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Info-Hams Digest Tue, 5 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 379
Today's Topics:
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Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended
ARRL Strange Proposals
ARRL Wrong Proposals
Commercial Service in 10M Band?
HAM ON BIKE (2 msgs)
IPS Monthly Report - March 94
License Time For 1a Element?
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Date: 5 Apr 94 06:24:02 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!idmb-secretary.tamu.edu!user@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: 73
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CnqrBM.940@world.std.com>, drt@world.std.com (David R Tucker)
wrote:
> people prefer "iced water"? (My wife drinks "ice water", which is
> terribly illogical - how can a liquid be a solid? and if it is, how
> do you drink ice?
Simple, the freezing point of water (32 F or 0 C) is the point where the
solid and liquid form can co-exist, therefore, "ice water" is water at
exactly the freezing point :)
Pedantically yours,
Troyce
KC5CBI
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Date: 5 Apr 94 19:14:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!abercrombie.Stanford.EDU!paulf@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary McDuffie Sr) writes:
>I still see no reason whatsoever for the first BBS to be held
>accountable. It makes no sense at all. Why should anyone, other than
>the originator, be held accountable for his actions? He wrote it, he
>should take the lumps for it. If he uses someone else's call, track
>him down, like any other mode.
Note that in the Press Release, accountability of the first hop is only
required if the originating station is not authenticated. Now, what will
constitute proper authentication is a good question, and we'll have to see
the actual Part 97 wording change to see what this really means.
--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX | "The Enemy of the Good is the Better."
->paulf@Stanford.EDU | -- Gen. William "Wild Bill" Donovan
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Date: 5 Apr 94 22:58:20 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL Strange Proposals
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
TO : The DXCC Commitee
The DXAC Commitee
The ARRL
All Hams
Gentlemen,
Following our previous message, we cannot avoid writing this second one, for
the very simple reason, that yesterday one of us received the January issue
of the QST magazine.
In this issue, we noticed an article about the Peter I Island.
Gentlemen of the ARRL, DXCC and DXAC commitees, you must have a very strange
way of deciding which countries you are going to put in your DXCC list. From
what we read in that article (and if our English are not that poor), it is
obvious that you went too far, to include the Peter I island in your list,
before even someone had requested it.
Now the Peter I Island is a deserted part of land, with no permanent population
with only birds, fog and ice being its permanent residents. YOU GENTLEMEN
included this God-forgotten place in your DXCC list.
On the other hand, someone from your organization, is proposing to you to
delete Mt. Athos. A populated area, with at least one licensed radio amateur,
living permanently in the area.
We must say gentlemen, we admire your sense of humour. Because if this proposal
wasn't made, just because its originator had a lot of humour, then one must
wonder what his real intentions were. We all wish we knew the name(s) of that
person in order to be able to contact him and find out what are his real
reasons for proposing the deletion of Mt Athos. They most surely had nothing
to do with the well-being of our hobby.
We will have to admit gentlemen, that it is either you that forgot the basic
principles of our hobby, or that all your advises printed in the books you
publish, are nothing but hot air (sorry, a four-letter word would be more
appropriate but our good manners forbid its usage).
We urge you to think again, before accepting such a proposal, which will
make you openly involved in politics.
LET'S KEEP AMATEUR RADIO AWAY FROM POLITICS
John Caradimas (SV1CEC) Dimitris Gavalas (SV1BTO)
49, Lomvardou Street 47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens 117-44, Athens
GREECE GREECE
Danae Nika (SV1CIQ) Korina Sfakiotaki (SV1CDQ)
49, Lomvardou Street 47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens 117-44, Athens
GREECE
Dimitris Kaiafas (SV1BTW)
16, Manis Street
124-62, Athens
GREECE
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Date: 5 Apr 94 22:56:56 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL Wrong Proposals
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
To : All Radio Amateurs
The DXCC commitee
The DXAC commitee
Gentlemen,
A recent "Proposed Vote for Schedule" has been announced by the DXAC
Chairman, which includes the topics of Mount Athos Deletion and acceptance
of the pseudo-state of the occupied part of Cyprus, in the DXCC list.
It is quite clear to us and probably to every greek radio amateur, that the
above proposal, sounds like a blackmail effort or a threat. It can easily be
translated to "make SV/A active again, or we delete it, and add the pseudo-
state instead", or even to "behave or you will be punished".
