Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 08:09:04 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #220 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 28 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 220 Today's Topics: ARRL--->Online Repeater directory Electric Fence RFI jargon LOOKING FOR HAMS ON USENE New IonCAP Package New IonCAP Package supports MiniNec/Elnec output Nude Radio Amateurs (2 msgs) RB315 Semantics - Telecommunicators Rural telecoms info wanted Yaesu 2400H recs Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Feb 94 14:33:53 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ARRL--->Online Repeater directory To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The league publishes the repeater directory which it currently enjoys monopoly status. This must be enormously profitable for them as they are the sole source for such a directory, (maps aside). I wonder if they have priviledged access to this information by virtue of some role they play in the frequency coordination process? If this is the case, then there is a conflict of interest issue here, and they should not in the repeatern directory business and frequency coordination business simultaneously if they will harrass competition. As a league member, I feel it is the role of the League to encourage such innovations as an online repeater directory and callbook and should be providing these services to it's membership at cost or free themselves! I question how responsive the league is to the needs of the membership and to innovation. The league should evaluate it's programs for relevance and cost effectiveness. Is the code practice program worth the tremendous cost? Could that money be better spent setting up 800 lines for their BBS where code practice software could be downloaded? What would an internet RISC server cost to set up a server for callbook lookups, FTP, online repeater directories, packet gateway's, cellular vhf coordination (see 3/94 QST) etc. Ham radio has entered an age where these sorts of things are where experimentation is happening and as the central organized body in the hobby, the ARRL is the only group in a position to do some of these things. If they don't take a leadership role, some other group will eventually emerge to do this and they will have lost their chance to serve the hobby. -- Stephen P. Baker phone: (508) 856-2625 Lecturer in Biostatistics (508) 856-3131 fax Department of Academic Computing (413) 253-3923 home University of Massachusetts Medical School e-mail: sbaker@umassmed.ummed.edu 55 Lake Avenue North -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-. Worcester, MA 01655 ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 19:05:53 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!gilbaronw0mn@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Electric Fence RFI To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >I've got some bad interference on 80 through 10 >meter bands from an electric fence about 500 >feet away. The effect is very sharp clicks >about 3-4 per second. Analog noise blanker >works some but not 100%. > >Anyone have any cures? > >Tnx, >Ned Hamilton, AB6FI > Well, if you ground the fence, case closed. Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN "Bailar es Vivir" PGP2.3 key at key servers or upon request ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 21:41:47 +0000 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!golflima.demon.co.uk!GEORGE@network.ucsd.edu Subject: jargon To: info-hams@ucsd.edu How about PUNK? Long before the word was in general use it was used by hams to mean *bad* or *rotten*. -- Russell Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 94 11:33:00 -0600 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!bgbbs!david.gibson@network.ucsd.edu Subject: LOOKING FOR HAMS ON USENE To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have need to contact a number of hams, many whom may be USENET members. At one point we used to see a 4 (or more) part index of Hams on Usenet. Is I send a message to reqnet@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca to do a search of the list. In the body of your message, enter: return xxx@xxx.xxx (your return address) lookup smith w9xyz David * 1st 1.11 #1864 * ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 15:27:53 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: New IonCAP Package To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Skywave Analysis Package CAPMAN -- Computer Assisted Prediction Manager At last, a professional-quality IONCAP package that allows anyone to use the most advanced propagation routine interfacing with the ELNEC and MININEC antenna analysis gain patterns. CAPMAN is the versatile menu/mouse driven IONCAP propagation package developed by Kangaroo Tabor Software and the prime author of IONCAP. CAPMAN delivers IONCAP input file construction and management, two integrated execute functions, the ability to view and manipulate huge output files and display of multicolor output graphs. The package allows you to customize it for your own station -- painlessly. A full-featured location database, indexed on both country name and call prefix, provides access to over 490 prefixes. Each database entry establishes associated information such as prefix, continent, country, city, geographic coordinates, CQ zone, ITU zone, a 900 character note pad, forward and reverse azimuths and distances, and the current local sunrise and sunset times. CAPMAN provides management of "input records" through the use of libraries. Input records may be created, revised, renamed, copied, deleted and combined into "input files" for performing custom predictions. An extensive on-line help system is provided and includes documentation from the IONCAP