Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 04:30:02 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #88 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Mon, 5 Apr 93 Volume 93 : Issue 88 Today's Topics: Bit-Regenerator CAPRA: NOSintro Book CAPRA: TCP/IP Seminar Send Replies or notes for publication to: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>. Subscription requests to <TCP-Group-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>. Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 04 Apr 93 17:10:13 CDT From: Jack Snodgrass <kf5mg@vnet.IBM.COM> Subject: Bit-Regenerator To: <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu> I'd like to set up a TNC with a Bit-Regenerator. Someone suggested that I look at using a TAPR DCD board and connect up the TX<->DX lines. Anyone know if that will work. Is there a standard circuit someplace? I'll probably start with a TNC-2 clone at 1200b. We still don't have any > 1200b activity in the area yet. If we do use G3RUH modems in a TNC-2, how do you set that up as a bit regenerator? Last question... what about the Firmware in the TNC? What are my options. The setup will be running Full-Duplex. Any chance we can use a TheNet X1G EPROM? I'd like to be able to have a PC connected to the TNC, but not be involved in the Bit-Regeneration process. But I'd like to be able to have the PC use the TNC. That might be stretching it a bit. Any info or ideas would be appreciated. 73's de Jack - kf5mg AMPRnet - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - 44.28.0.14 AX25net - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.na - work (817) 962-4409 Internet - kf5mg@vnet.ibm.com - home (817) 488-4386 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 93 17:53:31 -0700 From: JCHESNER@holonet.net Subject: CAPRA: NOSintro Book To: TCP-GROUP@ucsd.edu CAPRA - the Chicago Area Packet Radio Association has arranged to obtain a supply of Ian Wade, G3NRW's new TCP/IP primer - "NOSintro." Reviews of this book have been quite good. This 356 page book is a hands-on tutorial with documentation regarding TCP/IP and NOS software version of this international standard as implemented for use with amateur packet radio operations. An earlier posting listed all of the 35 chapters of the book which outline the basics and more advanced topics of TCP/IP; there are 6 Appendices with additional reference materials and information. The book has over 80 detailed diagrams with "countless examples of commands and screen displays". The books will be shipped via U.S. Postal Service's 2nd Day Priority Mail service upon receipt here in suburban Chicago. Ian Wade, the author, has given us a discount for our quantity purchase. The cost to you will be slightly under the total cost which you would have were ordering directly from the publisher in the U.K. This is NOT a money making undertaking on the part of our group. Many of us are active on TCP/IP and feel that this is a way to increase the awareness of and technical expertise of others who may be interested in or who are currently using the protocol in amateur radio circles. Send your complete mailing address, a telephone number at which you can be reached should there be a problem, and a check/money order made out to CAPRA in the amount of $22.50. Canadian hams should send $24.00 in the form of a Canada POST International Money Order payable in U.S. dollars. CAPRA - Chicago Area Packet Radio Association Post Office Box 8251 Rolling Meadows, Illinois 60008 73 de Jim, N9GBH CAPRA - Vice President jchesner@holonet.net 70040.125@compuserve.com (708) 253-0046 in Mt. Prospect, Illinois (NW Suburban Chicago) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 93 17:53:33 -0700 From: JCHESNER@holonet.net Subject: CAPRA: TCP/IP Seminar To: TCP-GROUP@ucsd.edu CAPRA - (Chicago Area Packet Radio Association) Presents: TCP/IP - Seminar/Workshop The interest in TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol) in the radio amateur community has been increasing rapidly in the past year or two. Unlike regular AX.25 packet, TCP/IP is somewhat complex to set up and operate. More than with any new mode, there seem to be many people frustrated in their attempts to get started. As an aid to those interested in TCP/IP, CAPRA will conduct a hands-on, seminar and workshop. TCP/IP is used extensively in telecommunications networking in government, educational, and corporate organizations. It includes several capabilities including unattended electronic mail exchange, retrieval/forwarding of files of information, software, and other materials to/from several hundred thousand computer systems throughout the world, incorporating hundreds of gigabytes (billions!) - pieces of information of all kinds, and, connectivity which allows authorized users to "operate" computer systems at distant points. As implemented in the amateur community today, there are gateways to/from the amateur packet networks to the Internet (world-wide computer system networks), as well as to far distant amateur packet radio networks throughout North America, Europe, Australia and other points. Some, but not all of the capabilities of the amateur networks can be used with the AX.25 protocol; however, TCP/IP is "richer" and has greater capabilities to allow one to "reach out" to other amateurs and varied resources through the world as indicated above. The seminar/workshop will: - introduce you to the "basics" of TCP/IP - introduce the amateur radio packet software package -- NOS - explain the hardware requirements for using TCP/IP - provide demonstrations via "hands-on" stations for your use at the workshop - allow you to "prepare" a personalized copy of NOS for installation at your own station QTH - discuss the backbone network in Metropolitan Chicago including links into the Internet - answer questions, questions, questions... When: Saturday, May 15, 1993 8:00 AM - Doors Open 8:30 AM - First Session 12 Noon - Presentation Conclusion 12 Noon - 1:00 PM - Lunch 1:00 PM until ??? - Discussion, Hands On, Prepare NOS Disks, Questions Where: Harper Community College in Palatine, Illinois (NW Suburban Chicago)(Algonquin and Roselle Roads) Building H. Free Parking in Lot C. Other: - A brief written tutorial on TCP/IP is being prepared; if you are not familiar with the topic, you are urged to obtain a copy for review prior to the seminar/workshop. Please send $2.00 to the CAPRA Post Office Box prior to May 1, 1993. - If you plan on preparing a personalize copy of NOS for your station, bring the appropriate MS-DOS or MAC diskettes (minimum 3, just in case) Contact: Contact: Jim Chesner, N9GBH (708) 253-0046 n9gbh@kb9dip.il or Bob Van Valzah, KE9YQ (708) 690-2282 bob@ke9yq.ampr.org if you have questions. CAPRA Post Office Box 8251 Rolling Meadows, Illinois 60008-8251 NOTE: R.S.V.P. Those wishing "hands on" assistance with equipment must reply; first come - first served. ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V93 #88 ****************************** ******************************