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Info-Hams Digest            Fri, 25 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue  204

Today's Topics:
                       ARRL Repeater Directory
                       Clubstations in Ukraine
                       Dumming down of A.Radio
                        Getting Coax Seal OFF?
                           IPS Daily Report
                 Need info on RAMSEY FX remote tuner
                          Need TR-9000 info
              New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95
                       Super Morse 4.10 is out!
                         Travelling to Egypt
                            used gear info
           West Coast Live - News Digest February 23 1994 

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 14:51:23 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!att-out!walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
Subject: ARRL Repeater Directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <CLp1KE.Iz@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, Tom Bruhns <tomb@lsid.hp.com> wrote:
>William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM wrote:
>
>: I have a real big problem with the idea that there are deliberate errors 
>: purposely induced into what should be a reference book.  Maybe we should start
>: a "repeater directory accuracy project" to confirm all the listings in the 
>: ARRL directory to see if content errors exist.

My following post includes a layman's set of interpretations/opinions
relative to some legal issues...Bottom line, I'm not a lawyer, but
here's my opinion, treat it accordingly.

First, I'm an ARRL member and a Local Gov't Liason (LGL) in the ARRL field
organization, but that doesn't mean I agree with all positions of ARRL.
I missed the initial thread of this discussion,but from the two recent
posts it appears ARRL has threatened legal action against someone
providing (or intending to provide) an "online" version of a repeater
directory.  It also appears that ARRL has determined that some of
the data included in this "online" directory must have been taken
from the ARRL Repeater Directory because there are certain
identical pieces of data that were created (e.g. a deliberate
misspelling of a town name, callsign, etc.) as such in the ARRL
publlished directory to use as a means of identifying data from
the ARRL directory which has been used to create other databases.
The ARRL then claims that using that information is a violation of
their copyright on their Repeater Directory.

Hopefully I've expressed the above correctly...now I delve into my
opinion.  Several years ago an almost identical situation arose
having to do with an "independent" telephone white pages provider
who used the white pages of one of the regional telephone companies
as the source for the independent's white pages.  The independent
first approached the telephone company and asked to purchase an electronic
copy for the purpose, but the telephone company refused.  The 
independent then just had all the data manually keypunched into its own
database from an actual "hard copy" of the white pages.
The telephone company was able to "prove" that the independent white
page provider used the telco white pages because they had populated
the telco white pages with certain "bogus" entries for that express
purpose.  Not knowing of which entries were bogus, the bogus entries
were readily found in the white pages of the independent white
pages.  The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court.

The final resolve of the case was that the white pages was NOT
protected by copyright because it was nothing more than a factual
listing of data that was arranged alphabetically.  Factual
information (e.g. my name, address & phone number) can not be
copyrighted and the court decision said that a simple
alphabetical sort/listing of that data did NOT represent a
compilation that would be protectable by copyright.  Thus there
is precident for using data from any source (factual data that is)
in another database if there is a valid argument that the data
as presented in the newly created database is either (1) not
of any particularly creative arrangement (e.g. alphabetical, arranged
by state, town, etc.) or (2) is arranged in a different arrangement
(creatively speaking) than the data as presented in the original
database (e.g. the ARRL Repeater Guide).

So, for this specific situation, it seems to me that all the
individual data about any given repeater is not copyrightable
by itself (e.g. input/output freq., location, callsign, attributes,
etc.) and it is only the total compilation of that data for
all the repeaters in a directory that
MAY be copyrightable as a total work where the copyright protects
a uniquely creative way of presenting the data (simple
electronic sorts by band, state, and location don't...IMHO...seem
to be a good example of a creative presentation).  

Just my opinion.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ             email via UUCP      bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays      email via Internet  whs70@cc.bellcore.com

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Date: 24 Feb 1994 15:14:38 GMT
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!cnn.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!nac.no!trane.uninett.no!@mvb.saic.com
Subject: Clubstations in Ukraine
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 Hi, 
    I'm planning to stay in Kiev, Ukraine, this summer as an exchange student.
I'd really like to get in contact with amateurs - especially club stations -
which I can visit during my time there.

If anybody could point me to the right persons to contact, I'd appreciate it.

             Thanks, 


             Kenneth, LA7GIA.



             

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Date: 24 Feb 94 14:52:31 EDT
From: hayes!bcoleman@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Dumming down of A.Radio
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <gdavis.761932155@griffin>, gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis) writes:

[ Hmm. I think he meant "dumbing"  in the subject. ]

> I'm not talking about typos... we all make these... without an editor or
> the time to proof.

