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Info-Hams Digest            Mon,  7 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  260

Today's Topics:
                           4-1000A Chimney
              400 Hz xtal ladder filter, help. (2 msgs)
                ANARTS RTTY NEWS BULLETIN 799 06/03/94
                      copying cw on typewriters
                      IPS Daily Report 06 03 94

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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:22:32 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 4-1000A Chimney
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Don Turner (don.turner@eabbs.com) wrote:
: Hi Guys:  I need a chimney for my 4-1000A tube.  The Eimac part number
: is SK-506.  If any of you are will to let go of one of these, leave a
: message.  .....Don Turner WA6WRX

I know that a Coleman lantern globes work perfectly for 3-1000's.  Not sure
if they work with 4-1000's.  They are much cheaper than Eimac chimneys.

AL N1AL

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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:33:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 400 Hz xtal ladder filter, help.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

asirene@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (asirene@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: Hi,

:  My homemade QRP xcvr has a 600 Hz BW xtal ladder filter
: consisting of 4 12.0000 MHz xtals. However I still find it hard to
: work pile-ups due to insufficient selectivity. I am planning to
: change it to 400 Hz. Does anyone know how much improvement I can
: expect to see? Also, how can this be done in the easiest way? Do
: I need to add xtal stages or just change to capacitor values?

: 72 es 73,
: Daniel

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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:56:18 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 400 Hz xtal ladder filter, help.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

: asirene@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg wrote:

: :  My homemade QRP xcvr has a 600 Hz BW xtal ladder filter
: : consisting of 4 12.0000 MHz xtals. However I still find it hard to
: : work pile-ups due to insufficient selectivity. I am planning to
: : change it to 400 Hz. Does anyone know how much improvement I can
: : expect to see? Also, how can this be done in the easiest way? Do
: : I need to add xtal stages or just change to capacitor values?

Going from 600 Hz to 400 Hz may not be enough of a change to make
a significant difference.  You might want to shoot for a bit narrower.

I'm assuming the circuit has the capacitors in series between input
and output with shunt capacitors at input/output and the junctions
of each pair of crystals.  Increasing the capacitance should narrow
the bandwidth.  It will also lower the resonant frequency a bit 
and increase the insertion loss slightly.

Zack Lau (KH6CP) (zlau@arrl.org) wrote:

: ... Increasing the capacitor values will
: decrease the bandwidth, but will also decrease the impedance.
: Impedance matching is important to maintain the proper filter
: shape.  ...

To clarify, the load impedance is not really matched to the crystals, 
it is matched to the source.  Consider a single-section series crystal 
with no matching capacitors.  So long as the crystal series resistance 
is small compared to the load resistance, the crystal has no effect
on source/load match at resonance.  

When you add the shunt capacitors on input/output, you basically have 
added L-networks at both ends, with the crystal providing the required 
series inductance to effect the proper match.  (The crystal looks 
inductive above resonance.)  The "L-network" transforms the 50 ohm
source/load impedance down to a lower value, which increases the
loaded Q of the crystal, narrowing the bandwidth.  That also increases
the insertion loss, which is proportional to (loaded Q) / (unloaded Q).
The bigger the capacitor, the greater the impedance transformation and
the narrower the bandwidth.

In the following "schematic", L is the net inductance of the off-resonant 
crystal, and R is the crystal's effective series resistance:

          L-network                L-network
        |<---------->|           |<---------->|
                _______________________
               |                       |
Input ------+--|-- L/2 --- R --- L/2 --|--+------ Output
     |  |_______________________|  |
     |          Crystal            |
        Input Cap                    Output Cap
            |                             |
           Gnd                           Gnd

AL N1AL

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Date: 7 Mar 94 12:12:44 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!sserve!usage!metro!news.ci.com.au!eram!dave@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ANARTS RTTY NEWS BULLETIN 799 06/03/94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

[ ANARTS - Australian National Amateur Radio Teletype Society ]

ANARTS NEWS BULLETIN 799 06/03/94

SUNDAY TRANSMISSION DETAILS.
  3.545 MHz                  0930 UTC    This relay is in 
                                   recess until 3rd April.
  7.045 MHz -3               0030 UTC     VK2CTD (Col)
 14.070 MHz (amtor/fec)      0030 UTC     VK2DPM (Alan)
 14.091 MHz                  0030 UTC     VK2BQS (JIM)
146.675 MHz             0030/0930 UTC     VK2JPA (PAT)
144.850 MHz (ax25 bbs)                    VK2JPA AT VK2RWI
146.675 MHz (rtty mmbbs/repeater)          VK2RTY


Views  expressed  in  this news bulletin are  not  necessarily
those of the Broadcast Officer, the Relay Officers, or of the 
Society.

