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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #212
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Info-Hams Digest Sat, 26 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 212
Today's Topics:
ARLX010 Kepler film on tv
ARRL Repeater Directory
cannot access cs.buffalo.edu ftp
Hams on Usenet
INTERNET -- PACKET gateway!!!
Looking for QSL routes
New technical e-mail list created
On-line Repeater Directory (2 msgs)
STD.COM Good guys after all. was Re: Money grabbing SOB's...
Transformer Failure Modes?
WANTED: 8K RAM expander for VIC-20
XE1BEF (XF0C/XF4C) address?
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:33:54 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLX010 Kepler film on tv
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX010
ARLX010 Kepler film on tv
ZCZC AX42
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 10 ARLX010
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT February 24, 1994
To all radio amateurs
SB SPCL ARL ARLX010
ARLX010 Kepler film on tv
Kepler film on TV
NASA Select television will show a 35-minute film on Johannes Kepler
and his formulas for computing orbits on Friday, February 25, at 1
PM Eastern Time.
The film, ''Spaceflight-The Application of Orbital Dynamics,'' also
answers questions about launch locations and their limitations,
according to AMSAT.
NASA Select TV is available on some cable television systems. It is
available direct on Spacenet 2, Channel 9 (3880 MHz, horizontal).
NNNN
/EX
--
================================================
Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
marcbg@esy.com
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Date: 26 Feb 1994 02:02:17 GMT
From: koriel!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!exodus.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews2!rfm@ames.arpa
Subject: ARRL Repeater Directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2kij3j$h2e@news.acns.nwu.edu> rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan) writes:
>Consider the following scenario. Assume that there is no method of enforcing
>copyright on lists of facts. Also assume that it costs money to get a list
>together. In absence of copyright, no one will be willing to compile the
>list as they will surely lose money. This is because the moment they get
>the list together, others will rip them off. The end result will be no
>handy-dandy list for us to use. We will be worse off for sure.
This is a reasonable-sounding theory, but it doesn't match the facts as we
have them.
We *already* had someone willing to do the work of compiling the online
directory for no money. So it's clearly not true that we'd have no list if
the ARRL couldn't charge monopoly rents for it (which, at $6, they aren't
doing anyway!)
We also have plenty of evidence that people will still buy the ARRL Repeater
Directory, since they don't usually have a good Internet feed, or a laptop
with CDROM drive, in the car.
Sure, somebody could typeset the online one, have it printed up, and try to
distribute it--but the ARRL has the volume to get economy of scale, the
distribution network in place to get it out, brand name recognition, and a
captive advertising audience in QST. How on earth is a competitor going to
match that?
Rich
--
Rich McAllister (rfm@eng.sun.com)
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Date: 25 Feb 1994 20:14:45 -0500
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: cannot access cs.buffalo.edu ftp
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
jbloom@arrl.org (Jon Bloom (KE3Z)) writes:
> Jerry Sy (ah301@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
> : has cs.buffalo.edu anonymous ftp site stopped accepting anonymous
> : logins ? It does not accept anonymous or ftp as user names
> : anymore.
>
> Try ftp.cs.buffalo.edu, since that's where all the goodies are.
> --
> Jon Bloom KE3Z jbloom@arrl.org
Have you tried it using its port number?
cs.buffalo.edu 2000
Works for me.
Tim KD4OVM
g
--
Tim Wright KD4OVM | T.Wright@msuacad.morehead.edu | Morehead State University
| TWright@freenet.fsu.edu | Tallahassie Freenet Service
| AR098@yfn.ysu.edu | Youngstown Ohio Freenet Service
| KD4OVM@WSU.N8FOW.AMPR.ORG | Try one, I'll get it.
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Date: 25 Feb 94 15:48:43 CST
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!centurio.mavd.honeywell.com!skyler.mavd.honeywell.com!estey@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Hams on Usenet
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2kjb2o$s6h@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes:
> estey@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com asks:
>
>>>I have need to contact a number of hams, many whom may be
>>>USENET members. At one point we used to see a 4 (or more)
>>>part index of Hams on Usenet. Is that listing still published
>>>and available somewhere?
>
> Uh-oh, your name isn't Dave Rhodes, is it?
I fail to see the "inside" joke. The simple question stands. Where is
the Hams on Usenet list?
Carl
______________________________________________________________________________
Carl Estey | Home Mail Address: 276 Walnut Lane
Amateur Callsign: WA0CQG | Apple Valley, MN 55124
| Business Address: Honeywell Inc.
Phone: Work (612) 954-7630 | Flight Systems & Test Operations M/S MN15-2370
FAX (612) 954-7495 | 1625 Zarthan Ave. S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416
Home (612) 432-0699 | Packet: WA0CQG @ WA0CQG.#MSP.MN.USA.NA
The nonsense here is of my own making - no one else would want credit!
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Date: 25 Feb 94 11:00:38 CST
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!cdsmail!timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!cherry10!dadams@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: INTERNET -- PACKET gateway!!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article CH1@netcom.com, wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes:
> This probably should be in an FAQ file.
