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Info-Hams Digest Thu, 24 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 202
Today's Topics:
ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!! (3 msgs)
QSL ROUTE FOR GS0KPW??
RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
Sound Blaster stupidity
Super Morse 4.10 is out!
two meter frequency allocations
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Date: 23 Feb 94 16:06:21 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX007
ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
ZCZC AX39
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 7 ARLX007
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Date: 24 Feb 94 17:19:46 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!rwiley@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Dan,
I was wondering what (if anything) you (or anyone else for that matter)
might have heard about the recent lines of GM automobiles. The time has come
that I am thinking about a newer automobile. I would certainly like to come
to the dealership knowledgeable about any problems of RF noise, RF shutting
down the internal engine computer, ect. There really *should* be a printout
somewhere of such problems. Maybe Ralph Nader will do that next. 8-)
Thanks and 73 de Bob, N8MMR
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=-= P.O. Box 3164 Amateur Radio Packet: N8MMR@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA =-=
=-= Columbus, Ohio 43210 =-=
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Date: 24 Feb 94 16:24:39 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!biivax.dp.beckman.com!phoenix.dse.beckman.com!ccgate.dp.beckman.com!dplabriola@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <wier-230294203421@198.213.12.234> wier@merlin.etsu.edu (Bob Wier) writes:
>Subject: Re: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
>From: wier@merlin.etsu.edu (Bob Wier)
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 02:34:20 GMT
>In article <23FEB199413162911@zeus.tamu.edu>, tskloss@zeus.tamu.edu
>(SKLOSS, TIMOTHY WILLIAM) wrote:
>> or clicks) that varies with rpm, then it is ignition noise. Try a filter
>> from RS on the power leads, other than that buy AMERICAN.
>>
>> -tim
>Sorry tim - that's not the solution. There has been a group of Jeep
>Cherokee
>owners who have been trying for YEARS to quiet up our vehicles, and so far
>absolutely nothing works. In our case, the noise seems to be coming from
>the fuel injector circuits/computer...
Just helped out a friend at work with one of these Jeeps... It appears to have
been the fuel injectors. I provided him with several of large clamp on ferrite
slabs. He applied them close to the control box. It appears that they use some
type of chopper drive on the stepper motors/solenoids within the fuel
injectors.
The "beads" are approximately 1" long, .25 ID and .6 OD with a 60 ohm
impedance starting in the low MHz... available from FairRite if I am not
mistaken. They come as two halfs in a plastic holder so they can be added
without taking connectors apart.
The noise level was significantly reduced... D. Labriola (N6CNB)......
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:05:59 GMT
From: math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup@news.acns.nwu.edu
Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Bob Wier (wier@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
: Sorry tim - that's not the solution. There has been a group of Jeep
: Cherokee
: owners who have been trying for YEARS to quiet up our vehicles, and so far
: absolutely nothing works. In our case, the noise seems to be coming from
: the fuel injector circuits/computer...
: I get a continueous S9 on my HF rig in the car - I even get noise on my
: factory installed FM radio!
: Bob Wier, East Texas State U., Commerce, Texas
: keeper of the Adobe Photoshop, MC68HC11, ICOM mailing lists
: wier@merlin.etsu.edu (watch for address change)
How about fitting, say, a Mazda 3.9 litre turbo-Diesel ? There are a
number of firms modifying petrol (gasoline) Range Rovers in this way as
a means of fighting 13 miles/gal and $4/gal here in Britain, so I wonder
if there are similar operations in the US despite your much cheaper
fuel. If the problem is so intractable, and a fix is so desirable that
people have spent years on it, then this could be an appropriate
solution.
I've noticed that all of the different spectrum monitoring vehicles
that I've looked at in various countries were Diesel powered, even the
light car based ones. It is one way of fixing all the ignition and
fuel-injection interference problems with absolute certainty in one
move.
I just had to filter the clock and wipers in my Diesel 4x4.
Cheers
David
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Date: 24 Feb 1994 04:08:33 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!computer_ctr.sonoma.edu!vannuysd@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: QSL ROUTE FOR GS0KPW??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I worked GS0KPW on 10/31 during the CQWW contest but don't have a
QSL route. Can you help?
Please send e-mail.
David
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 00:28:48 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <762016156snx@skyld.grendel.com> jangus@skyld.grendel.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
>
>In article <CLnyL1.Hx3@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes:
> > >
> > > For Christs (sic) sake Jeff. Give it a f*****g rest.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
> If you're going to note corrections to my english,
> then how about noting the correction to my language too.
`Sic' does not denote a correction. And I editted out a few letters
because I got flamed in the `a' in December for saying the `a' word.
