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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 17 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  300

Today's Topics:
                            1x1 Callsigns?
                          Airband Bandplan?
                         Baycom Software info
                          BayPac to TM-241a
                        FTP HAM sites for Mac?
                         HAM Origin? (2 msgs)
                                IC-22S
                     IPS Daily Report 16 March 94
                               Part 97
              Wanted: "This Week in Amateur Radio" Info
                  WWV Voice announcments?? (2 msgs)

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:55:58 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!darwin.sura.net!perot.mtsu.edu!raider!theporch!jackatak!root@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 1x1 Callsigns?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare (KA1CV)) writes:
> Actually, international agreements and regulations do not
> allow a 1X1 format; 1X2, 2X1, 2X2, 1X3 or 2X3 only, 
> JY1 notwithstanding. :-).
Oh? What about M1C?
73
Jack, W4PPT/Mobile (75M SSB 2-letter WAS #1657 -- all from the mobile! ;^)

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| root@jackatak.raider.net  -   "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" |
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 02:35:25 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!tiger!sun330.snu.ac.kr!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Airband Bandplan?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I have a receiver that can tune to the Aircraft Band.
Is there any frequency usage guideline or something like that?

Minsuk Lee
mslee@archi.snu.ac.kr

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 18:18:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!internet!meteor!captiva!mikeq@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Baycom Software info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

---
Hello folks,
 Does anyone know where I can get information
on the L2 program used by Baycom. This is the TSR program that
is used to interface the Baycom terminal program with the hardware modem.
I am interested in cpu registers etc. that are used to communicate with
this L2 driver.  Any info/sources would be appreciated.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Queally                       | Email  : mikeq@pivot-sts.sbi.com

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Date: 17 Mar 1994 02:53:48 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!ad848@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BayPac to TM-241a
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

   I have a BayPac Packet Modem and would like to hook it to my 
Kenwood TM-241a Mobile.  I'm in need of the pin configuration to properly 
hook up the Packet Modem.  The TM-241a has an 8-Pin mic connector.

   Thx for any help anyone can offer!  (Please reply via EMail)

     ...Jim   (KB8NHT)

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        (JEVERS@DELPHI.COM)          |       Midland, TX  79709-0424

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Date: 17 Mar 1994 02:00:28 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!bwehr@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FTP HAM sites for Mac?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

hey all. looking for some ham FTP sites for the Mac. If anyone has a listing
of them drop me some mail it would be appreciated.


-Brant 
 
        
______________________________________________________________________________    Brant Wehr N0UTT
     internet bwehr@iastate.edu
        Activities Director  CARC
            Electrical Engineering
______________________________________________________________________________
-- 
Brant 
bwehr@iastate.edu

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 20:17:37 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!uhog.mit.edu!xn.ll.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM Origin?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 
I have a father-in-law who is a ham Chuck Kramer (KE4BWG) he asked where and
when the word "HAM" came to be... Is it an acronymn? We have asked many
HAMS and even consulted Encyclopedia Brittanica and still no luck...
Please help, Maybe I can also prove to him that the Internet is worth more
[D

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 04:04:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM Origin?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Edward Sorensen (edsorensen@delphi.com) wrote:
: I have a father-in-law who is a ham Chuck Kramer (KE4BWG) he asked where and
how many non-ham fathers-in-law do you have?  :-)

: when the word "HAM" came to be... Is it an acronymn? We have asked many
: HAMS and even consulted Encyclopedia Brittanica and still no luck...
: Please help, Maybe I can also prove to him that the Internet is worth more
It's not an acronym and noone really knows where it came from.  My 
favorite is that it was shortened from Hiram Maxim's name. Or that it is 
the Scottish or Irish pronunciation of le'amateur, Or that the opposite 
of a lid in the telegraph service was a ham. (the most likely in my 
opinion).  Lid came from the habit of poor telegraph operators to set 
there 'receivers' on a tin lid to amplify the sound.
This should bring quite a few responses, I look forward to hearing them.  

cheers,
Dan
--
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Daniel D. Todd      Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa              *
*                   Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu                      *
*                 Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102                       *
*                             Davis CA 95616                          *
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*  resemblence to actual opinions of persons living or dead is        *
*  completely coincidental.                                           * 
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:58:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!cs.uoregon.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!saturn.wwc.edu!krh_krhlab14.wwc.edu!morgdw@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: IC-22S
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Would like to get mods for +5K and +10K steps for prog freq.  