Well,  did you see us at the Central Coast Field Day?  We were
on  the  top floor of the stand if you could not  find  us.  I
believe this happened to other clubs whose displays were on  a
lower  floor last year.  Shall suggest to the host club that a
location board be displayed outside the stand main entrance so
that all club stands can be found more easily next year. It is
a great location, spacious outlook,  but I suppose it is a bit
hard to get past the refreshment floor, hi hi.

The  winner of the Morse Contest held on the ANARTS  Stand  at
Wyong  last  Sunday was VK2IC (he sounds more like a  computer
specialist  than  a practitioner of the Ancient Art  of  Morse
Code).  He had two errors in sending and one in receiving.  He
was  the  proud  and  pleased recipient of  the  prizes :  the
President's Bottle(s). 

All in all,  the day appeared to be a great success -- did you
meet the IPS team ?  There were four on deck during the day. I
am  looking  forward to seeing the attendance figures for  the
day.  With this new venue,  the attendance seems to be  spread
out more,  or is it just because there are more places to look
for people and stands.

We look forward to next year and seeing you all again.

           ----------------------------------------
BARTG Contest
-------------
Date: March 19-21 1994, sponsored by the British Amateur Radio
Teledata Group.

Exchange: Send: RST + QSO number + time in UTC.               

Multipliers: Each DXCC country, including first QSO with W, VE
and  VK,  counts  as  a multiplier on  each  band.  Each  call
district  in W,  VE and VK will count as an additional on each
band.  Also,  each continent (6) will count once, not once per
band.

QSO Points: Count 1 (one) point per QSO.                      

Final  score:  Total  QSOs  x total multipliers  x  number  of
continents (max 6).

Logs:  Use  separate logsheets for each band.  Logs must show:
BAND,   DATE  and  TIME  (UTC),  CALLSIGN,  MESSAGE  Sent  and
Received, COUNTRIES and POINTS claimed.

Summary sheet must show full scoring,  times of operation, and 
address for correspondence.

Logsheets,  summary  sheets and multiplier and dupesheets  are 
all  available  for copying from the RTTY  Contester's  Guide, 
published by RTTY Journal.

Deadline: Logs must be received by May 25 to qualify.

Mail logs to:                            
             BARTG c/o John Barber, G4SKA
             32 Wellbrook Street
             Tiverton, Devon
             EX165JW, England

Have fun!

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                      IPS weekly report
                      -----------------

                  24 FEBRUARY - 3 MARCH 1994
Issue No 09
Date of issue:  4 March, 1994

INDICES:
Date     25    26    27    28    01    02    03
10cm    097   094   095   093   094   098   101
A        12    06    06    09    10    17 ( 17 estimated)
T        71    27    55    57    47    73    64
          
                     SUMMARY OF ACTIVITY

Solar  activity  was very low 25th-26th and 28th  February-1st 
March,  moderate on 27th,  and low on 2nd-3rd March. There was 
an M2 flare on 27th february.

The  geomagnetic  field at Learmonth (WA) was quiet  on  27th, 
quiet to unsettled 26th, 28th-3rd March, apart for a period of 
minor storm activity on 3rd.

Ionospheric  F2  critical frequencies at Sydney were uo to  20 
per  cent  above  predicted  monthly  values  on  25th,   near 
predicted  levels  on 26th,  near predicted  with  enhancement 
periods of up to 30 per cent on 27th-1st,  and enhanced 10  t0 
15  per cent on 2nd-3rd March.  Sporadic E may have degraded F 
layer communications at times on 1st March.


