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Info-Hams Digest Mon, 28 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 335
Today's Topics:
10M indoor problem.
Address Access Test
AMSAT-085 BULLETINS
Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 25 March
Difference between cordless phone and cellular phone?
Help!! Information on Hallicrafter equipment..
Need Programming info for Motrola Syntor X
RTTY help...
Sonobuoys
Telecom and Meteors
Visiting Canada and the U.S.A.
Voice mail on a repeater?
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Date: 27 Mar 94 18:14:16 GMT
From: envoy!equinox.ccs.unr.edu!destree@uunet.uu.net
Subject: 10M indoor problem.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I recently bought a HTX-100 (no equipment flames please...buying
the FT-990 would keep me from continuing school), and have set it up with
a "V" type 1/2 wave indoor antenna. I have not been able to talk to
anyone from my apartment yet. However, I have had good results (when the
band is in) from a measly 1/4 wave mag mount on my car.
The building I live in is made of stucco, with (I'm reasonably
sure) chicken wire in the walls. Most stucco buildings I've seen have
this wire in the walls. I am curious if the wire is acting as an
attenuator. If anyone has had a similar experience, let me know.
Yes, it is possible for me to put the antenna outside. However,
rather than having people lining up at my door complaining of TVI, I
wanted to keep everything indoors.
Thanks!
Louis
--
Louis A. Destree University of Nevada, Reno
destree@equinox.unr.edu <> destree@equinox.bitnet Electrical Engineering
Amateur Radio: N7XNX (General Class) Bike: 1980 Honda CB750C
"When things go from bad to worse, the cycle will repeat itself!"
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Date: 28 Mar 94 01:38:12 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Address Access Test
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
This is a test - >>KF9DU<<
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Date: 28 Mar 94 02:44:50 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: AMSAT-085 BULLETINS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-085.01
WEEKLY OSCAR STATUS REPORTS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 085.05 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD MARCH 26, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-085.01
Weekly OSCAR Status Reports: 26-MAR-94
AO-13: Current Transponder Operating Schedule:
M QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Mar 19-Apr 04
Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 90 |
Mode-BS : MA 90 to MA 120 |
Mode-S : MA 120 to MA 122 |<- S beacon only
Mode-S : MA 122 to MA 145 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-S : MA 145 to MA 150 |<- S beacon only
Mode-BS : MA 150 to MA 180 | Blon/Blat 180/0
Mode-B : MA 180 to MA 256 |
Omnis : MA 230 to MA 30 | Move to attitude 235/0, Apr 04 240/0, Apr 04
[G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR]
FO-20: The following is the current schedule for transponder operations:
ANALOG MODE:
23-Mar-94 7:52 -to- 30-Mar-94 8:15 UTC
6-Apr-94 6:45 -to- 13-Apr-94 7:10 UTC
20-Apr-94 7:35 -to- 27-Apr-94 7:55 UTC
11-May-94 6:54 -to- 18-May-94 7:20 UTC
Digital mode: Unless otherwise noted above.
[Kazu Sakamoto (JJ1WTK) qga02014@niftyserve.or.jp]
MIR: The packet call for MIR is R0MIR-1 and the operating frequency is
145.550 MHz. The crew usually has the Personal Messaging System
(PMS) running. If you hear voice operations ask for Victor, Yuri, or
Valeri. [VK3DFI]
AO-27: AMRAD-OSCAR-27 (AO-27) is up and going, and is said to be working
well. It is in popular use in Europe. The 436.800 MHz FM down-
link can be heard on a hand-held. Uplink is 145.850 MHz. It is
said to be only active in daylight passes. [G3IOR]
UFO: We have a UFO on 145.592 MHz sending data. It was first heard by
G3JQI at 18:50 UTC "dopplering" down until 18:55 UTC LOS on
16-MAR-94. [G3IOR]
The AMSAT NEWS Service (ANS) is looking for volunteers to contribute weekly
OSCAR status reports. If you have a favorite OSCAR which you work on a
regular basis and would like to contribute to this bulletin, please send
your observations to WD0HHU at his CompuServe address of 70524,2272, on
INTERNET at wd0hhu@amsat.org, or to his local packet BBS in the Denver, CO
area, WD0HHU @ W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM. Also, if you find that the current
set of orbital elements are not generating the correct AOS/LOS times at
your QTH, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. The information you
provide will be of value to all OSCAR enthusiasts.
