Date: Fri, 15 Oct 93 04:30:01 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #268 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Fri, 15 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 268 Today's Topics: Packet Standards Undeliverable Mail Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 14:35:44 -0600 (MDT) From: William Ti Baggett <wbaggett@nmsu.edu> Subject: Packet Standards To: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 11:44:57 BST > From: eeyimkn@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (Mike Knell) > Subject: Packet Standards > To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu > > (Copy to: tcp-group@ucsd.edu, rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc, AUTHOR@WW) > > Hi people, > At the recent UK Sysop's meeting, it was decided that it was time to > start working towards a unified system for the publication of the > various standards used in packet. I, for my sins, have been given this > job :-) > > At the moment, it can be difficult or impossible to find those > standards documents that do exist for packet radio, as they have > either never been written or are tucked away on obscure FTP archives.. > When a new software author wants to find out how the forwarding > protocols work, and the real nitty-gritty such as "how many characters > may a BID have?" it can be impossible to find out. It's a shame, as > this will only breed lots of new mutually incompatible systems. We've > seen the beginning of this already with the FBB/NNA forwarding thing, > and the BID question provoked a huge flamewar recently on the UK > network.. :-( > I agree with this 100%!!! A few days ago I mailed out a request for the protocol specifications for Netrom/Thenet for a paper I am writing for school. So far I've had 14 replies, all but one saying that they want to read my paper and one reply telling me to look at NOSintro and NOSVIEW. I have also been told that the Computer Networking Conference papers are worth looking into, but there's not much ham radio stuff in a university library (besides QST's back into the twenties). Without our packet protocols written down in stone, how is anyone going to develope more software? I'm finding it hard just to write a paper. So far its the GRINOS manual, Comer's Internetworking with TCP/IP book, Tannenbaum's (sp?) networks book, and a copy of the AX.25 spec that I've got. Again, if anyone knows where I can find some information, I'd greatly appreciate it. A search for 'netrom' in our library just results in the computerized card catalog letting out some chuckles. 73, Tim ******************************************************************** Tim Baggett, AA5DF Electrical Engineering Student New Mexico State University Internet: WBAGGETT@DANTE.NMSU.EDU AMPR: AA5DF@NMSUGW.AMPR.ORG US Snail: 1970 Buchanan Avenue Twisted Pair: (505) 523-6829 Las Cruces, NM 88001 ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 12:48:06 -0400 From: NDHM X400 </G=X400/S=NDHM/O=GTEGOVSYS/PRMD=GTEGS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@gtespace.ndhm.gtegsc.com> Subject: Undeliverable Mail To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Message: TCP-Group Digest V93 #267 Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 1993 11:47 AM To: Ross Jr Charlie On Server: NDHM 6 Date: Thu, Oct 14, 1993 12:49 PM Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server could not be found. ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V93 #268 ****************************** ******************************