Well, if you are going to critique the writing of others, it is best to get
your own house in order. Don't make those typos. Be more careful.

Otherwise, you might as well just live and let live.

> I had one idiot on packet jump all over me for typos of a minor   
> punctuation ommission. Then go one in this one 200 byte diatribe to
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If there's a typo here, I can't figure it out. You're talking about something
having to do with a message your received, but I can't find a simple way to
edit what you sent to make it grammatically correct.

> spell grammar (grammer) and lose  as (loose).

I see lose as loose all the time. Really burns me up. 

> You would have though that this idiot,who was so intent on drawing
> attention to construction, grammar, and punctuation errors would have
> gone to the trouble to check his own!

Likewise.

-- 
Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

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Date: 24 Feb 1994 14:07:12 -0500
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!digex.net!access3!ericr@ames.arpa
Subject: Getting Coax Seal OFF?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Can anyone suggest a decent method for taking Coax Seal *off* of a 
connector?  It's a mess, and I'm not sure how to do it.

Please email your repsonses...

Thanks --
Eric


--
Eric Rosenberg    WD3Q, EI4VPS, ZL0ADG, J20BY, etc.
338 14th Street, NE   voice: +202-547-3441
Washington, DC 20002  USA  fax:   +202-547-3613
ericr@access.digex.com   wd3q@amsat.org

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:05:59 GMT
From: agate!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!merlin!mel.dit.csiro.au!its.csiro.au!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!ipso!rwc@ames.arpa
Subject: IPS Daily Report
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 21 February 1994
Summary for 21 February and Forecast up to 24 February
IPS Warning 06 was issued on 17 Feb and is current for
interval 20-23 Feb.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 105/054

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             22 February        23 February        24 February
Activity     Low                Low                Low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 105/054

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : major storm

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 20 February
    Learmonth       45  2126 6664
    Fredericksburg  54                          13
    Planetary       60                          13


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST 
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
22 Feb    50    Minor storm.
23 Feb    35    Active to minor storm.
24 Feb    20    Active to minor storm.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Shock in field was observed at 0900Z 135nT. Major storm levels
observed after shock. Shock due to M4 flare.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
21 Feb      fair-normal    fair-normal    poor-fair      
PCA Event : In progress.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
             LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH 
22 Feb      poor           poor           poor
23 Feb      fair           poor           poor
24 Feb      normal         fair           poor
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Continuing geomagnetic activity is degrading global HF propagation 
conditions. PCA event has degraded high lat HF comms. 

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 10-20% enhanced until dawn then depressed 10-20%

T index:  64

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
22 Feb     0    About 20% below predicted monthly values.
23 Feb    15    About 15% below predicted monthly values.
24 Feb    20    About 15% below predicted monthly values.

Predicted Monthly T Index for February is 30.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Degraded and depressed HF conditions are expected over the next
three days due to recurrent/flare and dissappearing filament
activity.
-- 
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: rwc@ips.oz.au                          |PO Box 5606
tel: +61 2 4148329                            |West Chatswood NSW 2057
fax: +61 2 4148331                            |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 24 Feb 1994 21:16:19 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!lf.hp.com!devlin@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Need info on RAMSEY FX remote tuner
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I built an FX146 2 meter rig a while ago and I understand that there
have been several articles published on various homebrew upgrades.  I've
already checked the mods files on world.std.com and couldn't find any
references to what I'm looking for.  Ramsey doesn't keep a list of
articles either.

Does anyone know sources of information on an external digital tuner
(not using a PC or anything non-portable) to randomly tune throughout
the FX's entire frequency range?

Also, has anyone made a subaudible side tone encoder for use with
repeaters that use this technique to block spurious triggering?

Thanks,

--
Lee Devlin N3IWP        | HP Little Falls Site  | phone: (302) 633-8697 
Piper Colt N4986Z       | 2850 Centerville Rd.  | email:
'Spirit of rec.aviation'| Wilmington, DE 19808  | devlin@lf.hp.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:21:32 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!nrtpa22!brtph560!nt.com!cmwdr01@ames.arpa
Subject: Need TR-9000 info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>I have become the owner of a used Kenwood TR-9000
> It works well in the FM mode, the CW mode, it keys the transmit light in 
> the usb,lsb mode but no power out, it dose receive in the ssb modes.

Did you test the CW mode using a key plugged into the Key jack?
On some rigs, placing the radio in CW mode and then pressing the PTT on the
mike will put the radio in Transmit mode but there will be no power output 
until the CW key is pressed.

