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Info-Hams Digest            Fri,  4 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  240

Today's Topics:
                                (none)
            Amateur Radio: Elmers List Quick-Search Index
                     ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
                    ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
                         Callsign server info
                           Ramsey DF-1 Kit
           Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... 
                             Used HF help

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Date: 1 Mar 94 12:08:34 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur Radio: Elmers List Quick-Search Index
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Posted-By: auto-faq 3.2.1.2
Archive-name: radio/ham-radio/elmers/index

Quick Search Index by Subject:

(Note:  This index is not necessarily all-inclusive and some Elmers are 
listed more than once.) 


AMATEUR RADIO EMERGENCY SERVICE        MAILING LISTS
  (ARES)/RADIO AMATEUR CIVIL
  EMERGENCY SERVICE (RACES)              Botterell (Networks in Emergency
                                           Mangement)
  Botterell (Networks in Emergency       Engehausen, et al (AA4RE Packet
    Management Mailing List)               BBS)
  Chilton (EMA Radio Officer)            Dodell (Land-Mobile Radio, 
  Engehausen (RACES Bulletins)             MARS Members)
  Fyodorov (Russia)                      Freeman, M (ACC Equipment)
  Humphries (ex-Asst. EC)                Hurder (ARRL Field Organization)
  Hurder (ARRL Field Services)           Kluft (rec.radio.amateur
  Magid                                    Working Group)
  Stader (EMAS SEC)                      Knapp, et al (Iowa State Elmers)
  Wilson                                 Prescott (Antique and Older
                                           Tube Equipment)
AMATEUR TELEPRINTER OVER RADIO           Meredith (PBBS Bulletin Forwarding,
  (AMTOR)/PACKET TELEPRINTER OVER          F6FBB Packet BBS)
  RADIO (PACTOR)/RADIO TELETYPE (RTTY)   Nerenberg (DX)
                                         Schleck, et al (College Clubs)
  Battles                                Walker, et al (QRP)
  Doane
  Feeney (PACTOR)                      MILITARY AFFILIATE RADIO SYSTEM
  Freeman, J (AMTOR and PACTOR)          (MARS)
  Graham, P
  Richards                               Doane (Navy)
  Sayer (also decoding CHU's             Dodell (Air Force, Mailing List)
    ASCII time code)                     Miller (Air Force)
                                         Monson (Army)
AMERICA ON-LINE                          Sargent (Army)
                                         Taylor (Air Force)
  Stader (Host,                          Welch, J (Navy/Marine Corps)
    Ham Radio Club forum)                Welch, V (Navy/Marine Corps,
                                           list of MARS members on the
AMERICAN RADIO RELAY LEAGUE                Internet, tentative BBS
  (ARRL)                                   conference)