We would like to remind to Mr. Chairman, as well as any one else behind
these proposals, the followings :
- The pseudo-state that you propose to accept as a DXCC country has
resulted from the unprovoked invasion of the Turks military forces in Cyprus,
in 1974. It is therefore a result of a violent act, from one country against
another. Are you gentlemen of the DXAC commitee going to appraise
and encourage such acts, by proposals like the one mentioned above?
- Are you aware gentlemen, that the northern part of Cyprus is still -
since 1974- under armed occupation, by the Turkish Armed Forces and
that there are still homeless people, forced to abandon their properties
and home land? We very well remember that some years ago, when Iraq
invaded Kuwait, an international force was assembled to liberate the
occupied country. Of course, such a force was never assembled for
Cyprus, but then again, Cyprus is not producing any oil. This however
does not give you, or anybody else, the right to create a status quo, with
stupid proposals, like yours.
- The pseudo-state gentlemen, has not been recognized by any
international organization (like UN or EC) or by any other country, except
of course Turkey. Are you gentlement going to replace these
international organizations in their role, or your real intentions are to
exercize pressure to these organizations to recognize countries
according to your (hidden, possibly financial) wishes (or interests)? Also,
are you aware that there have been several appeals to the UN against Turkey,
and that Turkey has been condemned by the UN for its acts? Are you
encouraging Turkey's acts by your proposals?
- The DXAC, the DXCC and all other radio amateur organizations, as
well as radio amateurs themselves, have to stick to the rules of amateur
radio, as they are defined after years of ham activity. One of the most
basic rules of our hobby is that amateur radio stays clear of politics
or personal financial interests. How can it be then, that you are currently
taking part in a very old debate between Cyprus and Turkey? Is it
possible that financial reasons are behind your proposals?
- The Mount Athos gentlemen is not just a banch of "mounts". It is a holy
area of the Romanian, Yugoslavian, Russian, Bulgarian and Greek
churches, or even better put, of the whole Christian Orthodox world.
Mount Athos is entirely populated by monks, and Apollo is the only monk
in the whole world who is an active radio amateur (at least from what we
are aware of). When Apollo stopped its DX activities, a lot of hams
around the world complained and urge him to repeate them. Now
gentlemen, you are proposing the deletion of SV/A from the DXCC list.
Of course, this is not the first time that you are making such proposals,
maybe because you consider yourselves authorised to decide on
subjects affecting everybody in our hobby, without asking anybody's
opinion.
As far as we are concerned, dear fellow hams, we promise you that if these
proposals are ever voted, we will stop all DX activities, and will encourage
other Greek hams to do the same, so that the SV prefix becomes as rare as the
SV/A is today. Then again, the DXCC commitee might very well delete SV from
their list, but we certainly do not care to be part of a list created by
ignorant, politically influenced mappets.
The following radio amateurs are signing this message :
John Caradimas (SV1CEC) Dimitris Kaiafas (SV1BTW)
49, Lomvardou Street 16, Manis Street
114-74, Athens 124-62, Chaidari, Athens
GREECE GREECE
Danae Nika (SV1CIQ) Dimitris Gavalas (SV1BTO)
49 Lomvardou Street 47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens 117-44, Athens
GREECE GREECE
Korina Sfakiotaki (SV1CDQ)
47 Kassomouli Street
117-44, Athens
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:58:09 GMT
From: worldbank.org!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Commercial Service in 10M Band?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
While reading this week's copy of Network World (dated March 28th), I noticed
on page 58 a table showing the comparisons between the various proposals for
global satellite communications. One which caught my eye was the proposal by
Bill Gates (a'ka Mr. Microsoft) and McCaw to use 840 (yep, 840) low-orbit
satellites using frequencies in the 28mHz range. This compared to Irridium (66
satellies in the 1.6 Ghz range), and Globestar (48 satellites in the 1.6 Ghz
range). Interesting proposal... but I doubt whether it would get approved by
the WARC.
-- Darrell NR3Y.
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Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 12:40:43 PDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!uhog.mit.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!toads.pgh.pa.us!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM ON BIKE
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'm trying to install a Kenwood 732A (UHF/VHF) Ham radio on my 86
Goldwing SEi.
I would like to intergrate it into the existing Honda intercom/radio
system if possible.
Any hints, tricks, traps.
