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Info-Hams Digest Wed, 30 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 348
Today's Topics:
ARRL Letter 24 March 1994
But Seriously (was Re: New Award Announcement
CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license (2 msgs)
Obscenity on ham bands
QRZ Question...
silent 700 pinouts?
STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:16:36 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL Letter 24 March 1994
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The ARRL Letter Vol. 13, No. 6 March 24, 1994
FCC surveys telephone interference, says manufacturers could do better
The FCC has released the results of a telephone interference survey
and concluded that since some telephones are "bulletproof," all of them
could be.
Thirty-five FCC field offices each picked three random cases of
telephone interference on record and then visited the scene. The
transmitting stations included 47 citizens band, 27 amateur, 23 AM
broadcast, 10 FM broadcast, and one international broadcast station (none
were specifically identified).
At the location experiencing interference, the FCC's Field
Operations Bureau personnel first tested the telephones on site, then
tested their own "bulletproof" telephones, as well as several
commercially available filters. Altogether, 241 different telephones were
tested.
Among the FCC's conclusions was that transmitter power did not seem
to be a significant factor; they said that 10 watts or less caused
telephone interference in one-third of the cases.
The FCC also said that filters worked only one-third of the time.
"Manufacturers can design telephones to be interference free," the
Commission said, citing its bulletproof telephones, which were immune
from interference "virtually all of the time."
The FCC said that it hopes the survey will encourage affected
parties "to productively address and resolve this problem."
The FCC said it receives 25,000 complaints per year from people who
are "unable to use their telephones" because nearby radio stations
interfere with them. "Whenever the radio stations are on the air, the
telephones pick up their transmissions, which then override any ongoing
telephone conversation," the FCC said.
The survey's goals
The survey's goals were to pinpoint the following:
* What telephones are affected,
* What type transmitting stations are involved (including power levels),
* Whether commonly available filters are effective in eliminating
interference,
* Whether specially designed telephones are effective in eliminating
interference.
The report emphasized that because the survey was based on what the
FCC called a random sample, "it cannot be claimed that identical results
would be derived under scientific surveying and testing, nor should the
results be construed as FCC endorsement or criticism of any particular
manufacturer's product."
At the transmitting station, FOB staff logged the type of station
(ie, amateur, citizens band, broadcast, etc.), measured its power, and
got information on antenna height, antenna gain, and distance from the
complainant.
At the complainant's location, the FOB disconnected all telephones,
then plugged them, one at a time, into a single jack, while the station
was transmitting.
Also tested were the effectiveness of several commercially available
telephone filters.
Finally, the FOB connected "bulletproof" telephones to the telephone
jacks and listened for interference.
The power levels of the transmitting stations varied from 2 watts to
half a million watts, one-third of them running less than 10 watts.
Of the 241 telephones tested, 68% received interference. The rest
did not.
In tests of the AT&T Z100B1 filter on 138 telephones receiving
interference, 62% of the telephones continued to receive interference. A
number of other filters were tested, on 82 telephones receiving
interference. As a group, these filters eliminated interference on 29% of
the telephones, the FCC said.
The FCC tested its "bulletproof" telephones at 52 locations and
found them 96% effective.
Conclusions
The FCC said the transmitting stations most likely to cause
telephone interference are citizens band, amateur, and broadcast
stations. Citizens band stations accounted for half the telephone
interference cases, while amateur and broadcast stations caused the other
half.
The power levels used by the transmitting stations did not appear to
be a significant factor in causing telephone interference, the FCC
concluded, based on power levels of 10 watts or less causing a third of
the interference.
"Although some telephones did not receive interference, the limited
nature of [this survey] would not support the conclusion that [those
particular models] would always reject interference," the FCC said.
On the other hand, models that were observed to be susceptible to
interference by the FCC can be presumed to be susceptible in other
installations.
The FCC said that telephone interference filters "cannot be relied
upon to eliminate telephone interference," since, in two out of three
cases in this survey, they didn't work.
"Manufacturers can design telephones to be interference free," the
FCC said. "'Bulletproof' telephones were immune from interference
virtually all of the time.
"Notwithstanding the 25,000 reports of telephone interference the
FCC has received to date," the FCC said, "it is FOB's experience that, as
large as this number is, it probably represents only a fraction of the
actual instances in which this interference occurs.