  Battles (QST Features Editor)        MICROWAVE
  Bloom (ARRL HQ Postmaster,
    QEX Editor)                          Graham, P (1.2 Ghz repeaters)
  Doane (CT SM)                          Hammill
  Elmore (CO TC)                         Jahnke (SSB/CW SHF Contesting)
  Hare (Laboratory Manager)              Lau (Transverters up to
  Hurder (Field Services Deputy            24 Ghz)
    Manager)                             Sargent (3, 5, and 10 Ghz)
  Jahnke (VEC Manager)
  Lau (Technical Editor)               MOBILE
  Redding (Educational Advisor)
  Stader (EMAS SEC)                      Carruth (FM and HT's)
  Turner (Volunteer Counsel)             Hare (RFI issues)
  Wilson (SCV SM)                        Humphries
                                         Keller (HF)
ANTENNAS                                 Salmon (Maritime)
                                         Sargent
  Brewer (wire HF)                       Salyzyn (HF CW)
  Billson (HF)
  Brubaker (HF)                        NATIONAL TRAFFIC SYSTEM (NTS)
  DePolo (including VHF/UHF)
  Elmore                                 Doane
  Freeman, J (wire HF and 160m)          Elmore
  Graham, J (wire HF for                 Hurder (ARRL Field Services)
    apartments)                          Salyzyn (Canada)
  Halbert (simple designs)               Sargent
  Humphries (VHF and multi-band          Zurn (Europe)
    wire arrays)
  Myers (and transmission              NOVICE/TECH INSTRUCTION
    lines)
  Ornitz (including computer             Billson
    modelling)                           Bono (AutoExam/AutoCW)
  Potter                                 Carlson (Macintosh Hamstacks)
  Rymell                                 Chilton
  Salnick                                Knapp, et al
  Salyzyn                                Larson
  Standerfer                             Magid
  Stine (wire HF)                        Maia
  Stockton                               Myers (including basic
  Taylor                                   electronics and communications
  Zurn (wire HF)                           theory)
                                         Redding
ANTIQUE AND OLDER EQUIPMENT              Reeves
                                         Salmon
  Brewer (40's-70's)                     Stader
  Keys (including HF and CW)
  Prescott (Mailing List)              PACKET
  Moore, T (VHF)
  Standerfer                             Angus (TCP/IP, NOS, UUPC,
  Turner (including Kenwood and            Tnet, and SNEWS, IP
    Ten-Tec)                               Coordinator for CA - LA
                                           and SF Valley subnet) 
APPLE MACINTOSH COMPUTER                 Battles (AX.25 and TCP/IP)
                                         Bloom (IP Coordinator for
  Braun                                    Connecticut subnet)
  Carlson (Macintosh Hamstacks)          Braun (TCP/IP, Macintosh, IP
  Ehrlich (FTP archive)                    Coordinator for WNY subnet)
  Stader (List of Macintosh              Cole (TCP/IP and NOS) 
    Amateur Radio Software)              Dodell (IP Coordinator for 
  Van Peursem (Savant)                     Arizona subnet)
                                         Elmore (including TCP/IP)
BATTERIES                                Engehausen, et al (AA4RE Packet 
                                           BBS and Mailing List)
  Hammill (Sealed Lead-Acid)             Freeman, J (KAM, TCP/IP, NOS for
  Meyers                                   DOS and OS/2)
  Stuart (including Ni-Cads)             Fyodorov (AX.25 and TCP/IP in
                                           Russia)
CALLSIGN PROJECT/NATIONAL TECHNICAL      Graham, J (KAMterm)
  INFORMATION SERVICE (NTIS)             Graham, P (VHF)
                                         Knapp, et al
  Carruth                                Meredith (AZ Packet Coordinator,
  Lloyd (including QRZ Ham-Radio           PBBS Bulletin Forwarding Mailing
    CD-ROM)                                List, F6FBB Packet BBS Mailing
                                           List)
CIVIL AIR PATROL (CAP)                   Salyzyn (Canadian)
                                         Sargent
  Carlson                                Sayer (VHF)
  Moore, J                               Schallehn (Kantronics)
                                         Stader (TCP/IP and Macintosh)
COLLEGE CLUBS                            Vail (TCP/IP, TAPR/9600, IP
                                           Coordinator for East/Central
  Edwards                                  Massachusetts subnet)
  Knapp, et al                           Van Peursem (Savant and
  Schallehn                                Macintosh)
  Schleck (et al, Mailing List)
                                       MEDIA (PUBLICATION/WRITING/
COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT                     BROADCATING)

  Dodell (Mailing List)                  Battles (QST)
  Richards                               Bloom (QEX)
                                         Lau (QST/QEX)
CW (MORSE CODE)                          Moore (Co-Host, Ham Radio and More)

  Bono (AutoCW)                        PART-15 BROADCASTING
  Elmore
  Fyodorov (including Cyrillic)          Ornitz
  Keys
  Rosenfeld                            POWER SUPPLIES
  Salyzyn
  Squicciarini                           Myers
  Stine                                  Stuart
  Stockton
  Tescher (Computer Programs)          PRODUCT INFO/FEEDBACK
  Zurn (including European
    abbreviations)                       Appell (Alinco and Yaesu)
                                         Freeman, M and Shirley (Advanced
DIGITAL SIGNAL PROCESSING (DSP)            Computer Controls - ACC)

