Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 23:40:42 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #241 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 4 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 241 Today's Topics: * SpaceNews 07-Mar-94 * 10-10# (2 msgs) 5 by 5... [Re:Yaesu FT530] Amateur Radio Newsline #863 25 Feb 94 Body Parts by J. Herman FT-530 vs TH-78A Have a say about ARRL policy (2 msgs) How Long Have You Waited? LOW BAND DX'ing book Mobile Phone ORBS$063.OSCAR.AMSAT QSL help pse SD RACES Net 94-02-28 Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Mar 94 20:04:16 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: * SpaceNews 07-Mar-94 * To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0307 * SpaceNews 07-Mar-94 * BID: $SPC0307 ========= SpaceNews ========= MONDAY MARCH 7, 1994 SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA. It is published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution. * AO-13 MODE S REPORT * ======================= With its new operating schedule, AO-13 is now seeing increased activity during its Mode BS and S periods from users of the 2.4 GHz transponder. With 4 hours available per orbit, listeners to the S band transmitter are enjoying strong signals and noise free reception. Antennas are mainly small dishes from 0.6m to 1m diameter although some stations are successfully using loop Yagis. With a 1m dish on receive and a single 19 element yagi on 435, good results can be achieved with 10 to 20 watts. Stations having good signals on 2.4 GHz last week included: N2IQU G0ONA ZS6JT VE3GTF JA7EC PT9FH OE6DGV TI5RLI VK6BMD [Info via David, G0MRF] * RS SATELLITE NEWS * ===================== The following information is supplied by Andy, RK3KPK, the operator of RS3A, the RS satellite command station: RS10: Operating normally in Mode A: 145.860 -145.900 MHz uplink 29.360 - 29.400 MHz downlink Autotransponder "Robot" .........145.820 MHz uplink 29.403 MHz downlink Very good activity CW from DL,YO,G, HB - (swl RK3KPK), Also it is possible to use special channel...145.850 MHz uplink ... 29.350 MHz downlink RS12: Operating normally in Mode K: 21.210 - 21.250 MHz uplink 29.410 - 29.450 MHz downlink Autotransponder "Robot" .........21.130 MHz uplink ... 29.454 MHz downlink Please send QSL cards for "Robot" contacts to RK3KPK direct (SAE + I.R.C.): Andrey Mironow, ul. V-Voloshinoj, d.11, kv.72 station Perlovskaya, 141014, Russia, CIS or via DF4XW. RS15: We are waiting for the launch of this satallite this spring. The main frequencies of RS15 are: Mode A: 145.857 - 145.897 MHz Uplink 29.357 - 29.397 MHz Downlink Beacon 1: 29.398 MHz Beacon 2: 29.351 (???) MHz Power beacons low/high....................... 0.4 - 1.2 Watt Output of transponder ....................... about 5 Watts Inclination.................................. about 67 degrees Height of orbit.............................. 2,300 Km Weight of satellite.......................... about 50 Kg Antenna...................................... dipoles Memory of RS................................. about 2 Kb RK3KPK would like to hear about your DX contacts via the RS satellites. For example, Andy had a DX contact with YV3... via RS6 in 1982!!! A QSL is fine. Has anyone had better DX? Comments to Andy should be directed via his packet radio address: RK3KPK@RK3KP.RUS.EU or RK3KPK@RS3A.RUS.EU. * DOVE OSCAR-17 NEWS * ====================== The DOVE spacecraft continues to transmit satellite telemetry and news items using an AX.25 packet radio format. Shlomo, 4X4LF, in Israel provided the following beacon reception: DOVE-1>BRAMST [02/20/94 19:33:28] <UI>: 19th Feb 1994 DOVE reports have been received from : KB4CYC KB5YVF KB7QLY KC1WD KC2SF KC3H KC4ZRH KC6ROL KB2BD KD4GAR KD4GHQ KD4SHL KD4UPF KD6NEW KI0G KM6JV KMA1JL KR5J KX7L LA5VX This will change in 3 Days [vk7zbx] Too bad they got my callsign wrong. :-) * FO-20 SCHEDULE * ================== The FO-20 command station announced that a slight malfunction in the onboard command system had been detected. As a result, analog mode operation arranged from 09-Feb-94 will be performed on schedule, but there is a possibility of interruption due to satellite ground station control. The present schedule is as announced before: Analog mode: 09-Mar-94 07:05 -to- 16-Mar-94 07:30 UTC 23-Mar-94 07:52 -to- 30-Mar-94 08:15 UTC Digital mode: Unless otherwise noted above. [Info via Kazu Sakamoto, JJ1WTK] * THANKS! * =========== Thanks to all those who sent QSL cards, letters, and messages of appreciation regarding SpaceNews, especially: KC1CO N2SMP * FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED * =========================== Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any of the following paths: FAX : 1-908-747-7107 PACKET : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA INTERNET : kd2bd@ka2qhd.ocpt.ccur.com -or- kd2bd@amsat.org MAIL : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD Department of Engineering and Technology Advanced Technology Center Brookdale Community College Lincroft, New Jersey 07738 U.S.A. <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>> /EX -- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD * /\/\ * Voice : 1-908-224-2948 Advanced Technology Center |/\/\/\| Packet : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: kd2bd@ka2qhd.ocpt.ccur.com Lincroft, NJ 07738 * \/\/ * Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -.. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 22:50:58 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!genem@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 10-10# To: info-hams@ucsd.edu : Anyone know how to find out my old number? : Mike AA4MW I checked the 10-10 server (209-781-1344) and AA4MW doesn't appear in there as having a number. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Gene Marshall \-\-\ email: genem@cup.hp.com | |Hewlett Packard Co., MS 42UN | Tel: 408/447-5282 | |Software Svcs & Tech. Division (SST) | ___o Fax: 408/447-5039 | |11000 Wolfe Road L^\<._ AA6IY@N6LDL.CA.USA.NA | |Cupertino, CA 95014 (_)/ (_) CompuServe: 75060,260 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 14:33:00 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!sandersm@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 10-10# To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Feb28.165221.5814@yvax.byu.edu>, sandersm@yvax.byu.edu writes: > I am trying to get my 10 10-10 nbers. I would apprecite it if someone who > has a 10-10 number just give a UTC time and 10m Frequency and I'll be there. > 73's Thanks. Chad.....KB7ZIU Thanks to all who replied. I have enough to last me for the rest of the year. Chad> ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 14:23:33 GMT From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com Subject: 5 by 5... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <gregg.68.000DC24B@plains.nodak.edu> gregg@plains.nodak.edu writes: > Where did the phrase, "I read you five by five." come from and what does > it mean. I know it means good copy, but what specifically does it mean? > Does it come from the early days of radar, of ham radio, of military > aviation or what? It comes from the RST signal reporting system. (I'll let others flame each other as to its orginations.) The scales being R for readibility S for signal strength and T for tone. (We're speaking morse wireless here.) R is from 1 (not readable) to 5 (perfectably readable). S is from 1 (I can't hear it) to 9 (It's really loud) and T for for tone with 1 (rough AC buzz) to 9 (pure note). Of course, with the advent of phone (am and ssb) operation they dropped the tone report. And as most DXers will tell you, "You're 59 LA" doesn't have any bearing on received signal, but instead means, "I want a QSL card." Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "You have a flair for adding Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story." Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:13:06 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!csd.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!wstaub@network.ucsd.edu Subject: [Re:Yaesu FT530] To: info-hams@ucsd.edu ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 1994 04:26:51 GMT From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #863 25 Feb 94 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The only thing I find surprising about this is the tone in Newsline that implies that the authors and editors of that rag seemed to think that so-called 'open' repeaters were under some legal obligation to accept all comers. It has *NEVER* been the case that a repeater licensee could not control who used his equipment. The letter from the FCC simply reinforces what has ALWAYS been the rule about this. It's not an issue of 'closed' vs. 'open', no matter how much Newsline would wish to cast it in that light. Anyone who thought otherwise was simply ignorant of the Rules. Must have been a slow week for news. - Brian ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 17:59:25 GMT From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Body Parts by J. Herman To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Waiting now for the headlines in the LA Times, Dateline Hawaii: "Deranged Professor detonates 5 pounds of plastic explosive in mens room on campus. Police sifting through wreckage are puzzled by the large quantity of black basket weave material. Several used condoms and a radio were also found at the blast site." Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "You have a flair for adding Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story." Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 14:36:13 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!sandersm@network.ucsd.edu Subject: FT-530 vs TH-78A To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Feb27.210832.5738@yvax.byu.edu>, sandersm@yvax.byu.edu writes: > I am debating on wether to buy a Yaesu FT-530 or a Kenwood Th-78A. I would like > to hear experiences from owners of both radios. I am new to this hobby and > would appreciate any info. 73's TNX Chad > Thanks for all the replies. It was overwhelmingly in favor of the FT-530. The radio is now on its way. Appreciate the kind responses. 73 Chad KB7ZIU ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 14:25:40 GMT From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Have a say about ARRL policy To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Feb28.170834.1217@pixar.com> bruce@pixar.com writes: > > In response to a "questionable" ARRL decision, I have formed a > single-topic discussion list on ARRL policy. Copies of the discussion > will be made available to various ARRL officials, to ignore or read as > they see fit. This effort is not sponsored or approved by ARRL, > although I am an ARRL member and a field organization candidate. The > list is open to all. > > This will be the only announcement of the list that I make to the usenet. > To subscribe, send mail to LISTSERV@pixar.com with this text: > > subscribe arrl-policy YOUR-NAME-HERE YOUR-CALLSIGN-HERE > How about a list of the policies you're support with the list. Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "You have a flair for adding Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story." Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 94 23:08:19 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!wetware!spunky.RedBrick.COM!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Have a say about ARRL policy To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Bruce Perens (bruce@pixar.com) wrote: : In response to a "questionable" ARRL decision, I have formed a : single-topic discussion list on ARRL policy. Copies of the discussion : will be made available to various ARRL officials, to ignore or read as : they see fit. This effort is not sponsored or approved by ARRL, : although I am an ARRL member and a field organization candidate. The : list is open to all. : This will be the only announcement of the list that I make to the usenet. : To subscribe, send mail to LISTSERV@pixar.com with this text: : subscribe arrl-policy YOUR-NAME-HERE YOUR-CALLSIGN-HERE Thanks, Bruce. I have ensured that several key staffers are made aware of the mailing list. I, for one, have signed up. I also have been known to pass along a post from time to time, as I see fit, or if I happen to see it. You can contact most ARRL HQ staffers by email. I will post a list in my next post. I also suggest that all hams with an opinion or suggestion about a policy matter make their views known to their Division Director. The Division Directors are listed on page 8 of any recent QST. You can also usually find your Division Director at most major hamfests or ARRL Conventions. 73 from ARRL HQ, Ed -- ----- Ed Hare, KA1CV ehare@arrl.org American Radio Relay League ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 94 00:53:44 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd. Subject: How Long Have You Waited? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I took the test with a friend around December 11th, and it took exactly 8 weeks to come for both of us. My brother took it a week later, and it took exactly 9 weeks to come. Hope that helps and good luck.{ Ian Jordan KC7ANP -- * * Ian Jordan * * KC7ANP ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 18:59:45 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.uoregon.edu!fp2-st-affairs-11.uoregon.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: LOW BAND DX'ing book To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Did anyone notice that the latest issue (March) QST now says ARRL publications is selling: "Antennas & Techniques for Low Band DX'ing"? It's described as revised and expanded 2nd ed. 1994 by John Devoldere, ON4UN. Looks like the wait is over! The listing is under Antennas & Transmission Lines in the ARRL publications section. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 94 00:35:33 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!wnelson@uunet.uu.net Subject: Mobile Phone To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am looking for a way to make phone calls from my car through my own phone line, not a cellular service. I have heard a little about 'autopatches', but have some questions. 1 - I this possible with half duplex on one frequency? if so, would the person on the other end have to dial some touch-tone to switch the base unit from receive to transmit, etc? 2 - Is there a charge for using ham repeaters. 3 - Would my best bet be to try to get a ham lisence? My only reason would be for the phone service. 4 - Could it be done with a CB? Would it be legal? What is the range? Thank you very much! -- W. Robert Nelson (wnelson@nyx.cs.du.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 13:34:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$063.OSCAR.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-063.O Orbital Elements 063.OSCAR HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX March 4, 1994 BID: $ORBS-063.O TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: AO-10 Catalog number: 14129 Epoch time: 94059.96429348 Element set: 264 Inclination: 027.2018 deg RA of node: 339.3804 deg Eccentricity: 0.6027104 Arg of perigee: 158.3802 deg Mean anomaly: 245.0891 deg Mean motion: 02.05875835 rev/day Decay rate: 2.64e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 8055 Checksum: 311 Satellite: UO-11 Catalog number: 14781 Epoch time: 94044.54889300 Element set: 664 Inclination: 97.7907 deg RA of node: 65.0254 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011279 Arg of perigee: 310.7761 deg Mean anomaly: 49.2455 deg Mean motion: 14.69144313 rev/day Decay rate: 3.63e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 53215 Checksum: 306 Satellite: RS-10/11 Catalog number: 18129 Epoch time: 94061.03883249 Element set: 877 Inclination: 082.9217 deg RA of node: 048.0362 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011441 Arg of perigee: 326.6023 deg Mean anomaly: 033.4997 deg Mean motion: 13.72331967 rev/day Decay rate: -6.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 33521 Checksum: 298 Satellite: AO-13 Catalog number: 19216 Epoch time: 94060.48894014 Element set: 888 Inclination: 057.8304 deg RA of node: 265.6507 deg Eccentricity: 0.7212956 Arg of perigee: 335.3196 deg Mean anomaly: 002.8602 deg Mean motion: 02.09730422 rev/day Decay rate: 2.88e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4375 Checksum: 318 Satellite: FO-20 Catalog number: 20480 Epoch time: 94046.42832899 Element set: 659 Inclination: 99.0216 deg RA of node: 221.3367 deg Eccentricity: 0.0539917 Arg of perigee: 255.4010 deg Mean anomaly: 98.6634 deg Mean motion: 12.83223845 rev/day Decay rate: -1.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 18851 Checksum: 320 Satellite: AO-21 Catalog number: 21087 Epoch time: 94060.95526134 Element set: 439 Inclination: 082.9416 deg RA of node: 222.0498 deg Eccentricity: 0.0035939 Arg of perigee: 023.9104 deg Mean anomaly: 336.4239 deg Mean motion: 13.74533695 rev/day Decay rate: -2.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15485 Checksum: 311 Satellite: RS-12/13 Catalog number: 21089 Epoch time: 94044.66379265 Element set: 662 Inclination: 82.9220 deg RA of node: 103.0678 deg Eccentricity: 0.0030946 Arg of perigee: 91.8517 deg Mean anomaly: 268.6203 deg Mean motion: 13.74034946 rev/day Decay rate: 4.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 15168 Checksum: 314 Satellite: ARSENE Catalog number: 22654 Epoch time: 93338.80803910 Element set: 243 Inclination: 1.4104 deg RA of node: 113.5274 deg Eccentricity: 0.2936576 Arg of perigee: 161.9838 deg Mean anomaly: 210.8642 deg Mean motion: 1.42202044 rev/day Decay rate: -8.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 299 Checksum: 278 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 15:34:47 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!kenman@network.ucsd.edu Subject: QSL help pse To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Haven't rcvd my callbook yet. Could some kind soul look these up for me? CT4UW P4ZGG (He kept saying Zero, but I assume this was for Z and not for 0?) Tnx and 73, Ken -- Ken Anderson N0ZEM Kenman@iastate.edu PH: 515.294.8996 126 Soil Tilth Bldg., Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011 ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 94 18:09:32 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!crash!telesoft!garym@network.ucsd.edu Subject: SD RACES Net 94-02-28 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The