Want to know if it is possible to modify for transmit from 144Mhz to 148Mhz.

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 23:37:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!sserve!usage!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: IPS Daily Report 16 March 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 16/2330Z MARCH 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 16 MARCH AND FORECAST UP TO 19 MARCH

No warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 086/029

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             17 March           18 March           19 March
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 085/027

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
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2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : unsettled to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 15 March
    Learmonth       19  4333 4433
    Fredericksburg  15                          31
    Planetary       18                          42


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST 
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
17 Mar    15    Unsettled.
18 Mar    10    Unsettled.
19 Mar    10    Quiet to unsettled.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
16 Mar      normal         fair-normal    poor-fair      
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
17 Mar      normal         fair-normal    poor-fair     
18 Mar      normal         normal         fair          
19 Mar      normal         normal         fair          
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
NONE.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were depressed 15-20% during local day, with spread F
conditions observed during local night.

Observed T index for 16 March:   9

Predicted Monthly T Index for March is 40.

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
17 Mar    20    About 15% below predicted monthly values.
18 Mar    30    Near predicted monthly values.
19 Mar    35    Near predicted monthly values.


4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.
-- 
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email: rwc@ips.oz.au                          |PO Box 5606
tel: +61 2 4148329                            |West Chatswood NSW 2057
fax: +61 2 4148331                            |AUSTRALIA

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:59:47 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Part 97
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Jack C. Lockhart (lockhart@mothra.nts.uci.edu) wrote:
: In article <2m7t08$o9i@lester.appstate.edu>,
: Watkins, Robert Shawn          <RW884@CONRAD> wrote:
: >Is there a way I can get a copy of the revised Part 97 via e-mail?

: I just got mine from.

: ftp.cs.buffalo.edu in pub/ham-radio/ fcc_part-97-1
:                                      fcc_part-97-2
:                                      fcc_part-97-3
Is there a way to get just the updates?  
I have the ARRL 9th edition  c.1990  I'd like to have just the update to 
slip in the book.

Thanks,
Dan
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* Daniel D. Todd      Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa              *
*                   Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu                      *
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 21:47:09 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Wanted: "This Week in Amateur Radio" Info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hello John...I am the technical director for This Week In Amateur Radio. I
believe you can find us on the 435 machine in LA. We are looking for a "voice
columnist" from the LA area on whatever topics are hot. Any takers?   If you
have a satellite dish (TVR
O) you can find us on Omega Radio at 5.8mhz sub-carrier on Transponder 17
(4040Ghz). 73 and keep in touch!

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Date: 17 Mar 94 03:10:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!dptspd!ephsa!lou@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: WWV Voice announcments??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

solso@prairienet.org (Stan Olson) writes:

> 
> Does any one have a schedule of when WWV announces the solar flux
> and stuff?? If you could mail me the times/freqs, that would be
> great!! Thanks
> 

Stan -
Solar 
Flux is updated at 18 minutes past the hour, on all WWV freqs.
Lou

--
lou@ephsa.sat.tx.us (Lou Genco)              
Rivercity Matrix  --  +1 (210) 561-9815/21  --  San Antonio, Texas

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:26:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!sifon!clouso.crim.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!mac9.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!user@network.
Subject: WWV Voice announcments??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <2m7abn$2jk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, solso@prairienet.org (Stan
Olson) wrote:

> 
> Does any one have a schedule of when WWV announces the solar flux
> and stuff?? If you could mail me the times/freqs, that would be
> great!! Thanks
> 

Solar flux and such are announced 18 min. after the hour.
WWV frequencies are 2.5, 5, 10, 15 and 20 MHz.


