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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 31 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  356

Today's Topics:
                2N2222 vs 2N2222A (was HAMS and hams)
                          Anyone out there?
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 29 March
                        FT-530 RX Performance
               HELP: Anyone know what a XR2206 chip is?
                            ICOM 725 Mods
                        Obscenity on ham bands
                         ORBS$091.MISC.AMSAT
                Rec.Radio.Amateur.Antennas activity??
                             Relm WHS-150
                 STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
                    TELEPHONE INTERFERENCE SURVEY
                          The FCC Rule Book
                   THE problem with THE hams HERE.
                Which HF rigs have Transverter Jacks?

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 18:47:23 -0500
From: dale.ksc.nasa.gov!algol.ksc.nasa.gov!k4dii.ksc.nasa.gov!user@ames.arpa
Subject: 2N2222 vs 2N2222A (was HAMS and hams)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <9402257646.AA764631129@smtpgty.anatcp.rockwell.com>,
William_A._Kirsanoff@smtpgty.anatcp.rockwell.COM (William A. Kirsanoff)
wrote:
> I say (now on the real subject): The "A" devices have a different gain 
> characteristic, (hFE @ 10v 10ma 50-325 for the 2222, 75-325 for the "A")

Wm. A.-

Your numbers didn't look right to me, so I checked an old Motorola data
book.  I think your data for hFE (DC gain) is actually correct for hfe (ac
gain).

Either way, they're a good transistor!

73, Fred, K4DII

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 23:00:00 +0000
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!mole.demon.co.uk!richard@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Anyone out there?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hi!

Is there anyone on this group, or are you all too busy doing packet to
bother with terresrial comms?

I want to get going with packet, so I'd like to do some discussion with
others who've done the thing!

Cheers,

Richard Smith
Hardware & Systems Executive -  NorthEast Macintosh User Group - UK
                                Administration: (+44) 0287 638935
Sysop - NEMUG BBS (+44) 0729 824092 weekdays 18:00-24:00GMT; weekends 24Hrs

* My opinions are not necessarily the opinions or policy of the NorthEast
Macintosh User Group. I cannot be held responsible for accident, injury or
loss occurring as a result of anything I write.

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:24:59 MST
From: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 29 March
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                 29 MARCH, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 29 MARCH, 1994
---------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: The very intense stratospheric warming covers the polar region at
      10 HPA.  Temperature gradient is reversed between 60N and the pole
      in the middle and upper stratosphere from 30 HPA upwards.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 088, 03/29/94
10.7 FLUX=086.1  90-AVG=103        SSN=023      BKI=2122 2222  BAI=006
BGND-XRAY=A5.5     FLU1=9.0E+05  FLU10=1.3E+04  PKI=2122 2122  PAI=006
  BOU-DEV=010,008,010,010,010,012,012,010   DEV-AVG=010 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B6.1   @ 1551UT    XRAY-MIN= A5.0   @ 1045UT   XRAY-AVG= A9.0
NEUTN-MAX= +001%  @ 2235UT   NEUTN-MIN= -003%  @ 1555UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.2%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2320UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 2300UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55345NT @ 0002UT   BOUTF-MIN=55317NT @ 1912UT  BOUTF-AVG=55336NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+080,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+133NT@ 1912UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-078NT@ 0658UT  G6-AVG=+099,+021,-038
 FLUXFCST=STD:085,085,085;SESC:085,085,085 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,010/010,010,010
    KFCST=2104 5011 2104 5011  27DAY-AP=012,027   27DAY-KP=3123 3234 3456 4122
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 28 MAR 94 was  42.5.
      The Full Kp Indices for 28 MAR 94 are: 1- 3o 3o 2-   3o 3o 2- 2o 
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 28 MAR 94 are:   3  15  15   7  15  15   7   8 
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 29 MAR is: 2.5E+07


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was very low. Newly numbered, spotless
       Region 7697 (N10E10) produced the largest flare of the past
       day, a B6/SF at 29/1550Z. Region 7695 (S16W08) also produced a
       few small flares. It remains a small sunspot group.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       very low.

            The geomagnetic field was quiet. The expected recurrent
       disturbance did not materialize.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be quiet to unsettled.