user's manual. Sunset and sunrise times, for any day, are accessible through the use of a calendar that also displays the current Local Mean, Local Civil and Greenwich Mean times. The predicted Smoothed Sunspot Number may be configured and automatically set for the coming 12 months, providing quick one-step predictions. Many more features are provided in a "friendly" yet powerful "HF Analysis" package. CAPMAN is completely fool-proof for the most advanced or beginning user. Your contacts and friends may be added to the library and run any time with a few keystrokes. A wide choice of antenna routines is available, to be configured for your station, or use the antenna analysis computed using ELNEC or MININEC. Numerous output methods, including a "Long distance" model for the DXer, are easily accessible. The choices of output include MUF, FOT, S/N, Reliability, Service Probability, angles of take-off and arrival at receiver, S-meter units, field strength and modes of propagation -- many more -- using the Es, E, F1 and F2-layers for the HF bands. Graphs of the predicted vertical ionogram, MUF, FOT and LUF are available. This menu driven package features the newest "updated" full commercial version (LU9402) of IONCAP used by over 450 government agencies and commercial communications departments in the USA and more than 100 other countries. This CAPMAN package is a 32 bit version and requires an IBM compatible 80386 or above. For more information on the CAPMAN package contact: LUCAS Radio / Kangaroo Tabor Software 2900 Valmont Road, Suite "H" Boulder, CO 80301 Phone 303-494-4647 / Fax 303-494-0937 ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 15:42:37 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: New IonCAP Package supports MiniNec/Elnec output To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Skywave Analysis Package CAPMAN -- Computer Assisted Prediction Manager At last, a professional-quality IONCAP package that allows anyone to use the most advanced propagation routine interfacing with the ELNEC and MININEC antenna analysis gain patterns. CAPMAN is the versatile menu/mouse driven IONCAP propagation package developed by Kangaroo Tabor Software and the prime author of IONCAP. CAPMAN delivers IONCAP input file construction and management, two integrated execute functions, the ability to view and manipulate huge output files and display of multicolor output graphs. The package allows you to customize it for your own station -- painlessly. A full-featured location database, indexed on both country name and call prefix, provides access to over 490 prefixes. Each database entry establishes associated information such as prefix, continent, country, city, geographic coordinates, CQ zone, ITU zone, a 900 character note pad, forward and reverse azimuths and distances, and the current local sunrise and sunset times. CAPMAN provides management of "input records" through the use of libraries. Input records may be created, revised, renamed, copied, deleted and combined into "input files" for performing custom predictions. An extensive on-line help system is provided and includes documentation from the IONCAP user's manual. Sunset and sunrise times, for any day, are accessible through the use of a calendar that also displays the current Local Mean, Local Civil and Greenwich Mean times. The predicted Smoothed Sunspot Number may be configured and automatically set for the coming 12 months, providing quick one-step predictions. Many more features are provided in a "friendly" yet powerful "HF Analysis" package. CAPMAN is completely fool-proof for the most advanced or beginning user. Your contacts and friends may be added to the library and run any time with a few keystrokes. A wide choice of antenna routines is available, to be configured for your station, or use the antenna analysis computed using ELNEC or MININEC. Numerous output methods, including a "Long distance" model for the DXer, are easily accessible. The choices of output include MUF, FOT, S/N, Reliability, Service Probability, angles of take-off and arrival at receiver, S-meter units, field strength and modes of propagation -- many more -- using the Es, E, F1 and F2-layers for the HF bands. Graphs of the predicted vertical ionogram, MUF, FOT and LUF are available. This menu driven package features the newest "updated" full commercial version (LU9402) of IONCAP used by over 450 government agencies and commercial communications departments in the USA and more than 100 other countries. This CAPMAN package is a 32 bit version and requires an IBM compatible 80386 or above. For more information on the CAPMAN package contact: LUCAS Radio / Kangaroo Tabor Software 2900 Valmont Road, Suite "H" Boulder, CO 80301 Phone 303-494-4647 / Fax 303-494-0937 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 21:26:46 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ap164@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Nude Radio Amateurs To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I dunno--I got my special events QSL card last year from hams of the American Sunbathers Association when they operated during National Nude Weekend, and I thought it was a very tasteful card, as nude QSL cards go. Soft focus, geometric diffusion--certainly a MUCH more tasteful f card than (sorry about the typo, my editor is off) some of the ones I've received bearing buxom cartoon or real babes. In the almost 18 years I've been a ham, I have to confess that no one has ever asked me what I was or wasn't wearing-- actually, they might have been shocked--which is CERTAINLY more than I can say for the users of telephones! :) (hi hi) Cheers... Maria L. Evans, KT5Y "I would never belong to a club Columbia, MO that would have me as a member." mevans01@bigcat.missouri.edu --Groucho Marx ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 21:19:55 GMT From: news.larc.nasa.gov!grissom.larc.nasa.gov!kludge@ames.arpa Subject: Nude Radio Amateurs To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Feb25.074115.14979@bongo.tele.com> julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes: > > I belong to a group with higher purposes. We would never >transmit naked. Furthermore, we would never send QSL cards depicting >members in the buff. > > The Conservative radio amateurs always make sure they are >properly attired before engaging in QSOs. I always make sure I have on >a cute bra and matching pair of clean panties when I pick up the mike. I think that we need to start up a nude net. No checking in until you have _all_ of your clothes off, even that bra and that baseball cap. Surely we can find a frequency open on 40M. In fact, I think that this discussion is so much out of hand that I am going to get a friend of mine to photograph me in the nude, in the shack, so that I can issue my own nude QSL. No naughty bits will be seen, as I hope to have a large piece of E.F. Johnson equipment blocking the view. If more people had large boatanchors hanging around their shack, the way I do, there would be less concern about them being naked. So move that Continental out of the garage and take your clothes off. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 94 15:38:19 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: RB315 Semantics - Telecommunicators To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Bid: $RACESBUL.315 TO: ALL ES, CD, AND PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTORS VIA AMATEUR RADIO INFO: ALL RACES OPERATORS IN CALIFORNIA INFO: ALL AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS FROM: CA STATE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES (W6SIG@WA6NWE.CA) Ph: 916-262-1600 2800 MEADOWVIEW RD., SACRAMENTO, CA 95832 LANDLINE BBS OPEN TO ALL 916-262-1657 RACESBUL.315 RELEASE DATE: February 28, 1994 Subject: MGT - Semantics - Telecommunicator (5 of 7 parts) TELECOMMUNICATOR is a more professional title adopted an increasing number of jurisdictions for what they used to call DISPATCHERS. They operate the public safety communications centers public safety answering points for Nine-One-One. They should be made aware periodically of your jurisdiction's RACES program and how Amateur Radio phone patches work. RACES: The Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service. The RACES is a program established by any jurisdiction's civil defense official by appointing a radio officer, preparing a RACES Plan, and training and utilizing Amateur Radio operators. The latter are screened for loyalty and reliability prior to taking and signing an oath. The RACES is not a condition; it is a program and unit of local government providing public safety communications. Thus the RACES is not a club, association, or self-governing body. (Series authored by Stanly E. Harter, originally titled "From My Lookout". Edited for digital transmission. Continued.) ----------------- RACES Bulletins are archived on the Internet at ucsd.edu in hamradio/races and can be retrieved using FTP. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 19:55:54 +0200 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!ee.und.ac.za!csir.co.za!frcs.alt.za!tantrum.frcs.alt.za!paul@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Rural telecoms info wanted To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Request for information ======================= A major Southern African organisation is planning to deliver a "Rural Information Workstation", to provide access to information resources in remote areas. This will assist workers in health care, community resource centres, etc. A major concern is the lack of telecommunications infrastructure in the region. Some areas have telephone lines (usually impaired), while others not only have no lines, but are geographically far from any existing telecommunications infrastructure. Because of this, they wish to do a survey of techniques that can be used to provide a link for store-and-forward e-mail in almost all conditions. No one technology will cover the entire spectrum, so a heterogenous network will evolve from this investigation. The primary technologies under consideration include (but are not limited to): Dial-up telephone with PEP/MNP-10 Low-orbit satellite (LEOs) Inmarsat and similar geo-stationary satellites Microwave links HF, VHF and UHF packet radio "Sneaker-net" Any input on the technologies above, or any other technologies that might assist with this project, are welcome. This is not limited to commercial (or non-commercial) products, and ideas and suggestions for custom-built equipment will also be considered. In the case of existing equipment, however, information about cost and availability would be valuable. Any user experiences with any of the above, or other, systems will be most valuable, and will help them to determine the directions to investigate first. As always, time is limited, as the initial technologies must be chosen by mid-March 1994. Even a brief note, if there is no time for a more complete response, would be appreciated. -------------------- You may just have noticed how many groups this is cross-posted to :-). It is humanly impossible to check all of them for responses, especially as I have a limited and flakey newsfeeds. I therefore implore you to respond by e-mail, to <paul@frcs.alt.za>. -- Paul Nash network grunt and bit-pusher extraordinaire paul@frcs.alt.za PO Box 12475, Onderstepoort, 0110 South Africa ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 16:39:20 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!gilbaronw0mn@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Yaesu 2400H recs