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Ham-Space Digest            Tue, 14 Dec 93       Volume 93 : Issue  110

Today's Topics:
                 APT-Satellites: Report DEC 11, 1993
                          DOVE Transmitting?
                      Free Radio Bands Questions
                           Nasa space link
                          New To Satellites
                            Space Camp BBS
                Weather Satellite Radio Report 1/1993

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 08:27:41 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!gmd.de!peter.henne%gmd.de@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: APT-Satellites: Report DEC 11, 1993
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

Observed at station 50.7 NLat, 7.1 ELon, DEC 11, 1993

NOAA-9:      APT 137.62 On
NOAA-10:     APT 137.50 *OFF*
NOAA-11:     APT 137.62 On
NOAA-12:     APT 137.50 On
Meteor 2-21: APT 137.85 ?? *
Meteor 3-3:  APT 137.30 *OFF*
Meteor 3-5:  APT 137.30 On

NOAA-10 APT is off due to VHF-conflict with NOAA-12.
Meteor 3-3 approaches morning terminator, APT is off.
Meteor 2-21 too orbits around the day/night-boundary,
but Mike Kenny (Bureau of Meteorology, Melbourne, Australia)
received APT on DEC 08.
Meteor 3-5 transmits good vis-APT from noon-ascending passes,
but still uses 20 lpm-format for IR-imaging from dark parts
of the orbit (channel-switching occures at 65 deg NLat now).

+------------------------------------------+
|Peter Henne (peter.henne@gmd.de)          |
|            (henne@gmd.de)                |
|German Nat.Research Center.f.Comp.Science |
|D-5205 St.AUGUSTIN 1                      |
|Fed.Rep. of Germany                       |
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Date: 13 Dec 93 16:26:14 GMT
From: ogicse!hp-cv!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!billg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: DOVE Transmitting?
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

I've been away from amateur radio awhile as my HT batteries died and I never
replaced them.  What I want to know is, is the DOVE microsat still
transmitting?  Did they ever get the voice portion of the transmission 
working?  At what time does it pass near enough to the San Francisco bay
area for me to hear it?  I've been listening for it for several days now
for hours at a time at random portions of the day and have heard nothing.
I have not been monitoring in the middle of the night however.

Thanks!!

- Bill G

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 17:27:17 GMT
From: yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!uum1!kksys.com!edgar!technix!c1mpls!roesler@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Free Radio Bands Questions
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

mb7s@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Mikhail  Boukhny) writes:
: Someone has asked me recently what if he wants to build a competing network
: for cellular phones. Are there any gaps yet in the bandwidth? Whom should he
: ask to? Federal Communication Commission? Any information would be appreciated.

No such luck, Mike.  There are some upcoming initiatives before the FCC
regarding spectrum expansion for wireless LAN networks, PCS, and digital
messaging, etc., but nothing that's available for the public.  Any new
spectrum allocation will almost certainly br accompanied by a license
lottery, for which the applicant must post significant bond as proof of
his/her ability to build a system.

SMR, which was more akin to the older style 'mobile operator' phone system
has undergone significant chages in the last few years, and is very
cellular-like, although you don't really use cells, and roaming options
are quite limited.  SMR operators are employing these systems on the
existing SMR spectrum.

PCS is also getting a lot of attention, but the existing cellular carriers
are making great strides at providing these services given their existing
equipment.

I would say your friend's cash is a lot safer in the bank than it is
trying to create a new communications competitor.  You're better off
investing in one of the existing options- getting new spectrum for your
own project would cost millions and require at least 5 years of paperwork.

(My thoughts, not my employer's, who obviously disagreed with me)
-- 
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*  Max Roesler          |                   roesler@loki.ncent.mccaw.com *
*  EIS Project Manager  |                Minneapolis, MN; (612) 832-7653 *
*  McCaw Communications |                PP-ASEL (C172); N0RGH (EN34/35) *

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:20:37 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel!rat!zimmer!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Nasa space link
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

It appears that the telnet number for the Space link has changed.( I
can't get in.) could someone please give me the verbose address as I
have lost it, or at least the new telnet number. Thanks Norm.

norm_davis@zimmer.CSUFresno.edu

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Date: 12 Dec 1993 16:01:41 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!concert!lester.appstate.edu!usenet@ames.arpa
Subject: New To Satellites
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

Hello everyone.

Just a quick question.  I'm have been tracking amateur satellites for about a
year or so, listening to SAREX and the like with the shuttle, listening to
beacons on other birds.

I'm interested in doing a little QSO work with these birds, but I can't seem
to locate a book or anything with all the frequencies and information on the
basics.  Can anyone suggest a file to FTP or book to get that would explain
much of it to me?

Thanks in advance...

Matt Warner, kc4yls
warnerma@vax1.elon.edu

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Date: 10 Dec 1993 16:14:38 -0600
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!mr.net!news.cord.edu!cobber.cord.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Space Camp BBS
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

Some time ago I heard that NASA had created a computer BBS at one of their
space camp sites and attached it to the INTERNET somewhere.  Can anyone
verify this and mail me their INTERNET address?

Thanks
Dan Thureen

thureen@cobber.cord.edu

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 19:59:00 +0200
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!fuug!compart!leo.wikholm@ames.arpa
Subject: Weather Satellite Radio Report 1/1993
To: ham-space@ucsd.edu

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   WEATHER SATELLITE RADIO REPORT 1/1993
   *************************************

   December 12, 1993. Helsinki, Finland.
   Finnish Weather Satellite Group

   Status of polar-orbiting weather satellites:

   satellite    frequency     status
   ====================================================================
   NOAA 9       137,620 MHz   after 17 UT. 2 x IR pictures
   NOAA 10      137,500 MHz   normal
   NOAA 11      137,620 MHz   normal. 2 x IR pictures after 14.40 UT
   NOAA 12      137,500 MHz   normal
   METEOR 2-21  137,400 MHz   not active. weak signal in Sep 93
   METEOR 3-3   137,300 MHz   occasional
   METEOR 3-5   137,300 MHz   normal + additional data signal (*
   ====================================================================

   *) Meteor 3-5 sends normal visible channel pictures. When the satellite
      crosses +60N latitude the additional data signal is detected.


   Please send your observations or comments to:

       Leo Wikholm
       internet: leo.wikholm@compart.fi
       FidoNet : 2:220/861

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