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Info-Hams Digest            Sat,  5 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  249

Today's Topics:
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 01 March
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 03 March
                              HamWindows
                   Help: Neighbor's CW interference
              Medium range point-to-point digital links
       Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... (2 msgs)
                    Tandy Model 100 and Baycom/PMP
                     Yaesu FT-2400 Recs (Thanks)

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Date: 4 Mar 94 05:01:51 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 01 March
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT

                                 01 MARCH, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT
---------------------------------------------------------

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 060, 03/01/94
10.7 FLUX=094.1  90-AVG=107        SSN=061      BKI=3132 1222  BAI=008
BGND-XRAY=B1.2     FLU1=1.5E+07  FLU10=2.0E+04  PKI=3143 2223  PAI=010
  BOU-DEV=031,009,032,014,009,012,010,011   DEV-AVG=016 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C3.6   @ 2230UT    XRAY-MIN= A8.3   @ 1947UT   XRAY-AVG= B1.7
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 2255UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 2240UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.0%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2355UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 1000UT    PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55346NT @ 1448UT   BOUTF-MIN=55325NT @ 2007UT  BOUTF-AVG=55336NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+069,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+131NT@ 1903UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-076NT@ 0628UT  G6-AVG=+091,+035,-027
 FLUXFCST=STD:095,100,100;SESC:095,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,015/010,010,015
    KFCST=2104 5011 2104 5011  27DAY-AP=015,010   27DAY-KP=1234 5421 1233 3321
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 28 FEB 94 is not available.
      The Full Kp Indices for 28 FEB 94 are not available.
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 28 FEB 94 are not available.
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 01 MAR is not available.


SYNOPSIS OF ACT
--------------------

             BRIEF STD SYNOPTICAL INFORMATION FOLLOWS BELOW.  THE SESC
       DAT
       THIS REPORT WAS COMPILED.

             Solar activity was low.  There were very few flares of
       interest.  The largest was a C3.6 event at 01/2230Z.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       generally low.  Additional C-class flares are expected.

            The geomagnetic field was quiet to unsettled over the last
       24 hours.  A few high-latitude regions saw periods of active
       conditions during the local night hours.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be remain mostly quiet to occasionally unsettled
       for the next 48 to 72 hours.  A coronal-hole disturbance may
       begin to elevate levels of activity on 03 or 04 March.

            STD: Event probabilities 02 mar-04 mar

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            STD: Geomagnetic activity probabilities 02 mar-04 mar

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                25/25/35
                        Minor Storm           10/10/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    01/01/05

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                30/30/35
                        Minor Storm           15/15/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/10

            HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
       Similar conditions should continue throughout the next 48 to 72
       hours.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WIT
--------------------------------------------------------
NO DAT


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 01 MARCH, 1994
----------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NO DAT


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 01 MARCH, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
NO DAT


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 03/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DAT


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
                 NO DAT


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 4 Mar 94 04:34:21 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 03 March
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT

                                 03 MARCH, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT
---------------------------------------------------------

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 062, 03/03/94
10.7 FLUX=100.9  90-AVG=106        SSN=122      BKI=3446 3222  BAI=023
BGND-XRAY=B1.5     FLU1=2.0E+06  FLU10=1.9E+04  PKI=3456 4122  PAI=027
  BOU-DEV=023,058,048,165,038,018,011,015   DEV-AVG=047 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C6.4   @ 1310UT    XRAY-MIN= A7.1   @ 0714UT   XRAY-AVG= B4.4
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 0935UT   NEUTN-MIN= -004%  @ 1830UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.5%
  PCA-MAX= +0.3DB @ 1425UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 0915UT    PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55343NT @ 0107UT   BOUTF-MIN=55284NT @ 0945UT  BOUTF-AVG=55327NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+062,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+124NT@ 2129UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-110NT@ 0831UT  G6-AVG=+083,+042,-042
 FLUXFCST=STD:105,105,105;SESC:105,105,105 BAI/PAI-FCST=015,020,020/020,030,030
    KFCST=3214 5122 3346 6433  27DAY-AP=008,024   27DAY-KP=1222 3232 3235 4434
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 02 MAR 94 is not available.
      The Full Kp Indices for 02 MAR 94 are not available.
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 02 MAR 94 are not available.
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 03 MAR is: 1.5E+07


SYNOPSIS OF ACT
--------------------

             Solar activity was low. Region 7682 (S18W40) continued to
       develop slowly. This region produced several small flares, the
       largest being a C6/SF at 03/0210Z. Growth in Region 7680
       (S12E13) has slowed. New Region 7684 (S08E25) was numbered.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       low. C-class flares are expected in Region 7682.

