Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 04:30:06 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #187 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Fri, 23 Jul 93 Volume 93 : Issue 187 Today's Topics: cutdown NOS again latest bits (3 msgs) OS/2 NOS Mailer with Source wanted (2 msgs) Request brief "?NOS" FAQ TCP-Group Digest V93 #186 Undelivered mail (2 msgs) WNOS Autoexec.nos Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Jul 93 08:03:51 GMT From: Jon Jagger <J.R.Jagger@sheffield-hallam.ac.uk> Subject: cutdown NOS again To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Hi again, I have had a few encouraging replies re the above. In particular I have been pointed to the original ka9q net code, which I'm told is pretty cutdown already (compared to JNOS say). Is there *anything* at all that can be cut out of this? I'm thinking of a version that handles a) only a PC b) only ax25 attaches c) only one type of session for each protocol. d) trace e) thats about it. Any opinions/pointers appreciated. Thanks JJ :: Jon Jagger, Comp. Serv., Sheffield Hallam University, S1 1WB, UK :: Internet J.R.Jagger@shu.ac.uk AMPRnet 2e1bsd (TCP/IP mailbox soon) :: Tel 0742 533802/432889 (work/home) Fax 0743 533840 :: Roses are red, violets are blue, :: I'm schizophrenic, and so am I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 07:46:39 EDT From: n4clh@vnet.IBM.COM Subject: latest bits To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu I have seen reference to wg7j 1.10 bits? I cannot find them on UCSD. anybody have an idea where they might be? 73, => Bob - N4CLH @ WA4BRO.ATL.GA.USA.NA => amprnet - 44.36.0.120 (n4clh.ampr.org) Atlanta, GA. => internet - rwaustin@atlvm1.vnet.ibm.com ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 10:46:26 CDT From: Jack Snodgrass <kf5mg@vnet.IBM.COM> Subject: Latest bits To: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu> Bob, The 110x8 version of JNOS can be found on wg7j.ece.orst.edu, in the beta dir... This is going to be the 1.10 JNOS version, but right now it's in Beta Test. One REALLY nice feature is the Indexing of Message Areas. Going in and out of a message area is really quick. It uses an Index file instead of the actual message area. This saves disk space, I/O and response time. This has caused lots of bugs however, but they are gradually being worked out. Lots of different parts of NOS touch the message areas. Making sure that they all work with the new Index file has kept Johan pretty busy. He's been doing an great job. Check out the NOS-BBS-GROUP list for more info on problems and new features with the 110xX code. 73's de Jack - kf5mg - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 - kf5mg@dfwgate.ampr.org - 44.28.0.14 - kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com - work (817) 962-4409 AX25net - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na ------------------------------------------------------------------- | "I am Homer, of Borg...prepare to be assim -- ooo, donuts." | ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 11:29:58 MST From: w6swe@w6swe.tapr.org (Bob Nielsen) Subject: latest bits To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu n4clh writes >I have seen reference to wg7j 1.10 bits? I cannot find them on UCSD. >anybody have an idea where they might be? The 1.10 stuff is beta and is on wg7j.ece.orst.edu plus a few other places where people have copied them. I expect that Johan will put the released version on ucsd.edu when it is ready, which should be pretty soon. Bob ------------------ Bob Nielsen, W6SWE Internet: w6swe@tapr.org Tucson Amateur Packet Radio AX.25: w6swe@kc7cg.az.usa.na Tucson, AZ Amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 06:36:35 CDT From: Jack Snodgrass <kf5mg@vnet.IBM.COM> Subject: OS/2 NOS Mailer with Source wanted To: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu> Has anyone seen an OS/2 based NOS Mailer ( NNTP would also be nice ) program with source? What about a non-NOS, stand alone, program that could be adapted to use the NOS file structure. PM EUI would be nice, but text based will work too. Thanks. FYI: I've been running JNOS in a OS/2 v2.1, 735K Dos Box for the last 2 weeks or so. So far, no major problems. So far, I've got the nos.bat file calling an OS/2, REXX Command file that makes sure that the log is less than 500,000 records. If it's over 500,000 records, it pkzips the nos.log file into another directory. I've also got a couple of OS/2 Rexx command files that look for data in the spool\mail file. If a note gets sent to the printer area,( printer.txt ) the smtp headers are striped and it is sent to the printer. I'm also going to set up a callbook