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Info-Hams Digest            Sun,  3 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  372

Today's Topics:
                                  73
                    :Land mobile radio magazines?
           ALERT: MINOR GEOMAGNETIC STORM ALERT - 02 April
                Amateur Radio Newsline #868  1 Apr 94
   Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipmen<2if
                           Long directories
              Operation of Ham radios on planes (2 msgs)

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Date: 3 Apr 1994 11:21:37 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 73
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

George@golflima.demon.co.uk (Russell Lee) writes:

>Yes, I think you are quite correct. *73* should not have an *s* nor a
>*best* or *very*.  Whats all this nonsense with *KN* when *K* is
>all thats needed?   73


I always thought 73 is "best wishes."  In which case, "very 73" 
translates to "very best wishes."  I don't see what is so wrong with 
that last phrase, but I am only a furriner.

"KN"?  Heh, get on RTTY and you will see KK and KKK used!  Actually, 
RTTY is such a polite mode, you see "PSE K" all the time.  Even during 
a pileup :-).


Best best wishes'es,

Kok Chen, AA6TY    kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.

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Date: 3 Apr 94 22:10:55 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!not-for-mail@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: :Land mobile radio magazines?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Try Mobile Radio Technology
P.O. Box 12968
Overland Park, KS 66282-2968

--

73                            ||
Leon                          ||
NI2P                          ||
instrutk@panix.com            ||

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Date: 3 Apr 94 05:21:13 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: ALERT: MINOR GEOMAGNETIC STORM ALERT - 02 April
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

bid: $GMSA4093A
MINOR STORM ALRT - 02APR94
PACKET RADIO REPORT
SOLAR TERRESTRIAL DISPATCH
(PACKET: VE6MGS@VE6MC.#EDM.AB.CAN.NOAM)
(INTERNET: COLER@SOLAR.STANFORD.EDU)

ATTENTION:

        A recurrent coronal-hole related disturbance has resulted in a minor
        geomagnetic storm with major to severe periods of activity observed
        over some of the higher latitude regions.  Minor to major storming
        (with isolated severe episodes possible over the high latitudes) are
        expected to continue throughout the next several days.

    HIGH RISK PERIOD:  03 - 08 April (UT days)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD:  03 - 10 April

POTENTIAL LOW-MIDDLE LATITUDE STORM INTENSITY:  MAJOR
      POTENTIAL HIGH LATITUDE STORM INTENSITY:  MAJOR - SEVERE

      POTENTIAL DURATION OF GEOMAGNETIC STORM:  APPROX. 7 TO 10 DAYS

POTENTIAL PEAK LOW-MIDDLE LATITUDE K-INDEX VALUES:  6
      POTENTIAL PEAK HIGH LATITUDE K-INDEX VALUES:  7

  EXPECTED DOMINATING LOW-MIDDLE LATITUDE K-INDEX:  5 - 6
        EXPECTED DOMINATING HIGH LATITUDE K-INDEX:  6

   POTENTIAL FOR LOW LATITUDE HF DEGRADATION:  MODERATE
        POTENTIAL SEVERITY OF HF DEGRADATION:  MINOR
          EXPECTED HF PROPAGATION CONDITIONS:  GOOD - FAIR

POTENTIAL FOR MIDDLE LATITUDE HF DEGRADATION:  HIGH
        POTENTIAL SEVERITY OF HF DEGRADATION:  MINOR - MAJOR
          EXPECTED HF PROPAGATION CONDITIONS:  FAIR TO VERY POOR

  POTENTIAL FOR HIGH LATITUDE HF DEGRADATION:  VERY HIGH
        POTENTIAL SEVERITY OF HF DEGRADATION:  MAJOR
          EXPECTED HF PROPAGATION CONDITIONS:  POOR TO USELESS

POTENTIAL RISK FOR GEOSYNCHRONOUS MAGNETOPAUSE CROSSINGS:  35%

SUSPECTED SOURCE OF OBSERVED/EXPECTED ACTIVITY:
        A well-placed and proven geoeffective coronal hole.