/EX
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 11:20:23 MST
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 25 March
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
25 MARCH, 1994
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
(Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 25 MARCH, 1994
---------------------------------------------------------
NOTE: A large and intensifying area of stratospheric warming continues over
eastern Europe and Siberia, with warm air spreading northeastward.
Final warming is in progress.
!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 084, 03/25/94
10.7 FLUX=090.9 90-AVG=105 SSN=056 BKI=4123 3332 BAI=013
BGND-XRAY=B1.1 FLU1=3.0E+06 FLU10=1.8E+04 PKI=3233 3333 PAI=013
BOU-DEV=046,008,017,023,031,027,025,014 DEV-AVG=023 NT SWF=00:000
XRAY-MAX= B3.6 @ 0001UT XRAY-MIN= A9.1 @ 0810UT XRAY-AVG= B1.6
NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 1645UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 0945UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.0%
PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2350UT PCA-MIN= -0.5DB @ 1500UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55341NT @ 2359UT BOUTF-MIN=55314NT @ 1710UT BOUTF-AVG=55333NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+075,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+124NT@ 1745UT GOES6-MIN=N:-080NT@ 0626UT G6-AVG=+093,+022,-044
FLUXFCST=STD:095,095,100;SESC:095,095,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,010/010,010,010
KFCST=2113 3111 2113 3111 27DAY-AP=005,007 27DAY-KP=2122 2111 1233 2120
WARNINGS=
ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!
NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 24 MAR 94 was 37.1.
The Full Kp Indices for 24 MAR 94 are not available.
The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 24 MAR 94 are not available.
Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 25 MAR is: 2.9E+08
SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------
Solar activity was low. One C-class flare was observed:
a C3 at 2220Z which was not observed optically. The remainder
of the period was marked by very low levels of activity. New
Region 7696 (S18E05) was assigned today. X-ray imagery
indicates that a new region is rotating onto the disk near
N18E87.
Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
very low to low.
The geomagnetic field was predominantly quiet to unsettled.
A brief active period was observed at mid-latitudes from
0000-0300Z. Active to storm level conditions were observed
sporadically at high latitudes from 0900-1800Z.
Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is
expected to be generally unsettled for the next three days.
Event probabilities 26 mar-28 mar
Class M 01/01/01
Class X 01/01/01
Proton 01/01/01
PCAF Green
Geomagnetic activity probabilities 26 mar-28 mar
A. Middle Latitudes
Active 15/15/15
Minor Storm 10/10/10
Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05
B. High Latitudes
Active 15/15/15
Minor Storm 10/10/10
Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05
HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
Similar conditions should persist over the next 72 hours,
through 28 March inclusive. High and polar latitude paths may
see sporadic periods of minor signal degradation during the
local nighttime. Otherwise, near-normal conditions should
continue.
COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================
REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 25/2400Z MARCH
--------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
7692 N18W60 160 0020 HRX 01 001 ALPHA
7694 N10E30 070 0010 BXO 05 004 BETA
7695 S16E44 056 0010 BXO 03 004 BETA
7696 S17E05 095 0010 BXO 04 007 BETA
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 26 MARCH TO 28 MARCH
NMBR LAT LO
7684 S08 007
7685 S08 342
7687 N18 338
LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 25 MARCH, 1994
----------------------------------------------------
BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
NONE
POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 25 MARCH, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
25/ 0809 0821 0903 LDE B1.4 54
INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 25/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS
SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------
Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
24 Mar: 0258 0301 0307 B1.8
0337 0343 0351 B2.4
1151 1155 1203 B2.4
1412 1416 1421 B2.6
1650 1700 1721 B5.6
2200 2220 2233 C3.6
REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------
C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 006 (100.0)
Total Events: 006 optical and x-ray.
EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------
Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
NO EVENTS OBSERVED.
NOTES:
All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
III = Type III Sweep
IV = Type IV Sweep
V = Type V Sweep
Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
Loop = Loop Prominence System,
Spray = Limb Spray,
Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
** End of Daily Report **
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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 05:56:58 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wy1z@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Difference between cordless phone and cellular phone?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Mar21.081828.20432@news.snu.ac.kr> mslee@archi.snu.ac.kr writes:
>I think cellular phone is something like the repeater-aided communication
>in amateur radio.
>so, what is the uplink/downlink frequency (or what the magic is that)?
>
>and one more question:
>In cellular phone, I can hear his or her voice as well as mine,
>What makes it possible?