>
> > Context. Context is everything. Go back and check it yourself and you'll
> > see why I got upset at the original poster.
>
> I watched the entire episode from the start on rec.radio.cb. From what
> I saw you got your wannabe basket-weave belt accessories in a knot when
> someone posted a list of 6 MHz frequencies and then you went ballistic
> when Dana joined in the discussion.
I went ballistic as soon as I saw the 6mhz freqs posted as a place for
pirates to use. I was debating with the poster prior to Dana joining in.
As I've said, I've got an entirely different outlook of this topic due
to my Coast Guard days than anyone else one here. I don't expect you to
understand or appreciate my views. And from what I hear from other
Coast Guard units, what I experienced while at Monterey and here in
Honolulu (willful interference during distress communications) was
mild.
Willful interference on the ham bands doesn't jeopardize lives like it
does on the aero and maritime channels. Get out of the narrow world that
you live in, Jeff; there's more to the RF spectrum than the ham bands.
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: 23 Feb 94 11:33:05 CST
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!cdsmail!timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!andyw@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Sound Blaster stupidity
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <N4HY.94Feb22150159@runner.ccr-p.ida.org>, n4hy@runner.ccr-p.ida.org (Bob McGwier) writes:
>
> Creative Technology DSP folks have given me an unbelievable reply. The
> [Bobs obvious disapointment with CT's myopic world view deleted...]
> to be more open about its architecture and/or the most versatile for our
> applications.
This must be some holy creed inside CT, since they did the same thing
to *BSD developers a while back, so most developers switched efforts
to the Gracillis card. Gracillis were more than willing to let people
develop software for their card - if they have a comparable product,
I suggest you contact them, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Be sure to post repetative, boring posts of your progress so that
we may compare it with the Hambluster :-)
--
andyw N0REN/G1XRL
andyw@aspen.cray.com Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc. (612) 683-5835
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 16:48:49 -0500
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!altitude!dino.hip.cam.org!user@ames.arpa
Subject: Super Morse 4.10 is out!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I read a note somewhere that 4.06 was available from some FTP site.
Well super Morse 4.10 is out and available on Compuserve and possibly
somewhere on the NET. If you can't find it, let me know and if someone
tells me how to get permission to PUT it on their FTP server, I can send it
there.
73 de dino
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| PO BOX 105 Internet: dino@CAM.ORG """""""""""""""""""""
| Radisson,Quebec Compuserve: 76120,1472 Tel.: 514-974-0773 |
| CANADA J0Y 2X0 Packet: VE2DM@VE2FKB 819-638-8281 |
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Please E-mail replies since I can't always read the USENET postings.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:03:25 GMT
From: world!drt@uunet.uu.net
Subject: two meter frequency allocations
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Jeffrey Wittich (jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca) wrote:
: > Our University station is struggling with the student association for
: >funding and as a result we put a 2 meter- cross band- remote base on
: >the air. At the time it seemed as if an acceptable input frequency
: >would be in the miscellaneous (uses) allocation. We put our input on
: >145.775 ( an unused frequency in the area). Soon we we pounced on by
: >the local coordinator who said we were in violation of part 97 since
: >what we had was not a remote base, rather a repeater.
: >However, the local coordinator has said that any radio that uses any
: >form of automatic T/R switching constitutes a repeater!
: >Therefore, he contends we are in violation of part 97?
: >In any event we change frequencies today, but are there any opinions
: >on exactly what constitutes a repeater.
: >In my opinion, when the law was enacted, a repeater was construyed to
: >be a remote system with inputs/outputs in the same band and not a box
: >which is turned on or off before and after use.
: >73-- Gary
: Well, lets see what part 97 says under definitions:
: (35) Repeater. An amateur station that automatically
: retransmits the signals of other stations.
: Yep, looks like you got a repeater, but so what? I can't find any thing
: in part 97 that you are violating anyway. If you are causing interferance,
: and are not coordinated, you would have to deal with it, but from what
: you say, I see no violation here.
:
: Can anyone else?
: 73. -=Jeff=-
Yeah. 145.775 is out of repeater subband. See 97.205b.
-drt
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|David R. Tucker KG2S drt@world.std.com|
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Date: 23 Feb 94 17:58:43 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: US License Examination Opportunities Scheduled 2/23/94 to 5/9/94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
AMATEUR RADIO EXAMINATION OPPORTUNITIES
*****************************************************************
Special Note: Amateur Radio licenses usually arrive between 8 and
10 weeks after the test session. The FCC considers their
processing time to be 90 days--from the date they receive the
application. The FCC usually receives the application one
to two weeks after the test session (once the VE Team and the
coordinating VEC have completed their processing).
