Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 04:30:55 PST From: Ham-Space Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-space@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Ham-Space-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Space@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Ham-Space Digest V93 #98 To: Ham-Space Ham-Space Digest Fri, 3 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 98 Today's Topics: * SpaceNews 29-Nov-93 * Control of Amateur Satellites (2 msgs) Welcome to rec.radio.info! Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Ham-Space@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Ham-Space-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Space Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-space". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 09:49:46 MST From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!darwin.sura.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!ersys!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: * SpaceNews 29-Nov-93 * To: ham-space@ucsd.edu SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC1129 * SpaceNews 29-Nov-93 * BID: $SPC1129 ========= SpaceNews ========= MONDAY NOVEMBER 29, 1993 SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA. It is published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution. * KITSAT-OSCAR-25 NEWS * ======================== KO-25 Operation Status Report 13 (24-Nov-93) 1. General Kernal and other OBC186 S/Ws are all loaded and running well. Spacecraft is showing healthy condition. Battery is being discharged very small amount compared to KO-23. Still using TX0 as it is showing very good performance. 2. Experiments Carried Out 2.1 CCD Earth Imaging System Two camaras onboard are showing good pictures of Earth. The Black and white high resolution (200 meter) camera is showing excellent pictures. The color camera with low resolution (2 kilometer) is also showing great images after some color mapping process. Other than the color imager's gain control difficulty, the camera system is working well and taking pictures everyday. 2.2 InfraRed Sensor Experiment (IREX) IREX has been on since the beginning of the KO-25 operation. This experiment is to acquire I/V characteristics of IR sensors. Passive cooling structure was devised for this experiment and currently we are monitoring the temperature of this cooling system. 3. Experiments on the way 3.1 KASCOM (KAIST Satellite Computer) The initial check out is on the way. A SaTReC developed multitasking kernel and long-term memory test task are to be commenced the initial test. 3.2 DSPE 38.4 kbps Downlink booster is being developed by utilizing DSPE. Protocol test is still being carried out on the ground. 3.3 LEED (Low Energy Electron Detector) After sufficient time for outgassing period, in December this device will be turned on. 4. Other Information The uplink to KO-25 will not be available currently. It will be open with KO-25 BBS service after the system check out completion. Some of the good pictures from KO-25 will be released through KO-23 for the time being. For more info contact: hskim@satrec.kaist.ac.kr FAX) +82 42 861 0064 Tel) +82 42 869 8614 SaTReC, KAIST [Info via Hyung Shin Kim] * MICROSAT ANTENNA POLARIZATION * ================================= There has been a certain amount of confusion concerning the sense of the polarization of the Microsat downlinks. The following by Jim White, WD0E, is an attempt to clarify the situation. The two transmitters in each Microsat are connected to a canted turnstile downlink antenna through a hybrid. The two input ports they are connected to are out of phase with each other. When one transmitter is on, the sense of the downlink will be RHCP, and when the other is on, it will be LHCP. When controllers switch transmitters, they also switch polarization sense. No sense is "normal". During construction there was no attempt to make a particular transmitter a particular sense. The limiting factor was how to fit the semi-rigid cables connecting all the various parts together in the tiny space inside the transmitter module. Additionally, since one of the objectives of the Microsat Project was to create satellites that could be used with very simple portable ground stations using simple omni-directional antennas, there was no need to be concerned about polarization sense. When receiving with a circularly polarized ground station antennas, miss-matched sense can make several dB of difference at times. The most strongly circular signal (or the one with the lowest eccentricity) will be received by the ground station when the bottom of the satellite is pointed directly at it. For stations at about 35 to 50 degrees north or south latitude, this occurres when the satellites are directly overhead and slightly lower in latitude. For all but LO-19, the turnstile is pointed down in the northern hemisphere. For LO-19, it's down in the southern hemisphere. At other times the sense is effected by a variety of other influences and cannot be relied on. If you have a circularly polarized Yagi with switchable sense you can perform a test to see which transmitter provides which polarization. Throughout a pass, but particularly when the satellite is nearly overhead, switch sense every few seconds and