     FORECAST FOR THE NEXT WEEK (4 -10 MARCH)

SOLAR:        low

GEOMAGNETIC:  active-minor storm periods expected March 4-9, due
              to a solar coronal hole.

IONOSPHERIC:  degraded HF comms expected March 4-9. Depressions
              of up to 20% may be experienced at times  during 
              this interval.

       Updated IPS Monthly Predicted Smoothed T-indices
             Prepared on Mon Feb 28 12:58:20 1994
YEAR JAN FEB  MAR  APR  MAY  JUN  JUL  AUG  SEP  OCT  NOV  DEC
==============================================================
1993                                                        42 
1994  39  37  36   35   34    31   29   27   24   22   21   19 
1995  19  18  17   16   15    14   14   13   12   11   11   10 
1996  10   9   9    8    8     7    8    8    9   10   11   12 
1997  13  14  16   18   20    22   25   28   32   35   40   46 

Courtesy of IPS Radio and Space Services
           ----------------------------------------

VK2SG RTTY DX NOTES 25 FEB 94

VK2SG RTTY DXNOTES WEEKENDING 25 FEBRUARY 1994 (BID RTDX0225)

OUR  INFORMATION  THIS WEEK CAME FROM:  9X5LJ,  DJ3IW AND  THE
CENTRAL-EUROPE DX CLUSTER NODE DB0SPC,  I5FLN,  IK5AAX AND THE
IK5PWJ PACKET CLUSTER, W2JGR AND THE NJ0M NODE THE TWIN-CITIES
DX  PACKET CLUSTER,  W5KSI AND ZS5S.  THANK YOU ALL  FOR  YOUR 
ASSISTANCE.

BANDPASS

FRIDAY 18
DX NOT SLEEPIN, JUST RESTIN

SATURDAY 19
0114-14088  S92ZM                  0707-14082  UN7LR
1110-21073  5Z4FO FEC              1516-14085  ZS9A
1520-21083 8ZD7DP                  1527-14088  ER3ED
1529-21088  V50CM                  1537-14085  5R8DG
1542-14087  EX2U                   1706-14087  5B4VX

SUNDAY 20
0843-21086  9N1AA                  0843-21089  9M1AA
1045-21086  FR5ZU                  1052-21083  TZ6FIC
1129-21085  ZD8M                   1253-21083  ZD7DP
1355-21086  9H1ET                  1358-21091  HJ4SAN
1401-14086  UT5DX                  1407-14084  5B4VX
1421-14084  XU7VK                  1448-14088  UN7LR
1450-14089  YL3FW                  1455-21086  5R8DS
1627-14084  S59F                   1633-14090  5B4ABU
1835-14087  ZS1CU                  2230-14064  TY1PS CLOVER

MONDAY 21
1317-14086  EA8/ON8RI              1720-14083  V31WW
2044-14085  V31DV                  2044-14090  J88BS
2052-14083  ZD7DP                  2135-14086  V31EN
2209-14085  S92ZM                  2156-14085  CO2JJ
2330-14085  V31DV

TUESDAY 22
0113-14086  V31II                  1634-14086  V31WW
1814-14087  V31EO  QSL KF8NN       1954-14083  J88BS
2012-14085  V32GM                  2017-14086  CO2KG
2019-14082  V31GM                  2139-14085  V31MV
2339-14083  V31JU

WEDNESDAY 23
1620-14088  HK1LAQ

THURSDAY 24
0021-14086  CX7BF                  2006-14084  ZS0X QSL DJ6JC

NOTES OF INTEREST.

PENGUIN ISLANDS,  ZS0 AND WALVIS BAY,  ZS9.  THE GOVERNMENT OF
SOUTH AFRICA, AGREED TO HAND OVER THE THIRTEEN PENGUIN ISLANDS
AND  WALVIS BAY,  TO THE REPUBLIC OF NAMIBIA ON  28  FEBRUARY.
DJ6JC,  DJ6SI AND V51BI, USING THE CALL ZS0X, SHOULD HAVE BEEN
ACTIVE  ON  23-28 FEBRUARY FROM PENGUIN ISLANDS AND ZS6EZ  AND
G3XTT WITH THE CALL,  ZS9Z,  FROM WALVIS BAY. THEY BOTH BECAME
PART OF NAMIBIA BEGINNING 1 MARCH AND MORE THAN LIKELY WILL BE
DELETED AS DXCC COUNTRIES.