Note: Codeless Technician to Technician w/HF upgraders (who pass a
Morse code test) will not receive a new license from the FCC.
The existing Technician license plus the CSCE conveying the Morse
code test credit is the only documentation issued for use of
the additional HF privileges.
*****************************************************************
The following test session information is provided by the
ARRL/VEC for the upcoming six to eight week period. For
further information, please contact the test session CONTACT
PERSON at the telephone number provided. If necessary, you
may contact the ARRL/VEC at 203-666-1541 x282 for additional
information. Electronic mail may be forwarded to the ARRL/VEC
via USENET at "bjahnke@arrl.org" or via MCI Mail to
MCI ID: 653-2312 or 215-5052.
Although the test session information presented here does
not indicate whether walk-ins are accepted or not, most test
sessions do allow walk-ins. We encourage you, however, to
always contact the CONTACT PERSON at the telephone number
provided so that the VE Team is aware that you be attending
the test session.
STILL NEED TO PREPARE FOR YOUR EXAM?
If you would like information on how to become licensed; or
how to locate Amateur Radio clubs, instructors, licensing
classes and/or Novice examiners in your area; please contact
the ARRL Educational Activities Department (EAD) at 203-666-
1541 x219. The EAD can also provide information on
recommended study materials. Electronic mail may be forwarded
to the ARRL EAD via USENET at "rwhite@arrl.org" or via MCI Mail to
MCI ID: 215-5052.
EXAM LISTINGS - DEFINITION OF FIELDS
STATE
Test Date,VEC,City,,Contact Phone,Contact Person
The SECOND field in the following listing specifies the VEC
which is coordinating this examination. This single-character
designator denotes the VEC as defined below. An "A" (for example)
indicates that this examination is coordinated by the ARRL/VEC.
For further information on any examinations listed, or if you do not
find any examinations listed for your area, you may contact
any of the coordinating VECs below.
A = ARRL/VEC, 225 Main St, Newington, CT 06111; (d) 203-666-1541
The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
X = Anchorage ARC, 2628 Turnagain Parkway, Anchorage, AK 99517;
(d) 907-786-8121, (n) 907-243-2221 (or) 907-276-5121
(or) 907-274-5546
C = Central Alabama VEC, 1215 Dale Dr SE, Huntsville, AL 35801;
205-536-3904
N = Charlotte VEC, 227 Bennett Ln, Charlotte, NC 28213;
704-596-2168
D = Great Lakes ARC VEC Inc., PO Box 273, Glenview, IL 60025;
708-486-8019
E = Golden Empire ARS, PO Box 508, Chico, CA 95927; No phone.
G = Greater Los Angeles ARG, 9737 Noble Ave, Sepulveda, CA 91343;
818-892-2068, 805-822-1473.
J = Jefferson ARC, PO Box 24368, New Orleans, LA 70184-4368;
504-831-1613. Test fee for 1994 is $5.00.
K = Koolau ARC, 45-529 Nakuluai St, Kaneohe, HI 96744;
808-235-4132
L = Laurel ARC Inc., PO Box 3039, Laurel, MD 20709-0039;
(d) 301-572-5124, 301-317-7819, (n) 301-588-3924
M = The Milwaukee RAC Inc., 1737 N 116th St, Wauwatosa, WI 53226;
414-774-6999. Test fee for 1994 is $5.00.
H = Mountain ARC, PO Box 10, Burlington, WV 26710; 304-289-3576,
301-724-0674
P = PHD ARA Inc., PO Box 11, Liberty, MO 64068; 816-781-7313
R = Sandarc-VEC, PO Box 2446, La Mesa, CA 91943-2446; 619-465-3926
S = Sunnyvale VEC ARC, PO Box 60307, Sunnyvale, CA 94088-0307;
408-255-9000
T = Triad Emergency ARC, 3504 Stonehurst Pl, High Point, NC 27265;
919-841-7576
W = Western Carolinas ARS VEC, 5833 Clinton Hwy - Suite 203,
Knoxville, TN 37912-2500; 615-688-7771.
The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
5 = W5YI-VEC, PO Box 565101, Dallas, TX 75356-5101; 817-461-6443
The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
EXAMINATION OPPORTUNITIES OUT
03/12/94,A,Belgium,,32-11439164,Ronald A.L. Torfs
03/05/94,A,England,,0462-812571,Leland Vandervort
02/26/94,A,Germany,,49-0-67253462,Stephen Hutchins, KN6G
03/26/94,A,Japan,,243-6092,Paul W Jackson USN
04/17/94,A,Saipan,,670-234-6323,David Hardt
GUAM
03/20/94,A,Adelup,,627-646-7611,Harry Y Taguchi
US VIRGIN ISLANDS
04/09/94,A,St Croix,,809-778-3156,Frank Jaeger
*EOF
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB SPCL ARL ARLX007
ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
2 meters a life saver
Amateur Radio may have saved a life when Diana Carlson, KC1SP, used
a local repeater to report a possible suicide attempt to police.