>
> There shouldn't be any real problem with mail from Packet TO internet,
> but the problem lies with the internet TO packet direction. Problem
> is to do with FCC rules. No dirty words are allowed on packet, and
> many forms of commercial or business related messages are not allowed
> eighter. Not sure if you can order a pizza by packet, though. :-)
>
> Basically, this means that someone has to be a moderator and read all
> the mail going to packet. I doubt anyone's got that much time with
> nothing better to do. You could have a computer reject or remove all
> dirty words, but business/commercial related mail would need a human.
Well if computers can check grammar these days, they could probably do
a pretty good job of picking out posts that are business oriented. The
problem here probably is that they would reject many posts that were
not really business oriented in the process due to similarity of language
constructs. However this does not seem to be too high of a price to pay.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(Oops! This message probably wouldn't make it
through. ;^)
Identifying obscene material might be a little more difficult than
simply filtering bad language.
Perhaps a newsgroup that was monitored could be linked to a packet
repeater? The group monitor could be the control operator for the
first repeater for that matter?
---
Sourdough and Ham AA0PV
--David C. Adams internet: dadams@cray.com
Statistician uunet: uunet!cray!dadams
Cray Research Inc. packet: kg0io@tcman.#msp.mn.usa.noam
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them." -- Albert Einstein.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:14:03 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!n1ist@network.
Subject: Looking for QSL routes
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am trying to catch up on my QSLing, and was wondering if anyone has any
QSL info for any of the following. Thanks in advance.
/mike
9Z4PC
C51A
CQ3H
CR3M
EA8AH
GI0SAP
HI8OMA
IU4U
LY5A
OH3PM
OT3K
PA3FNE
PI4TUE
PR4B
UW2F
V26B
V44NK
VP2EJ
VP2EJ
VP2VFP
VY9QR
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\|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST Teradyne ATG Boston
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/|\ ardai@maven.dnet.teradyne.com n1ist@netcom.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 22:41:08 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wy1z@seismo.css.gov
Subject: New technical e-mail list created
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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Date: 25 Feb 1994 21:44:15 GMT
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!@mvb.saic.com
Subject: On-line Repeater Directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Just because there's an online repeater directory out there doesn't mean
that there's no market for the ARRL Repeater Directory. As stated prev-
iously, who really wants to carry around a bunch of 8-1/2 x 11 inch
sheets of paper, anyway?
All of you people out there - have you seen that incredibly neat repeater
MAP book out there? It shows up at hamfests all the time, and MANY times
have I considered getting a copy, because it's a lot easier to look at
a map, compare it to your road map, and SEE what repeaters may be within
range. The ARRL seems to not be too worried about that one, and it
probably isn't cutting into the league's profits too much.
So why worried about this one?
I am in the process of becoming a life member, and I'm proud of what the
ARRL does for its members, but,
Hey, ARRL, this guy's trying to do something useful. Get off his case.
Howzabout he SHARES the project with you? Then you get to keep the
ever-so-precious data, AND people can still utilize the online DB!
--
73, _________ _________ The
\ / Long Original
Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 00:22:26 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: On-line Repeater Directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Bob Levine (levine@mc.com) wrote:
: Anyway, it is pretty inconvenient to log into an FTP site
: while you're doing 55 ;-) to find the local repeater frequency.
But I'd use the database to print out a list in the format
I wanted. Often I want it for a medium-sized area listed by
frequency, not by arbitrary town. I find the ARRL directory to
be very inconsistent in this regard.
: BFD to shell out $6 per year?
For me it's not the $, it the lack of usefulness, ultimately.
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Date: 26 Feb 1994 01:57:59 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!udel!news.udel.edu!diusys.cms.udel.edu!walt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: STD.COM Good guys after all. was Re: Money grabbing SOB's...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I apologize to the folks at STD.COM for calling them names. As
I said in another post, I was not feeling good this morning and
misinterpreted the messages their anonymous ftp site sent me
before I got kicked off. I assume they were either having
problems, or doing backups, and I jumped to the wrong conclusion.
They do have a very nicely organized section in their anonymous
ftp site (ftp.std.com) with amateur radio specific topics. Which
is why I was trying to get to them in the first place.:-)
--
Walt Dabell "clueless asshole of the week" (and proud of it!)
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Date: 25 Feb 1994 23:11:42 GMT
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!@@mvb.saic.com
Subject: Transformer Failure Modes?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The proverbial friend of mine has two transformers. They are 110/220 VAC
input, 50 VAC output and rated at 15 amps.
He needs 25 volts, not 50. The obvious solution is to feed 110 into the
220 input windings.
Question: Do we have to de-rate the output current to 7.5 amps?
Speculation:
I doubt the I**2 * R heating of the windings is an issue here. What about
saturation of the core? Or saturation of the core? Eddy current heating?
My first inclination is to de-rate the output current using the transformer.
Any advice? We can't be the first people to do this. :-)
73.
--
Mark Bailey KD4D Motto: Life's too short to drink cheap beer.
mebly@glue.umd.edu Disclaimer: I didn't really say this.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 21:48:09 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!Melick-Richard.tuliptree.indiana.edu!rmelick@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: WANTED: 8K RAM expander for VIC-20
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Please E-Mail me with price and terms.
