Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 04:30:15 PST
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TCP-Group Digest Fri, 19 Mar 93 Volume 93 : Issue 75
Today's Topics:
Cliff Stoll
Elvis lives
Failed mail (2 msgs)
Finaly: vacation time pa0gri
NOS and DAMA
Pardon me..
Please subscribe me.
routers and unrecognized options
To Kurt, WB5BBW... (2 msgs)
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:17:41 -0800
From: brian (Brian Kantor)
Subject: Cliff Stoll
To: tcp-group
Path: network.ucsd.edu!ogicse!emory!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!stoll
From: stoll@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cliff Stoll)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Dayton Hamvention Information
Message-ID: <1oahgl$d5r@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 93 19:11:17 GMT
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I'm getting pumped up to speak at Dayton ... it'll be one fun time.
Buy your dinner tix in advance -- there may be few at the door,
according to the Hamvention people.
Warning:
I'll be pulling out almost all stops for my saturday night spoutathon.
Don't even think about missing it.
-Cliff Stoll K7TA
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 09:43:24 -0800
From: brian (Brian Kantor)
Subject: Elvis lives
To: tcp-group
------- Forwarded Message
SUN MICROSYSTEMS SAYS IT HAS SIGNED A JOINT DEVELOPMENT PACT
with ELVIS+, a private Russian corporation, to develop
handheld computers that can communicate by satellite.
ELVIS+, a Russian acronym that stands for Electronic
Computer and Information Systems, is staffed by a team of
scientists who built top-secret Soviet spy satellites. Sun
has agreed to take a 10 % equity position in the company.
A published report recently stated that ELVIS+ had
developed a microwave antenna tiny enough to fit on a single
computer chip. Such a device would go a long way toward
cutting the size and weight of portable communicators.
------- End of Forwarded Message
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 80 18:28:36 UTC
From: MAILER-DAEMON@wb9mjn.ampr.org (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Failed mail
To: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
===== transcript follows =====
While talking to ke9yq.imsa.edu:
>>> DATA
<<< 550 <kurt@cs.tamu.edu> address unknown
<<< 503 Need RCPT (recipient)
===== Unsent message follows ====
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 80 18:16:42 UTC
Message-Id: <6125@wb9mjn.ampr.org>
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
To: kurt%cs.tamu.edu@ke9yq.imsa.edu
Subject: Transport/Access...
Hi, Well, my paper really doesn t deal with regenerators at all. Its
kinda a proposal on how to build a transport network, that would support
a cellular access network, of say, regenerators. We use full duplex
for one transport net here, but its not something i generally recommend.
Regenerators are best used, as u are proposing to support wide area user
access networks, where the users are out of range of each other, allot
of the time.
The text of my paper is in my public subdirectory, under the file name
CELLNET.TXT. Also download CELLNET.UPT, which is a description of the
first two prototype radios we have running here. I m redoing the reciever
side of things, for a third site, that may or may not happen, and have had
good success.
Even with regenerators, somekinda enhanced access technigue, over CSMA
might someday be worthwhile. This kinda thing is common on commercial
2 way data regenerators/repeaters. Even simple stuff can really help
out. Like saveing the repeater hang time , as a protected time for acks
from mobile stations. But it can get real bizarre too. There s a thing
called D-QRAP that s been propossed by a CS prof at IIT up here. We ve
not been able to figure out how to do it on radio yet, however.
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.41.131]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@wb9uus.bradley.edu
----- End of forwarded message -----
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.41.131]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@wb9uus.bradley.edu
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 80 18:28:36 UTC
From: MAILER-DAEMON@wb9mjn.ampr.org (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Failed mail
To: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
===== transcript follows =====
While talking to ke9yq.imsa.edu:
>>> DATA
<<< 550 <kurt@cs.tamu.edu> address unknown
<<< 503 Need RCPT (recipient)
===== Unsent message follows ====
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 80 18:16:42 UTC
Message-Id: <6125@wb9mjn.ampr.org>
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
To: kurt%cs.tamu.edu@ke9yq.imsa.edu
Subject: Transport/Access...
Hi, Well, my paper really doesn t deal with regenerators at all. Its
kinda a proposal on how to build a transport network, that would support
a cellular access network, of say, regenerators. We use full duplex
for one transport net here, but its not something i generally recommend.
Regenerators are best used, as u are proposing to support wide area user
access networks, where the users are out of range of each other, allot
of the time.
The text of my paper is in my public subdirectory, under the file name
CELLNET.TXT. Also download CELLNET.UPT, which is a description of the
first two prototype radios we have running here. I m redoing the reciever
side of things, for a third site, that may or may not happen, and have had
good success.