---------------------------------       ---------------------------------
EST. POTENTIAL GEOMAGNETIC IMPACT       EST. POTENTIAL IONOSPHERIC IMPACT
---------------------------------       ---------------------------------
       SEVERE STORM : 25 %                 LOW LATITUDES : MINOR
        MAJOR STORM : 40 %              MIDDLE LATITUDES : MINOR - MAJOR
        MINOR STORM : 35 %                HIGH LATITUDES : MAJOR
     ACTIVE OR LESS : 00 %               POLAR LATITUDES : MAJOR
---------------------------------       ---------------------------------
 PROBABLE SI ASSOCIATION : NONE OBSRVD   ESTIMATED GLOBAL IMPACT: MAJOR

ESTIMATED FORECAST PEAK PLANETARY 24-HOUR A-INDEX DURING STORM: 50 TO 60


**  END OF PACKET ALERT (1/1)  **

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Date: 3 Apr 94 14:05:02 GMT
From: agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@@.
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #868  1 Apr 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

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with the permission of Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, President and Editor of
Newsline.  The text version is edited from the original scripts and
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                     The following is a QST

    A bizarre licensing scam in Texas leads to the forfeiture of
 ham tickets, two more hams are barred by a court order from
 operating on a Southern California repeater and a famous ham
 astronaut is off to work in Russia.  

 (*****
                         TEXAS VE SCAM

    The FCC is cancelling the amateur radio licenses of at least
 two people.  This, as the Commission expands its investigation
 into an elaborate scam involving bogus ham licenses.  The scheme
 involves a complicated web of name and address changes, callsign
 upgrades, an undercover examinee, and allegations that the names
 of deceased hams were used to obtain amateur radio licenses.  
    The scam was uncovered during a routine check of lists of
 people getting their ham licenses.  Investigators became
 suspicious when they saw a familiar name: Hector Cruz.  That's
 the name of a man linked to an early 1980's scheme when people
 tried to get licenses using the names of deceased hams.  Further
 investigation led to Luis A. Rivera, KP4UP, and Gleason Petit,
 AB5KT.  Both were listed as volunteer examiners in Texas. 
 Records show Rivera was an examiner at the session where Hector
 Cruz as licensed.  Luis Rivera was also involved in the earlier
 scam.  Examination sessions Rivera administered allegedly include
 widespread irregularities.  Rivera sessions reportedly list the
 names of out of state applicants as taking tests.  In fact, they
 never showed up.  An undercover examinee attended one session and
 found evidence of fraud.  
    The man claiming to be Gleason Petit has reportedly admitted
 that his real name is Anthony Hopkins.  The real Gleason Petit
 was an amateur operator who died in 1985.  Luis Rivera denies he
 is the same person named in the earlier scam.  But he and Hopkins
 were told to turn in their amateur licenses.  How many fraudulent
 licenses were issued under this scheme?  Information on that is
 not yet available.  
     This tangled web of apparent fraud and conspiracy remains
 under investigation.

 (*****
                     CLARA REPEATER HARASSMENT

    Two more southern California hams accused by the Claremont
 Amateur Repeater Association of harassing the clubs two meter
 repeater have been ordered by a civil court to stay away.  Only a
 month after successfully obtaining a restraining order against
 Tim Seawolf, KJ5KE, that bars his operation on or near
 frequencies maintained for use by the CLARA systems, the club was
 in court again on March 24th.  This time seeking a similar ruling
 against Drew Feldman, N3KSO, and Anthony Cardenes, WA6IGJ.  Gary
 Krist, KI6FG, is the president of the Claremont Repeater group.