            The geomagnetic field ranged from quiet to severe storm.
       Major storm conditions were observed at middle latitudes
       from 0900-1200Z. Major to severe conditions were observed
       at high latitudes from 0600-1200Z. There is no obvious cause
       for this short-lived disturbance.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be quiet to unsettled for the next several hours,
       becoming active to storm due to a coronal hole.

            Event probabilities 04 mar-06 mar

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 04 mar-06 mar

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                15/20/20
                        Minor Storm           35/40/25
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/15

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                30/35/35
                        Minor Storm           25/15/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/15/15

            HF propagation conditions were below-normal over the high
       and latitude paths.  Low and middle latitudes saw near-normal
       propagation.  Conditions are expected to deteriorate on 05 and
       06 March due to effects from a well-placed coronal hole.
       Transpolar and transauroral circuits could see moderate signal
       degradation (to poor and occasionally very poor levels).  Upper
       middle latitude paths are also expected to see minor signal
       degradation during this anticipated disturbance.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WIT
--------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7678  S14W18  048  0020 HRX  02  003 ALPHA
7680  S12E13  017  0040 DRI  04  019 BET
7682  S18W40  070  0090 DRI  10  036 BET
7683  S18W60  090  0020 BXO  07  007 BET
7684  S08E25  005  0010 BXO  04  007 BET
7679  N02W56  086                    PLAGE
7681  S13W70  100                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RET
NMBR LAT
7668 N08   283
7673 N08   267


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 03 MARCH, 1994
----------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NONE


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 03 MARCH, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 03/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DAT


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
NO EVENTS OBSERVED.


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    000  ( 0.0)

 Total Events: 000 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WIT
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 5 Mar 94 08:58:08 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!well!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HamWindows
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

John Boyer <boyer@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk> writes:
 
>What is HamWindows and what is DX Desktop?
 
HamWindows is an integrated package of HF operating aid programs for
Windows.  It includes logging, award tracking, packet, prefix data and
almanac data (CIA World Factbook), computer control of HF rig, SWL data,
and more.  I just rec'd the brochures on it yesterday, and it looks very
impressive, but I have not talked with anyone that is using it.  I am not
familiar with DX Desktop.  The company that makes HamWindows has just
changed its name from California Software Inc to
HamWindows Inc.
2121 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #120C
Corona del Mar, CA  92625   USA
tel 714-729-4222
fax 714-644-6277
 
de John/AA2DY/jokent@delphi.com

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Date: 4 Mar 94 12:20:59 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Help: Neighbor's CW interference
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Alan Bloom (alanb@sr.hp.com) wrote:
: A better solution is to use what's called a "common-
: mode choke."  You can make one by wrapping the speaker wire many times
: around a ferrite rod (the loopstick antenna from an old AM table radio
: works well for this) or better yet, obtain a good-sized ferrite toroid
: core and wrap the speaker wire many times through that.

AM table radios are getting pretty hard to find (even junk
ones). What I've used *very* successfully are the ferrite
torroids from old TV flyback transformers. Any TV repair shop
will be happy to give you a burned out flyback for free.  The CW
op in question might even want to try wrapping a few turns of
the power cord to his transmitter through one of them. Some old junk
TVs also have huge ferrite "torroids" as part of their yoke assembly
too. 