DESECHEO,  KP5. THE PLANNED DXPEDITION BY A GROUP OF OPERATORS
FOR 1-7 MARCH, HAS BEEN CANCELLED. PERMISSION TO LAND HAS BEEN
DENIED BECAUSE A GROUP OF HAITIAN SQUATTERS. UNTIL THIS CAN BE
RESOLVED, NO LANDING PERMISSION CAN BE GIVEN.

REVILLA  GIGEDO,  XF4.  THIS OPERATION WAS ON UNTIL  4  MARCH. 
QSL HECTOR, XE1BEF.

MAYOTTE,  FH.  HERMANN, DJ2BW SHOULD BE SIGNING FH/DJ2BW FOR A 
MUCH NEEDED ONE IN RTTY FROM 1-9 MARCH. KYFC

FOR  NEXT  WEEK'S BULLETIN,  SEND YOUR BANDPASS AND  NOTES  OF 
INTEREST TO JULES, W2JGR AT W2TKU.#SRQ.FL.USA.NA

REMEMBER, DX DON'T SLEEP.
GL DE BOB, WB2CJL AT W5KSI.NOLA.LA.USA.NA
           ---------------------------------------

Coming events
-------------
1994
March         19th-20th         BARTG WW RTTY Contest

April         16th-17th         SARTG WW AMTOR Contest
              ------------------------------------   

Society information

The Society may be contacted at :  PO Box 860, Crows Nest 2065
Australia,   for   such  matters  as  membership  and  general
enquiries.  Enquiries  can  also  be made  by  packet  to  the
President (Col) VK2CTD, or the Secretary (Pat) VK2JPA @ VK2OP.

News  items  may  be  sent to  Broadcast  Officer  PO  Box  60
Blacktown  2148 Australia,  or by packet to VK2JPA @  VK2OP. 

Email addresses for the Broadcast Officer are : 

patl@extro.ucc.su.oz.au   or  VK2JPA@VK2OP nsw.aus.oc

The  Society  welcomes news items  on any  digital subjects  from
anywhere in the broadcast footprint. We know we reach ZL and many
South Pacific islands.   We are looking forward to news from your
areas to let other amateurs know what you are doing in the hobby.
Hope to hear from you.
73s de Pat VK2JPA Broadcast Officer 
That concludes ANARTS NEWS BULLETIN 799 06/03/94.
INSERTED BY VK2BQS (Jim)  Vice-President ANARTS.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)     VK2KFU @ VK2OP.NSW.AUS.OC     PGP 2.3
dave@esi.COM.AU           ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave    available

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Date: 7 Mar 94 21:47:00 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: copying cw on typewriters
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

MAHJMAC@DELPHI.COM asks:

>>If the only goal [of CW testing sessions] is to make
>>certain people are proficient in code, no matter what the means, then why
>>couldn't a decoding device that takes audible morse and converts it into
>>text be allowed.  In under a week I could develop a program for the Sound
>>Blaster or other audio cards that could do exactly that.

Because when you are shipwrecked and have built your CW radio transmitter
out of coconuts and paper clips, you won't be able to decode any messages
received in response to your distress call.  You have to know whether
someone is saying "Ship will be there in 2 days", "pse QSY have been on
this freq for last 10 hrs", or "599 TX qsl via buro, QRZ?"

Derek "May Day" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 

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Date: 6 Mar 94 23:08:35 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!sserve!usage!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: IPS Daily Report 06 03 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 6 March 1994
Summary for 6 March and Forecast up to 9 March
IPS Warning 7 was issued on 02 March and is still current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 096/043

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             07 March           08 March           09 March
Activity     Low                Low                Low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 098/045

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsettled

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 5 March
    Learmonth       08  2222 1233
    Fredericksburg  12                          06
    Planetary       10                          05


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST 
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
07 Mar    20    Unsettled to active.
08 Mar    20    Unsettled to active.
09 Mar    20    Unsettled to active.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
It appears that the expected coronal hole disturbance is
not going to eventuate, or if it does it will be significantly
milder than originally expected.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
06 Mar      normal         normal         normal         
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
07 Mar      normal         fair           poor
08 Mar      normal         fair           poor
09 Mar      normal         fair           poor
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Degraded HF comms did not eventuate.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 10 to 20% above predicted monthly values

T index:  89

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
07 Mar    70    10 to 20% above predicted monthly values.
08 Mar    60    About 15% above predicted monthly values.
09 Mar    60    About 15% above predicted monthly values.