"Given the enormous numbers of instances in which this type of
interference is experienced by consumers, it is our hope that this
survey, notwithstanding its informality, will serve as a catalyst for
affected parties to productively address and resolve this problem. As
always, FOB remains ready to assist in that effort."
If you would like a copy of the survey, which includes a list
of telephone models checked, send an SASE with two units of first class
postage to the Technical Information Service at ARRL HQ.
HamVention names award winners
For the fourth time in the past five years, an ARRL dignitary has
been named the Dayton HamVention Amateur of the Year.
Chosen this year was Perry Williams, W1UED, who retires at the end
of April as ARRL Washington Area Coordinator, after 40 years of League
service.
Perry joined the Headquarters staff in 1954, and in 1975 took the
reins of a new department, Membership Services. In 1980 he became
Washington Area Coordinator.
Perry is featured in a story about the League's Washington office in
April QST.
Receiving the Technical Achievement Award is Dick Newell, AK1A, of
Bolton, Massachusetts, the inventor of PacketCluster. Newell, 43, began
experimenting with what he called a "packet conference board system" in
1986, and sold his first PacketCluster software in 1988.
Today, more than 600 PacketClusters are operating, in 34 countries.
Version 6 is in the works for a planned introduction at the HamVention.
In December 1990 Newell left his job to devote full time to
PacketCluster, for 18 months working on the Amateur Radio version. Today,
he is a part of Harvard Radio, and a commercial version, called
PacketCluster Systems, is being marketed to public safety agencies.
"In the beginning," Newell said, "I thought if I could sell five
PacketClusters, I could buy that Alpha amplifier I'd always wanted. Now
it's estimated that 40,000 to 45,000 amateurs regularly use a PacketCluster.
"This has certainly kept me off the streets the past eight years,"
Newell said.
A QST story about Dick Newell appeared in August 1990 QST, page 54.
The DARA Special Achievement Award goes to Russ Kroeker, N7HGE, of
Kent, Washington, whom the DARA credits with "conceiving, planning,
implementing, and operating" the Evergreen Intertie, a system of
interlinked repeaters stretching from Oregon to British Columbia and east
over the Rocky Mountains.
Kroeker, 53, has been with the Boeing Co. for 20 years and currently
is a manager for electronic product development. He was first licensed in
1986, when the Evergreen Intertie was born. "It was the brainchild of
Richard Fryer, VE7OG," Kroeker says, "beginning with a single link
between two repeater systems across the border."
Kroeker at the time was chairman of the repeater committee of the
Boeing Employees Amateur Radio Society (BEARS), and became involved in
designing a link controller to expand and improve the system. "Boeing has
supported the project over the years," Kroeker said.
Before joining Boeing, Kroeker worked in Malawi (then called
Nyasaland), designing VHF links between broadcast stations and building
radio studios. He was first there while a student at Rutgers University,
in 1962, as part of Operation Crossroads Africa.
Kroeker's current involvement in the mature Evergreen Intertie is as
a consultant, "helping out when there are political or technical problems
such as siting of repeaters."
A description of the Evergreen Intertie was in June 1991 QST, page 83.
Previous Dayton Hams of the Year include former ARRL President Harry
Dannals, W2HD (1993); International Amateur Radio Union President and
former ARRL General Manager Dick Baldwin, W1RU (1992); and ARRL Hudson
Division Director Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF (1990).
The awards will be presented at the Dayton HamVention, April 29 to
May 1, 1994.
FCC's PRIVATE RADIO CHIEF NAMED TO PCS TASK FORCE
FCC Private Radio Bureau Chief Ralph Haller has been named to head a
Commission task force on personal communication services (PCS).
The Commission said that the task force would provide "a focal point
for all of the PCS issues currently before" it. The task force would
work with all of the FCC's bureaus and offices that are involved in PCS
issues, and would be responsible "for assuring consistency between
policies and rules for narrow-band and wide-band PCS."
FCC Chairman Reed Hundt said that "I am confident that under the
leadership of Ralph Haller, the PCS task force will lead the Commission
in the timely development of a comprehensive regulatory framework for PCS."
