Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 04:30:08 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #97 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Tue, 13 Apr 93 Volume 93 : Issue 97 Today's Topics: ?? tcp-group digest subscription ?? Gnu tar with packet driver support? (2 msgs) High spedd mailing lst??? List server won't unsubscribe me Number '#' sign in addresses. Porting to other systems Thoughts on 108e Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 08:54 +1300 From: HOSPICE@otago.ac.nz Subject: ?? tcp-group digest subscription ?? To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Hi, I would like to find out how to get a subscription to the tcp-group digest, and it has been suggested that I try this address. Could somebody send me the details please?? Thanks ..... 73 de Brendon ZL4RAE @ ZL4AA.#90.DUD.NZ.OC hospice@otago.ac.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 16:06:38 -0800 (PDT) From: jmorriso@rflab.ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) Subject: Gnu tar with packet driver support? To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Has anyone seen a Gnu tar which includes support for packet drivers (under DOS)? I've got Gnu tar under linux and SunOS which can do tar cf remotehost:/dev/mt0 .... or whatever. It makes backups easier, if the tape drive is located on another machine. Gnu tar can use rsh, and rmt on the remote host. I *think* Ive seen a packet driver rsh on DOS, but Im not sure if it works. thanks.. __________________________________________________________________________ John Paul Morrison | jmorriso@rflab.ee.ubc.ca VE7JPM | .sigfile without a cause ubc-cs!rflab.ee.ubc.ca!jmorriso | ________________________________________|_________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 22:43:42 EDT From: "Russell Nelson" <nelson@crynwr.com> Subject: Gnu tar with packet driver support? To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu In article <m0niXaJ-0000GfC@rflab.ee.ubc.ca> you write: > Has anyone seen a Gnu tar which includes support for packet drivers (under > DOS)? it's on gwd2i.cnuce.cnr.it (131.114.1.31), available by anonymous ftp -- -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say? Crynwr Software Crynwr Software sells packet driver support. 11 Grant St. 315-268-1925 Voice | LPF member - ask me about Potsdam, NY 13676 315-268-9201 FAX | the harm software patents do. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 05:23:10 UTC From: g6phf@wg7j.ECE.ORST.EDU Subject: High spedd mailing lst??? To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu I should have made a note of this I know! Does anybody have the address/details of a/the high speed packet list, I am sure I remember seeing messages about one a while ago. Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 17:25:35 PDT From: psm%helios.nosc.mil@nosc.mil (Scot McIntosh) Subject: List server won't unsubscribe me To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Sorry to bug everyone with this post, but listserv@ucsd.edu doesn't think I'm subscribed to anything, and I still keep getting this group. Can some Samaritan there please unhook me? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 08:33:29 +0300 (EED) From: mea@Mea.cc.utu.fi ("Matti E. Aarnio [OH1MQK]") Subject: Number '#' sign in addresses. To: kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com (Jack Snodgrass) > I've been told that the # sign is a bad character for Internet > Addresses. I've got my JNOS Gateway set up so that if someone specifies > me as an SMTP Gateway and they send a note to > user@bbs.#area.state.country.cont or user%bbs.#area.state.country.cont > (AX.25 BBS addressing ) it will go to a local AX.25 bbs for routing to > the AX.25 world. > > My question is... if the '#' sign is invalid in an internet address, > is there an alternate character that could be used and put into the > rewrite file so an IP user could address an item to an AX.25 user? > Thanks. Definitely it is bad for generic RFC-822 system. However you can use it with following kind of arrangement: "kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na"@your.gateway This makes the left side (aka "local part") of outer "@" to be a quoted string, in which you can use just about anything you wish.. That "local part" is to be analyzed only by "your.gateway", no other system is allowed to munch its contents. > 73's de Jack - kf5mg > AMPRnet - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - 44.28.0.14 > AX25net - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na - work (817) 962-4409 > Internet - kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com - home (817) 488-4386 /Matti Aarnio <mea@utu.fi> OH1MQK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 10:54:35 +0100 From: Alan Cox <iiitac@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk> Subject: Porting to other systems To: nos-bbs@hydra.carleton.ca, tcp-group@ucsd.edu I've already started breaking NOS up under Linux, and inserting segments of 'real' applications by routing packets through to the real host tcp/ip layer. Its effectively much of what Wampes also tries to do. The good news for people wanting to do it is that it works well, although portability of the first version I tried (PA0GRI v17j) was very bad. I got hold of the current AmigaNOS and had it running on Linux well enough to run my node 24hrs a day in about 2 days of work. If anyone wants bits from it like the ksubr.c to do the threads on a 386 under Linux just ask. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 01:24:31 -0700 From: karn@qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) Subject: Thoughts on 108e To: crompton@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL, nos-bbs@hydra.carleton.CA I've got another idea. Now that I've made NOS's API very similar to that of Berkeley UNIX, how about porting the bigger applications (particularly the mailbox) from NOS to 386BSD? This would give the mailbox a much better base on which to grow (a real file system, lots of virtual memory, a real time-slicing operating system with inter-task protection, among many other things), while NOS could settle down and do what it does best -- acting as a dedicated packet radio gateway and router. Plain vanilla AX25 users could be handled with a simple NOS server that would automatically open a TCP connection to the mailbox on the 386BSD machine. And maybe, just maybe, people would discover all of the nifty network applications that already exist under 386BSD, like sendmail and the domain name server, and not reinvent them... Phil ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V93 #97 ****************************** ******************************