  Bloom                                QRP (LOW POWER)
  Edwards
                                         Billson
EQUIPMENT TESTING/TROUBLESHOOTING        Halbert (HF)
                                         Sargent (VHF)
  Billson                                Stockton
  Brewer (Tube Gear)                     Turner (including Ten-Tec
  Freeman, J (PC ISA Bus)                  Argonaut)
  Hare (ARRL Laboratory Manager)         Walker, et al (Mailing List)
  Myers                                  Zurn
  Ornitz (Instrumentation)
  Rymell (Electronics and Computer     RADIO FREQUENCY INTERFERENCE (RFI)
    Service Work)
  Salnick                                Elmore
  Salyzyn                                Graham, P (including PC's)
  Standerfer                             Hare (including Automotive)
  Stockton                               Myers
  Taylor                                 Stockton
  Tescher                                Witte
  Witte (Instrumentation)
                                       RECIPROCAL LICENSING/FOREIGN OPERATION
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ's)
                                         Andrews (New Zealand)
  Bloom (ARRL E-mail and Info Server)    Flaherty (South Pacific)
  Cheeseman (Australia)                  Fyodorov (Russia)
  Jahnke (VE Exams Scheduled)            Levine (Australia and Japan)
  Kluft (General)                        Salmon
  Salyzyn (Radio Amateurs on Usenet,     Salyzyn (Canada)
    rec.radio.info Moderator)            Stockton (UK)
  Stader (Macintosh Amateur Radio        Zurn (Italy and Germany)
    Software)
  Watt (Packet and Digital Modes)      REPEATERS
  Woods (Mail Order Electronics)
                                         Battles
HANDICAPPED OPERATING                    Chilton
                                         De Armond
  Billson                                DePolo (VHF/UHF)
  Doane                                  Graham, P (including 1.2 Ghz)
  Hurder                                 Keller (220 Mhz)
  Knapp, et al                           Knapp, et al
                                         Schallehn (VHF/UHF)
HIGH FREQUENCY (HF)/                     Witte
  CONTESTING/DX
                                       SATELLITES
  Battles
  Brubaker                               Bass (including low-cost, QRP
  Chilton                                  Microsat stations)
  Elmore                                 Feeney
  Fyodorov                               Flaherty (including OSCAR)
  Knapp, et al
  Nerenberg (DX Mailing List)          SEMINARS/LECTURES
  Rosenfeld (including practical
    QSLing tips)                         Humphries
  Salmon (including DXpeditions)         Redding
  Salnick                                Stuart (Batteries and Power
  Squicciarini                             Supplies)
  Tidd (DXCC Databases)
  Zurn                                 TANDY COLOR COMPUTER AND OS-9

HOMEBREWING/DO-IT-YOURSELF               Billson

  Billson (6809 uP)                    TELEVISION, FAST-SCAN (ATV)
  Bloom (including DSP)
  Carruth (Digital Design,               Chilton
    Software)                            Feeney
  Chilton                                Hammill
  De Armond
  DePolo (including VHF/UHF            TELEVISION, SLOW-SCAN (SSTV)
    design and construction)
  Edwards (including DSP)                Langner
  Fyodorov (including computers)
  Halbert (QRP)                        UNIX
  Keys  (Junk Box projects)
  Kohnen (Tubes)                         Carruth (System Administration)
  Lau (Transverters, VHF/UHF,            Cole (including Linux)
    Filters, repeatable projects)        Ehrlich
  Myers (Transmission Lines,             Freeman, J
    Analog and Digital Design)           Sayer (especially SunOS)
  Moore, T (Junk Box projects)           Tescher
  Rymell (Electronics and Computers,     Van Peursem (HP-UX and System
    Low-Cost projects)                     Administration)
  Salyzyn
  Stine (Tube Amplifiers,              VERY HIGH FREQUENCY (VHF)/
    Receivers, and Exciters)             ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY (UHF)
  Stockton (including QRP)
  Stuart (Batteries and Power            Battles
    Supplies)                            Carpenter (6 meters)
  Taylor (Tubes and Amplifiers)          DePolo (Weak Signal, Contesting,
  Tescher                                  and Repeaters)
                                         Flaherty (including Amplifiers)
IBM PERSONAL COMPUTER (PC) AND           Graham, P (Commercial Rig 
  CLONES                                   Conversions)
                                         Hammill (including ATV and DX)
  Angus                                  Humphries (2m FM)
  Bono (AutoExam, et al)                 Jahnke (CW/SSB Contesting and
  Braun                                    Weak Signal)
  Cole                                   Lau (CW/SSB to 222 Mhz)
  Ehrlich                                Moore, T
  Freeman, J (including OS/2 and         Richards (Monitoring)
    ISA bus)                             Sargent (2 and 6 meter AM and
  Fyodorov                                 Contesting)
  Keller                                 Witte (including Portable
  Tescher                                  and Mountaintopping)

INTERNET SERVICES                      VOLUNTEER EXAMINER (VE) PROGRAM
                                        
  Schleck                                Billson
                                         Carlson (W5YI)
MAIL-SERVERS/ARCHIVES                    DePolo
                                         Jahnke (ARRL VEC Manager)
  Bloom (ARRL Info Server)               Kohnen (W5YI)
  Deignan (Buckmaster CD-ROM)            Maia (W5YI VEC)
  Ehrlich (Boston ARC FTP archive)       Reeves
  Harding (Ham Server)                   Rosenfeld (W5YI)
  Shirley (ACC Equipment)                Salmon (Sunnyvale)
                                         Sternitzke (W5YI Asst. VEC)


--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu (personal mail)
elmers-request@unomaha.edu (Elmers List administrivia)

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Date: 1 Mar 94 13:55:34 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP008
ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
 
ZCZC AP22
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 8  ARLP008
>From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  February 25, 1994
To all radio amateurs
 
Solar activity was up last week, but so were disturbances.  
A major solar flare on February 20 blasted the Earth with 
enough protons to cause a major HF radio blackout on 
February 22.  The delay is because heavier protons travel 
slowly.  The Boulder A index rose to 42 on the 21st and 59 
on the 22nd.  The worst period was 0600z on February 22 
when the K index rose to 8.  Each point on the K index 
scale represents a huge increase in the disturbance.  A 
level of 8 is incredibly bad for HF propagation, 
especially in the higher latitudes.
 