Other members of the task force include Tom Stanley, Chief Engineer;
Robert Pepper, Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; Donald Gips, Deputy
Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; and Michael Katz, Chief Economist.
ARRL VOLUNTEERS HELP HEAD OFF NY PLATE FEES
New York state amateurs will soon be able to obtain distinctive call
sign plates, according to ARRL Public Information Coordinator Stephan
Anderman, WA3RKB. The original bill in the New York State Assembly was
flawed, in that it would have included a $15 annual surcharge. When ARRL
Government Liaison Phil Bradway, KB2HQ, learned of the problem with the
bill, he contacted the Tryon Amateur Radio Club, of Gloversville, who had
been behind the design of the new plates.
The NY Department of Motor Vehicles was alerted to the problem and
the bill was withdrawn, removing the threat of increased cost to
amateurs. The new plates will carry the same $5 annual surcharge as the
old; an initial fee of $18.00 will pay for the plate, Anderman said.
BRIEFS
* The ARRL has begun mailing FCC amateur license expiration notices
to its members. The notices, including an envelope addressed to the FCC's
processing facility in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, are sent 90 days before
the license expiration date and are generated from the FCC database.
Addresses are cross-checked with the ARRL membership database and the QST
mailing address is used if it is different from the address in the FCC
database.
* Closing date for nominations for the Westlink Report Young Ham of
the Year award is April 30, 1994. Amateurs aged 18 or younger are
eligible, with emphasis on those with unusual qualifications such as
participation in emergency communication operations, assisting with
licensing classes, and so on, according to Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF.
The award is underwritten by Yaesu USA. The winner will be notified
in early May and will receive a trip to the Sea Pac convention in
Seaside, Oregon, on June 4 and 5, to receive the award. Official
applications for nomination are available from Westlink, 28197 Robin
Avenue, Saugus, California 91350.
* Here are the FCC's amateur licensing figures as of the end of 1993:
Extra 65,277
Advanced 112,637
General 126,898
Technician 227,681
Novice 99,105
Total 631,598
The ranks of Extras grew by 6.5% during the year, Advanced by 2.5%,
General by 1.4%, Technician by 18.5%, and Novice licensees were
essentially unchanged.
* Congratulations to ARRL HQ administrative assistant Lisa DeLude
(and husband Peter) on the birth of their first child, Nicole Emily, who
arrived March 11.
* Amateur Radio bulletin services will be the topic of a gathering
at this year's Dayton HamVention. The session, called "Ham news and ham
views from around the world," is scheduled to include Bill Pasternak,
WA6ITF, of Newsline; Hap Holly, KC9RP, of the Radio Amateur Information
Network (RAIN); former Radio Society of Great Britain president Peter
Chadwick, G3RZP; radio host Len Winkler, KB7LPW; George Bowen, N2LQS, of
the satellite-delivered show "This Week in Amateur Radio," and others.
The forum will run from 2:45 PM to 5 PM on Saturday, April 30, in
HamVention Meeting Room 2. For more information, contact Pasternak at
708-635-6351 or RAIN at 805-296-7180.
* "Shortwave listening is the ultimate form of QRP," the saying
goes. ARRL Assistant Technical Editor Jim Kearman, KR1S, attended the
Seventh Annual SWL Winterfest near Philadelphia on March 11 and 12 and
found a number of licensed amateurs among the 200 or so listeners there.
Those speaking at forums included Shel Dunham, W4OEL; Skip Arey, WB2GHA;
Joe Buch, N2JB; Etgon Byington, N2KXT; Harold Hausenfluck, WB4JSP; and
Alan Johnson, N4LUS.
Information on next year's Winterfest is available from Kris Field,
705 Gregory Drive, Horsham PA
--
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Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
marcbg@esy.com Computer & Information Security
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Date: 30 Mar 94 22:39:11 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!msuinfo!cravitma@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: But Seriously (was Re: New Award Announcement
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
On Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:18:46 GMT, strange alien beings caused Ed Hare (KA1CV) (ehare@arrl.org) to write:
> : 1) RCC Rag Chewers Club
> Well, although I applaud the encouragement of real contacts with real
> conversations, this just seems too easy on VHF simplex or through
> a repeater. Keep it around, but we need something more challenging.