Thomas Ki4N

------------------------------

Date: 6 Mar 94 02:21:17 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Medium range point-to-point digital links
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>It's hard to beat a stationwagon full of mag tapes for throughput. :-)
>Gary

i'll see your station wagon and raise you a van full of DATs or MDs...

bill wb9ivr

------------------------------

Date: 5 Mar 94 04:24:04 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project....
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Jeffrey D. Angus (jangus@skyld.grendel.com) wrote:
:  Well Conway, it would appear that you have shot yourself in the dick on
:  this project. Perhaps next time when you run into an obstacle, you give
:  some thought as to what the obstacle is before you run to the net and
:  cry rape.
Actually, Jeff, Conway did acknowledge thed fact that he probably jumped 
the gun a bit in his initial posting of the entire problem to the 'net.  
I know he did so because he did it in e-mail between the two of us.  
While I may be stepping a little over the bounds of proper netiquette by 
disclosing this here (aplologies if that is the case, Conway)  but it is 
important to know what is really going on before accusing someone of 
self-bobbitization (tm).  FWIW Conway did, as is now clear, work with the 
League along standard channels coincidentally with his post to the net.  
If Conway had not posted his admittedly premature announcement to the net 
he may have lost interest in theproject because he might not have ever 
realized how many people were interested in the project.  I think he has 
also added a few new volunteers to his roster as a result of this whole 
incident too.

:  After rereading your original messages and then reading the copies of the
:  letter from the League counsel, it is my opinion that you mad a lot of fuss
:  over nothing.

:  It is indeed unfortunate that that seems to be the standard method of
:  operation on the rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups.

:  Congratulations on one thing though, you did manage to distract from the
:  CW is Trivial war over on r.r.a.p.
Congratulations also on keeping the project alive.

73 es cheers,
Dan
--
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*                   Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu                      *
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Date: 4 Mar 94 14:13:19
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project....
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Jeffrey D. Angus writes:
>Well Conway, it would appear that you have shot yourself in the dick on
>this project. Perhaps next time when you run into an obstacle, you give
>some thought as to what the obstacle is before you run to the net and
>cry rape.
>
>After rereading your original messages and then reading the copies of the
>letter from the League counsel, it is my opinion that you mad a lot of fuss
>over nothing.
>
>It is indeed unfortunate that that seems to be the standard method of
>operation on the rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups.

This indeed can be one interpretation of the events and I am sure it
will now be the predominant one.  The entire argument stems from the
belief that the original format violated ARRL copyright in two areas
and that the material in the directory is shows sufficient
"originality" to merit a copyright.  On both points, I have heard
arguments on both sides.  Prior to the initial posting of the
database, I checked on both things and was told I was in the clear.
The ARRL disagrees.

In any case, I believe that there is a quote about hindsight and 20/20
might be appropriate.

I have been receiving sporadic flames (although far fewer than notes of
encouragement) over this project ever since it began.  At first it was
about the attitudes toward possible inaccurate listings.  Now it
appears that the new flames will be over my interpretation of a letter
from a lawyer.  Since you are so omniscient of the wishes of others,
would you care to take over the running of the project?  I am getting
a bit tired of it.  I started this thing as a VOLUNTEER project that I
thought would be a benefit to the community and it isn't all that much
fun.  I would be more than happy to turn over the reins to someone who
says that they can do better.

"No good deed goes unpunished."

--
Medical Image Processing Group     |                  Conway Yee, N2JWQ
411 Blockley Hall                  |  EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu
418 Service Drive                  |  VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA)  |  FAX   : 1 (215) 898-9145

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Date: 4 Mar 94 14:39:50 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!mam@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Tandy Model 100 and Baycom/PMP
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Has anyone figured out how to connect a Baycom/Poor Mans Packet circuit
to a Tandy Model 100?

I just finished building a Baycom modem for packet, and I'd just love
to be able to use my portable, non-MSDOS compatible Model 100 as a terminal
to at least receive those packets.

Actually, we've been trying to get the Model 100 to decode the signals directly
through the cassette port.  All we've been able to do is CW so far.  RTTY 
is next, unless someone has cracked that nut already ...