>
>Minsuk Lee (HL1ITJ)
>mslee@archi.snu.ac.kr
Basically, a cordless phone permits more flexible communication mainly at
the home or office, where you don't want to be tangled in cords (hence
cordless phone). The base is nearby.
Now, a cellular phone involves many 'cell sites' which consist of
transceivers/antennae on towers which cover a limited radius. When the
cell phone is in the vicinity of one of these sites, the signal of it
passes through. When the phone is out of range from one site and enters
the range of another site, the signal is passed onto that new site.
Both types of phones have transmit/receive frequencies.
Cordless phones (most common in homes) operate in the 46-47 Mhz range.
Newer ones with voice scrambling operate in the range of 900 Mhz.
One range of frequencies are typically used for handset->base, so you can
only hear the voice of the person holding the phone. The other
frequency, base-> handset, is where you can hear both sides. Also, since
there are no 'cell sites' for cordless phones, you can usually listen to
a conversation in full, uninterrupted.
Cellular phones operate in the 800 Mhz range (about 870 - 896 Mhz).
Since cellular phones jump from cell to cell, you can almost never keep
up with a full conversation - mainly because you would have to track down
which cell site the person jumped to.
Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.
Scott
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Date: 28 Mar 94 01:09:36 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!nic.umass.edu!risky.ecs.umass.edu!honey.ecs.umass.edu!obiliset@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Help!! Information on Hallicrafter equipment..
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hi all,
A good friend of mine (lives in India) requested
the OWNERS and SERVICE manuals for the following
HAM equipment:
Transmitter (Hallicrafter)
Model: HT - 44
Power Supply (Hallicrafter)
Model: PS 150-120
Receiver (R L Drake Co.)
Model: 2-B Communication Receiver
I would be grateful if someone emails me the
numbers I should call, or any other relevant details.
If I am posting to the wrong group -- APOLOGIES!!
Thanks,
Sashi Obilisetty
Design Automation Engineer
Alternative System Concepts, Inc.
Windham, New Hampshire
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Date: 27 Mar 94 21:40:28 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!nobody@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Need Programming info for Motrola Syntor X
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
If there's anyone out there that has any hints on the programming and use
of UHF Motorola Syntor X radios in the HAM 440 band, please drop
me a line.
Thanks
Brian
KA3BRZ
--
Brian Cuthie
Systemix Software, Inc.
brian@systemix.com
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Date: 28 Mar 94 04:01:45 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mgomez@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: RTTY help...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
HI there. I have a problem with my RTTY station. First of all,
here is the setup that I am running: Kenwood 940-s, PK232MBX and PC
Pakratt v 1.06, IBM XT. Now the problem. When I send out the type, it
echoes back to me jibberish. The characters that I send out are sometimes
deleted, but almost always backwards or inverted. I am told by other
stations that the type I send out is perfect. It is sent just as I typed
it, but what I see is all jumbled. Please, please, please, can somebody
help? I also have the same problem with AMTOR. Sheesh...
Tnx fer the help!!
Matt (AA3FQ)
The U of P ARC (N3KZ)
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Date: 23 Mar 94 00:21:32 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!donrm@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Sonobuoys
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Kenneth E. Harker (Kenneth.E.Harker@Dartmouth.Edu) wrote:
> we were to somehow activate the third, sealed buoy, and it's battery
> still functioned, what sort of signal does it put out, and is there any
> way we could monitor it? Alternatively, does anyone know what sort of
> radios these things have in them? Are they useful for anything other
> than sonobuoys? What would they be worth?
These things used to be popular in the beginning days of 2 Meter FM;
there was an article published somewhere called the "sonobaby" that
showed how to convert one to the 2 M FM ham band.
The one I had had a saltwater activated battery that put out something
like 15 VDC and transmitted somewhere around 150 Mhz FM. There was no
effort made by the designer to miniaturize the circuitry, and it ran
something like 1 watt. There was also a timer circuit that melted a
fuseplug that sent the thing to the bottom after X hours of transmitting.
The body of the sonobuoy had about 100 feet of what looked like miniature
twinlead connecting the hydrophone to the FM transmitter.
I doubt seriously if the sonobuoy is worth anything other than a cur-
iosity point.
> issues, illegal transmission issues, etc...) that we should be
You can always take it apart, put in a ham band crystal and retune it.
Don Montgomery, K6LTS
donrm@sr.hp.com
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Date: 23 Mar 94 00:01:01 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!cdfore@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Telecom and Meteors
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Help!! I'm Looking for info on using meteors to bounce signals for
telecommunication. I saw a show in January on it. I have to write a
paper on something in telecommunication and as you can see my writing sucks.
