Date: Sun, 29 Aug 93 04:30:06 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #221 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Sun, 29 Aug 93 Volume 93 : Issue 221 Today's Topics: NOS in NT VDM tcp syndata (4 msgs) Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 21:12:06 -0500 (EDT) From: djt@hoccny.ho.att.com (David J.Trulli) Subject: NOS in NT VDM To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu I tried to run JNOS107b under NT in a DOS VDM. I tried this with an empty autoexec.nos file and find that NT reports an illegal instruction at CS:0000 IP:00A8 OP:f004b5cbb8 This occurs before any output to the screen. I think is occurs when NOS set up a new proc but I am not sure yet. Before I start debugging this has anyone tired this yet ? Dave -- Dave Trulli djt@hogpa.att.com or David.J.Trulli@att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories 908-949-3185 101 Crawford Corner Road Room 3L-410 Holmdel NJ. 07733 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 93 16:46:17 EDT From: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu (Ron Atkinson - N8FOW) Subject: tcp syndata To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Is tcp syndata something standard or is it something that should be avoided? Wondering how legal it is to send data on the syn frames. It has always worked fine for me and the packet <> internet gateway here, but recently someone switched one of the SunOS systems over to Solaris and now SMTP messages won't work with NOS. The Solaris system gets a protocol error when it sees data on the syn frames. Would like to know who should get the gripes, NOS or Solaris :-) Ron N8FOW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 19:04:44 -0400 From: "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@NI.umd.edu> Subject: tcp syndata To: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu (Ron Atkinson - N8FOW) Sending data in a TCP segment along with a SYN flag is completely legal. The Solaris system should either ACK the SYN's sequence number and ignore the data, or ACK the SYN as well as the associated data. It sure sounds like the Solaris end is broken, in the absense of any other information. louie wa3ymh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 20:18:18 -0600 (CDT) From: lcz@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (Lee Ziegenhals) Subject: tcp syndata To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu > Is tcp syndata something standard or is it something that should be >avoided? Wondering how legal it is to send data on the syn frames. > It has always worked fine for me and the packet <> internet gateway here, >but recently someone switched one of the SunOS systems over to Solaris and >now SMTP messages won't work with NOS. The Solaris system gets a protocol >error when it sees data on the syn frames. > Would like to know who should get the gripes, NOS or Solaris :-) This is a bug in SVR4, so I suspect Solaris is the same. It has been a frustration for me in the past, as we use SVR4 on almost all of our Unix systems at work. I can't do TCP between them and any NOS node that has syndata enabled. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 93 19:19:23 -0700 From: karn@qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) Subject: tcp syndata To: louie@NI.umd.edu, ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu I made sending data along with a SYN a configurable option in NOS precisely because there are some other TCPs that are broken. They should accept data with a SYN, but they don't. Another reason to flush Solaris... Phil ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V93 #221 ****************************** ******************************