Thanks,

Mark KB2els
mccuistion@attmail.att.com

------------------------------

Date: 6 Mar 94 02:07:08 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Yaesu FT-2400 Recs (Thanks)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>>   I've been using a HT as my all around 2M rig, but
>>   have been itching to get a mobile rig.  I've been
>>   eyeing the Yaesu 2400H and now that it is $50 off
>>   ($299.95) it seems like it may be time to scratch
>>   that itch.
>
>>   I would appreciate feedback from those who have
>>   the 2400 as to what they like or dislike about the
>>   rig.  I'm also open to any other suggestions on the
>>   choice of a 2M mobile rig.   Thanks.
>
>>                        -- Rich N1QVT

   I want to thank everyone for their recommendations.
   In summary, except for a few very minor complaints
   (ex. somewhat flimsy "less used" button door, rig
   bigger than most, VFO knob a bit sensitive) the Yaesu
   FT-2400 was highly recommended by all who replied
   (ex. very well built, very tight front-end (intermod?
   what intermod?), really gets out, sounds great).
   I really appreciated the kind responses.
   Thanks again.

   73
   Rich N1QVT
   (Proud owner of a new FT-2400)

--
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Richard A. Cuti                        Voice: 617-942-2000 x3309   |
| TASC                                Internet: racuti@tasc.com      |
| 55 Walkers Brook Drive            Compu$erve: 76170,420            |
| Reading, MA 01867              Amateur Radio: N1QVT                |
|                                                                    |
|         (Opinions are strictly those of me, myself and I)          |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: 4 Mar 94 11:46:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <762531813snx@skyld.grendel.com>, <2kvqsu$r0d@ornews.intel.com>, <rohvm1.mah48d-020394123111@136.141.220.39>
Subject : Re: 5 by 5...

John E. Taylor III (rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com) wrote:
: This appears to go back to military usage during WWII (maybe earlier, but
: _I_ wasn't around to verify that), and a radiotelephone signal-report scale
: that was 1 - 5 on both readability and strength.  Thus "5 by 5" is a good
: as it gets.

I think there was a swing novelty tune from this era called "Mr 5 by 5"
(about a fat guy).

Thomas Ki4N

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:51:04 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!src.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro.dec.com!est.enet.dec.com!randolph@decwrl.dec.com
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <gradyCLsKtB.I3r@netcom.com>, <kmeyer.3b0x@bbs.xnet.com>, <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>ot.
Subject : Re: Further criminalization of scanning


In article <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>, weisen@alw.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld) writes...
>What I think we should do is write to our congresspeople and tell them why
>we feel the cellular and cordless privacy laws are so misguided.  Even if
>they outlaw the manufacture of scanners that can receive cordless 
>(and I haven't heard anyone say that that is what is up for debate -- 
>only outlawing *listening*, not manufacture), those radios are going to be 
>around for a long, long time as used equipment.

Been there, done that. My Congressman ignored my letter. The law didn't pass on
his watch, so, in the finest tradition of politicians, I guess he feels no
obligation to deal with it.

Amen to the long, long time. I just tuned up my old BC220 table-top scanner.
15 years old, 20 channels, and no 800MHz, but still not a bad radio if your
city hasn't gone to trunked public service.

>I'd be interested if other people agree.

Yup. These laws, if I'm not misinformed, are unique in recent history in that
up until their enactment, it was legal to listen to any waves passing through
your home, as long as you didn't act on or disclose what you heard. You are
now a criminal if you choose to *tune in* to these particular band segments,
regardless of what you do with what you hear. More such laws will follow,
since government and regulations never shrink in size.
-Tom R.   N1OOQ   randolph@est.enet.dec.com

------------------------------

Date: 4 Mar 94 11:58:01 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Mar1.165710.2145@dtint.dtint.com>, <2l2fk0$eqj@hpavla.lf.hp.com>, <POPOVICH.94Mar2125229@prince.cs.columbia.edu>
Subject : Re: QST review of Dual-Bander HTs

Steve Popovich (popovich@prince.cs.columbia.edu) wrote:
: The problem here, of course, is that the aviation handhelds are type
: accepted for aviation use, and the TH-78A is not.  It's against FCC
: regulations to use the TH-78A to transmit in the aircraft band.  If I
: had one along in an airplane and there was an emergency requiring its
: use, then I'd use it, but I wouldn't expect the FCC to be pleased.

You know, I always thought that the FCC was easy going on the rules
in an emergency situation. But I just read in 73 magazine that the
FCC confiscated someone's HT for calling emergency help on the
sheriff's frequency when help could not be found in the ham bands
(very remote location). (this news snippet appeared in the Feb
or March '94 issue of 73 )

Thomas Ki4N 

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