Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 04:30:02 PST From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #32 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Fri, 4 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 32 Today's Topics: 220 Band Plan Request for Visual c++ and Visual Basic mail list server information. TAPR Annual Meeting Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 05:08:12 -0600 (CST) From: ssampson@sabea-oc.af.mil (Steve Sampson) Subject: 220 Band Plan To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu > It had been a part of Amateur plans > and expectations that the 220-222 MHz links would be > interconnected to achieve a high-speed nationwide > communications system funded and maintained by Amateurs. Thanks for uploading the text. I'm really confused by the ARRL's action here. Given that, on behalf of their members, they filed a lawsuit against the United States for the 220 band. Now years later they are are using more traditional methods of Petition to go after scraps. I don't think amateurs are ready for legal maneuvers yet. It's the cart before the horse (law before technology). Without ARRL funding, the interstate high speed packet issue is dead horse. A few Mega-Hertz in any band won't make magical networks appear. No money, no network. It's also a little revisionist. 220 was the band they gave to Novices because it was a wasteland. On the technology issue, while we're dreaming, I can argue that microwave links would be much more productive than 220 links. Why settle for 56kbps when you can have 10Mbps for the same price? Solution 1: Take the money from the legal fund and CW contests and give it to the digital working group to provide an interstate network before this decade is out. Solution 2: Take the money from the legal fund anyway. > One of our members was located in the California Earthquake area and we > were unable to communicate with him to achieve consensus on this part. So much for emergency ham communications :-) Guess he lost his CW key... --- Steve, n5owk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 09:42 CDT From: emillar@enlaces.ufro.cl (Eduardo Millar) Subject: Request for Visual c++ and Visual Basic mail list server information. To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu I am very interesting of using visual c++ o Visual basic like a development tool in packet radio aplications. I would like analize their advantage to build communication software for windows. Somebody could give a opinion about that. For this reason, I am looking for others mailing list server. If somebody knows any one, please send me the information Eduardo Millar C. e-mail:emillar@enlaces.ufro.cl emillar@ce6uf.radio.cl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 94 09:51:38 MST From: w6swe@w6swe.tapr.org (Bob Nielsen) Subject: TAPR Annual Meeting To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu TAPR 1994 Annual Meeting ------------------------ Join some of the brightest and most enthusiastic of today's packet pioneers at TAPR's annual meeting on March 4th, 5th, and 6th, 1994, in Tucson, Arizona. TAPR (Tucson Amateur Packet Radio), a non-profit research and development corporation, was instrumental in the development of the packet TNC and continues work on digital communications advancements and education. The meeting informally begins Friday afternoon with the opening of the hospitality suite and continues later that evening with dinner. Dinner is always low-key and provides a great opportunity for those who arrive Friday to discuss and chat about projects before the rest of the weekend begins. Friday evening, after dinner, the first meeting of the Regional Networkers Special Interest Group will be held. The annual meeting formally begins Saturday with presentations and papers on several exciting new hardware and software projects as well as discussion on other projects of interest throughout the day. A mini-symposium concerning future directions in amateur packet radio will be held during the afternoon session. Issues concerning packet networking and BBS operation are also anticipated. Saturday evening, after the TAPR dinner, will feature an open forum during which attendees will be given an opportunity to influence the future direction and research with which TAPR is involved. After the TAPR forum, the first meeting of the TAPR BBS Special Interest Group will be held. On Sunday, a special NOS TCP/IP workshop will be led by Johan Reinalda, WG7J/PA3DIS, principal author and developer of JNOS. Johan will also be available for more advanced discussions about JNOS and related activities. These are exciting times for packet and TAPR. This year's meeting should be a super-charging event for everyone who can attend! Call for Papers --------------- Papers are welcome from everyone. Although there is limited time during the weekend, all attempts will be made to allow those present to talk. Deadline for submission of papers is Monday, February 7th, 1994. Contact the TAPR office to request an author's information package. Contact Keith Justice, Program Chairman, (Internet: kf7tp@kf7tp.stat.com) for additional information. Meeting Place and Accommodations -------------------------------- The TAPR Annual Meeting, all presentations and meetings, will be held at the Best Western Inn at the Airport, 7060 South Tucson Boulevard, Tucson, Arizona 85706. Phone (602) 746-0271. The room rate is $54 per night, which includes a complimentary full American breakfast buffet and daily complimentary cocktails with hors d'oeuvres between 5 and 6 PM. Schedule of Events ------------------ Friday Afternoon, March 4th Registration Hospitality Suite Dinner Regional Networkers SIG Saturday, March 5th Registration Presentations Lunch Presentations / Symposium Dinner TAPR long-range planning session BBS SIG Sunday, March 6th Special TCP/IP Half-day Workshop conducted by Johan Reinalda, WG7J/PA3DIS Detailed conference information and schedule will be mailed to all pre-registered participants. Annual Meeting Registration Costs --------------------------------- (without dinner) (with dinner) Pre-Registration (before Feb 17th) $20.00 $34.00 Late Registration or at door $25.00 $39.00 * Annual Meeting Registration includes: A copy of the TAPR 1994 Proceedings Lunch Ticket for Saturday afternoon (limited space) * TAPR Dinner Saturday evening (limited space) Sunday NOS TCP/IP Half-day Workshop Cost ---------------------------------------- Pre-Registration (before Feb 17th) $10.00 Late Registration or at door $15.00 Workshop attendees receive a set of disks and workshop materials. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact the TAPR office by Phone, Fax, or e-mail (Internet: tapr@tapr.org) to pre-register or for additional meeting information. MasterCard and VISA accepted. TAPR * 8987-309 E Tanque Verde Rd #337 * Tucson, Az * 85749-9399 Office (817) 383-0000 * Fax (817) 566-2544 ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V94 #32 ****************************** ******************************