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TCP-Group Digest            Mon, 17 Jan 94       Volume 94 : Issue   13

Today's Topics:
                          JNOS and BPQ Code
                             NET and ISDN
                       search for latest pm-nos
                 TNC3 and TNC4 design by DL (2 msgs)

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 08:54:00 PST
From: Martin Lines <mlines@sni.co.uk>
Subject: JNOS and BPQ Code
To: ssampson <ssampson@sabea-oc.af.mil>

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From: ssampson
To: mlines
Cc: tcp-group
Subject: Re: JNOS and BPQ Code
Date: Friday, January 14, 1994 9:19AM



>My first suggestion would be to get rid of the BPQ code.  What does the BPQ
>code do that causes you to try and glue two pieces together like this?

Two reasons:

1.   A fully configured JNOS + BPQ system leaves me with 69K after boot. A 
fully configured
JNOS with NETROM included leaves me with 58K after boot, I only have a 286 
so I cannot do clever things with memory and every byte counts. There 
appears to be little or no performance impact to either LAN or Radio users.

2.   BPQ code is in widespread use (at least within UK) so first time users 
see an interface
they are familiar with. The welcome message then points them in the 
direction of the more
sophisticated tcp/ip world, hopefully they will become converts. At least 
they will not be
scared off at the first hurdle.


Martin - G1SEO

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 09:23:24 GMT+0200
From: "Jack Stiekema, PE0MOT" <JACK@vic1.victron.nl>
Subject: NET and ISDN
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Is it available or in development somewhere?

ISDN (euro isnd, isdn2) card in a pc (350 dollars) and a driver for
NOS to do slip or ppp.



Kind regards,
Jack
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Victron bv   POB 31   9700 AA Groningen   Holland  |
|   phone: +31 50 446222   fax: +31 50 424107        |
+----------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 94 21:55:47 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS%ESOC.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>
Subject: search for latest pm-nos
To: Thomas Otterbein <THOMAS@GIZMO.ROBIN.DE>, TCP-GROUP <TCP-GROUP@ucsd.edu>

This is were to get the latest version of PM-NOS,

You can also ftp it local to your host (dg8fbv.ampr.org) on 144.650
on my ftp server g8sau.ampr.org:/pub/OS-2

Where i have the same files as on UCSD.EDU ~/os2  dir...

But you will have to remove DC0HK from your 'F*& %N BUD!!' list to connect to
my tcpip system. !!!  ;-))

But here is the list of internet hosts in case you are not wanting to
connect to a LOCAL tcpip ham.!!



Host bongo.cc.utexas.edu   (128.83.186.13)
Last updated 03:08  3 Jan 1994

    Location: /microlib/os2/tcpip/.cap
      FILE      rw-r--r--        63  Dec 23 11:15   pmnos1dx.zip
    Location: /microlib/os2/tcpip
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    942762  Sep 20 14:49   pmnos11s.zip
    Location: /microlib/os2/tcpip/.cap
      FILE      rw-r--r--        63  Dec 23 11:15   pmnos1ds.zip
    Location: /microlib/os2/tcpip
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    421693  Sep 20 14:50   pmnos11x.zip

Host ftp.luth.se   (130.240.18.2)
Last updated 03:17  7 Jan 1994

    Location: /pub/pc/os2/last_week
      FILE      rw-------    421693  Oct 29 16:57   pmnos11x.zip
    Location: /pub/pc/os2/2.x/network
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    411266  Jun  6  1993   pmnos1dx.zip
    Location: /pub/pc/os2/2.x/comm
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Oct 29 16:06   pmnos11x.zip

Host hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de   (129.70.4.55)
Last updated 10:41 16 Jan 1994

    Location: /.mnt1/systems/os2/2_x/network
      FILE      r--r--r--    411266  May 22  1993   pmnos1dx.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Oct 16 03:44   pmnos11x.zip

Host huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au   (129.127.40.3)
Last updated 07:41  8 Jan 1994