J & M 's CF-400 (Universal Interface) ain't so universal.
fred (WB3CFI)
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Date: 5 Apr 1994 18:52:55 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!mbunix.mitre.org!cookson@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM ON BIKE
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2ns4t8$ch@toads.pgh.pa.us>, <fred@dke.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>
>I'm trying to install a Kenwood 732A (UHF/VHF) Ham radio on my 86
>Goldwing SEi.
Bummer, I had visions of a large hunk of smoked pork bungie corded to
a luggage rack. Oh well...
--
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714 | DoD #207 AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730 | KotNML / KotB |
| "It's what girls wear below the waist, instead | '92 VFR750F |
| of boys." --Amy Hillstrom (aka Muffy) | '88 Bianchi Limited |
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 03:28:34 GMT
From: swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!gossip.pyramid.com!sword.eng.pyramid.com!pta.pyramid.com.au!warrane.connect.com.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!harbinger.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: IPS Monthly Report - March 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SUBJ: IPS MONTHLY REPORT - MARCH 1994
ISSUED BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
1. SOLAR-GEOPHYSICAL INDICES
SOLAR MAGNETIC AUST
Day 10 cm flux A-INDEX T INDEX
March 01 094 10 47
March 02 098 17 73
March 03 101 18 64
March 04 098 03 46
March 05 096 06 76
March 06 096 10 89
March 07 091 37 62
March 08 091 38 -23
March 09 090 33 2
March 10 088 35 -8
March 11 088 29 25
March 12 093 27 6
March 13 090 21 -2
March 14 087 24 45
March 15 087 31 23
March 16 086 19 9
March 17 085 25 8
March 18 087 18 -6
March 19 089 14 43
March 20 089 10 47
March 21 091 22 25
March 22 091 17 18
March 23 092 15 57
March 24 093 18 60
March 25 091 12 44
March 26 089 09 61
March 27 088 09 64
March 28 088 09 63
March 29 086 06 61
March 30 086 09 54
March 31 085 05 10
10 CM FLUX SUNSPOT NUMBER A INDEX AUST FLARES
T INDEX
Monthly Monthly Yearly Monthly Monthly >M1.0
Month Average Average Average Average Average
March 94 90.5 31.7 17.5 36.9 0
February 94 99.5 35.9 22.5 38.0 2
January 94 115.0 58.8 12.4 60.2 11
December 93 104.9 49.4 10.4 56.4 8
November 93 95.8 34.8 11.7 50.0 3
October 93 100.2 55.4 11.6 31.3 3
September 93 86.3 21.7 48.2 12.3 33.6 2
August 93 93.7 42.0 52.1 11.0 48.7 1
July 93 99.0 57.3 54.4 10.6 59.6 4
June 93 109.4 49.1 55.8 13.0 62.6 13
May 93 112.4 61.2 59.6 11.0 64.3 5
April 93 115.5 61.9 63.4 15.7 77.7 3
March 93 136.6 70.5 66.5 18.9 81.5 13
IPS Predicted (Yearly Smoothed) Sunspot Numbers for October 1993-September 1994
Month Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep
SSN 45.3 42.7 40.4 38.1 36.1 35.5 34.2 32.3 30.5 27.6 25.2 23.9
Latest T-Indices for IPS Advanced Stand-Alone Prediction System-(ASAPS)
Last update: February 1994 Solar-Geophysical Summary
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1988 45 42 58 74 72 84 84 95 115 133 117 128
1989 147 164 135 140 141 157 162 149 143 159 164 152
1990 150 128 135 129 126 137 136 137 141 136 122 132
1991 143 177 173 165 136 124 142 128 137 132 122 131
1992 153 173 157 136 97 81 88 67 69 68 85 90
1993 75 78 81 65 63 63 59 50 36 34 33 42*
1994 39* 37* 36* 35* 34* 31* 29* 27* 24* 22* 21* 19*
1995 19* 18* 17* 16* 15* 14* 14* 13* 12* 11* 11* 10*
1996 10* 9* 9* 8* 8* 7* 8* 8* 9* 10* 11* 12*
1997 13* 14* 16* 18* 20* 22* 25* 28* 32* 35* 40* 46*
Asterisk indicates predicted value.
For information concerning ASAPS for an IBM PC (or compatible) contact IPS.
The IPS Monthly T-index is derived from the observed monthly median values
of foF2 for each hour at up to 40 ionospheric stations worldwide.
These records become available from IPS stations in Australia very soon after
each month, but the majority are received up to one year later.
This means that the exact observed value of the monthly T-index is not
available until some months later.