What about the ARRL friendship award or something similar? Ed or
someone can fill in the details which I don't recall off the top of my
head, but I think it involved contacting 26 hams whose suffixes each
started with a different letter and exchanging RST, QTH and "one other
interesting piece of information." Something like that, anyway.
> 73 from ARRL HQ, Ed
73,
/Matthew
--
Matthew Cravit, N9VWG | All opinions expressed here are
Michigan State University | my own. I don't speak for MSU
E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.ed | and they don't speak for me.
GO/CS -d+@ -p+ c++ !l u+(++) e+(*) s/+ n+(---) h+ f+ !g w+(+++) t++@ r(+) y?
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Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:23:48 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!nelson.as.arizona.edu!hlester@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CnErML.41F@eskimo.com> wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) writes:
>
>I know of one: telnet to callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 and do the usual
>readmes, etc. This is FCC data only, so no furriner info available. If
>anyone knows of others, I'd like to know about 'em too.
telnet pc.usl.edu 2000 has more recent updates than does cs.buffalo.edu 2000.
Howard
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 23:26:29 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
John W. Holman (jwh7k@galen.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: It will be 90 days on April 6th since the FCC has had my application. This
: is my first ham license, I have _not_ had a ham license canceled by the FCC.
: Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to resolve this problem and
: finally get a license?
:
If the ARRL can't help you, call your local congressman. It is
an election year, seven months to go till election day. Your
congressman will help ...
Thomas
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Date: 30 Mar 1994 00:48:08 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!lester.appstate.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In <tgmCnG945.69o@netcom.com> tgm@netcom.com writes:
> John W. Holman (jwh7k@galen.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
> : It will be 90 days on April 6th since the FCC has had my application. This
> : is my first ham license, I have _not_ had a ham license canceled by the FCC.
> : Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to resolve this problem and
> : finally get a license?
> :
>
> If the ARRL can't help you, call your local congressman. It is
> an election year, seven months to go till election day. Your
> congressman will help ...
Chill out guys and gals.....it may not be a perfect world but the people
in our club who tested around December 27 got their licenses about ten
days ago.
I know it frustrating to wait but everyone seems to have to do it. Some
time back there were postings in this group or rec.radio.amateur.misc
that the FCC in Gettysburg only issues ham licenses one day per week and
that there are delays at the VEC and at the FCC.
Marv Hoffman, KD4EGV
Boone, NC
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Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:30:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com!scott@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Obscenity on ham bands
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Dan Hughes (dhughes@prairienet.org) wrote:
: I just passed my no-code test last week, and have been listening to some
: ham chatter on my SW receiver. Saturday night on 3910 kHz I heard some
: of the most disgusting language I've encountered anywhere. One guy was
: spouting one obscentity after another, and three other guys were laughing
: at his inept signal and giving it right back to him. All but the
: instigator were regularly giving their calls. Is this pretty much what I
: have to look forward to?
: --
You're going to get a lot of advice on this one, ranging from "go down
to the CW subband, everyone's great there" to "bag HF and move up in
frequency" to "it's not too bad, don't worry about it."
I guess I'd have to fall pretty much into the third camp. I'd hate to
see good operators abandon HF phone due to a few idiots. Yup, there's a
bit of obnoxious behaviour out there. Evenings on 75 meters (especially
in the General phone band) can be... umm interesting. But for the most
part, these folks need not spoil your enjoyment of the hobby. They're
there, just as they're everywhere in society. Don't assign them more
importance than they should have. Move off a bit and enjoy contacts
with some of the fine folks who still inhabit the bands.
I'm fairly new at all of this too, and I don't like some of the
behaviour I hear either, but I refuse to let it spoil my enjoyment.
I've worked 49 states and quite a bit of DX on 75 phone this winter, and
rarely has anyone managed to spoil my fun. I've enjoyed virtually every
bit of it. Welcome to the hobby, and hang in there. There're a lot of
really good folks to talk to, even on 75 phone!
(PS - Does anybody in Hawaii ever work 75 phone? I'd love to get my
last state on the band, but I've never even heard a Hawaiin station, let
alone been able to contact one!)