    Location: /pub/ka9q/os2
      FILE      r--r--r--    843122  Jan 17  1993   pmnos1ds.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--    377128  Jan 17  1993   pmnos1dx.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--       134  Jan 17  1993   pmnos1dx.txt.Z
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Sep 20 04:27   pmnos11x.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--       104  Jan 17  1993   pmnos1ds.txt.Z
      FILE      r--r--r--       154  Sep 20 04:53   pmnos11s.txt.Z
      FILE      r--r--r--       147  Sep 20 04:28   pmnos11x.txt.Z
      FILE      r--r--r--    942762  Sep 20 04:50   pmnos11s.zip

Host luga.latrobe.edu.au   (131.172.2.2)
Last updated 04:15 25 Dec 1993

    Location: /archive-disk2/os2/2_x/network
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Oct 16 11:44   pmnos11x.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--    411266  May 22  1993   pmnos1dx.zip

Host sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de   (139.174.2.10)
Last updated 03:51 16 Jan 1994

    Location: /pub/specials/ham-radio/tcpip/os2
      FILE      rw-r--r--    377128  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos1dx.zip
      FILE      rw-r--r--    421693  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos11x.zip
      FILE      rw-r--r--    942762  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos11s.zip
      FILE      rw-r--r--       136  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos1dx.txt
      FILE      rw-r--r--       104  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos1ds.txt
      FILE      rw-r--r--       150  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos11x.txt
      FILE      rw-r--r--    843122  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos1ds.zip
      FILE      rw-r--r--       157  Nov 21 18:32   pmnos11s.txt

Host sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de   (129.206.100.126)
Last updated 03:58 16 Jan 1994

    Location: /
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    411266  May 22  1993   pub/os2/2_x/network/pmnos1dx
.zip
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    421693  Oct 16 01:44   pub/os2/2_x/network/pmnos11x
.zip

Host swdsrv.edvz.univie.ac.at   (131.130.1.4)
Last updated 07:30 16 Jan 1994

    Location: /os2/hobbes/2_x/network
      FILE      r--r--r--    411266  Nov 27 20:08   pmnos1dx.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Nov 27 20:11   pmnos11x.zip

Host ucsd.edu   (128.54.16.1)
Last updated 10:27 16 Jan 1994

    Location: /hamradio/packet/tcpip/os2
      FILE      r--r--r--    377128  Jan 16  1993   pmnos1dx.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--       157  Sep 19 19:23   pmnos11s.txt
      FILE      r--r--r--    421693  Sep 19 18:57   pmnos11x.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--    843122  Jan 16  1993   pmnos1ds.zip
      FILE      r--r--r--       104  Jan 16  1993   pmnos1ds.txt
      FILE      r--r--r--       150  Sep 19 18:58   pmnos11x.txt
      FILE      r--r--r--       136  Jan 16  1993   pmnos1dx.txt
      FILE      r--r--r--    942762  Sep 19 19:20   pmnos11s.zip


 ++++
 Regards: Barry gm8sau/dc0hk  44.131.16.61 + 44.130.24.71
 Banned from the German packet network for useing TCPIP on IT.
 ++++

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 10:03:52 +1030 (CST)
From: gwillis@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
Subject: TNC3 and TNC4 design by DL
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

I dont have the info immeadiately to hand but I have seen descriptions
of two TNCs designed in Germany, a TNC3 and TNC4 which use some of
the motorola communications processors. If I can find the info I will
post it to the group.

Cheers de Grant VK5ZWI - Adelaide, South Australia
--
Grant Willis - VK5 WIA, SCARC, SAPUG        | Around here, talking to
Internet: gwillis@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au   | yourself is a sign of Sanity!
Packet Radio: VK5ZWI@VK5TTY.#ADL.#SA.AUS.OC +------------------------------
Disclaimer: Thoughts expressed here are not those of any organisation.

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 13:42:36 +1100
From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Subject: TNC3 and TNC4 design by DL
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

At 12:35 PM 17/1/94 -0000, gwillis@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au wrote:

> I dont have the info immeadiately to hand but I have seen descriptions
> of two TNCs designed in Germany, a TNC3 and TNC4 which use some of
> the motorola communications processors. If I can find the info I will
> post it to the group.

I think you'll find that what you are talking about is the DSP project. 
They have recently released the DSP4 modem after they redesigned their DSP3
modem because some of the parts became very hard to get.


Carl.

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Internet:    makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Packet:      vk1kcm@vk1kcm.act.aus.oc
Work Phone:  +61 6 289-8443
"Words contained herein are DEFINITELY not official!"

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