Predicted Monthly T Index for March is 40.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
It appears that the expected HF degradations are not going to
eventuate.
-- 
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: rwc@ips.oz.au                          |PO Box 5606
tel: +61 2 4148329                            |West Chatswood NSW 2057
fax: +61 2 4148331                            |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:47:35 -0800
From: usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!insosf1.infonet.net!usenet.ee.pdx.edu!news.reed.edu@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>, <1994Mar3.144159.3607@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1994Mar3.185052.18759@oracle.us.oracle.com>com
Subject : Re: Further criminalization of scanning

Douglas Marsh (dmarsh@erpyr.us.oracle.com) wrote:
: In article <1994Mar3.144159.3607@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:

: -- Other Quote  Deleted --

: >
: >I agree, both with the idea that government is too quick to say "there
: >ought to be a law" and that scanner hobbiests are at heart voyeurs. That's
: >where the basic difficulty arises. Laws against Peeping Toms have existed
: >for centuries. Congress is trying to extend that principle into the wireless 
: >age, but they're making the same mistake here as they are with the problem
: >of violence in society. Banning scanners will be no more effective than
: >banning guns, and has the undesirable side effect of causing unnecessary
: >harm to legitimate users of these tools. The real problem in both cases
: >is sick and twisted individuals with no sense of morals or ethics, not
: >the hardware that enables them to pursue their voyeurism or violence.
: >
: >Gary
: >-- 
: >Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
: >Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
: >534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 
: >Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 

: How many people were killed by scanner last year?
:     Doug :~}

Private citizens stopped appoximately 1,000,000 crimes last year with
handguns. (Prof. Gary Kleck)

If only ONE life is saved, mustn't we maintain the right to own handguns?
        ^^^

How many crimes were stopped/lives were saved with a scanner radio?
(Better sharpen up the antennas on those "Assault Radios")

73's
Gene
KB7WIP

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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:46:44 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Mar3.153014.6322@arrl.org>, <1994Mar4.132650.9466@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1994Mar6.173414.5886@arrl.org>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Medium range point-to-point digital links

In article <1994Mar6.173414.5886@arrl.org> zlau@arrl.org (Zack Lau (KH6CP)) writes:
>Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
>: In article <1994Mar3.153014.6322@arrl.org> zlau@arrl.org (Zack Lau (KH6CP)) writes:
>: >BTW--how else does one improve a point to point link,
>: >besides using bigger antennas and more power?  
>
>: Ah, the DXer mentality at work. That's what those guys
>: thought too. The only problem was, that wasn't why the
>: link was flakey. The real problem was that they had
>: established the world's worst exposed terminal in their
>: single frequency network, and the link was being killed
>: by all the DXer's with 160 watt amps and beams trying to
>: make it to their hubs and capturing the link node's receiver.
>: It would be held off for minutes at a time by the continous
>: collisions.
>
>Actually, if you are forced to do it all on a single 
>frequency, bigger antennas and more power *is*
>just about the only solution (to improve the link).  
>The more directive antennas would reduce chance of 
>collisions, while more power would reduce the effect 
>of a collision. Admittedly, an *ugly* situation.  But, 
>politics makes it difficult to find other frequencies 
>that are those compatible with radios already in use.  

No, the better solution is to convince people to use 
*lower* power, and *lower* sites to reduce the exposed 
terminal problem.  40 db over S9 signals are not required, 
S2 is fine. The best solution is to use a separate non-
contending link frequency, of course.

>Yes, I know you could modify all the TNCs for some sort
>of optimized slotted Aloha protocol, but I doubt this
>is really practical.

Right, it isn't practical, and all it takes is one joker 
who doesn't want to play to screw it up for everybody.