Scott Turner N0VRF scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
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Date: 30 Mar 94 20:04:07 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: QRZ Question...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I run a Maximus telephone BBS for our ham club, and we've installed a
CD drive and the QRZ callsign CD. I attempted to use the QRZ.EXE search
engine that is included w/ the CD w/o luck. What happens is this: When
redirecting I/O to/from QRZ.EXE and the com port using the required
syntax ie:
UsrRemote F:\QRZ_<com1_>com1 Worthy "Callbook"
The program starts fine, except for the following: None of the keys
pressed for menu item selection is echoed, and you need to press
carriage return twice to register the menu selection you typed. Other
than these anomalies, the program works fine. To avoid confusing the
user, we wrote a quickie callsign-only search engine to allow use of
the callbook, but the users are clamoring for the complete search
capability of the QRZ program. I contacted the author of QRZ but he
could not duplicate the problem due to not having a Maximus
installation to evaluate. He claims that QRZ.EXE works fine w/ most BBS
"door" setups, so I suspect that the problem is with Maximus. Does
anyone on the net have any experience with Maximus and QRZ????????
Please email any ideas, replies, to me, as I'm only getting the
newsgroup digest, and might miss any newsgroup posts.....
Thanks in advance,
Dave Frandin, WA6QNW
dfrandin@horizons.com
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Date: 29 Mar 1994 16:38:59 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ddsw1!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: silent 700 pinouts?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
A friend of mine wants to use a silent 700 (model 745) to talk to a TNC. The
serial port on this particular model is a DB15 and not a DB25 connector. Does
anyone know what the pinout would be for this unit?
TNX
pete
pcs@impchi.mcs.com
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Date: 30 Mar 94 21:45:49 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!unet!loren!larson@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <764973671snx@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl> dihi@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl (Dick Hissink) writes:
>It happens again and again. Every couple of weeks six tremendous large
>files with AMATEURS ON USENET. This times each part from the six even
>three times. I think al the FCC's and PTT's like it, because it keeps
>my modem so busy....
>
>ok, ok, I know it is a lot of work to keep this list updated and, ok it
>is usefull to know who you can reach by usenet. But why not this alternative:
>
>AMATEURS ON USENET: Those interested can download the latest updated
>version by ftp form server....
>
>This saves a lot of unnecessary downloadtimes, my phonebill and I must
>say some irritation.
>What do Y'all think of my idea??
I think your idea will not work for the majority of readers who do not
have FTP access.
I *LIKE* having the stuff posted every now and then. It sort of helps
keep out the stupid FAQ type questions.
Why do you download it each time?
Alan
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:50:33 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!world!drt@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2n7901$6n4@apple.com>, <CnECJu.2L0@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Mar29.143925.20248@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?
Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
: In article <CnECJu.2L0@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
: >
: >Kok: Know who first used `iff' in the literature? Hint: He used to be
: >Chairman of the U.H. Math Dept. (didn't stay long, though...) and he
: >is quite famous. [VERY big hint: his intials are P.H.]
: PAUL HARVEY used to be chairman of the UH math department???
And now you know ... the REST of the story!
-drt
(If I hadn't, someone else would've ... :-)
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Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:32:18 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!mcduffie@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <Cn8ttu.AHI@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Mar26.180734.6273@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <bote.764956814@access1>
Subject : Re: Plain old repeaters
bote@access1.digex.net (John Boteler) writes:
>gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>Mr. Herman wrote:
>>>Gary: I'll be disappointed if your repeater beeps.
>>Sorry, you're disappointed. It does "roger beep" to signal user
>>carrier drop and timer reset. We run near zero tail so remote base
>>operators aren't locked out. We tried it without the beep, but users
>>complained they couldn't get in the machine. They couldn't hear their
>>kerchunk because their receivers weren't recovering fast enough. The
>>beep gives them 300 ms to recover. Users with noiseless squelch radios
>>never knew when the repeater dropped without the beep.
>I cannot believe what I am reading.
>Just when you had built up my respect for you, Gary,
>you go a do something like this! :)
>Instead of giving them training-wheel beeps to tell when
>the repeater has dropped, maybe they should actually
>wait a second to see that the other guy has
>finished transmitting.
Okay... I'll bite. Have we quit building full duplex remote bases now?
The remote shouldn't care if there is a zero tail or a 20 second tail.
What gives?
Gary (not THAT one, the OTHER one!)
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