The predicted smoothed monthly T-indices are computed by using a statistical
analysis of the observed monthly T-indices for all solar cycles since 1938.
The IPS T-indices may not be updated each month but only when sufficient new
data becomes available.
===============================================================================
2. FLARES AND SHORT-WAVE FADEOUTS
All M flares with an energy greater than or equal to M1 are tabulated under
class M flares.
However, times of fade-outs are shown only for flares with an energy greater
than X-ray class M3.
DATE CLASS M CLASS X FADEOUT POSSIBLE
FLARES FLARES ON DAYLIGHT CIRCUIT
NO FLARES.
2.1 Comments on Solar Activity.
Solar activity was at very low to low levels throughout the month.
March 94 is the first month since June 87 where no M or X class
flares have been observed.
The daily 10cm flux again showed little variation throughout the month.
The peak value for the month was 101 on March 3. The
minimum value for the month was 85, which was observed on March 17 and 31.
===============================================================================
3. GEOMAGNETIC DISTURBANCES (for Learmonth, WA)
DATE COMMENTS
March 3 A period of minor storm levels occurred 09-12UT.
March 7-18 Active to minor storm levels were regularly observed
from March 7-12. Unsettled to active levels were then
observed March 13-18, with isolated minor storm
periods on March 15 and 17.
March 21-24 After subsiding over March 19-20, geomagnetic activity
picked up again from March 21-24, with unsettled to
active levels. This activity was associated with
a long lived recurrent disturbance pattern.
March 25 A period of minor storm levels occurred 15-18UT.
3.1 Comments on Geomagnetic Activity.
A recurrent pattern of geomagnetic activity appears to be emerging in
association with the lengthy disturbances observed in February and March.
Based on this pattern, significant levels of activity can be expected at times
during the period April 3 - April 14. The highest A index for the month was
38, recorded on March 8.
===============================================================================
4. IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCES (for Sydney)
DATE MUFs
March 7-13 Depressions of 15-40% were regularly observed during local
daylight hours over this period, with occasional night-time
Spread F. F2 layer critical frequencies were regularly
observed to drop below F1 layer critical frequencies in
the local morning during this time.
March 15-16 Depressions of 15-30% were observed 15/18 - 16/03UT.
March 17-18 Depressions of 15-40% were observed 17/18 - 18/16UT.
Night-time Spread F was also noted on both days.
March 21-22 Depressions of 15-25% were observed 21/21 - 22/10UT.
Night-time Spread F was noted on March 22.
March 31 Depressions of 15-20% were observed througout the day.
4.1 Comments on Ionospheric Conditions.
Frequencies were regularly enhanced relative to predicted monthly values up
until March 7, and from March 23 onwards.
The most significant depressions occurred on March 8-10, March 13 and March 18.
===============================================================================
5. IPS WARNINGS AND ALERTS ISSUED
WARNINGS:
NO ISSUE TIME ISSUE DATE BEGIN END COMMENTS
07 0511 UT 2 3 1994 3 3 1994 9 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
08 2338 UT 9 3 1994 10 3 1994 13 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
09 0208 UT 18 3 1994 18 3 1994 22 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
10 0044 UT 31 3 1994 3 4 1994 14 4 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
SIGNIFICANT EVENT SUMMARY NO TIME DATE COMMENTS
None Issued.
SWF WARNING NO TIME DATE
None Issued.
DATE OF ISSUE TYPE OF ALERT
04 Mar Magnetic
08 Mar Magnetic
09 Mar Magnetic
09 Mar Magnetic
10 Mar Magnetic
11 Mar Magnetic
13 Mar Magnetic
13 Mar Magnetic
16 Mar Magnetic
22 Mar Magnetic
DATE SWF BEGIN-END (UT)
None issued.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |AUSTRALIA
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Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:47:43 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!wjturner@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: License Time For 1a Element?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2nrv3j$r4v@jericho.mc.com> levine@mc.com writes:
>However since the changing of the 610 form which DOES differentiate
>(yay finally) between Technicians and Technician Plus, you
>will get Technician Plus licenses.