see which is stronger. At times you will notice a large difference (AO-16 is 5 S units different on a TS811). The sense that consistantly provides the strongest signal over the majority of the pass is the sense of the downlink for that transmitter. And for all but DOVE, it also correlates to beacon frequency, since the 70 cm transmitters are all on different frequencies. DOVE is a special case since it's two transmitters are on nearly the same frequency. To make the correlations on DOVE you would need to do the same test as above, but also check which transmitter is in use as indicated by the STATUS line. We normally run TX#2 on DOVE because it is more efficient. The following provides beacon frequency and polarization sense for all the Microsat satellites: WO-18: 437.075 PSK LHCP (this TX is bad and not normally used) 437.100 RC RHCP (normally in use) LO-19: 437.153 PSK LHCP 437.125 RC/CW RHCP AO-16: 437.025 PSK LHCP (not presently in use) 437.050 RC RHCP (in use now) DO-17: 145.825 TX#1 LHCP 145.825 TX#2 RHCP (normally used, and in use now) [Info via Jim White, wd0e@amsat.org] * CHINA ON SATELLITES * ======================= The Tsinghua University Amateur Radio Club of Beijing, China is happy to report that the Chinese Radio Sports Association has provided them with some OSCAR satellite ground station equipment that they may use for approximately 6 months in an effort to become active on amateur satellites. The equipment consists of a Yaesu FT-726 dual-band transceiver, a crossed Yagi antenna, a 70cm amplifier, a receive preamplifier, and the elevation/ azimuth rotor system. Walter OE2CAL, an Austrian amateur noted in Europe for his V/UHF activities, and Dieter DJ7BU are scheduled to join the radio club in their efforts ot install the antenna system which has been delayed due to snowy weather. Both men are currently working in Beijing. The students at the Tsinghua University Amateur Radio Club are new to OSCAR operations and are trying very hard to get a station on the air from China. The club is currently in need of satellite reference manuals, books, and satellite tracking software that can help them get on the air. Information pertinent to satellite operation should be directed to Rick Niu, BY1QH, via any of the following paths: Packet: BY1QH @ JA5TX.JPN.AS Internet: Contact gateway_request@arasmith.com for more info Airmail: Rick Niu Public Relations Manager TUARC Room 316 Building 25 Tsinghua University Beijing 100084, China * THANKS! * =========== Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation regarding SpaceNews, especially: BY1QH VE1AXJ ZS2LR K7EA OH8UV WD9IYT * FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED * =========================== Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any of the following paths: FAX : 1-908-747-7107 PACKET : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA INTERNET : kd2bd@ka2qhd.ocpt.ccur.com -or- kd2bd@amsat.org MAIL : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD Department of Engineering and Technology Advanced Technology Center Brookdale Community College Lincroft, New Jersey 07738 U.S.A. <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>> /EX -- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD * /\/\ * Voice : 1-908-224-2948 Advanced Technology Center |/\/\/\| Packet : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: kd2bd@ka2qhd.ocpt.ccur.com Lincroft, NJ 07738 * \/\/ * Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 23:11:39 +0000 From: munnari.oz.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!warwick!uknet!demon!cosmo.demon.co.uk!chris@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Control of Amateur Satellites To: ham-space@ucsd.edu In article <2dc7cg$2sa@qualcomm.com> antonio@qualcomm.com writes: >For attitude determination, almost all have used sun and earth sensors. >The UoSat series, built at U. of Surrey, have used flux-gate magnetometers. >P3D, now under design, and the most ambitious amateur satellite to date, >is planned to use GPS for attitude determination. > As far as I know, GPS is only usable for _orbit_ determination, i.e. location in space, and _not_ for attitude determination, i.e. which way the satellite is pointing. Of course, correct if me if I'm wrong! Regards, Chris Payne. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Dec 93 16:59:59 From: idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org!idacrd!n4hy@uunet.uu.net Subject: Control of Amateur Satellites To: ham-space@ucsd.edu You are indeed wrong. AMSAT's Phase III-D intends on using GPS to do attitude determination amongst other things. You need multiple antennas and then do interferometry but it can be done. Bob -- Robert W. McGwier | n4hy@ccr-p.ida.org Interests: ham radio, Center for Communications Research | scouts, astronomy,and golf Princeton, N.J. 08520 | ASM Troop 5700, ACM Pack 53 Hightstown (609)-279-6240(v) (609)-924-3061(f)| I used to be a Buffalo . . . NE III-120 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 21:01:46 MST From: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!bohica!rec-radio-info@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Welcome to rec.radio.info! To: ham-space@ucsd.edu Archive-name: radio/rec-radio-info/welcome Last-modified: $Date: 1993/05/16 21:57 $ Version: $Revision: 