  
====================================================================
Dave Redfearn, SR PC LAN Analyst   Northern Telecom  RTP, NC.
ph.(919) 992-3925  email: cmwdr01@nt.com    qrl? de N4ELM/qrp  

All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of 
my employer, co-workers or any other person, real or imaginary.

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:02:38 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!bison!draco!ve4kwg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Charles Adams) writes:

Dave,

  You might want to have a look at this...
   Pritty cheap for the entire callbook

   --->Kevin

>I got the QRZ CDROM a month ago on the internet "special"
>offered by Fred.  This was the best use of money for ham
>radio for under $20.

>This CDROM should give Buckmaster and the others a run for
>their money, since they are at the $50 level.

>I use the UNIX (tm) version of the callbook.  During one
>run of 25 calls that I looked up for QSLs to stations worked
>during a QRP contest, it took less than 3 seconds on a workstation.
>I did this by creating a script with the lines
>call k5fjz k5jkb ...  (for five calls)
>call xxxxxx xxxx xxx   

>with five calls per line, since the program halts every five for
><cr> as it assumes it's in an interactive mode from a terminal.

>I plan on submitting the data base for ALL 180,000+ US cities
>and a C program to do great-circle bearing calculations for the
>next verions of the QRZ CDROM.  The data base alone if more than
>5MB!!!

>Anyway, my $0.02 worth of publicity.  I'm NOT paid for this
>endorsement, just another happy satisfied customer.

>There are a lot of other programs and data bases on the ROM,
>but I haven't had time to play with them yet.


>dit dit
>-- 
>Chuck Adams  K5FO  CP-60
>adams@sgi.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:31:21 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!pineapp@ames.arpa
Subject: Super Morse 4.10 is out!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <dino-230294164850@dino.hip.cam.org> dino@cam.org (Dino Moriello) writes:
>I read a note somewhere that 4.06 was available from some FTP site.
>Well super Morse 4.10 is out and available on Compuserve and possibly
>somewhere on the NET.  If you can't find it, let me know and if someone
>tells me how to get permission to PUT it on their FTP server, I can send it
>there. 
>
>73 de dino
>
>-- 
>    """""""""""""""""""""
>    |   Dino Moriello    """"""""""""""""""""""
>    |   PO BOX 105       Internet: dino@CAM.ORG """""""""""""""""""""
>    |   Radisson,Quebec  Compuserve: 76120,1472  Tel.: 514-974-0773 |
>    |   CANADA  J0Y 2X0  Packet:   VE2DM@VE2FKB        819-638-8281 |
>    """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>    Please E-mail replies since I can't always read the USENET postings.
 What are the fixes and enhancemnets of 4.10 that was not availble
with 4.06????



-- 
.----------------------------------------------+--------------------------.
| INTERNET: pineapp@netcom.com     (DC436)     | Daniel Curry  WB6STW     | 
| AMPRNET : dan@wb6stw.ampr.org  [44.4.20.144] | E-:-) Ham Radio Operator |
| AX.25   : wb6stw@n0ary.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA      | Redwood City, CA USA     |   
'----------------------------------------------+--------------------------'

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 18:49:31 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!ieunet!curia!nmrc!rohan@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Travelling to Egypt
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I have just returned from a trip to Egypt, Jordan and Syria.  I had no 
problem with my radio (a small Sony FM/MW/SW): the only electronic equipment 
customs are interested in seems to be video cameras with custom checks being
of format:

 Do you have a video camera?
 No.
 Fine, next.

On my way into Jordan, from Syria, I noticed that radios were listed as 
being restricted but there were no real checks.

Michael.

--
Michael Rohan,      rohan@nmrc.ucc.ie
NMRC, Cork, Ireland.     +353-21-276871 x 4792

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Date: 24 Feb 1994 10:31:49 -0600
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
Subject: used gear info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

HI,

I am working on writing an article whose purpose it will be to help new
hams in their search for used HF gear.

I am very interested in personal opinions/comments that might help in
this matter.

here is the proposed outline:

HF Rigs, Buying Used Gear

-  Some tubes vs all transistors and what it means to ham
-  what bands does it cover (WARC?)
-  what modes does it have (CW/SSB/FM/FSK)
-  built in vs. external power supply
-  size
-  price range
-  extras: RIT,XIT, adjustable IF, filtering, computer control for banswitching and such, 
   option available, dual VFO and its use, speech processing, other
-  good bets in different price ranges
-  is rig especially good on one mode (cw vs ssb)
-  can rig be easily turned down to QRP levels (optional section)
-  built in cw keyer or filters

thanks...