-- 
Jean-Marie Houle                                  houlejm@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec              Tel (514) 652-8083
1800 Mtee Ste Julie                               Fax (514) 652-8435
Varennes, Quebec
Canada, J3X 1S1

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Date: 16 Mar 1994 20:05:10 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2lqka5$8k3@news.iastate.edu>, <2m09j7$4i@apple.com>, <2m78pf$5kh@news.iastate.edu>
Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?

wjturner@iastate.edu (William J Turner) writes:

>In article <2m09j7$4i@apple.com> kchen@apple.com (Kok Chen) writes:
>>The ARRL DXCC list shows
>>
>>    A2            Botswana
>>    A3            Tonga
>>    A4            Oman
>>    A5            Bhutan
>>    A6            United Arab Emirates
>>    A7            Qatar
>>    A9            Bahrain
>>
>>Geez, perhaps I can move to the UAE and use A6TY :-).

>That call wouldn't be leagal there, as A6 is the *prefix*, and the prefix does
>*not* include the mandatory number.  Thus for my call, N0RDV, the prefix is N,
>not N0.  Therefore, calls in UAE could be A6#XX, but not A6XX.

>Understand?


Since V7 is the *prefix* for Marshall Is., the V7A and V7X stations
I recently worked must have been a figment of my imagination.  Prefix,
no "mandatory number," one letter suffix.  

Don't like one letter suffixes?  Well the W6GO list also show V7MHZ 
and V7RTTY.

Further perusal of the W6GO list reveals calls like 

J5U     (J5 is *prefix* for Guinea-Bissau), 
J7D     (J7 is *prefix* for Dominica), 
S0RASD  (S0 is *prefix* for Western Sahara),
S7BA    (S7 is *prefix* for Seychelles),
T5CB    (T5 is *prefix* for Somalia).

I would be really interested to know where Will's "mandatory number" 
for these station callsigns are.  I sure can't spot them.

And, who can forget the amateur callsign RAEM, with *no* number at all.
Haw!

73 es DX,

Kok Chen, AA6TY    kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:12:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2m4rsv$mba@bigfoot.wustl.edu>, <1994Mar16.155633.14996@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <brett_miller.15.000E3859@ccm.hf.intel.com>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Grounding and lightning protection

In article <brett_miller.15.000E3859@ccm.hf.intel.com> brett_miller@ccm.hf.intel.com (Brett Miller - N7OLQ) writes:
>In article <1994Mar16.155633.14996@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>(snip)
>>   That's the principle on which lightning rods are founded. They generate
>>   streamers so that they are the preferred target of lightning bolts. Since
>>   they are installed with low impedance paths to ground, they are able to
>>   *divert* strike currents from harming other nearby structures. This is
>>   called the "cone of protection". It's diameter is equal to about 1/3
>>   the HAAT of the lightning rod in most installations. (High towers have
>>   other problems, and a "rolling sphere" method of estimating the protective
>>   zone must be used.)
>(snip)
>
>This is what I am having a hard time understanding.  I am told that if 
>I put  things on my roof like antennas and solar panels, that they should be 
>grounded with heavy guage wire etc.  Sounds to me like I'm just turning all my 
>roof ornaments into lightning rods!  Wouldn't it be better to leave them 
>ungrounded and install a lightening rod on the roof?

No, it's better to ground them according to the National Electrical Code
*and* install a lightning rod. The grounds are there to protect *you*
in case they get struck *despite* the protection of a lightning rod.
Remember their little downleads are still better paths towards ground
than anything else up there other than the lightning rod, but those little
leads go through your equipment to get to ground. Not good. You want to
furnish lightning with a better path to ground than the one through your
equipment. That's what the separate heavy ground lead is for.