1.05 $ *** Welcome to rec.radio.info! *** Welcome to rec.radio.info, a group that aims to provide a noise-free source of information and news for the entire rec.radio hierarchy. Two introductory articles about rec.radio.info are posted to the group and to news.answers every two weeks. You are now reading the first article, which explains what rec.radio.info is, and answers some Frequently Asked Questions. The second article is titled "Submission Guidelines", and you only need to read it if you want to submit an article to rec.radio.info. You can skip to the next section of this article by searching for the next " -- " string. The sections available are: - What is the purpose of rec.radio.info? - Why are messages almost always cross posted to rec.radio.info? - What is a 'follow-up', and what does 'moderated' mean? - OK, so now I know what 'moderated' means. Tell me more. - What type of material is considered inappropriate? - I do not have access to news, how can I get the information posted to rec.radio.info? - Will the material appearing in rec.radio.info be archived somewhere? - I have a regular posting with timely information, is there a way to speed up it's delivery, or automate for more convenience? -- What is the purpose of rec.radio.info? The purpose or charter of rec.radio.info is to provide the Usenet community with a resource for information, news, and facts about any and all things radio. All the other rec.radio groups are intended for discussions and general chit chat about radio. Rec.radio.info will contain informational, factual articles only. Follow-ups are redirected to an appropriate other group, and further discussion (if any) will not take place in rec.radio.info. In order to ensure that rec.radio.info contains only appropriate articles, it was decided to create the group as a moderated newsgroup. -- Why are messages almost always cross posted to rec.radio.info? It provides a "tag" for each article to be assembled into a filtered presentation in rec.radio.info (even with cross-posting, only one message, with a unique Message-ID, is propogated across the net). This tag also facilitates a pre-existing method of dropping or cancelling the articles locally within the discussion groups if you don't want to see them. This accommodates individuals who want to separate the bulletins from the discussions, discussions from the bulletins, as well as those who are adamant about not reading another newsgroup and wanted to see everything all in one basket. With the total size of Usenet (in number of newsgroups and total traffic) doubling every year or so, this is no insignificant contribution to reducing information noise and chaos. Making the discussion groups a catch-all, and making extra newsgroups filters on that catch-all, is also the most realistic way to implement such a scheme (It's not intuitively obvious what the charter, contents, and general appropriate topics for each and every newsgroup are. Seeing FAQ's and charter/intro postings in the home newsgroup is beneficial for new readers). By cross-posting one only is adding a few tens of bytes to each bulletin (to specify the extra group on the Newsgroups line), but are adding the capability for very powerful filtering features available on most news servers, listservers and readers. Your local news guru could probably explain these features in more detail. In rn, for example, according to Leanne Phillips in her rn kill-file FAQ, add a line of the form: /Newsgroups:.*[ ,]rec\.radio\.info/h:j either in ~/News/KILL (if you don't want to see rec.radio.info articles anywhere) or ~/News/rec/radio/amateur/misc/KILL (if you don't want to see them just in rec.radio.amateur.misc). The latter method means your kill file will only be consulted during rec.radio.amateur.misc (and hence runs more efficiently), and will probably work for most people. In nn, according to Bill Wohler in his nn FAQ, add a line of the form: rec.radio.info:!s/:^ in ~/.nn/kill (if you don't want to see rec.radio.info articles anywhere), or put the following lines: sequence rec.radio.info rec.radio. at the end of ~/.nn/init in order to see all the rec.radio.info bulletins first, then read the remaining rec.radio.* without the bulletins. -- What is a 'follow-up', and what does 'moderated' mean? If you are new to Usenet and are not familiar with the terminology, you might want to read the general introductory articles found in the newsgroup news.announce.newusers. Doing so will make your life on the net much easier, and will probably save you from making silly beginner's mistakes. If you think that at this moment you are reading an echo, a conference, or a bulletin board, I'd also strongly suggest a trip over to news.announce.newusers. For the rest of this article, I will assume you have a basic knowledge of Usenet terminology and mechanics. A moderated group means that any article that needs to be posted to the group has to be accepted by the moderator of the group. Since we need to ensure that followups to an article (discussion) do not show up in the rec.radio.info newsgroup, the `Followup-To:' header line contains a newsgroup that is appropriate for disussions about the specific article. -- OK, so now I know what 'moderated' means. Tell me more. Rec.radio.