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Ham-Space Digest Tue, 28 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 125
Today's Topics:
P3D Frequencies Preliminary
Post your Sat-Track software pick here (2 msgs)
Satel Tracking Software (2 msgs)
SatTrack 1.7 / Xsat / Xephem / SFS
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 09:52:43 -0700
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: P3D Frequencies Preliminary
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-361.01
PHASE-3D FREQUENCIES
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 361.01 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD DECEMBER 27, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-361.01
PHASE-3D FREQUENCIES PRELIMINARY
This bulletin is to correct an error appearing in ANS Bulletin ANS-
359.01 PHASE-3D FREQUENCIES.
While that bulletin's subtitle indicated that these frequencies are
"solidified" for Phase-3D, actually, they are preliminary and
comments on specific selections are welcome and will be considered.
Please post any comments via AMSAT.ORG to ON6UG, with a copy to
W3XO, by January 31, 1994
/EX
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 01:02:51 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!news!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Post your Sat-Track software pick here
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
Re: Satelite tracking software for PCs and Macs but no compromises.
I'm sure this has been asked before I read this group, but I am still needing
the information. There was interesting discussion of the satelite tracking
software for X-windows like machines or unix boxes with VT100's (ugh!!)
but what about the rest of us. I have no intention of ever using a unix
box for satelite tracking, but I might find a PC (or dare I get greedy and
hope for a Mac with a large color display) available. I've seen some line
based output for PCs with EGA, and one less than satisfactory program for
the PC with VGA, but I'd like a really good tracking program - one that
has plenty of features, plenty of support, can be customized, and provides
control for tracking antennas and predictive displays. I want it all, and
I want to pay share-ware prices for it. Well I want it all anyway.
I'm willing to pay my-share prices.
What is the short list of software to consider for Macs and PCs with
VGA and possibly (bleh..) MS Windows?
Please post replies as I'm confident others will want to see, and I'll
just have to ask you permission to post your replies to me. Let's just
have the discussion on the usenet, OK?
Roger Keating - KD6EFQ
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Roger Keating, Cognitive Engineer PS&E keating@nosc.navy.mil | KD6EFQ
Naval Command, Control and Ocean Surveillance Center RDTE DIV | VHF DX is
NRaD Advanced Afloat System HCI - Code 44209 | Fun!
53245 Patterson Rd, San Diego CA 92152-7150 USA | Try it.
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 05:05:09 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!fmitch@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Post your Sat-Track software pick here
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
Roger Keating (keating@manta.nosc.mil) wrote:
: Re: Satelite tracking software for PCs and Macs but no compromises.
<much deleted>
: What is the short list of software to consider for Macs and PCs with
: VGA and possibly (bleh..) MS Windows?
: Please post replies as I'm confident others will want to see, and I'll
: just have to ask you permission to post your replies to me. Let's just
: have the discussion on the usenet, OK?
: Roger Keating - KD6EFQ
: _ . _ _ . . _ . . . . . . . _ . _ _ . _ . . . _ . _
: Roger Keating, Cognitive Engineer PS&E keating@nosc.navy.mil | KD6EFQ
: Naval Command, Control and Ocean Surveillance Center RDTE DIV | VHF DX is
: NRaD Advanced Afloat System HCI - Code 44209 | Fun!
: 53245 Patterson Rd, San Diego CA 92152-7150 USA | Try it.
the short list includes:
instatrack @~$50 from amsat-na, worth every penny, and will
interface with the kansas city tracker board for az/el
rotor control... has room for 200 satellites, very easy
to use... for price, is as impressive as any commercial
software i have ever bought...
realtrak - @~$65 from author or from r. myers communications...
very good but skewed toward moon bounce operators... author
very accessable (was at dayton) and very good upgrade policy..
also will control rotors...
quiktrak - written by software guru who lurks the net here,
n4hy... very good but now getting a little dated... what
about it bob??? i'm not sure about current pricing but
i think it is available from amsat-na ...
trakbox - well, not a pc type program but a stand alone
controller available as a kit from tapr, has lcd
display, you download keps via serial port and it does
the rest... tracks, controls az/el, automatically
switches to sat as it becomes visable at your qth
and you can prioritize which sat it will look at
if more than one is visable (and with what seems
like a new sat going online every month, there are
lots of 'em visable at the same time)... price is
~$175 from tapr, they will have new batch of kits
available in feb, contact them on the net tapr.org
the trakbox was jointly developed by tapr and
jamsat (japanese amsat) with much assistance from
jack, wa4ejr@tapr.org (tell him mitch sent you)...