    "We prevailed again in court against Mr. Anthony Cardenes,
 WA6IGJ, and Mr. Drew Feldman, N3KSO.  We did obtain our permanent
 restraining order.  The Defendants were once more ordered to keep
 away the typical hundred yards from the meeting sites, etc., etc. 
 Not to use the Claremont Repeater, nor its assigned frequencies. 
 Ultimately we were awarded attorneys costs and fees in the amount
 of $3000 to be paid by the defendants.  Each shall pay $30 a
 piece on the first and fifteenth of each month until their debt
 is paid off."  Gary Krist, KI6FG, President of the Claremont
 Repeater group.

    It's not over yet.  The Claremont group still has several
 other legal actions pending or planned.  This, to insure that
 those it deems to be undesirable are kept off the clubs repeaters
 and away from harassing its members.  
    At airtime its not known if Cardenes or Feldman plan to file
 an appeal.

 (*****
                         INDONESIA QUAKE

    Amateur radio was at the forefront of relief efforts when more
 than 120 people died in an earthquake in Indonesia in February.
 Press reports say that ham radio was the only communication
 initially available from the affected area.  The town of Liwa in
 the province of Lampung suffered the greatest damage and loss of
 life.  A government official told The Jakarta Post that ham radio
 was the only way to communicate with Liwa.

 (*****
                         KB5AWP TO RUSSIA

    SAREX Astronaut Ken Cameron, KB5AWP, is off to Russia.  Ken
 has been named Director of Operations - Russia and manager of
 NASA operational activities at the Russian control center at
 Kaliningrad.  There KB5AWP will work with Russian Space Agency
 engineers and flight controllers on the US - Russia cooperative
 space program.  Among his many duties Ken will supervise NASA
 astronaut training at Star City and develop plans and procedures
 to support joint space shuttle - Russian Mir space station
 flights and space station development.  He is also expected to
 command one of the early shuttle docking missions with Mir. 
 Cameron, 44, has flown on two SAREX shuttle missions, STS-37 
 in 1991 and STS-56 in 1993.  Both these were all-ham flights.

 (*****
                      RADIO SHACK IN RUSSIA

    Word that Tandy Corporation has opened its first Radio Shack
 store in Russia.  The Moscow store, which officially opened
 January 14th.  It is identical in look and layout to stores in
 the USA and is franchised to the Trident Group, a Florida based
 international distribution company.  Its being managed by Trident
 A O, a Russian company.

 (*****
                         ITAMSAT PROBLEM

    The Itamsat ham radio satellite has developed what may be a
 major problem.  Sometime during the week of March 7th, the PSK
 modulation on the primary transmitter became more and more
 difficult to decode.  According to Alberto Zagni, I2KBD, of the
 Itamsat command team, a residual carrier and lower output power
 seem to indicate a failure in the PSK balanced modulator.
 Alberto says that the condition seems worse at the satellites low
 current power setting.  He notes that increasing the power level
 makes the demodulation easier, but this solution is not
 acceptable due to power budget constraints.  
    Ground controllers decided to switch to the secondary PSK 
 transmitter on 435.822 MHz.  The first two passes over Italy
 confirmed the correct operation of the spacecraft.  Action is now
 being taken to analyze the performance of the satellite in this
 new configuration.  Alberto says that the on board flying BBS is
 working as usual and status bulletins will be uploaded regularly.

 (*****
       CALL FOR PAPERS - ARRL NATIONAL EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP

    A call for papers has been issued for the sixth Proceedings of
 the ARRL National Educational Workshop, with a deadline of April 
 29, 1994.  The workshop will be held June 10th at the ARRL
 National Convention in Arlington, TX.  For an author's guide,
 contact Tracy Bedlack, N1QDO, at the Educational Activities
 Department, ARRL Headquarters, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT
 06111.