Lightning rods are good streamer producers because they have a sharp
point. Current flow at the air terminal is always easier from a sharp
point rather than from a blunt object. Everything else being equal, the 
sharpest point on the roof will be preferentially struck.

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:09:09 GMT
From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!nshore!fmsystm.telemax.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Mar14.163412.24670@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, <Anthony_Pelliccio-140394143004@138.16.64.52>, <bote.763793771@access1>-state.e
Subject : Re: PC-based repeater controllers?

In article <bote.763793771@access1> bote@access1.digex.net (John Boteler) writes:
>Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes:
>>a4q4@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (D.J.Trynor EE) wrote:
>>>  I have a PS/2 Model 30 sitting idle on my desk.....I have no hard drive for
>>> it, so I'm looking for a possible application for it. I'd like to know
>>> if anyone has any information on how I might change this unit into a
>>> repeater controller. 
>
>>The software end wouldn't be too complicated either, and with a hard drive
>>it'd be one kick-butt controller. Hell.. think of the mods you could make!
>
>My club has been kicking this around for way too long now.
>
>We have looked at several PC-based repeater controllers,
>but they are either way the hell too expensive for
>what they do or they do only what they do with no
>room for innovation or expansion.
>
Since were on this subject...

Has anybody ever used a VIC-20 as a repeater controller???  After
taking one of my three VIC's out of the basement to look into the
controller situation, I think it would be quite feasable.  I used
to program it in Machiene Language because I got bored with Basic.

After I graduate from college (3 months), I really want to put my
6 meter repeater on the air.  I don't need a fancy controller,
just something that can be turned on and off by remote, tone or no
tone by remote, and the always neccissary ID'er (which might be the
_eiasyest_ part of the program).

If somebody could give me a few hints, kinks, or whatever, would
be greatly appreciated.  I have also heard through the grapevine
that the Dayton Amateur Radio Club, used to use VIC's as controllers.
So, I suppose, _somebody_ has a VIC controller on tape.  (I never
bought a disk drive for my VIC, too fast!).

So long for now...

-- 
Mesmerized by a decade of hate,           ! AMATEUR =   N8OFS 
Flowers and remorse,                      ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Fading vision lost in time,               ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Tragedy on course!!! - Frontline Assembly ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 02:42:24 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2m78pf$5kh@news.iastate.edu>, <763839599snz@g8sjp.demon.co.uk>, <2m7pt4$dc9@news.iastate.edu>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?

In article <2m7pt4$dc9@news.iastate.edu> wjturner@iastate.edu (William J Turner) writes:
>Check the international agreements.  By them, ham calls are to be a one or two
>character prefix (can include numbers), a number (hence, the mandatory
>number), and a one to three letter suffix (no numbers allowed).

Quote the appropriate section if you can.

>>Yes, your callsign prefix is 'N', and the reason it's followed by a '0' is
>>simple beacuse the FCC decided it should be that way. According to callsign
>>allocations for the USA, if the FCC had decided to issue you with the call
>>'NOTWITHSTANDING', then that would have been perfectly legal and acceptable,
>>although perhaps not to you :-)
>
>You are correct in the FCC assigning the 0, they could assign any number (1,
>2, 3, etc), and the FCC just happens to use call-number districts.
>
>Therefore, 'NOTWITHSTANDING' would *not* fit as there is not number, thus no
>prefix or suffix.  (You have to have something to attach them to.)  It may be
>legal, but it wouldn't be an acceptable ham call according to international
>agreements.

Consider the following callsigns WSB, WAGA, WXIA, WTBS, KIX94, WBJ1347,
and WKRP, they're all legal US callsigns and they don't necessarily have
numbers. As far as I can tell, ham callsigns are treated *no differently* 
under the international regulations than any other callsign for any other 
service. It's completely up to the national administration as to whether 
numbers are used as part of the call after the required international prefix. 
NOTWITHSTANDING is indeed a legal US call under the international regulations, 
though not under FCC regulations because it's too long to fit any of the
designated blocks for different services.

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 

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