you can't go wrong with any of the above!!! my trakbox is almost ready...
i got tired of my computer being tied up tracking and the aggravation
of trying to get tracking, satellite sequencing, and pg/pb all
running at the same time under desqview... with the trakbox doing
the tracking/sequencing of my antennas it should be much easier
to get pg/pb properly sequenced for *completely* (well, almost)
unattended pacsat operation... (and i wouldn't have sold my dsp-2232
if i had known aea was trying to fix the dsp-2232/pg timing glitch)
any other comments???
mitch, wa4osr
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Felton "Mitch" Mitchell, WA4OSR in Mobile, Alabama USA
205-342-7259 home, 205-476-4100 work, 205-476-0465 FAX
co-sysop for W4IAX bbs running fbb ... sysop for WA4OSR DXCluster in Mobile..
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 18:58:57 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!slegrand@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Satel Tracking Software
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
Bob Kupiec (bob@olwejo.UUCP) wrote:
: In <2f2r9b$nc3@hip-hop.sbay.org>, benjie@hip-hop.sbay.org writes:
: >I am getting interested in satel tracking, and I would like
: >suggestions on what tracking shareware I should get.
: For a UNIX system, (or possibly any computer with a good C compiler
: i.e. gcc) SatTrack 1.7 was just released. So far, it's the best
: freely-available tracking software I've found for UNIX. SatTrack does
: not use X, but vt100 screen mapping.
: It's the best UNIX, free, non-X satellite tracker there is.
: If anyone's seen better, feel free to let me know!
: --
: Bob Kupiec, N3MML Internet: bob@zero.com
: Morrisville, PA, USA (or) kupiec@jvnc.net
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: "Motorola 68k Inside!" PGP key 1F9C51 available ~ Get WiReD
Is there any good freely distributable tracking programs that use X?
BTW, What is the home ftp site for SatTrack?
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* Sr. Systems Programmer * because it is useful; he studies it *
* ICW * because he delights in it, and he *
* (619)-546-2457 * delights in it because it is beautiful. *
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 20:25:23 GMT
From: yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!msc.edu!vulcan.iss.bnr.com!vulcan!tgb@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Satel Tracking Software
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
>
>Is there any good freely distributable tracking programs that use X?
>BTW, What is the home ftp site for SatTrack?
>
Try xsat for X windows.
$ archie -s xsat
Host gatekeeper.dec.com
Location: /.9/X11/contrib
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 10 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 10 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host harbor.ecn.purdue.edu
Location: /pub/davy
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 9 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host pdq.coe.montana.edu
Location: /pub/mirrors/X11-contrib
FILE -rw-r--r-- 1973 Apr 8 1992 xsat.README.gz
FILE -rw-r--r-- 1059650 Mar 28 1993 xsat1.0.tar.gz
Host sunsite.unc.edu
Location: /pub/X11/contrib
FILE -rw-r--r-- 4173 Sep 8 1992 xsat.README
FILE -rw-r--r-- 1647479 Sep 8 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host cs.columbia.edu
Location: /archives/mirror1/X11R5/contrib
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 4173 Apr 9 1992 xsat.README
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 1062429 Apr 9 1992 xsat1.0.tar.gz
Host dimacs.rutgers.edu
Location: /pub/workshop/avg
FILE -rwxr-xr-x 81920 Oct 10 09:25 maxsatJul30
Host ftp.cs.umn.edu
Location: /pub/X/contrib
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 9 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 9 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host ftp.germany.eu.net
Location: /X11/contrib
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 10 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 10 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host ftp.luth.se
Location: /pub/X11/contrib
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 10 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 10 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host ftp.msen.com
Location: /pub/gopher/stuff/stuff.old/sci.all
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 3437 Apr 15 1992 .xsat.announce
Host ftp.sunet.se
Location: /pub/X11/contrib
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 9 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 9 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
Host ftp.uu.net
Location: /pub/window-sys/X/contrib
FILE -rw-r--r-- 2479 Apr 9 1992 xsat.README.Z
DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Nov 19 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z-split
Host ftp.wustl.edu
Location: /packages/X11R5/contrib-pub
FILE -r--r--r-- 4173 Apr 8 1992 xsat.README
FILE -r--r--r-- 1647479 Apr 8 1992 xsat1.0.tar.Z
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 22:27:11 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!jvnc.net!kupiec@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: SatTrack 1.7 / Xsat / Xephem / SFS
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
Since a few people have sent email wondering where SatTrack 1.7 can be
found. It's at at ucsd.edu, dir "hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming".