There may be more bad news ahead.  If the solar regions 
that caused poor conditions four weeks earlier rotate into 
view again, we could experience more bad conditions around 
March 5 through 11, with the worst period around March 6 
and 7.  Solar flux should drop gradually, reaching a low 
around 90 during that period, and rising above 100 again 
by the middle of the month.
 
For the long term, expect solar flux to peak slightly over 
the next couple of months, before continuing the slide 
toward the probable solar minimum about three years from 
now.  In a year, average flux should be about 15 points 
lower than now, and 30 points lower in two years.  The 
current best guess is for the next sunspot cycle to peak 
probably in the Summer of 2000.
 
Sunspot Numbers from February 17 through 23 were 67, 77, 
54, 33, 17, 68 and 47, with a mean of 51.9.  10.7 cm flux 
was 106.4, 106.3, 108, 108, 105, 106.7 and 107, with a 
mean of 106.8.
NNNN
/EX
 

-- 
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    Marc B. Grant     Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
  marcbg@netcom.com      Amateur Radio N5MEI   
   marcbg@esy.com      
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Date: 1 Mar 94 13:53:12 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB SPACE @ ARL $ARLS011
ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
 
ZCZC AS55
QST de W1AW
Space Bulletin 011  ARLS011
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington, CT  February 25, 1994
To all radio amateurs
 
SB SPACE ARL ARLS011
ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
 
Anniversary for AMSAT
 
Congratulations to the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation 
(AMSAT), which celebrates its 25th anniversary on March 3.
 
In early January 1969 a small group of interested amateurs 
began meeting in the Washington, D.C. area, with the idea 
of forming an East Coast group to carry on the objectives 
of Project OSCAR (Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur 
Radio).
 
They decided to form a non-profit corporation to 
disassociate the group's activities from any of the 
companies with whom the members were employed, which 
included IBM, the Applied Physics Lab of The Johns Hopkins 
University, and the National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration (NASA).
 
Nearly two dozen interested amateurs attended the first 
general organizational meeting, held on February 6, 1969.
 
Just two months later, on March 3, 1969, AMSAT was 
incorporated in the District of Columbia.  The first 
public announcements appeared in April QST and in 
Autocall, a Washington, D.C.-area clubs publication.
 
Among AMSAT's founders (and members of the first board of 
directors) were George Jacobs, W3ASK; Perry Klein, W3PK; 
Jan King, W3GEY; and Bill Tynan, W3XO.
 
Today, AMSAT supports both amateur satellites and the 
SAREX (Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment) program.
NNNN
/EX

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    Marc B. Grant     Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
  marcbg@netcom.com      Amateur Radio N5MEI   
   marcbg@esy.com      
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Date: 28 Feb 94 12:27:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec3!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Callsign server info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Browsing through the callsign server, I came across the information blurb
about how updated it is.  cs.buffalo.edu is recent as QRZ!'s CDROM, April
1993.  Canadian data is believed to be 1992, no information about club
calls.  The callsign server at pc.usl.edu 2000 is recent as of november
93, so a half-a-year more up-to-date.  More information is available at
either server; just type "info" at the prompt.  BTW, the pc.usl.edu server
was ported by N5KNX from KA2NRC's server source to the Pyramid OSx, so that
explain's a previous post's revelation that the os's are similar.

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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:12:31 GMT
From: hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!richw@hplabs.hp.com
Subject: Ramsey DF-1 Kit
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

sherwin1121@delphi.com wrote:
: Anyone had any experience with this direction finding kit, and if so, what?
: Thank you.
: Sherwin.

I purchassed a DF-1 and one other kit (VHF receiver) at the same time,
and found each of them to be the beginning point of a learning experience.
So far, neither of them works to any useful extent.  I fixed one design
problem with the VHF receiver, but it still won't stay tuned.  I found
one potential problem with the DF-1 design, but haven't taken the time to
persue it further.

Suggestion:  Read last month's QST and get yourself a mailing tube and
some aluminum foil.  Cheaper and works better.

