 on the 8250 was a no-connect.  Creative board
layer-outers might have used it for a via, though.

Good luck,
  Gordon

***  Quote mode off  ***

I have done so and it has functioned perfectly in an 8250 (XT-based)
board for several weeks now.

Basically, one just needs to bend pins 24 and 29 so they don't make contact
with the socket.

Again, you would want to drop a 16550 in, in place of the original 8250
if you are running NOS with a serial port faster than 4800 or 9600 baud
to prevent dropping characters...

Most versions of NOS will automatically recognize the 16550 and enables its
FIFOs.

<Clint>

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 04:30:05 PST
From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@UCSD.EDU>
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #38
To: tcp-group-digest@UCSD.EDU

TCP-Group Digest            Thu, 10 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue   38

Today's Topics:
                        A question about UUCP
                  Silent Key -- Andy Freeborn, N0CCZ
                       TCP-Group Digest V94 #37

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:27:00 EST
From: "Ray Fleischmann (305) 761-7535" <FLEISCR@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: A question about UUCP
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Hello all,
   I know that this is the wrong place to ask this question about UUCP
but I hope that you will forgive me.
   I am trying to set up a UUCP connection. I have put the entry into
the Systems file. when I use the "cu -d hostname"  command the modem
does dial and I get a connection. The problem is that the Login script 
does not seem to be executed. When I type the script data in manually
it works fine.
   Does anyone have any ideas.
Thanks
Ray Fleischmann
fleiscr@mail.firn.edu

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:30:37 -0700
From: bdale@gag.com (Bdale Garbee)
Subject: Silent Key -- Andy Freeborn, N0CCZ
To: amsatbb@amsat.org, arrl@amsat.org, bdale@col.hp.com, bod@amsat.org,

More information on silent key N0CCZ, copied without permission from the
Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, 9 February 1994.  Any mistakes are 
probably my typos.  Many folks have called John WD0FHG and me asking for more
information, this is what we know:

"Col. Andrew Warren Freeborn, 71, a career Air Force officer, died Feb 5, 1994,
at a Colorado Springs hospice.

The funeral will be held at 9am Friday at First Lutheran Church, 1515 N. 
Cascade Ave., with the Rev. Paul Peel officiating.  Burial will be at Fort 
Logan National Cemetary, Denver.

Friends may call from 3 to 9pm Thursday at Swan-Law Funeral Home, 501 
N. Cascade Ave.

Col. Freeborn was born June 17, 1922, in McVille, ND, to Herbert Boyd and
Rose Elizabeth (Lane) Freeborn.  

He was married July 3, 1944, in Pocatello, Idaho, to Verena M. Keller, who
survives.  He also is survived by two sons, Michael Arlington of Heights, Ill,
and Chris of Denver; a sister, Gloria Fridrich of Lompoc, CA; and five
grandchildren.  He had a brother, Herbert, who is deceased.

Col. Freeborn had lived in Colorado Springs since 1964 and was a member of
East Colorado Springs Rotary, past president of Tucson Amateur Packet Radio,
host of the 347th Fighter Squadron reunion in 1993, a contributor to the 
Microsat Project, and an active member of First Lutheran Church.

He served in the Air Force from 1943 to 1972 and was a prisoner of war.  He
received the Legion of Merit, and the Purple Heart.

Memorial contributions may be made to First Lutheran Church Memorial Fund,
1515 N. Cascade Ave., or the to the American Cancer Society, 1445 N. Union
Blvd., B100, Colorado Springs, CO, 80909."