            Event probabilities 30 mar-01 apr

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 30 mar-01 apr

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                15/15/15
                        Minor Storm           10/10/10
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/05

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                15/15/15
                        Minor Storm           10/10/10
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/05

            HF propagation conditions continued normal over all
       regions.  Normal propagation is expected to persist over the
       next 24 to 72 hours at least.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 29/2400Z MARCH
--------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7695  S16W08  056  0060 DAO  08  013 BETA
7694  N11W24  072                    PLAGE
7696  S15W50  098                    PLAGE
7697  N10E10  038                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 30 MARCH TO 01 APRIL
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 29 MARCH, 1994
----------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NONE


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 29 MARCH, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 29/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
71   S20W54 S24W59 S16W69 S14W64  099  ISO   POS   002 10830A
72   N21W27 N05W40 N08W46 N23W31  074  ISO   POS   003 10830A
73   S45E50 S55E31 S35E01 S20E06  013  ISO   NEG   026 10830A


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
28 Mar: 0234  0239  0244  B1.7                                         
        0932  0937  0941  B6.2  SF  7695  S17E13                       
        1708  1728  1742  B3.9  SF        S15E25                       
        1815  1828  1847  B3.4  SF        N09E23                       
        2318  2326  2335  B2.6                                         


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
  Region 7695:  0   0   0     1   0   0   0   0    001  (20.0)
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     2   0   0   0   0    004  (80.0)

 Total Events: 005 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 00:22:18 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab718@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FT-530 RX Performance
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, peterl@hood.uucp (Peter Lee) says:

> =>The RX VCO does lock from 110-180 MHz, 300-500 MHz and 800-950 MHz.
> =>TX VCO unlocks above ~463 MHz and is inop in 800+.  Your
> =>mileage may vary.  Someone once did post how to RX from about 770 to
> =>800 (who wants this?)
>
>Well, I have the mod, however, exactly which soldier pad is it?  It's hard
>to tell because the pads aren't all numbered, and are really close.
>

Do you, or anyone reading this, where I can get a DC connector for the HT?

Thanks
Daniel
VE3DCL

-- 

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Date: 31 Mar 1994 04:28:36 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato!canterbury.ac.nz!southpower.co.nz!ccc.govt.nz!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP: Anyone know what a XR2206 chip is?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

zawada@softage.demon.co.uk (A Gnome On A Mission)

The XR2206 is a function generator.  I've seen examples of it giving
sinewaves, sawtooths and square waves. I think there are a few places you
can get them.  I'm not sure if they've been deleted or not because I've
seen them in some pretty old schematics.  I live in New Zealand but I
can't suggest any American outlets, except maybe try Paia or Digikey (ie:
the biggies).  I know you can get them from "Farnell Electronics",
Private Bag, Market Rd, Auckland, New Zealand, or in Australia there are
several companies that could probably help, like Dick Smith Electronics
or Rod Irving Electronics (sorry don't have a contact number for them).

Good luck in your search

Dean

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Date: 1 Apr 94 02:13:02 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ICOM 725 Mods
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Text item: Text_1

I FTPed a mods ZIP file and the IC-725 mods has a step missing. Can
anyone fill in step 5?

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Date: 30 Mar 1994 20:48:31 -0500
From: news1.digex.net!access1!bote@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Obscenity on ham bands
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

jayk@fc.hp.com (Jay Kesterson K0GU) writes:
>Dan Hughes (dhughes@prairienet.org) wrote:
>: ham chatter on my SW receiver.  Saturday night on 3910 kHz I heard some 
>: of the most disgusting language I've encountered anywhere.  One guy was 

>Is that the only contact you listened too?? It doesn't take much SWLing
>to notice that isn't the normal contact on the ham bands.

True.

Also, if you don't like what you are hearing, keep
on spinning that tuning dial. You will find someone
to talk to.

-- 

rec.nude: your exit to good living along the Information Toll Road.
finger bote@access.digex.net for PGP key and an operator will help you.
Only 4 days until Opening Day!  How 'bout them Os!!

