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TCP-Group Digest            Fri, 28 May 93       Volume 93 : Issue  137

Today's Topics:
                           FTP NLIST format
                 IP address change on Detroit hamgate
                            Kiss question
                             Mac IP bits

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Date: Thu, 27 May 93 17:22:49 EST
From: lshannon@wpdsmtp.daytonoh.ncr.com
Subject: FTP NLIST format
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu

          Does anyone have a hack to make the FTP NLIST format
          compatible with UNIX SVR4?  Many of the new windows IP
          clients try to interpret the format to provide
          point-and-click directory switching and file selection.  The
          WNOS formatted display is different than any of the more
          widely known formats supported by these packages (e.g.
          QVTNET, SuperTCP, Pathway Access,...).

          Thanks,
          Lew, K0RR

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Date: Thu, 27 May 93 19:07:13 EDT
From: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu (Ron Atkinson - N8FOW)
Subject: IP address change on Detroit hamgate
To: gateways@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu

Since Michigan is now subnetted and everyone is changing IP addresses  the
Detroit hamgate is also changing. Here's the info on it.

hostname                 old address     new address
wsu.n8fow.ampr.org       44.102.0.196    44.102.48.2
wsu1.n8fow.ampr.org      44.102.0.197    44.102.48.1

I'll also be uploading to the hamgate a new domain.txt file (I'll put
a hosts.net file too) in the  /pub/hosts  directory  for the state of
Michigan. It also lists the subnets and what county they corresponds to.
     UCSD.EDU should be updated too,  I'll check to see if it's been
done though.

Ron  N8FOW         n8fow@n8fow.ampr.org   (now  44.102.40.16)

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 10:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: S. R. Sampson <ssampson@sabea-oc.af.mil>
Subject: Kiss question
To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu

J.R. (N7MFF) writes:
> If I have the TNC in KISS mode how much processing does the TNC do and what
> does the KISS packet look like coming from the TNC?

It depends on the software.  If it is NOS, then NOS does all the AX.25 level
processing, and you see the same thing that the normal TNC mode produces.
NOS doesn't do AX.25 any different than the TNC, but offers higher level
TCP/IP type stuff.

> Does the TNC do all of the 0 bit removal and flag byte removal on the HDLC
> packet?

All the low level stuff is still taken care of by the HDLC chip in the TNC.

> I believe it is possible but is it legal to send raw SLIP or possibly raw IP
> datagrams over the radio?

Yes, it's called an unspecified digital code.  You can do anything you could
do with AX.25 except transport third-party data.  But then again Pactor is an
unspecified digital code and the FCC hasn't complained about that, so the rule
is not enforced.

> If you can transmit raw IP datagrams over the radio then wouldn't the circuit
> (radio) almost look like a slow ethernet?

Well, ethernet is like AX.25.  It has it's own wrapper around the IP, so you
are one level lower.  It's a radio SLIP link.
---
Steve, N5OWK

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Date: Thu, 27 May 93 12:33:33 -0400
From: "Terry Stader KA8SCP" <p00489@psilink.com>
Subject: Mac IP bits
To: "Tom King" <tking@oes.ca.gov>

Paul.... if you are refering to the TCP/IP packages for the Macintosh 
for packet radio, they can be found at ucsd.edu in 
/pub/hamradio/packet/tcip/pa2aga directory. The latest release is 
NET/Mac 2.3.21. The applicable mailer, Ivo's Mailer the replacement for 
BM, is now up to IM/Mac 1.0b27k.

You might also want to gewt the "environment" package that is available 
there too. It will give you all of the neccessary folders and paths for 
setting up the entire system... you cannot run JUST NET/Mac and IM/Mac. 
There are other requirements too.

>DATE:   Wed, 26 May 93 17:23:50 PDT
>FROM:   Tom King <tking@oes.ca.gov>
>
>Can anybody tell me who is maintaining the MAC IP software now? 
>
>Also where might I find them?
>
>Thanks,
>Tom King
>KA6SOX
>
>Packet:   KA6SOX@K6TZ.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NA
>Internet: tking@oes.ca.gov
>


Terry Stader - KA8SCP               ARRL EMAS Section Emergecny Coordinator
Internet: tstader@aol.com           America Online Ham Radio Club Host
          p00489@psilink.com (all files/binaries)
Packet: KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NA

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