Again SatTrack is a realtime satellite tracker that uses vt100 screen
mapping. You don't need X11 or curses.
=======
Now onto more interesting questions. ;-) Has anyone stipped Xsat
down to use just it's Postscript mapping? I want to run Xsat on a
non-X workstation and print the Postscript maps. I guess I could
hack at the code again, but I'm wondering if someone has done it
already.
The reason being I'm using all of the programs mentioned in the
Subject: header and each of them has useful features. Does somebody
want to combine all of them and save me a whole bunch of work? ;-)
Xsat: uses N3EMO's "orbit" to generate Postscript tracking maps
SatTrack: provides real-time data on a satellite
SFS (Space Flight Simulator): Has a nice X display, somewhat like on
NASA Select TV
Xephem: Can track earth satellites in real-time, but meant for
planets/stars.
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Bob Kupiec Email: kupiec@jvnc.net JvNC (GES, Inc.)
Network Operations Ham: N3MML 3 Independence Way
Phone: 609-897-7319 Fax: 609-897-7310 Princeton, NJ 08540
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 15:14:00 PST
From: almaden.ibm.com@uunet.uu.net
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
References <2f2r9b$nc3@hip-hop.sbay.org>, <CIDC60.CtA@olwejo.UUCP>, <slegrandCIpJEB.1Kx@netcom.com>
Reply-To : inote
Subject : What was the first major use of PRML signal processing scheme?
I'm helping a magazine editor check some facts in a draft article on
digital-read disk drives and thought someone here might be able to
help with one of his questions:
What was the first significant application of the PRML
(partial-response/maximum likelihood) digital signal processing
technique?
The editor understands that it was in the communication setup with
deep space probes (such as the Viking Lander). True? If not, what
were earlier examples?
Unfortunately, the magazine's deadline is Tuesday, Dec 28. So a rapid
reply (or pointer to a reference) would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Mike Ross
Communications (PR)
Almaden Research Center
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 22:32:36 GMT
From: usc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!jvnc.net!kupiec@network.ucsd.edu
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu
References <2f2r9b$nc3@hip-hop.sbay.org>, <CIDC60.CtA@olwejo.UUCP>, <slegrandCIpJEB.1Kx@netcom.com>
Subject : Re: Satel Tracking Software
In <slegrandCIpJEB.1Kx@netcom.com>, slegrand@netcom.com writes:
>Bob Kupiec (bob@olwejo.UUCP) wrote:
>: In <2f2r9b$nc3@hip-hop.sbay.org>, benjie@hip-hop.sbay.org writes:
>: >I am getting interested in satel tracking, and I would like
>: >suggestions on what tracking shareware I should get.
>
>: For a UNIX system, (or possibly any computer with a good C compiler
>: i.e. gcc) SatTrack 1.7 was just released. So far, it's the best
>: freely-available tracking software I've found for UNIX. SatTrack does
>: not use X, but vt100 screen mapping.
>
>BTW, What is the home ftp site for SatTrack?
I'm posting the release note for SatTrack 1.7 in case you have not
seen it.
Bob
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Hello satellite enthusiasts,
the latest version of the satellite tracking program I've written for Unix
machines is pretty much ready to be used. I hope most of the bugs have been
found (at least the remaining ones ought to be of minor impact). You can get
SatTrack from ucsd.edu (128.54.16.1). Do the following:
ftp ucsd.edu
login anonymous
cd hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming
get sattrack.V1.7.tar.Z
Place this file into your Unix home directory, uncompress it, and then
type 'tar xvpf sattrack.V1.7.tar'. This will unbundle the distribution file
and create all subdirectories that are necessary. Then look into the
documentation file 'sattrack.doc' in SatTrack/Doc for instructions how to
compile sattrack (and some other auxiliary programs). Please let me know how
it works and if there are any bugs that I haven't encountered yet. It should
compile perfectly on at least Sun-3's (SunOS 4.0.3) and SPARCstation IPCs
(SunOS 4.1.1). Some machines require stdlib.h to be included. In this case
comment out the line
#define SUNOS4
in sattrack.h before compilation. I hope this program is helpful to you.
73, Manfred --- W6/DL5KR
Manfred Bester
Space Sciences Lab
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720
(510) 642-8497
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Bob Kupiec Email: kupiec@jvnc.net JvNC (GES, Inc.)
Network Operations Ham: N3MML 3 Independence Way
Phone: 609-897-7319 Fax: 609-897-7310 Princeton, NJ 08540
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