and mods server. No code will need to be added to NOS. Just a couple of Rexx files to wait for stuff to show up, process them, and then erase them. 73's de Jack - kf5mg - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 - kf5mg@dfwgate.ampr.org - 44.28.0.14 - kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com - work (817) 962-4409 AX25net - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na ------------------------------------------------------------------- | "I am Homer, of Borg...prepare to be assim -- ooo, donuts." | ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 11:09:05 -0400 From: goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com (k1io, FN42jk) Subject: OS/2 NOS Mailer with Source wanted To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu You can probably use PMAIL, the mailer from PMNOS. Why not just use PMNOS? It's native OS/2 so if you need to hit a serial port, you don't hit the DOSbox interrupt problem. fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 21:07:32 CDT From: Daniel Ortmann <ortmann@plains.NoDak.edu> Subject: Request brief "?NOS" FAQ To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu (tcp group) Would some kind soul e-mail a brief overview of the NOS family to the tcp group? It need only include the following information: - Name - platforms it runs on - platform specific caveats - networking services available - strengths - weaknesses - who is developing it (or where) Thanks.... -- Daniel "un?X" Ortmann (talmid) NDSU Electrical Engineering ortmann@plains.nodak.edu shalom Fargo, North Dakota ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 10:29:11 +119304028 (CDT) From: schellew@wu4.wl.aecl.ca (Wayne Schellekens) Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #186 To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu > Is there a packet driver for DE100 Ethernet card by Digital(R)? I am running a DE100 in my machine. The DEPCA.COM driver works as long as you have the card in 64K mode. 32K mode doesn't work for me for some reason. Another fellow said it worked for him. Guess I have a strange machine. I got a copy of DLLPKT (from ucsd.edu I think) which lets you run NOS on top of Pathworks. It's much nicer than rebooting every time I want to FTP something. Good luck! -- Wayne Schellekens, VE4WTS Internet: schellew@wu2.wl.aecl.ca AECL Research AX.25: VE4WTS@VE4KV.#WPG.MB.CAN Whiteshell Laboratories Twisted pair: (204)753-2311 x2317 PINAWA, MB Canada R0E 1L0 Fax: (204)753-2455 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:15:24 MET From: MAILER@CSPGUK11.BITNET (Network Mailer) Subject: Undelivered mail To: MAILER%CSPGUK11.BITNET@Sdsc.Edu ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its intended recipients for the following reason(s): No such local user: RSCS --------------------RETURNED MAIL FILE-------------------- Received: by CSPGUK11 (Mailer R2.07) id 0957; Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:15:24 MET Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:02:34 MET From: Network Mailer <MAILER@CSPGUK11> Subject: Undelivered mail To: RSCS@CSPGUK11 Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its intended recipients for the following reason(s): FROM: or SENDER: inconsistent with spool file origin. --------------------RETURNED MAIL FILE-------------------- Received: by CSPGUK11 (Mailer R2.07) id 0222; Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:02:35 MET Received: from ucsd.edu by Sdsc.Edu (sds.sdsc.edu STMG) via INTERNET; Sun, 18 Jul 93 08:21:17 GMT Received: by ucsd.edu; id AB03154 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Sat, 17 Jul 93 23:24:29 -0700 Errors-To: tcp-group-relay@ucsd.edu Sender: tcp-group-relay%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet Precedence: List Received: from plains.NoDak.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA03148 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Sat, 17 Jul 93 23:24:27 -0700 for /usr/mail/listhandler tcp-group Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Sun, 18 Jul 1993 01:24:25 -0500 From: ortmann%plains.NoDak.edu%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet (Daniel Ortmann) Message-Id: <199307180624.AA00833@plains.NoDak.edu> Subject: NOS on MS-Windows? To: tcp-group%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet (tcp group) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 1:24:24 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] 1) Has anyone compiled any of the NOS family on MS-Windows? 2) Has anyone done it using MS Visual C++?? 