Even with regenerators, somekinda enhanced access technigue, over CSMA
might someday be worthwhile. This kinda thing is common on commercial
2 way data regenerators/repeaters. Even simple stuff can really help
out. Like saveing the repeater hang time , as a protected time for acks
from mobile stations. But it can get real bizarre too. There s a thing
called D-QRAP that s been propossed by a CS prof at IIT up here. We ve
not been able to figure out how to do it on radio yet, however.
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.41.131]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@wb9uus.bradley.edu
----- End of forwarded message -----
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.41.131]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@wb9uus.bradley.edu
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 12:33:35 MET
From: gvdg@tophat.cdh.cdc.com
Subject: Finaly: vacation time pa0gri
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
Hello All,
My summer vacation time for 1992 has finaly arived.
On mar 30 Ria and I will be landing in Miami fl. There is a camper ready
for us wich we have to drive to L.A. (ca.) We have 3 and a halve weeks.
The main time we will spend in California visiting Yosemite and San Fransisco.
On 24 april we depart from L.A. International airport back to holland.
I don't have fixed days of being somewhere yet (and don't plan to have any)
((except the first and last day of the trip.) hi hi)
I will take my 2 meter handheld and a magmount with me so that we are "stand by"
My main standby freq will be 145.500 simplex (european stile) but if repeaters
are near i will make a hop to them. I take the route new orleans - houston -
san antonio - el paso - las vegas -yosemite - S.F. - San jose - monterey - L.A.
(I have to go to San jose to make it a business trip hi hi. fool the tax office)
Hope to meet some of your guyes somehow.
Regards, Gerard.
--
Internet: gvdg@cdc.com | Gerard J van der Grinten
UUCP: gvdgpc!gvdg | Control Data Bv.
Telephone: 0(+31)-15-153122 | Olaf Palmestraat 20
| 2616 LS DELFT Netherlands
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:13:31 CET
From: Francis Absolonne <FABSOLON%ESOC.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>
Subject: NOS and DAMA
To: "TCP-Group@UCSD.EDU" <TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu>
Does it exist a way to have DAMA implemented into NOS. Here in Europe,
several NetRom/TheNet nodes have DAMA implemented and the users are
supposed to follow the rules of DAMA to be "allowed" to use the node.
Thanks and best 73's.
Francis Absolonne, ON5RF.
End of Message
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Date: Sun, 03 Feb 80 16:55:00 UTC
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
Subject: Pardon me..
To: tcpgroup@ucsd.edu
Hi, Pardon my sending of a message to Kurt, WB5BBW, over then group here.
But, his return address doesn t work from our local gateway, or UCSD, either.
Kurt, in my first message, the words "Full Duplex" in the 3 sentance of
the first paragraph, should read "Regenerator" .
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.41.131]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@wb9uus.bradley.edu
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 22:14:51 +0900
From: Mitsutaka Ito <ito@nttslb.ntt.jp>
Subject: Please subscribe me.
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
Dear Sir,
Please subscribe me.
Thank you in advance.
-- Mitsutaka Ito E-mail: ito@nttslb.ntt.jp
-- NTT Software Laboratories Tel/Fax: +81-3-3740-5715/+81-3-5479-9170
-- 1-9-1 Kohnan Minato-ku Tokyo 108 Japan
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 13:17:52 -0500
From: jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org (Jerome Freedman)
Subject: routers and unrecognized options
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
What are routers required to do when they encounter unrecognized
options?
What do the *really* do (do some dump the packet?)
Jerry Freedman,Jr
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Date: Sun, 03 Feb 80 16:54:44 UTC
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
Subject: To Kurt, WB5BBW...
To: tcpgroup@ucsd.edu
----- Forwarded message -----
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Date: Sun, 03 Feb 80 16:54:44 UTC
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
Subject: To Kurt, WB5BBW...
To: tcpgroup@ucsd.edu
----- Forwarded message -----
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:30:17 WET
From: chermesh@bgumail.bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh)
Subject: Unsubscribing
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
I've done anything I could think of to unsubscribe from this list. All my
efforts failed. Can anyone do anything about it?
PLEASE, UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THE TCP-GROUP!!!
--
Ran Chermesh E - M A I L
Behavioral Sciences Dept. ===========
Ben-Gurion University Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL
Beer-Sheva 84105 CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL
Israel Bitnet : CHERMESH@BGUVM.BITNET
Phone: 972-57-472-057 Fax: 972-57-232-766
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