Carlson, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was on her way to work at GenRad
in Concord, Massachusetts, the morning of January 10, when she and
another motorist observed a man climbing the railing of the
Merrimack Bridge into the city. The man's auto was parked directly
in front of Carlson.
While the other motorist talked to the man, Carlson first tried a
call on 146.52, which she knew was sometimes monitored by the
Westford, Massachusetts police, then switched to the 147.120
repeater in Billerica. Larry Garneau, N1QEZ, who was mobile,
responded and passed the message to his wife, Virginia Garneau,
N1QFA, who telephoned police.
An officer of the Tyngsboro Police arrived in time to pull the
27-year-old man from the railing of the bridge.
Carlson's husband David is N1JYX, her son is KA1VWX, and her
daughter is KA1VUA.
NNNN
/EX
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Date: 24 Feb 94 16:02:59 GMT
From: news.moneng.mei.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <199402231618.IAA20284@ucsd.edu>, <CLp1KE.Iz@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, <2kietb$9bb@dancer.cc.bellcore.com>.spr
Subject : Re: ARRL Repeater Directory
In article <2kietb$9bb@dancer.cc.bellcore.com>,
sohl,william h <whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com> wrote:
>In article <CLp1KE.Iz@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, Tom Bruhns <tomb@lsid.hp.com> wrote:
>>William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM wrote:
>>
>>: I have a real big problem with the idea that there are deliberate errors
>>: purposely induced into what should be a reference book. Maybe we should start
>>: a "repeater directory accuracy project" to confirm all the listings in the
>>: ARRL directory to see if content errors exist.
>
>My following post includes a layman's set of interpretations/opinions
>relative to some legal issues...Bottom line, I'm not a lawyer, but
>here's my opinion, treat it accordingly.
>
>First, I'm an ARRL member and a Local Gov't Liason (LGL) in the ARRL field
>organization, but that doesn't mean I agree with all positions of ARRL.
>I missed the initial thread of this discussion,but from the two recent
>posts it appears ARRL has threatened legal action against someone
>providing (or intending to provide) an "online" version of a repeater
>directory. It also appears that ARRL has determined that some of
>the data included in this "online" directory must have been taken
>from the ARRL Repeater Directory because there are certain
>identical pieces of data that were created (e.g. a deliberate
>misspelling of a town name, callsign, etc.) as such in the ARRL
>publlished directory to use as a means of identifying data from
>the ARRL directory which has been used to create other databases.
>The ARRL then claims that using that information is a violation of
>their copyright on their Repeater Directory.
<snip>
Instead of getting hung up on legalities, let us look at from a
rational/economic view point.
Consider the following scenario. Assume that there is no method of enforcing
copyright on lists of facts. Also assume that it costs money to get a list
together. In absence of copyright, no one will be willing to compile the
list as they will surely lose money. This is because the moment they get
the list together, others will rip them off. The end result will be no
handy-dandy list for us to use. We will be worse off for sure.
So, what seems to be desirable is:
- to let copyright be used to ensure that people who invest in collecting
data get a fair return on their investment and
- yet, do not let copyright be used to prevent any one else from investing
money in compiling the facts.
These two seem to be in conflict. Salting the list with false entries
is a great way out as the presence of these erroneous entries in some one
else's list is prima facia evidence that they have not gathered data
independently and are just ripping off the list.
So, in my opinion, ARRL is following the best strategy possible. If
Yee's list is independently gathered then there should be and will be
no problem whatsoever.
Rajiv
aa9ch
r-dewan@nwu.edu
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Date: 23 Feb 1994 16:45:39 -0500
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2jt93e$ds9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, <CLC4Dw.10E@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, <2juhv0$h56@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject : Re: Nude amateur radio clubs
While contemplating bellybuttons William VanHorne spake thusly:
> Hardly. If you're nude, you can't wear one of those nifty baseball caps
> with your name and callsign on it. What's the point of being in ham
> radio if you don't wear your baseball cap? Sheesh.
> ---Bill VanHorne
Bill,
Just curious, but I always thought that if you were wearing merely
a baseball cap, with or without your name and callsign, you were
generally considered to be nude.
I guess it just depends on where you hang your baseball cap ;).
--
John Meaker
Disclaimer: I am not responsible.
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