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles submitted to the group will have to be approved by the moderator first. The current moderator of the group is Mark Salyzyn. Submissions to rec.radio.info can be posted, or e-mailed to: rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca Comments, criticisms, suggestions or questions about the group can be e-mailed to: rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca But before you do so, please be sure to check out the "Submission Guidelines" article. The influence of the moderator should be minimal and of an administrative nature, consisting chiefly of weeding out obviously inappropriate articles, while making sure correct headers etc. are used for the appropriate ones. -- What type of material is considered inappropriate? There are three broad categories of articles which will be rejected by the moderator: 1) Requests for information: rec.radio.info is strictly a one-way street. I receive information in my mailbox; I then post it to rec.radio.info. Requests for specific information belong in the normal discussion newsgroups. If your request gets answered, you might consider passing the answer on to rec.radio.info, though. Especially if you can edit it into a informational, rather than a discussion, format. 2) Obvious discussion articles, or articles that appear unsubstantiated. 3) Commercial stuff: a relatively unbiased test of a radio product would be accepted, but any hint of for-profit might be reason for rejection. For three reasons: This is not the purpose of the list, for-profit is a controversial topic, and this list may be passed onto Amateur Packet Radio (where for-profit is prohibited except under certain provisos). rec.radio.swap (or possibly comp.newprod) may be more deserving of the posting in any matter. Similarly, copyrighted material generally cannot be used. If it's TRULY worthwhile to the net, I would recommend obtaining permission from the copyright holder. Please note the source, and if permission was given. I reserve the right to make the final decision concerning appropriateness in all situations. In most cases, a brief summary of, or pointer to, the copyrighted information may be all I can allow. -- I do not have access to news, how can I get the information posted to rec.radio.info? brian@UCSD.EDU (Brian Kantor) has kindly supplied a mail list server for rec.radio.info. Non of the articles will be digested, due to their size, so you will receive individual mailings for every article posted to the group. Mail sent to radio-info@ucsd.edu will be forwarded to the moderator and thus is an alias to rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca To subscribe and unsubscribe via the listserver; the format for that is sub address radio-info unsub address radio-info where 'address' is your full mailing address. Send this request to listserv@ucsd.edu Note that the server will automatically delete any address that bounces mail. If you leave the address portion blank, it will try to deduce your address from the mail headers. This may not work if you are on bitnet, milnet or some other non-Unix host, so it is recommended to put your return address in any case. For example: sub mymailbox@myhost.mydomain.mil radio-info or sub MEMEME01@DMBHST.bitnet radio-info or something like that. -- Will the material appearing in rec.radio.info be archived somewhere? Yes. Still firming up details at the moment but here is a preliminary list: - unbc.edu as maintained by Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@unbc.edu> - nic.funet.fi maintained by Risto Kotalampi <rko@cs.tut.fi> saved to /pub/dx/text/rec.radio.info currently stored as numbered files. Effectively this means that anything you post to rec.radio.info will be permanently stored, so your work will not be lost. -- I have a regular posting with timely information, is there a way to speed up it's delivery, or automate for more convenience? Yes, there is! It may take a bit of chatter with the moderator, but we are willing to take responsible people and provide them the means of posting the articles directly from their site. We will try everything we can as we fully realize that DX (distant signal) and astronomical data can be somewhat transitory. We are also willing to allow regular posters of information the same courtesy, even if the information is not as time critical. We refer to this as self-moderation, which is partly based on the model for news.answer. This requires co-operation and good will to be beneficial to the community in the rec.radio hierarchy. I suggest reading the posting guidelines for more information. I am open to suggestions. I thank the following individuals for their input into this article: rec.music.info moderator Leo Breebaart rec-music-info@cp.tn.tudelft.nl rec.radio.broadcasting moderator Bill Pfeiffer wdp@gagme.chi.il.us Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU pschleck@unomaha.edu Ian Kluft, KD6EUI ikluft@uts.amdahl.com -- Mark Salyzyn -- Moderator rec.radio.info Submissions to: rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca Administrivia to: rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca * Requests for information do *not* belong in rec.radio.info * ------------------------------ End of Ham-Space Digest V93 #98 ****************************** ******************************