Thank You,
Rick
rmelick@indiana.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 22:36:50 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!slay@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: XE1BEF (XF0C/XF4C) address?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am looking for the address for XE1BEF.
I believe he is the QSL route for both XF0C of a couple of years ago
as well as the recent XF4C operation (2/20/94).
Thanks de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV slay@netcom.com or WA6BXH@N0ARY
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:32:33 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!jmaynard@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2kdqco$7lq@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, <D>, <1994Feb23.221648.9890@picker.com>
Subject : Re: Dayton parking
In article <1994Feb23.221648.9890@picker.com>,
ALAN CUNNINGHAM <CUNNINGHAM_A@whqvax.picker.com> wrote:
>I among other DXers (actually my DXCC count is very close to my weight
>as I approach Honor Roll) could lose a few pounds.
[..]
>You do get some dirty looks with a Johnson Viking II straddled
>on your lap, though.
Things that make you go hmmmmm......
(Then again, who am I to complain? My DXCC count is nowhere near my weight...)
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
"The difference between baseball and politics is that, in baseball, if you
get caught stealing, you're out!" -- Ed Shanks
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 19:32:16 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CLr3yv.K29@avalon.chinalake.navy.mil>, <YEE.94Feb24201001@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu>, <CLsFz8.DLF@ucdavis.edu>r.cc
Subject : Re: online rpt idea
In article <CLsFz8.DLF@ucdavis.edu>,
Daniel D. Todd <ez006683@chip.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>I will be happy to begin the posts with the local machines I use.
>I don't know if there is really a need to start a new newsgroup. We could
>just use a subject line begining with REPEATERS: or something. One
>suggestion would be to break up the inforamtion in a different geographic
>format. I really don't like trying to find a UHF repeater in So. Cal.
>with the ARRL directory. This project could be much more accurate than
>the ARRL directory because they only publish what they are given. If a
>repeater owner wants to see his name in the book they can publish
>incorrect PL's and increase the difficulty in accessing the machine. The
>database could also be updated. Perhaps even a comment area for bringing
>up public autopatches etc.
How about providing the grid square location as a locator. That would sure
make things easier to look up for a given route one might be planning
on driving through.
Since most repeaters (at least the 2m nes) cover areas in excess of
the grid square they are located in, using a grid square location
would, I think, offer an interesting and useful approach.
As a concluding note, I again offer the information that no one can
copyright specific facts. The FACT that the K2GDD repeater on
146.895 is located in Morristown, NJ and is an open repeater is
purely factual data that is not protected by any copyright. As such,
gathering such data (IMHO) from any source to populate a software
database that is not printed out in any format resembling an existing
printed directory, would not (again, by my layman interpretation)
be a copyright violation. Think about it...if it was, then once
a directory was created by anyone, then no on else would be able
to create another database using the same information. That's
just not the case. Almanacs contain lots of information as
reference sources. A chronological list of US president with the
dates they served is not anything protectable by copyright.
Just my .02.
An online repeater data base...I hope so.
Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:34:43 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!jmaynard@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <rohvm1.mah48d-220294100035@136.141.220.39>, <tcjCLpvwz.M5C@netcom.com>, <gregCLqFq0.5w8@netcom.com>nyx1
Subject : Re: Probable demise of the online repeater directory project
In article <gregCLqFq0.5w8@netcom.com>, Greg Bullough <greg@netcom.com> wrote:
> 2. There is one hell of a conflict-of-interest if the
> ARRL wants to, at once, act as the official frequency
> coordination authority, and then be proprietary with
> the information which it collects. As a matter of
> fact, it would seem that there is an unfair competitive
> advantage.
Uh, Greg...hate to burst your bubble, but the ARRL _isn't_ the official
frequency coordination authority. It has explicitly avoided accepting that
role.
As much as I would like to see that change, it's not doing it now.
As for the bit about "unfair competitive advantage", wasn't Conway rekeying
the data straight from the repeater directory to disk? If so, that _is_ a
copyright violation. They can't copyright the facts, but they can copyright
the collection of facts into a whole. Just ask Compuserve.
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
"The difference between baseball and politics is that, in baseball, if you
get caught stealing, you're out!" -- Ed Shanks
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:12:59 +0000
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!raynet.demon.co.uk!Gregm@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <761607000snz@raynet.demon.co.uk>, <2kgbm8$t15@ornews.intel.com>, <1994Feb25.083127.1419@physc1.byu.edu>et.demon
Reply-To : Gregm@raynet.demon.co.uk
Subject : Re: Help - Need ARES Packet Software.
Bryan,
my thanks to you for moving this program to a more accessible area & to
everyone else on the net who has assisted me in my search. I've downloaded it,
unzipped it, now all we have got to do is make it work :-) !
Thanks & 73,
--
+-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+
| Greg Mossop G0DUB | 'Even logic must give way to physics' |
| Internet: Gregm@raynet.demon.co.uk | - Spock - Star Trek VI |
+--------------------PGP 2.3a key available at key servers--------------------+
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