Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 04:30:05 PDT
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TCP-Group Digest            Sat, 21 Aug 93       Volume 93 : Issue  215

Today's Topics:
                        cb.ampr.org? (2 msgs)
                         Drsi Board Settings
                           Lunch  (2 msgs)
                              NT is out

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 12:43:56 MDT
From: pa0gri@tophat.cdh.cdc.com
Subject: cb.ampr.org?
To: eichin@Athena.MIT.EDU (Mark W. Eichin)

Hello All, 
> Somewhere recently I saw a reference to a "cb.ampr" network; it was in
> an /etc/networks file for some linux release, I believe... it listed
> net 44.x.x.x as ampr.org, and net 26 (or 22?) as cb.ampr.org... The
> last "registered numbers" rfc I saw showed that as a -TMP network for
> some company, so it could have been reallocated, but does anyone know
> if this is actually in use?
>     _Mark_ <eichin@athena.mit.edu> N1DPU
>     MIT Student Information Processing Board
>     Cygnus Support <eichin@cygnus.com>
> 
A group of Dutch hackers ( domain hacktic.nl) use CB radio for their
communications. As good hackers do, they steal a domain, address range
and access to the "real thing". They found that ipswich.wa2hee.ampr.org
is an open gateway and use it to fake access  (call cb0cbm).
I have closed the Dutch gateway for the ipswich gateway. I do hope others
close off their systems as well. 
Regards, Gerard.
PS, I hope I have rhe wa2 part of the offending gateway correct. I pulled
it from top of my memory.

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 11:37:01 EDT
From: mg@bds.com
Subject: cb.ampr.org?
To: pa0gri@tophat.cdh.cdc.com

>They found that ipswich.wa2hee.ampr.org
>is an open gateway and use it to fake access  (call cb0cbm).

ipswich has been closed to such naughtiness since Aug 4th.  We
disabled access to ipswich from the internet after someone pointed it
out.  There haven't been any bogus logins since then.  Please see if
it's really a problem before "closing it off".  If it still offends,
please let me know by email to sysop@wa2hee.ampr.org.  (The complaint
I got came in via ttylink, not email, and I only heard about it second
hand, so I didn't even know who to thank!)

mg

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 21:50:32 CST
From: kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org
Subject: Drsi Board Settings
To: tcp-Group@ucsd.edu

Anyone have any suggestions for PARAM 1 - X for DRSI boards? I'm having all
kinds of problems talking to a system that's using DRSI bards. Don't seem
to have problems talking to other systems. I can hear the signals and they
are s-8, but my box is not decoding them. I can decode the small - ack type -
packets, but once it goes to > 128 bytes, I can't decode anything. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 

73's  de  Jack  -  kf5mg   ( running JNOS in a 735K - OS/2 2.1 Dos Box! )
Internet        -  kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org            -  44.28.0.14
AX25net         -  kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.noam    -  home (817) 488-4386
Worknet         -  kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com              -  work (817) 962-4409
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 08:55:52 PDT
From: "Jeffrey D. Angus" <jangus@skyld.tele.com>
Subject: Lunch 
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

On Fri, 20 Aug 93 04:30:04 PDT, "Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group"

Brian Sez:

> watering hole and food trough.  Jeff Angus has cordially agreed to pick
> up the tab except that he can't because he won't be there, so we'll
> just have to talk nasty about him instead of abusing his wallet.
>       - Brian

Ooh I love it when you talk dirty about me. 

And David Sez:

>   I don't have a clue who you are, but I'll be attending a tutorial session
> thursday. I have to check the schedule to when lunchtime is.

Well, at least *I* know who Brian is.

We now return programming to the usual holywars concerning protocol and
platforms.

Note to humor-impaired; Are you that humorless that you will waste even more
   bandwidth complaining about my wasting bandwidth?

73 es GA from Jeff
-- 
 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: jangus@skyld.tele.com          |  universe run by a single omni-
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |  potent god. I see it more as a
   Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080               |  badly run corporation."

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 12:15:00 PDT
From: "Roy Engehausen (8-457-2712)" <enge@almaden.ibm.com>
Subject: Lunch
To: TCP-GROUP@UCSD.EDU

Well, while I know Brian, I don't know Jeff so I can't talk nasty about
him. Should I bother to come to lunch then :-)

Roy Engehausen, AA4RE -- enge@almaden.ibm.com

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 14:58:54 EDT
From: crompton@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (D. Crompton)
Subject: NT is out
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Yes NT is out. I hadn't been installing the beta's for the most part
but got my final version last week. Installation was rather easy with 
the CD ROM. Sure beats swapping disks.

Other than that it seems to work OK. Lots of security. There are some
problems though!

1. I have TCP/IP installed and when I enter the accessories group terminal
set it for telnet (get the telnet prompt back) and then type a CONTROL J
and then an enter at the keyboard the system crashes - memory violations
and a very unstable system or complete lockup. It does bring up DR. Watson
before it crashes. Bug report submitted to Microsoft. 

Telnet does work - just don't do the above!! Sure doesn't say much for a
stable (fault tolerant) system that MS touts.

2. I tried installing a serial printer to com1 and had it working and
then when I restarted the system I lost com1 never to return! Working
with MS on this one and they have not been much help to date. Sure is
aggravating!!

Called about courses and have heard similiar horror stories about crashes.
Looks like MS is going to have to have another release. I sure would not
want to trust anything valuable on it right now.

Microsoft has an NT machine hanging on the internet for driver/doc updates
etc. - It is gowinnt.microsoft.com - alias for ftp.microsoft.com

Doug

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