>Getting links on clear frequencies is where microwaves
>show their superiority.  Not only is it more difficult 
>to fill the wider bands with wall to wall signals, but 
>highly directive antennas make frequency reuse more of a 
>possibility.  All that money spent on VHF bricks 
>might be put to better use on microwave transverters.

The price of a VHF brick might make a down payment on
a stable microwave transverter, but you still are faced
with the LOS problems. Cheap, narrow, stable, pick one.
As far as I know, the cheapest suitable microwave
*appliance* is the SSB Electronics system. It costs
about what a VHF kilowatt does. Gunnplexers are neither
narrow nor stable. (not to say they won't *work* for
some unimpeded paths, but you can't co-locate a lot of 
them in one of our bands).

>I'm pretty sure an analysis of the phone calls I've
>recorded would show that its not just DXers who run
>beams and amplifiers into their local BBS.  I usually
>end up spending an extra few minutes explaining that
>while a beam results in stronger signals, this advantage
>is often eliminated by the extra collisions that result.

Yeah, there are others besides DXers who think power is
the answer to every problem. And it's true that too little
power, or too low an antenna can create hidden terminal
problems as well. The overall MAN system has to *balance* 
to work well.

>I've found that an open wire fed *HF* dipole, even 
>though it is cross polarized, works a lot better than 
>an indoor yagi for packet work, because it hears more 
>stations than the yagi.

A nice outdoor vertical that hears nearly as well as
your BBS or node is even better. Especially when coupled
with the minimum necessary transmit power. (Phil Karn's
pseudo-cellular approach would be best *if* the average
ham density was high enough. Unfortunately, it's not.)

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 

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Date: 7 Mar 94 04:16:42 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!sserve!usage!metro!news.ci.com.au!eram!dave@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <gradyCLxxqM.IID@netcom.com>, <5220@eram.esi.com.au>, <alh-050394143621@twilight1h160.its.utas.edu.au>
Subject : Re: personal communication Australia <-> USA

In article <alh-050394143621@twilight1h160.its.utas.edu.au>,
    alh@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alan Hughes) writes:

| But you dont *have* to leave the header there, it can be deleted and then
| added back again later.

True.  I guess you could always leave the file un-armoured, and 7PLUS it
fot transport; all of which makes the anti-encryption laws silly, since
they're so easily circumvented.  Not that I've ever done it, of course :-)

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)     VK2KFU @ VK2OP.NSW.AUS.OC     PGP 2.3
dave@esi.COM.AU           ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave    available

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Date: 7 Mar 1994 16:23:04 -0500
From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@yale.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Feb17.144029.3459@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <rohvm1.mah48d-280294100619@136.141.220.39>, <2MAR199408091550@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions

>Just couldn't resist adding to his thread.  Copying by typewriter has been
>around for as long as their have been typewriters.  Even the FCC when it
>gave the test would let you bring a typewriter.  The computer is just the
>late 20th century typewriter.  The object really is to demonstrate the
>ability to receive code at the required level.  The mechanism by which you
>(as distinct from some computer program) write down the code is immaterial
>and not germane to the testing of code proficiency.  Not even the FCC is
>requiring a handwriting proficiency test at a particular speed.

>Erich
>N3OXM

As I was learning the code, I developed an application that would sound random
letters, numbers, or pro-signs, and I would then press the proper key on the
keyboard.  As a high speed touch typist (> 120 wpm) I found that after a
while, my fingers were conditioned to pressing a certain key in response to
a certain audible pattern.  When I then began attempting to write down
what I heard, instead of hitting a key, I discovered that I was not nearly
as proficient as I was on the keyboard.

But, you bring up an even different point.  If the only goal is to make
certain people are proficient in code, no matter what the means, then why
couldn't a decoding device that takes audible morse and converts it into
text be allowed.  In under a week I could develop a program for the Sound
Blaster or other audio cards that could do exactly that.

It would be no different than a person who can only decode morse if they have
a typewriter or other keyboard device available.  It seems to me that in this
day and age, it is so easy to develop inexpensive devices that could decode
morse, that the only reason to keep the test is to be certain people are
proficient in reading and writing without devices to assist them.

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