But I think if I can get some info about something my prof has not hear
of it will help. So is there anyone out there with info or know how I can get
some.
E-mail cdfore@rs600.cmp.ilstu.edu
Curt Fore lost Student and new i-net user :->
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Date: 27 Mar 1994 11:10:10 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!newshost.wcc.govt.nz!MILLER_P%ix.wcc.govt.nz@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Visiting Canada and the U.S.A.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Greetings,
I have a non internet friend who is visiting the U.S.A.
and Canada in early April this year. His name is Kerr and his
callsign is ZL2QD.
He is mainly a HF operator, but has recently purchased a VHF/UHF
HT. The HT has full 2m (144-148) and 70cm (430-450) coverage.
He has applied to the FCC for a permit to operate in the U.S.A.
but that was only 30 days ago. We are informed the FCC takes 60
days to process reciprocal permits.
He has asked the FCC to forward his licence to Skagway, Alaska.
His itinerary from Skagway will be Whitehorse-Vancouver-
Calgary-Vancouver and San Francisco.
To cater for contingencies, I have the following questions:
1. Can Kerr operate in Canada with a US licence?
2. If the FCC does not come up with the goods, can he get a
Canadian licence by presenting his New Zealand licence to
the appropriate Canadian authorities. If so, where are the
licensing offices in the Canadian cities mentioned above?
3. If he were to obtain a Canadian licence, what is its validity
in the U.S.A.?
4. Could some kind individual email me the freqs for 2m and 70cm
open repeaters in the cities mentioned above.
I read rec.radio.amateur.misc every day so usenet postings
will be ok.
All replies will be acknowledged
73 from Wellington, New Zealand
DE Paul ZL1BEZ
--
Internet Email: miller_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Packet Radio: ZL1BEZ@ZL2WA.#60.NZL.OC
Fax: 64 4 387-3231
Phone: 64 4 386-3168
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Date: 28 Mar 94 04:25:26 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!afabro@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Voice mail on a repeater?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <bote.764487800@access3>,
John Boteler <bote@access.digex.net> wrote:
>wkinning@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Warren Kinninger) writes:
>
(stuff deleted)
>I have only heard voice mailboxes on the ACC garbage.
>I know that other repeater controllers have voice mailboxes.
>
>How does voice mail on a ham repeater perform? I am curious
>about actual users' experiences.
Well, one of the clubs here in Cols. has purchased two DRC 186 controllers
from A/D Technologies and they have "user profiles" that includee voice
mail.
Each member has their own user number. When they logon (user id + password)
the controller responds with their number and then their call (which the
user puts in). Then, they hit a code for voice mail and it lists if that user
has mail. Then it gives a menu of things they can do in voice mail. Pretty
neat!
>
>If each member has an assigned voice mailbox, then that
>might be useful, but it would definitely drive up the volume
>of traffic on the repeater as people check in
>for messages. Even if the repeater announces that
>messages are waiting, that increase in noise itself
>could become annoying after a while.
Yes, the usage on the repeaters has gone up. But, you can also login over the
phone and get your messages, or send them. This eliminates people just getting
on to see if thy have mail.
>
>On the other hand, I have begged for certain stations
>to reach their destinations or change frequencies
>while they incessantly called over and over and
>over again for someone to no avail.
You can also page someone -- like the page function on the ACC RC-850.
>
>Is voice mail something that many hams want on their
>favorite repeater?
After having this for over a year, I would say yes!!!
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| Anthony P. Fabro | |
| afabro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
| Columbus, Ohio | < SAFETY FIRST --- ALWAYS! > |
| Amateur Radio Call N8RRB | \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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Date: 27 Mar 1994 17:38:05 GMT
From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2n079g$pl1@usenet.rpi.edu>, <Ba2OBqp.edellers@delphi.com>, <wa2iseCnAqoH.6tL@netcom.com>
Subject : Re: Hole in car roof: Affect vehicle value?
>Well, you could get a cell phone antenna and install it in the hole. Then
>the car is "cell phone ready", which might add value, or at least not
>subtract value.
Hell, if you're going to sell the car privately, go get a cell phone
($149 reconditioned all over the place) and install it!
Of course, if you're driving what most hams are driving, the torn
upholstery, dents in the fenders, faded paint, and cigarette ashes and
coffee stains everywhere are going to make much more of an impact than
one hole in the roof. Adding the cell phone might well double the
value of the car.
- Brian
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