I'd like to add just a bit.  N0CCZ was the first non-hotel-employee I talked
to on 22 June 1986 when I arrived in Colorado Springs to work for HP.  Like
any fanatic, I set up the packet gear before unpacking the rest of the car,
and found N0CCZ-1, a digipeater on Pikes Peak.  Andy saw my AX.25 connect,
and hit me right back when I disconnected from the digi.  What began that
afternoon was a friendship and working relationship that included our having
the first-ever TCP/IP connection using KISS TNC's later that year (using code
for the TNC-2 that K3MC was writing and I was helping debug with the logic
analyzer in my back bedroom).  Andy introduced me to John Conner, WD0FHG, with
whom I have worked, and continue to work, on many things radio related and
not.  Andy was single-handedly responsible for convincing me to go
to my first TAPR annual meeting, talking me into running for the board, and
twisting my arm to serve as Vice President during part of his tenure as
President.  He did all the hard work organizing the ARRL Digital Conference
we held here in Colorado Springs a few years back.  His organizational skills
made a huge difference to TAPR at Dayton, where he was infamous for his
early-morning wake-up calls to folks who were scheduled to work the booth, 
insisting we join him for the breakfast buffet first.  And he was a mover and
shaker locally, involved with the Pikes Peak FM Association, of which I am now
chairman, superbly managing the membership records and being instrumental in
motivating this voice repeater association to become involved in packet.

Andy's leadership at TAPR is a significant part of why the organization still
exists.  He took over during a period of transition, and as Phil Karn KA9Q has
pointed out, his even temper and committment to the hobby helped to keep many
board meetings that might otherwise have been boxing matches under control
and productive.  Whether it was virtual circuits versus datagrams, the NET/ROM
controversy, or what to do when the 9600 baud and DSP projects got bogged
down, Phil is right in saying that Andy never let us forget that this was all
supposed to be a hobby, something that's all too easy to forget.

Andy was one of the finest individuals I have had the pleasure of knowing. 
He touched the lives of many of us in this hobby.  We're going to miss him, 
a lot.

73 - Bdale, N3EUA

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Date: Wed,  9 Feb 94 04:30:05 PST
From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@UCSD.EDU>
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #37
To: tcp-group-digest@UCSD.EDU

TCP-Group Digest            Wed,  9 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue   37

Today's Topics:
                             SNMP and NOS
                        Weather Fax Operations

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:26:15 -0600
From: "Brian K. Teravskis" <brian@smedley.telex.mn.org>
Subject: SNMP and NOS
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Hello all:

Is anyone out there working on incorporating SNMP and possibly
the RMON MIB into NOS. I use NOS primarily as a gateway box
between ethernet and radio. It would be nice to have remote
monitoring capability and to see the, albeit abysmal, network 
stats.

73's

Brian


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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:03:44 -0700 (GMT)
From: "Mr. Jade V. Thaveekij" <u3611506@abac.au.ac.th>
Subject: Weather Fax Operations
To: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@UCSD.EDU>,

Can anyone give me some hint on Weather Fax operation?  We're planning to 
show them in one of local exhibition on the coming Weekend.  I already 
have HF equipment, AEA-PK232MBX, and its faxing program. 

What I would like to know is, from what frequencies, what time, which 
satellite and the satellite statistics.

Jade V. Thaveekij       * Tel: +66 2 578 2533
HS1ZEB/N3JTV        * Fax: +66 2 578 0331
CQ Magazine and Satellite Thailand   * Data: +66 2 578 0330, v32b
monthly magazines       * All details are given on my own
Editorial Staff        * interest!  Not the Magazine itself

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 18:08:39 EST
From: "Shannon, Lew" <lshannon@wpdsmtp.daytonoh.NCR.COM>
Subject: Windows FTP Client
To: nos-bbs@hydra.carleton.ca, tcp-group@ucsd.edu

If you need a GUI based FTP client that works with NOS (I tested with 
Jnos).  Get a copy of ws_ftp.zip from ftp.usma.edu. I have tried it on both 
Ethernet and 19.2KB radio link to other Jnos systems.  It seems to run 
faster than the Jnos client and is one of the easiest to use programs I've 
found.  Supports drop-n-drag files as well.  The author is John Junod.

  Enjoy!,

    Lew K0RR 

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