following outgoing messages were copied on the weekly SD County RACES net, Monday, February 28, 1994 at 1930 on 147.195+ RACES repeater. --GaryM Contents: #3 - Recovery Channel Information #4 - Training for RACES radio operators, Mar 26 #5 - SM & ASO Training Class Apr 9 #6 - Comm for SAR exercise #7 - License renewel reminder #8 - Water Dept needs ops to monitor dam & flood plains #9 - TAC-1 Newsletter Deadline #10 - Monthly SD RACES Meeting - speaker Bill Kahn #3 To: All RACES members From: Ben Green - CRRO (Chief RACES Radio Officer) Disaster Information and emergency information can be seen daily from FEMA and OES on the Recovery Channel. Broadcasting daily from 0900-2400 on many public access cable channels and available direct thru Keystone on Ku band satellite SBS-5 transponder 4, on C band Galaxy 6 transponder 7. #4 To: EOC Radio Officers From: John Tyler / DRRO (Deputy RACES Radio Officer) Plans & Training A RACES station operators training class will be held at the County Emergency Operations Center building 12, 5555 Overland Drive on Saturday March 26 from 0900 to 1200 noon. This class will be open to all RACES and ARES members. It is requested that all station managers inform their operators especially new members about this class. #5 To: EOC Radio Officers From: John Tyler - DRRO Plans & Training A RACES Station Managers and Area Staff Officers training class is planned at the same location and time on April 9, 1994. #6 To: All EOC Radio Officers From: John Tyler - DRRO Plans & Training RACES will provide communications for the Search & Rescue unit during a one day exercise on Saturday, April 23, 1994. Details concerning this exercise will be announced as they are received. #7 To: All amateurs From: Staff 0 (Bob O'Hara, SDSD Emergency Planning Coordinator) Time is getting near for those original amateur operators with 10 year licenses to renew them. Please check your expiration dates and make your renewel timely. #8 To: All RACES members From: Staff 2 (Gerry Sandford, KC6BJM, DRRO) Mr. Carl Bailey from SD City Water Utilities Department is looking for a minimum of 10 to 12 RACES operators to do dam & flood plain watches. Mr. Bailey will train the RACES operators for this task. If you are interested in this assignment please give net control your name, callsign and phone number after roll call. Staff 2 will call you and setup the training. [note: If interested contact me (KK6YB) and I will pass along your info] #9 To: All RACES members From: Editor TAC-1 Deadline for Spring 1994 issue is next Monday night. There will be no exceptions. Submit articles to John Pfingsten, KD6ACV, 1355 Max Avenue, Chula Vista, CA 91911-4511 or packet 145.010 KD6ACV-1 mailbox. All Strike Team and personnel interested in becoming Strike Team members should attend a special meeting at 1830 Monday 7 March at the EOC prior to the general meeting. #10 To: All RACES members From: Staff 2 (Gerry Sandford, KC6BJM) Don't forget the general meeting next Monday at the EOC 1900. Bill Kahn, the speaker from last month promises to put on a public safety radio presentation. (note: Bill Kahn is the communications coordinator for the SD County Sheriff's Department. EOC address is given in message #4) -- Gary Morris Internet: garym@alsys.com TeleUSE/Ada Development UUCP: uunet!alsys.com!garym Alsys Inc. (nee TeleSoft) Phone: +1 619-457-2700 x128 San Diego, CA, USA Fax: +1 619-452-1334 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 23:31:33 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2733@indep1.chi.il.us>, <rohvm1.mah48d-220294100035@136.141.220.39>, <1994Mar3.211105.26195@ve6mgs.ampr.org> Subject : Re: Probable demise of the online repeater directory project Mark G. Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org) wrote: : Explain to me why CallBook Enterprises is not suing Devon (for maintaining the : buffalo.edu archive) or Fred (over his work in the QRZ CDROM)? ... This has been discussed a number of times. They are not being sued or threatened because they purchased the data from the FCC. They didn't base tehir project on the format of the CallBook. Is it clear now? cheers, Dan -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa * * Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu * * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 * * Davis CA 95616 * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * All opinions expressed herein are completely ficticious any * * resemblence to actual opinions of persons living or dead is * * completely coincidental. * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #241 ****************************** ******************************