73

Jeff, AC4HF

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 15:24:44 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@ames.arpa
Subject: West Coast Live - News Digest February 23 1994 
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <199402230404.UAA15913@mail.netcom.com> essmjf@netcom.com writes:

  >                Sedge Thomson's West Coast Live
  >         San Francisco's Live Radio Show to the World
  > 
  >                                            February 23, 1994
  > 
  >      Table of Contents:

  Well, I guess it fits in here. A bunch of amateurs on the radio....



 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "You have a flair for adding
Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com       |   a fanciful dimension to any
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |   story."
   Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080               |            Peking Noodle Co.

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 10:47:02 -0500
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1994Feb21.204344.59186@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, <holdwick_marc-220294134932@mac-am-47.cig.mot.com>, <BTtQjGG8yvBU057yn@dorsai.dorsai.org>d
Subject : Re: Chevy Ignition Noise (was Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!)

In article <BTtQjGG8yvBU057yn@dorsai.dorsai.org>,
bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org (Steve Coletti) wrote:

> In article <holdwick_marc-220294134932@mac-am-47.cig.mot.com>, Marc Holdwick wrote:
> >
> > If it is something other than the ignition module I would be really
> > interested in knowing as I have a high milage (140k) 1985 Chevy Caprice
> > which has *terrible* ignition noise.
>
> The problem is in the alternator.  Somewhere around 30-40,000 miles
> something will let go in the regulator.  In addition to the increased
> noise, you will notice an over voltage.  Instead of the nominal 13.1 volts,
> you will get something like 14.x volts.   The car will still run good,
> and for a long time too.  You may notice a slight glow to the "alt" light
> on the dash board at night.  That is your cue that something is wrong.
>
> I've had this happen twice, on my Citation, (which was an early model run
> and had the predecessor alternator as on the Caprice), and on my old
> Dodge's heavy duty alternator.  BTW the Citation kept going until I sold it
> at 75,000 miles, but the Dodge alternator conked out on the highway at
> 55,000 miles.

Interesting.  My Citation (1980) has had a couple of alternators die, and I
appreciate the tip about the faint glow of the warning light, but I didn't
hear any increase in noise associated with it.  It's remarkably quied for
HF mobile operation.  Sorta hate to contemplate getting rid of it, but at
152,000 miles, I suspect someday it may go terminal on me.

--
73  de  John Taylor  W3ZID
rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 10:10:51 -0500
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <761933299snx@skyld.grendel.com>, <rohvm1.mah48d-220294155107@136.141.220.39>, <gregCLoICG.4sK@netcom.com>lin.ma
Subject : Re: AIDS testing on Amateurs

In article <gregCLoICG.4sK@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
wrote:


> >In article <761933299snx@skyld.grendel.com>, jangus@skyld.grendel.com
> >(Jeffrey D. Angus) wrote:
> >>> IVE JUST LEARNED THAT WAYNE GREEN THE PUBLISHER OF 73 AMATEUR RADIO TODAY
> >>> HAS PRINTED PAMPHLETS
> >>> EXPLAINING PROPER USE OF 2 SIMPLE ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS
> >>> WHICH HAVE SHOWN PROMISE IN DISABLING
> >>> AND POSSIBLY CURING THE HIV VIRUS.
> >
> No, it's not a joke. Wayne Green seems to believe he has found the
> cure. He editorializes about it in the same column in which he
> expounds the virtues of cold fusion. And psience. Well, anyway,
> he's been on that toot for several months now.

Yeah, I had read in Science magazine that Wayne was going to be publishing
a new journal dealing with cold fusion.  I suspect the only subscribers may
be Pons and Fleishmann (is that the right name for the other "discoverer"
of cold fusion?  Workin' from memory here.), so hopefully it will cost him
a bundle and will fade quickly into obscurity. Fortunately, the rest of the
_scientific_ community seems to have attended the wake for cold fusion, but
not these guys.

--
73  de  John Taylor  W3ZID         | Run for your lives, the Luddites are
rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com         | coming!

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Date: 24 Feb 1994 10:20 CDT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu!tskloss@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CLnAIr.76s@inmet.camb.inmet.com>, <23FEB199413162911@zeus.tamu.edu>, <wier-230294203421@198.213.12.234>
Subject : Re: Honda ignition recall -  now NOISE!!

> 
>I get a continueous S9 on my HF rig in the car - I even get noise on my
>factory installed FM radio!
> 
Your car's computer should be shielded.  My chevy's is in a thick tin can, but
the injectors are in the clear.  Your noise may be coming from an improperly
shielded computer rather than EMP noise generated when your car is injecting
fuel.

-tim

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