To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >Hi, > > I've been using a HT as my all around 2M rig, but > have been itching to get a mobile rig. I've been > eyeing the Yaesu 2400H and now that it is $50 off > ($299.95) it seems like it may be time to scratch > that itch. > > I would appreciate feedback from those who have > the 2400 as to what they like or dislike about the > rig. I'm also open to any other suggestions on the > choice of a 2M mobile rig. Thanks. > > -- Rich N1QVT >-- >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Richard A. Cuti Voice: 617-942-2000 x3309 | >| TASC Internet: racuti@tasc.com | >| 55 Walkers Brook Drive Compu$erve: 76170,420 | >| Reading, MA 01867 Amateur Radio: N1QVT | >| | >| (Opinions are strictly those of me, myself and I) | >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > I have had the 2400 (it was ripped off) and it was a very good radio. It has a very good front end and it has a lot of features. The negative side is that the controls are hard to learn and to remember becasue a lot of things are done with few buttons. It is also not very good for packet because you don't have any eay way to control it. If you use the microphone plug the speaker is on. You could plug the audio form the back and the controlform the microphone and then you have two places. I would recommend this radio very highly and especially if you are in an area with a lot of strong signals. It has an extremely good front end and it is a very rugged radio. Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN "Bailar es Vivir" PGP2.3 key at key servers or upon request ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1994 14:46:22 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Feb17.144029.3459@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CLL8pn.LAM@cscsun.rmc.edu>, <CLsIK8.FC2@pacifier.rain.com> Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions It would seem to me that being alowed to use a keyboard doesn't conform to the whole reason CW is required. It is used on an international scale, and if you are ever in any type of emergency or spontaneous situation where you need to receive code with no keyboard, then you would be worthless. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:54:35 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!zlau@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Feb26.153307.8030@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1994Feb27.012117.11788@arrl.org>, <1994Feb27.140958.12495@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Subject : Re: Medium range point-to-point digital links Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article <1994Feb27.012117.11788@arrl.org> zlau@arrl.org (Zack Lau (KH6CP)) writes: : Ha, Ha. The problem doesn't come with mounting the gunnplexer, or : even aiming them, the problem is making sure they're on frequency : and making rated power, and that the detector diodes haven't gone : south. Most hams don't have the appropriate test equipment, or the : skills to fabricate cheap alterative test equipment. Yeah, yeah, : a radar detector can serve as a minimal activity checker, but that's : not good enough to set up and maintain a legal and efficient link. You could be right about that, Gary. Maybe you can no longer expect people to fabricate blocks of wood to act as attenuators to see which gunnplexers work the best. I have to admit I cheat on this--if I stick a gunnplexer inside our screen room and close the door, the attenuation to one of the lab benches is just right for weak signal testing. Incidentally, if you are serious about getting on 10 GHz, the March 10 GHz contest results in QST list a number of stations on the band. : >One of the tricks to making microwave gear resistant to : >interference is to use horn antennas or waveguide in your : >input circuit. They make a very low loss high pass filter. : >The waveguide below cutoff effect is quite effective in : >reducing low frequency interference. : Sure, that helps, especially if you use *enough* waveguide. You : need at least a 1/4 wave depth at the frequency of the *interference* Where did you get this idea? I tried coupling two 10 GHz antennas, a scalar dish feed with 9 dB of gain, and a 17 dBi horn, and didn't see it on the spectrum analyzer (at least 70 dB of isolation below 110 MHz). I'd love to see a 1 x 1 x 2 inch 2 meter antenna that had no meaningful attenuation (size of the feed without the scalar rings). : to get meaningful attenuation. That is often in the 100 MHz region : because of colocated FM broadcast transmitters. Remember you've got : a simple diode detector in there that will respond to *any* RF of : sufficient magnitude, and one of it's terminals is exposed on the : outside of the gunnplexer. When the interference is at 10 GHz or : higher, the waveguide doesn't act as a filter, of course, and there : are thousands of 10 GHz emitters in LOS of a typical downtown rooftop The exposed terminal problems is easily fixed--you shield it, just like any other piece of electronic equipment you want to work next to an antenna radiating more than a kW. Unfortunately, even the IF circuitry of microwave gear has to be shielded, but this goes with the territory. But, shielding is trivial compared to trying to filter out a signal of nearly the same frequency. Thus, I don't expect people to have much luck using 219 MHz for receive on the same tower as a channel 13 broadcast station. As I said before, it doesn't make sense to try and do everything on one band--especially since we do have a selection to choose from. -- Zack Lau KH6CP/1 2 way QRP WAS 8 States on 10 GHz Internet: zlau@arrl.org 10 grids on 2304 MHz ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #220 ****************************** ******************************