Has the FCC actually said this? I hadn't heard, and I thought the entire
reason for not printing a new license was that it would make too much
paperwork and slow everything down. However, I would be interested in knowing
for sure...(and not just some guesses because of the new 610)
--
Will Turner, N0RDV ---------------------------------------------
wjturner@iastate.edu | "Are you going to have any professionalism, |
twp77@isuvax.iastate.edu | or am I going to have to beat it into you?" |
TURNERW@vaxld.ameslab.gov ---------------------------------------------
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Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:42:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!mcduffie@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <$arlz05.1994@ampr.org>, <2nr3qv$t21@crcnis1.unl.edu>, <2nrojc$jg5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>i
Subject : Re: Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended
trier@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier) writes:
>The FCC document posted made fleeting reference to the difficulty of
>authenticating messages.
>A one-time post under a fake call is going to be extremely hard to
>trace. My job is in networking -- I've traced e-mail forgeries other
>our local net and the Internet. It is difficult. In amateur radio,
>the problem is worse because of the mobility of hams.
The implication is that if the originator cannot be tracked down, I
will get the blame for his message. That is neither fair, nor legal. I
don't believe it would stand up in court. A one time offense WOULD be
hard to trace...but then why try. If it happens more than once, it is
a problem. It's like the occasional slip of the tongue, or any other
one time offense. It happens. So what. That doesn't mean it is "okay".
It just means that it is one of those times that it happens and
nothing can be done about it. On the other hand, the repeat offender
is going to be easier to find and filter. Let's face it, ANYONE can
put someone else's call in his TNC and say whatever he wants. That
doesn't mean that SOMEONE ELSE should be made responsible for his
actions when no one knows who it is.
This is a bad rule. It should be beat to death! I think the ARRL has
once again let us down. As many before me have asked, where are they
when they are needed?
I just realized, this has a perfect parallel. If the person who shoots
someone bought his gun by using false information when filling out his
gun registration, should the dealer be held responsible? I think not.
Yes, some idiot relative, looking for revenge, will suit, but the
dealer didn't break any law by using what information he was presented
with to sell the gun. If a station presents me with his call, who am I
to question whether it is his or not, unless it is obvious?
The real question is, what is your purpose (not you personally, I know
you didn't agree either), to make SOMEONE pay for the offense, or to
FIND THE OFFENDER AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? The answer is
obvious, and blaming the sysop will not accomplish it.
73, Gary
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Date: 5 Apr 94 17:41:37 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!paulc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CnoCCu.s6@armory.com>, <2nn8qb$j4o@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, <n1gakCnr5uC.FFA@netcom.com>om
Subject : Re: Ham radios on planes - Definitive answer
Scott Statton (n1gak@netcom.com) wrote:
: ...
: Under no circumstances should you operate a cellular mobile
: telephone while aloft. The frequency reuse only works (and I use
: the vaguest sense of the word "work") when your car stays on the
: ground. Going up to 5,000 feet would cause your signal to swamp
: every cell-site in a major metropolitan area, and is expressly
: forbidden in the appropriate FCC regulations.
An interesting story I just happened across in the NASA ASRS (Aviation
Safety Reporting System) "CALLBACK" newsletter: The pilot of a
commercial airliner (not reported which or what kind) had all nav and
comm radios fail shortly after takeoff. He had the flight attendant ask
if any passenger had a cellular phone. After finding one, he called the
tower and coordinated his return that way. Probably would've timed out
a ham autopatch, though...
-Paul C.
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:57:50
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ccm.hf.intel.com!brett_miller@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <764973671snx@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl>, <brett_miller.89.000EBED5@ccm.hf.intel.com>, <2nhujs$7hg@news.tamu.edu>m
Subject : Re: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
In article <2nhujs$7hg@news.tamu.edu> furuta@cs.tamu.edu (Richard Furuta) writes:
>I find the hams-on-Usenet lists extremely *useful* and am glad they
>are posted here with regularity. The charter of rec.radio.info
>suggests that material posted to rec.radio.info should also be posted
>to another one of the rec.radio groups so limiting it to
>rec.radio.info would raise opposition. Whether or not this is a
>reasonable charter is the topic of a different discussion.
I think that is the main problem. Cross-posting such lengthy articles is just
a pure waste of bandwidth. IMO, r.r.i is the place it should be. Lets change
the rules.
I do not want Mark to feel his work is not appreciated, because this IS a very
valuable reference, but then so is the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and I wouldn't
want to see that posted here either. It would be nice if Mark's info were on
a Telnet database server, like a callsign server. That way you could do a
quick look-up of other hams email addresses by name or callsign.
Brett Miller N7OLQ brett_miller@ccm.hf.intel.com
Intel Corp.
American Fork, UT
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