Rich
===========================================================================
Rich Wilson                                     Internet: richw@lsid.HP.COM
Hewlett Packard Company                                 Packet: N7WWU@N0ARY
Lake Stevens Instrument Division                        Phone: 206-335-2245
  This message is umop apisdn.  (Thanks, Don)

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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:59:51 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... 
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

What if....  everyone who is contributing to the discussion(??) of 
the ARRL and the online repeater database spent the time instead
putting together an independent set of repeater info for their
area?  I'd bet that the effort that's been expended on the
discussion would have gone a long way toward putting together
the independent database.

73, K7ITM

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Date: 1 Mar 94 14:27:20 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Used HF help
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

HI,

boy thanks to this group I have been having a lot of success obtaining
information for an upcoming article. 

I have decided to ask for some more help:

I would like comments/opinions about the following used gear in respect
to :
 known to be good/bad-special known problems
 special features/like filtering/processing
 options that are recommended
 3rd party availability of options/accesories
 parts/service availability
 ** current price range.

Rigs:
 Kenwood: TS520/530, 820/830, 430/440
 Icom: 735
 Yaesu: 101ZD, 102, 107, 757GX, GXII
 Ten Tec:Century 22, Argosy (I and II), Delta I, Corsair, Omni?

73 and thanks

Jeff, AC4HF
 

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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:44:12 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!cherokee!walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <rcrw90-280294091343@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <CSLE87-020394103111@145.39.1.10>, <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu>
Subject : Re: On-line Repeater Directory

In article <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu>,
Daniel D. Todd <ez006683@chip.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>Karl Beckman (CSLE87) wrote:
>: Likewise, but experience tells me that if the phone companies with all 
>: their legal resources LOST the US District Curt case protecting their 
>: claimed copyright of the contents of a telephone directory, the League 
>: stands precious little chance of winning, much less recouping the legal 
>: costs from the sale of their version of a repeater directory.
>
>One more time, the league is not saying you can't duplicate the work they 
>have done in the directory, the facts are the facts.  You cannot copy the 
>data directly off of their publication without permission.

FACTS are NOT copyright protected.  It is ONLY the overall presentation
of those facts that MAY be protected if a creative effort was involved.
The "sweat of the brow" effort of compiling data was specifically rejected
by the court in the white pages decision.  

Further, if the presentation of those facts does NOT represent some
unique (or otherwise obvious) arrangement, then even the overall
presentation is NOT copyright protected.  That is what the court said in the
white pages decision.


Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ             email via UUCP      bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays      email via Internet  whs70@cc.bellcore.com

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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:06:20 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!debmoore@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Feb11.001239.2842@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CL1p2x.8s2@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Feb14.135821.19246@ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Subject : Re: 40 meter QRP (cw or ssb)

Mike Willis (M.Willis@ee.surrey.ac.uk) wrote:

: I remember sending the word sesquipedallian recently. Quite appropriate 
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: if you look it up. difficult not to get lost during the word. 

: Mike

I just looked it up. Only one l(.-..). It *is* appropriate though.

73's  de Bob
-- 
=============================================================================
Bob Shilling                      Berkeley, CA            debmoore@netcom.com
KK6QQ                                                     rcshilling@lbl.gov
DoD# 1195

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Date: 28 Feb 94 23:00:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CLuJ6q.EwE@ucdavis.edu>, <1994Feb26.183908.15322@pro-haven.cts.com>, <1994Feb28.192256.25854@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Subject : Re: JARGON

Paul Flaherty (paulf@Csli.Stanford.EDU) wrote:

: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:

: >        Regarding ham jargon...here's a good one you might be able to
: >use...it's XYL and it stands for ex young lady....(which I take great
: >offense to as a deragatory remark (I am not an "XYL" because I am only 22
: >years old! :-)  )  The term is used to refer to one's wife...(because most
: >hams are of male gender and all...)  I think I might start refering to OMs
: >(old men) as XYM and see if they like that...:-)

: My wife (N6YBV) was never terribly happy about this one either (especially
: since she's *younger* than I am).  A little digging through some commercial
: CW abbreviation lists led to the the discovery of the abbreviation "YF",
: which is what I use (and advocate, if for no other reason than it's shorter).

I like it a lot better than XYL, too. I usually use YL to describe my
YL, even though she is not a ham (she got really wierd when I had a
name badge made up that said N0CALL!) I have tried using the term OL
to describe any licensed lady, but I finally figured out that there are
some ways YLs *don't* want to be equal to OMs. :-)

73 from ARRL HQ, Ed
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Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League

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End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #240
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