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Date: 1 Apr 94 03:51:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$091.MISC.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-091.M
Orbital Elements  091.MISC

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX April 1, 1994
BID: $ORBS-091.M
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: POSAT
Catalog number: 22829
Epoch time:      94089.68812903
Element set:     267
Inclination:       98.6555 deg
RA of node:       166.3095 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0011064
Arg of perigee:    65.4928 deg
Mean anomaly:     294.7409 deg
Mean motion:   14.28014942 rev/day
Decay rate:        6.6e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            2649
Checksum:              332

Satellite: MIR
Catalog number: 16609
Epoch time:      94090.25081547
Element set:     549
Inclination:       51.6462 deg
RA of node:       216.9197 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0015558
Arg of perigee:    91.3363 deg
Mean anomaly:     268.9434 deg
Mean motion:   15.58441517 rev/day
Decay rate:      8.348e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           49380
Checksum:              334

Satellite: HUBBLE
Catalog number: 20580
Epoch time:      94089.87951733
Element set:     462
Inclination:       28.4691 deg
RA of node:        18.9736 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0006088
Arg of perigee:   352.0216 deg
Mean anomaly:       8.0277 deg
Mean motion:   14.90551165 rev/day
Decay rate:      1.063e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            1769
Checksum:              307

Satellite: GRO
Catalog number: 21225
Epoch time:      94087.37564364
Element set:      77
Inclination:       28.4619 deg
RA of node:        72.9760 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0003357
Arg of perigee:    25.2579 deg
Mean anomaly:     334.8185 deg
Mean motion:   15.40487736 rev/day
Decay rate:      4.639e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            4446
Checksum:              326

Satellite: UARS
Catalog number: 21701
Epoch time:      94088.55112080
Element set:     498
Inclination:       56.9828 deg
RA of node:       118.1810 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004332
Arg of perigee:    96.2144 deg
Mean anomaly:     263.9383 deg
Mean motion:   14.96463997 rev/day
Decay rate:     -2.513e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13901
Checksum:              305

/EX

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Date: 31 Mar 1994 12:50:12 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!ctp.org!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Rec.Radio.Amateur.Antennas activity??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

00tlzivney@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
> I have posted two items to a newsgroup, rec.radio.amateur.antennas,
> but have never ever seen any other activity on that newsgroup.  I have
> been checking for two weeks.  Does anyone out there ever look in on
> that newsgroup??????

Perhaps your newsfeed source isn't quite picking up 
rec.radio.amateur.antenna (singular).  My preferred news server is like 
that (gets everything else A-OK except for the rec.radio.* 
newsgroups...so I gotta use my other Internet account to play ham radio 
Internet style)

--
Gary T. Lau
Internet: garlau@eis.calstate.edu  or  glau@ccmail.com
Amateur : N6MMM @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.USA.NOAM
--I don't know if the California State University or Lotus Development 
Corp. wants me to speak for them!

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Date: 31 Mar 94 18:07:16 GMT
From: mozz.unh.edu!christa.unh.edu!ckf@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Relm WHS-150
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

WANTED: Information on the new Relm Communications WHS-150 two way 
portable. I have the original literature, but I would rather hear more of 
a consumer point of view. Performance? Durability? Any information would 
be greatly appreciated. ckf@chrita.unh.edu   
                           Thanks!
                              Chris Fowler
                              Leader: Team 3
                              University of NH Search and Rescue

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:41:32
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!ddsw1!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ccm.hf.intel.com!brett_miller@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1994Mar30.214549.1792@unet.net.com> larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson) writes:

>  Why do you download it each time?

Many net users do not have real on-line access, they have to download the 
messages to read them.  Some my have online access, but would have HUGE phone 
bills if they sat and read through the messages.  I know, cuz I've been there. 
 It's great to have a direct Internet connection.


Brett Miller N7OLQ                  brett_miller@ccm.hf.intel.com
Intel Corp.
American Fork, UT

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:53:09 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!cnn.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!eua.ericsson.se!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: TELEPHONE INTERFERENCE SURVEY
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

David Tiller (dtiller@cscsun.rmc.edu) wrote:

: FCC survey deleted

: Assuming the 5-12 watt CB entries were sideband (ie legal), was anything
: done to the illegal CB operators?  As a side note, none of the Amateur
: stations were over the 1500W limit, although there's no way to prove
: they were within the other constraints of their license. 

:-). I had thought of that myself. Unfortunately, the survey
report didn't say. But I bet the CBers were sure sweating bullets
or dropping bricks over it for a bit.

Ed
-- 
Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory, 225 Main, Newington, CT 06111 
203-666-1541 ehare@arrl.org 
My electronic posts and email do not necessarily represent the policy 
of the ARRL, but I can probably get in trouble for them anyway!