3) If it has not been done, then what are your thoughts on the difficulty? -- Daniel "un?X" Ortmann (talmid) NDSU Electrical Engineering ortmann@plains.nodak.edu shalom Fargo, North Dakota ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:15:34 MET From: MAILER@CSPGUK11.BITNET (Network Mailer) Subject: Undelivered mail To: MAILER%CSPGUK11.BITNET@Sdsc.Edu ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its intended recipients for the following reason(s): No such local user: RSCS --------------------RETURNED MAIL FILE-------------------- Received: by CSPGUK11 (Mailer R2.07) id 0986; Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:15:34 MET Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:03:00 MET From: Network Mailer <MAILER@CSPGUK11> Subject: Undelivered mail To: RSCS@CSPGUK11 Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its intended recipients for the following reason(s): FROM: or SENDER: inconsistent with spool file origin. --------------------RETURNED MAIL FILE-------------------- Received: by CSPGUK11 (Mailer R2.07) id 0269; Wed, 21 Jul 93 17:03:00 MET Received: from ucsd.edu by Sdsc.Edu (sds.sdsc.edu STMG) via INTERNET; Sat, 17 Jul 93 07:40:24 GMT Received: by ucsd.edu; id AA13632 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 16 Jul 93 22:44:45 -0700 Errors-To: tcp-group-relay@ucsd.edu Sender: tcp-group-relay%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet Precedence: List Received: from SABEA-OC.AF.MIL by ucsd.edu; id AA13618 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Fri, 16 Jul 93 22:44:33 -0700 for /usr/mail/listhandler tcp-group Received: by sabea-oc.af.mil (5.59/25-eef) id AA26398; Sat, 17 Jul 93 00:41:09 CDT From: ssampson%sabea-oc.af.mil%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet (Mr. Sampson) Message-Id: <9307170541.AA26398@sabea-oc.af.mil> Subject: 9600 Experiances To: TCP-Group%UCSD.EDU@Sdsc.BITnet Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 00:41:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL13] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1149 Swinging to the hardware side for a moment... I've recently been experimenting with 2 meter FM 9600 (have a lot of experiance with a Tekk on 440) and am amazed at how poorly it performs. I modified an ICOM 228A both to keep the receiver on all the time (it shuts it off during transmit as designed) and the normal VCO and Discriminator taps. After discussing it, I'm pretty much convinced that the final IF filter is the culprit. I'm using a PacComm TNC which has a 5 kHz cut-off on its input filter. My theory is that 4800 Hz is the highest modulating frequency, so the modulation index at 3 kHz deviation would be .625. Using a Bessel chart shows +/- 3 sidebands for (6 x 4800) 28.8 kHz Bandwidth. I assume the FIR filter on transmit greatly attenuates the third sideband so we probably only need (4 x 4800) or 19.2 kHz. The trouble is my ICOM (and most other rigs) has a 455 kHz filter marked with an 'E'. PacComm says an 'E' is 15 kHz and a 'D' is 20 kHz. I'm not sure what the 10.7 MHz IF has in it. What's the general consensus on this? Do those running 9600 sucessfully change these out, or is my math all wrong? --- Steve N5OWK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 13:30:15 PDT From: Mike_Beezley.houstoncssc@xerox.com Subject: WNOS Autoexec.nos To: TCP-GROUP@ucsd.edu, packet-radio@ucsd.edu I am trying to get WNOS4a8 going on a NEC Powermate with 2M of memory. I used to run an older version of NET and decided I would try out the newer stuff. I tried what a lot of people do and that is using my old Autoexec.net file in place of the Autoexec.nos file. After reading the documentation I went back and tried the Autoexec.nos file that came with the WNOS4a8 file that is on ucsd.edu. It is configured for Europe and tried to use the documentation to comment out what is not appropriate for my configuration and select what is. I ran NET on a KISS PK88 TNC and it worked fine. Does someone out there have some inkling of why I get a scrolling screen full of STACKViolations when running with the Autoexec.nos file and merely a missing Autoexec.nos error message when I run without? It seems to me it is something I have selected in the .NOS file and I suppose without posting what my file contains it will be fairly difficult for you to know what exactly it is ;-) I'm just after general guidance. What other people have found as causing this problem. I'm a newbie at this so this should be a nice break from some of the indepth conversations I've seen going on here. As a side question, I sup[pose that once I do get this working I need to become a part of the system to be able to use NNTP? Thanks folks __mike MBeez.HoustonCSSC@Xerox.COM ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V93 #187 ****************************** ******************************