 (*****
                       FCC ON THE INTERNET

    The FCC has announced that some of its information is now
 available on the Internet.  Postings including the FCC Daily
 Digest, news releases, some public notices, and the text of
 speeches by Commission officials.  The exact file names are
 listed in the FCC Daily Digest and FCC's Internet address is
 simply ftp.fcc.gov

 (*****
                    WEST COAST VHF CONVENTION

    The 1994 West Coast VHF/UHF Conference will take place the
 weekend of April 29 and 30 and May 1 at the Sheraton Cerritos
 Hotel Town Center in Cerritos, California.  The event will
 feature a swap meet, breakfast, banquet, technical talks, vendor
 exhibits, noise figure and antenna measurement tests, and more.
 For registration and information please write to the Southern
 California Six Meter Club, PO Box 10441, Fullerton, CA 92635.  A
 No-Code Technician Class license preparation course taught by
 Loraine McCarthy, N6CIO, with testing of students will take place
 following the class.  Pre-registration for the class is required.
 Yes, this is the same weekend as the 1994 Dayton Hamvention in
 Ohio.

 (*****
                 ARRL DX ADVISORY COMMITTEE ACTION

    In DX, the ARRL DX Advisory Committee has announced that the 
 question of new country status for Pratas Island, BV9, has been 
 removed from the DXAC agenda pending receipt of further
 information from the petitioner.  The committee says that on
 receipt of the requested information, the matter will be placed
 on the agenda, and a vote scheduled.  No vote had ever been held
 on the Partas Island DXCC country status petition.

 (*****
                         BLANCARD TRIBUTE

    A special tribute to a very special ham.  Each year, members
 of the Birmingham Amateur Radio Club in Alabama recognize a
 member for his or her contributions to ham radio.  BARC normally 
 presents its Citizenship Award during the Club's Hamfest, held in
 May.  But this year is different.  The 1994 Citizenship Award was
 presented two months early.  That is because the clubs recipient
 and the circumstances are special. 
    The callsign AA4LB is a familiar one to central Alabama
 amateur radio operators.  Frank Blanchard has contributed his
 time and talents to the ham community in many ways.  He has
 served in the clubs administration, on its hamfest board of
 governors, he chaired field day, and Frank played a key roll in
 setting up the volunteer examiner coordinator program.  Fellow
 club members say no one deserves this years Citizenship Award
 more than Frank Blanchard.  
    On a cool spring like evening club members made a surprise
 visit to the seventh floor of a Birmingham hospital.  That is
 where Blanchard fights a life threatening illness.

    "It was a very emotional scene because you know he's.  At
 this stage of the game he is very emotional.  It was very heart
 warming.  That is about all I can say."  Genoa Blanchard, wife of
 Frank Blanchard, AA4LB, BARC Citizenship Award winner for 1994.  

    It is hard for Franks wife, Genoa to talk about.  She and her
 husband of 34 years share a lifetime of memories.  Ham radio has
 been a big part of it.  Taking part in county hunting nets is one
 of Franks favorite ham activities.

    "We sat on many a county line with me looking out the window
 and him (Frank) talking.  You know it was something that he
 enjoyed and he just lived and breathed ham radio.  You can come
 down to our house and look in his ham shack and know that.  He
 has got practically every piece of equipment that was ever made." 
 Genoa Blanchard.

    Presenting Frank with his award was a tearful experience.

    "He was very pleased and honored and surprised to get this
 award.  He was just, you know, very grateful, very emotional." 
 Genoa Blanchard.

    Frank is known for always thinking ahead.  He has already
 directed family members to make final arrangements and other
 difficult decisions.  Fifty six year old Frank Blanchard knows
 that the future holds no promises.  But he is sure of one thing. 
 However much time is left, his life has been made richer thanks
 to the loving fraternity that is Amateur Radio. 

 (*****

    For this week, that's all from the Amateur Radio Newsline. 
 You can write to us at Post Office Box 463, Pasadena, CA 91102.