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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 03:52:59 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!usenet-feed.umr.edu!rholobau@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: The FCC Rule Book
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

THanks to all the e-mailed me....Randy Holobaugh


***************************************************************************
**  Randall W. Holobaugh  **  But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, **
**  rholobau@cs.umr.edu   **  With men this is impossible, but with God  **
**       University of    **  all things are possible.                   **
**       Missouri-Rolla   **                     Matthew 20:26           ** 
***************************************************************************

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Date: 1 Apr 94 02:06:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: THE problem with THE hams HERE.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

      Frequently I hear hams say, THE name HERE is______.
How often do you say when you meet someone (assuming your name
is Tony), THE name HERE is Tony? You never do that right? After
to do so is so impersonal and assinine that you would not want
to seem like a fool-then why do it on the air? Just because you
are a ham is no excuse not to be personal. Of course you could
really sound like THE jerk of the year by saying, THE first
personal here is Tony (at least if you are not personal-you are
using the word-albeit it in an extremely impersonal way).
Also why say "here", is your name any different when you are "there?"
 
73 from we here (not there) at K1OIK where THE name are Burt.


                 Burt Fisher South Dennis (Cape Cod), Mass.
                Teacher of, Video, Broadcasting, Electronics
                  Cape Cod Regional Vocational High School               
                      (Home of WCCT-FM 9O.3 MHZ) 
 
                         FISHERB@A1.mec.mass.edu
                         Amateur Radio Call K1OIK

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Date: 1 Apr 94 02:11:16 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa813@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Which HF rigs have Transverter Jacks?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a previous article, galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts) says:

>Subject line says most of it.  I know the Kenwood TS-820 has 'em and I've
>heard the TS-430 has 'em, but I'm not sure.  I'm mostly interested in
>synthesized rigs, but any info is greatly appreciated!!!
>Galen, KF0YJ
>
Yes Virginia,

There is a Transverter Jack on the TS-430.  It is an 8-pin DIN connector
used to interface a VHF or UHF transverter.  (I am quoting the manual.  I
never used it....)

73,
Joe N8IPC

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
 4) Unplug the 2 plugs from J11 & J12.

 5) D

 6) Disconnect the large black connector on the left side of radio.

P.S.  If you have any good modifications for any radios, please pass them
      along to me.  I am starting a database of modifications for various
      radios and I'm happy to pass along info to anyone who needs it.
      Joe Musto - N1FCJ>>

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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:48:47
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ccm.hf.intel.com!brett_miller@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <810@comix.UUCP>, <brett_miller.84.0013359E@ccm.hf.intel.com>, <811@comix.UUCP>l.
Subject : Re: Question on Kenwood 732 A

In article <811@comix.UUCP> jeffl@comix.UUCP (Jeff Liebermann) writes:

>>Sure the radio isn't perfect, but as you said, they all seem to have their 
>>problems.  If you want Motorola, you have to PAY for Motorola.
>I see.  If I want quality, I should buy Motorola.  However,
>because I'm a ham on a limited budget, I should tolerate design
>flaws, mechanical abomonations, human factors atroscities, and
>durability problems.  It's funny, but when designing commercial
>radios, I had the same dumb line thrown at me by the
>military-aerospace crowd.  I guess hams are suppose to take
>any and all abuse because we're so tolerant.

I guess you could say we are at the bottom of the radio food chain.


Brett Miller N7OLQ                  brett_miller@ccm.hf.intel.com
Intel Corp.
American Fork, UT

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Date: 30 Mar 1994 18:51:44 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!tintin.cc.columbia.edu!fuat@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CnFn7H.L2t@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, <tgmCnG945.69o@netcom.com>, <2nai88$3c6@lester.appstate.edu>du
Subject : Re: HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license

In article <2nai88$3c6@lester.appstate.edu>,
Marvin Hoffman <HOFFMANMK@CONRAD> wrote:
>Chill out guys and gals.....it may not be a perfect world but the people
>in our club who tested around December 27 got their licenses about ten
>days ago.
>
>I know it frustrating to wait but everyone seems to have to do it.  Some
>time back there were postings in this group or rec.radio.amateur.misc
>that the FCC in Gettysburg only issues ham licenses one day per week and
>that there are delays at the VEC and at the FCC.

Yeah, chill out.  So what if it takes less time to get a driver
license, handgun permit, etc.  We don't want the FCC to be too hasty
here assigning these callsigns.

     --Fuat (9.5 weeks and counting)

P.S.  :-)


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