Date: Fri,  4 Feb 94 04:30:02 PST
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TCP-Group Digest            Fri,  4 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue   32

Today's Topics:
                            220 Band Plan
Request for Visual c++ and Visual Basic mail list server information.
                         TAPR Annual Meeting

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 05:08:12 -0600 (CST)
From: ssampson@sabea-oc.af.mil (Steve Sampson)
Subject: 220 Band Plan
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

> It had been a part of Amateur plans 
> and expectations that the 220-222 MHz links would be 
> interconnected to achieve a high-speed nationwide 
> communications system funded and maintained by Amateurs.

Thanks for uploading the text.

I'm really confused by the ARRL's action here.  Given that, on behalf of their
members, they filed a lawsuit against the United States for the 220 band.  Now
years later they are are using more traditional methods of Petition to go after
scraps.  I don't think amateurs are ready for legal maneuvers yet.  It's the
cart before the horse (law before technology).  Without ARRL funding, the
interstate high speed packet issue is dead horse.  A few Mega-Hertz in any band
won't make magical networks appear.  No money, no network.  It's also a little
revisionist.  220 was the band they gave to Novices because it was a wasteland.

On the technology issue, while we're dreaming, I can argue that microwave links
would be much more productive than 220 links.  Why settle for 56kbps when you
can have 10Mbps for the same price?

Solution 1:  Take the money from the legal fund and CW contests and give it to
the digital working group to provide an interstate network before this decade
is out.

Solution 2:  Take the money from the legal fund anyway.

> One of our members was located in the California Earthquake area and we
> were unable to communicate with him to achieve consensus on this part.

So much for emergency ham communications :-)  Guess he lost his CW key...
---
Steve, n5owk

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 09:42 CDT
From: emillar@enlaces.ufro.cl (Eduardo Millar)
Subject: Request for Visual c++ and Visual Basic mail list server information.
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

I am very interesting of using visual c++ o Visual basic like a development
tool in packet radio aplications. I would like analize their advantage to
build communication software for windows. Somebody could give a opinion
about that. For this reason, I am looking for others mailing list server. If
somebody knows any one, please send me the information

Eduardo Millar C.               e-mail:emillar@enlaces.ufro.cl
                                       emillar@ce6uf.radio.cl
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 94 09:51:38 MST
From: w6swe@w6swe.tapr.org (Bob Nielsen)
Subject: TAPR Annual Meeting
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

TAPR 1994 Annual Meeting
------------------------
Join some of the brightest and most enthusiastic of today's packet pioneers
at TAPR's annual meeting on March 4th, 5th, and 6th, 1994, in Tucson,
Arizona.  TAPR (Tucson Amateur Packet Radio), a non-profit research and
development corporation, was instrumental in the development of the packet
TNC and continues work on digital communications advancements and education.

The meeting informally begins Friday afternoon with the opening of the
hospitality suite and continues later that evening with dinner.  Dinner is
always low-key and provides a great opportunity for those who arrive Friday
to discuss and chat about projects before the rest of the weekend begins.
Friday evening, after dinner, the first meeting of the Regional Networkers
Special Interest Group will be held.

The annual meeting formally begins Saturday with presentations and papers on
several exciting new hardware and software projects as well as discussion on
other projects of interest throughout the day.  A mini-symposium concerning
future directions in amateur packet radio will be held during the afternoon
session.  Issues concerning packet networking and BBS operation are also
anticipated.  Saturday evening, after the TAPR dinner, will feature an open
forum during which attendees will be given an opportunity to influence the
future direction and research with which TAPR is involved.  After the TAPR
forum, the first meeting of the TAPR BBS Special Interest Group will be
held.

On Sunday, a special NOS TCP/IP workshop will be led by Johan Reinalda,
WG7J/PA3DIS, principal author and developer of JNOS.  Johan will also be
available for more advanced discussions about JNOS and related activities.

These are exciting times for packet and TAPR.  This year's meeting should be
a super-charging event for everyone who can attend!



Call for Papers
---------------
Papers are welcome from everyone.  Although there is limited time during the
weekend, all attempts will be made to allow those present to talk. Deadline
for submission of papers is Monday, February 7th, 1994.  Contact the TAPR
office to request an author's information package. Contact Keith Justice,
Program Chairman, (Internet: kf7tp@kf7tp.stat.com) for additional
information.



Meeting Place and Accommodations
--------------------------------
The TAPR Annual Meeting, all presentations and meetings, will be held at the
Best Western Inn at the Airport, 7060 South Tucson Boulevard, Tucson,
Arizona 85706. Phone (602) 746-0271.  The room rate is $54 per night, which
includes a complimentary full American breakfast buffet and daily
complimentary cocktails with hors d'oeuvres between 5 and 6 PM.


Schedule of Events
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 Friday Afternoon, March 4th
  Registration
  Hospitality Suite
  Dinner
  Regional Networkers SIG

 Saturday, March 5th
  Registration
  Presentations
  Lunch
  Presentations / Symposium
  Dinner
  TAPR long-range planning session
  BBS SIG

 Sunday, March 6th
  Special TCP/IP Half-day Workshop conducted by Johan Reinalda, 
  WG7J/PA3DIS

Detailed conference information and schedule will be mailed to all
pre-registered participants.


Annual Meeting Registration Costs
---------------------------------
                                      (without dinner)  (with dinner)
Pre-Registration (before Feb 17th)         $20.00          $34.00   
Late Registration or at door               $25.00          $39.00   

   * Annual Meeting Registration includes:
   A copy of the TAPR 1994 Proceedings
   Lunch Ticket for Saturday afternoon (limited space)

   * TAPR Dinner Saturday evening (limited space)


Sunday NOS TCP/IP Half-day Workshop Cost
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Pre-Registration (before Feb 17th)         $10.00
Late Registration or at door               $15.00
 Workshop attendees receive a set of disks and workshop materials.



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Contact the TAPR office by Phone, Fax, or e-mail (Internet: tapr@tapr.org)
to pre-register or for additional meeting information.  MasterCard and VISA
accepted.

TAPR * 8987-309 E Tanque Verde Rd #337 * Tucson, Az * 85749-9399
Office (817) 383-0000 * Fax (817) 566-2544

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