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Date: 3 Apr 94 21:39:02 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!hp81.prod.aol.net!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipmen<2if
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <2iftmr$sft@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, ...green spleen...
<trd54583@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

Sure, and just how do you propose it be policed? Uncle Charlie? Anyone 
tuning in to repeaters in the DC area will discover that hams who should 
be in another hobby are all over the place. Illegals flock to 10 meters like 
bees to honey. Live with it -- you're going to have to because nothing will 
ever change. Alas!!! de John, KA3DBN

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Date: 4 Apr 1994 03:57:12 GMT
From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Long directories
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Most of those larger boilerplate postings are also cross-posted to
rec.radio.info, so perhaps you could convince your news software
to not give you anything that's cross-posted to both groups.
 - Brian

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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 13:54:12 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo!julian@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Operation of Ham radios on planes
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <CnoCCu.s6@armory.com> dev@armory.com (Uncle Dave) writes:
>i know this subject comes up every so often, and if it's in the
>faq, then i didn't look carefully enough, but what's the deal on
>operation of ham radios on a plane?

 This is the earliest "Walkie-talkies on planes" posting I have
ever seen. Usually they start with the summer holiday season. 

 Now this damn thread will refuse to die. The net.cops from the
aviation stuff will chip in. We will be told that if you turn on your
radio hundreds will die a terrible death.

 I of course have operated my walkiie-talkie from commercial
aircraft. I have done this since 1974. I have even operated my 2M
walki-talkie from the flight deck. I am still here, isn't that
amazing.

 I even have a friend who was a ham (SM7???) and a commercial
pilot (SAS/Sterling) who even used his HF QRP rig to send Morris from
the flight deck on transatlantic flights.

 But despite my anecdotal evidence. I will be drowned out by
people telling imagined horror stories of avionics malfunctioning
because someone generated an unwanted Watt of RF. The anecdotes of
real malfunctions will be pretty thin on the ground though.



-- 
Julian Macassey, N6ARE  julian@bongo.tele.com Voice: (414) 457-0874
Paper Mail: 210 Bleyer Drive, Sheboygan, Wisconsin 53081

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Date: 3 Apr 1994 20:26:51 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!msuinfo!cravitma@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Operation of Ham radios on planes
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

On Sun, 3 Apr 1994 08:17:17 GMT, strange alien beings caused Uncle Dave (dev@armory.com) to write:
> i know this subject comes up every so often, and if it's in teh
> faq, then i didn't look carefully enough, but what's the deal on
> operation of ham radios on a plane?

> last time i saw this subject mentioned i believe the ruling was
> that the FCC said it was up to the FAA, and the FAA said that
> it was legal if the pilot of the plane said it was okay. i have 

It is OK if the "Pilot in Command" says so. This appears to be
different from the pilot in some cases, but I don't know why. Will ask
a friend of mine who is a pilot next time I see him.
>
> now, of course i'm not silly enough to try to operate my HT on
> a commercial plane, since the chance of being able to talk to
> the pilot is about nil, and they'd probably say no anyways,
> but as far as i can tell, if it's a private pilot, and they
> don't think it will interfere with the avionics (easy enough
> to test on the ground, or briefly in the air, it's cool to
> use yer radio if you want.

There is an additional requirement that if the plane is flying under
IFR flight rules, it must be above 10,000 feet.

> anyone know where the official rules on this might be found?
> the FCC rule book? the FAA's version of a rule book? i'd just
> like to be able to point to some "official" document that says
> yea, nay, or depends.

The name of the FAA rules is the "Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs)."
I don't know where to get a copy though.

/MC

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Michigan State University           | my own. I don't speak for MSU
E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.ed         | and they don't speak for me.
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 19:43:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wa2ise@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CnEFCs.Hso@demon.co.uk>, <2n8crrINN451@life.ai.mit.edu>, <2n8llk$p79@access3.digex.net>
Subject : Re: HELP: Anyone know what a XR2206 chip is?

>In article <2n8crrINN451@life.ai.mit.edu>,
>Christopher Barnhart <ceb@synergy.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>This device is a Monolithic Function Generator made by EXAR.
>>Don't know where do get them anymore.  I think EXAR died 

EXAR still exists, a friend of mine works there in Silicon Valley.  Talked
with him a few days ago, so as of a few days ago, EXAR is alive.
Don't know if they own themselves, or someone else does....
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