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TCP-Group Digest            Sat, 24 Jul 93       Volume 93 : Issue  188

Today's Topics:
                           discussion admin
         How do I get NNTP working properly on PA0GRI v2.0j?
                     OS/2 Mailer & 9600 baud use
                      TCP Retry Timers (2 msgs)

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 15:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: larsonb@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (larson bradley)
Subject: discussion admin
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

Hello,

Since I don't know how to address the administrator of this group would
whoever admins this discussion please add me to the mailing list for 
this group.

Thanks in advance!

Brad.

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 10:24:37 +119304028 (CDT)
From: schellew@wu4.wl.aecl.ca (Wayne Schellekens)
Subject: How do I get NNTP working properly on PA0GRI v2.0j?
To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu

I am trying to get a gateway/bbs set up for the Pinawa area.  I am
trying to see which flavour of NOS will work best for me.  So far
PA0GRI v2.0j seems to have the features I want.

What do I want?  Mainly NNTP for the rec.radio.amateur groups.

I have set up NOS to get articles from our server and it manages to transfer
them into the spool directory quite nicely.  The only question I have is
how do I access the articles from the NOS BBS?  The documentation for
PA0GRI does not mention this.  Do I need to put some commands in a file?
The PA0GRI docs says it uses the following file structure:

 ~/spool/news
 ~/spool/news/active
 ~/spool/news/pointer
 ~/spool/news/info
 ~/spool/news/help
 ~/spool/news/history
 ~/spool/news/forward
 ~/spool/news/poll

The forward and history files are created automatically.  Does anyone
know what goes in the other files?  Any help is *greatly* appreciated.


Wayne

p.s. I am using the default for 'nntp directory' i.e., '/spool/mail' for
     spool and '/spool/news' for control

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Wayne Schellekens, VE4WTS          Internet: schellew@wu2.wl.aecl.ca
AECL Research                         AX.25: VE4WTS@VE4KV.#WPG.MB.CAN 
Whiteshell Laboratories        Twisted pair: (204)753-2311 x2317
PINAWA, MB  Canada  R0E 1L0             Fax: (204)753-2455

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Date: 23 Jul 1993 12:45:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Murphree <mike.murphree@stpete.honeywell.com>
Subject: OS/2 Mailer & 9600 baud use
To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu

Jack, kf5mg, writes:

>   Has anyone seen an OS/2 based NOS Mailer ( NNTP would also be nice )
>program with source? What about a non-NOS, stand alone, program that
>could be adapted to use the NOS file structure. PM EUI would be nice,
>but text based will work too. Thanks.

Sounds like a great idea, maybe when I get the C/Set 2 compiler, I will
investigate writing one. It is really inconvenient to succumb back to
DOS to write messages when running OS/2.

>   I've been running JNOS in a OS/2 v2.1, 735K Dos Box for the last 2
>weeks or so. So far, no major problems. So far, I've got the nos.bat
>file calling an OS/2, REXX Command file that makes sure that the log
>is less than 500,000 records. If it's over 500,000 records, it pkzips
>the nos.log file into another directory.

I would still like to know how to get the 735K DOS box. I've tried
changing the video restriction and setting dos_rmsize to 636K (not
possible to set it to 639K, s/w changes it to 636), but nothing
seems to work. I would be interested in the REXX files too...

Steve, N5OWK, writes:

>I've recently been experimenting with 2 meter FM 9600 (have a
>lot of experiance with a Tekk on 440) and am amazed at how
>poorly it performs.

 I would like to hear more about users' experience with 9600
 baud operation. Our local tcp/ip group is planning a move to
 all 9600 baud operation, and is investigating different modems,
 tncs, and radios available, and any information would be
 helpful. This list may not be the place for this topic, but
 would like to know if this information is available anywhere
 else.
 
>My theory is that 4800 Hz is the highest modulating frequency,
>so the modulation index at 3 kHz deviation would be .625.  Using
>a Bessel chart shows +/- 3 sidebands for (6 x 4800) 28.8 kHz
>Bandwidth.  I assume the FIR filter on transmit greatly
>attenuates the third sideband so we probably only need (4 x
>4800) or 19.2 kHz.

I have a good article here in printed form by James Miller, G3RUH,
that appeared in the Amsat Journal, it has lots of info about the
bandwidth required and the modulation used. Also one of our local
PacComm representatives indicated to me that the bandwidth could
be contained in < 13 kHz.

>The trouble is my ICOM (and most other rigs) has a 455 kHz filter
>marked with an 'E'.  PacComm says an 'E' is 15 kHz and a 'D' is
>20 kHz.

 I've heard that the 'D' model is preferred to reduce the phase
 distortion at the edges.

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Date: 23 Jul 93 08:16:26 CDT
From: Jack Snodgrass <kf5mg@vnet.IBM.COM>
Subject: TCP Retry Timers
To: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>

   What timers control TCP retries? How can I check the current status
of a socket and and it's associated retry timer? I've been having
problems with my station. It seems to wait forever when sending a
retry. If I skick the socket it starts everything going again. Then it
seems to stop and I need to do another skick of the socket. My TCP IRTT
value is 30000 and my TCP Timer is Linear. I'm runnning JNOS 1.07.
Thanks.

73's  de  Jack  -  kf5mg
Internet        -  kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org       - 44.28.0.14
Worknet         -  kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com         - work (817) 962-4409
AX25net         -  kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na - home (817) 488-4386

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 14:17:33 -0700
From: karn@qualcomm.com (Phil Karn)
Subject: TCP Retry Timers
To: kf5mg@vnet.IBM.COM

You should be able to use the "tcp status" command, or perhaps the "sock ##"
command to examine the state of a TCP control block, including the timer
state.

Phil

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