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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 24 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue  200

Today's Topics:
                  ARLP007 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC 
                      ARLX009 Radio show offered
     Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 22 February
                            ftp for files
                 Honda ignition recall -  now NOISE!!
                         Low power Bird slugs
                            repeater list
                         Travelling to Egypt

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 09:18:25 -0700
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@ames.arpa
Subject: ARLP007 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC 
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP007
ARLP007 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC 
AP21 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 7  ARLP007 
radio amateurs

Unstable geomagnetic conditions finally started settling 
down this week.  A very disruptive coronal hole in the 
Sun's Southern hemisphere was the cause of all the grief.  
Conditions may worsen again on the day this bulletin is 
released, and again around March 6 when the recent 
disruptive region rotates back into view on the solar 
disk.

Look for flux values to drop after this weekend, reaching 
a minimum around 85 on March 2 or 3.

For the DX contest this weekend, look for a flux between 
100 and 105, and A and K indices dropping after Friday.

Sunspot Numbers from February 10 through 16 were 49, 49, 
53, 72, 59, 59 and 71, with a mean of 58.9.  10.7 cm flux 
was 94.2, 93.1, 97.6, 97.8, 101, 103.8 and 104.7, with a 
mean of 98.9.

The path projection for this weekend is from Orem, Utah to 
Bolivia.

80 meters should be open from 0100z to 1030z, with the 
best signals around 0300z.  40 meters should be open from 
0030z to 1130z, with the best conditions from 0100z to 
1000z.  30 meters should be good from 2330z to 1200z, with 
the best signals from 0130z to 1000z. 20 meters should be 
good after 2200z until 0230z on most days, until 0530z on 
some days, and on a few days until 0800z.  The peak period 
for 20 meters should be from 0000z to 0230z.  17 meters 
should be open from 1430z to 0200z, with the best time 
around 2230z to 0130z. 15 meters should be open from 1530z 
to 0030z, with the best signals late in that period.  12 
meters looks good from 1600z to 2300z.  The best signals 
on 10 meters should be around 1800z, with a possibility of 
openings from 1700z to 2200z on most days.  On some days 
10 meters could open as early as 1500z and close as late 
as 0130z.
NNNN
/EX

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 14:50:44 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!marcbg@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: ARLX009 Radio show offered
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX009
ARLX009 Radio show offered
 
ZCZC AX41
QST de W1AW  
Special Bulletin 9  ARLX009
>From ARRL Headquarters  
Newington CT  February 22, 1994
To all radio amateurs 
 
SB SPCL ARL ARLX009
ARLX009 Radio show offered
 
Radio show offered
 
''This Week in Amateur Radio,'' an Amateur Radio audio bulletin
service, celebrates its first anniversary on March 5.
 
The show, offering news stories of interest to amateurs, lasts 60 to
90 minutes.  It is carried on the Omega Radio Network on Saturdays,
at 7:30 PM EST.
 
The program also is available on satellite Galaxy III, transponder
17 (9H), 5.8 MHz wideband audio (4.040 GHz).
 
Weekly program summaries are circulated on amateur packet bulletin
boards, FidoNet, GEnie, USenet, and the Internet.  The program is
produced by Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, and George Bowen, N2LQS.
 
For more information, contact Anderman at PO Box 8592, Albany NY
12208, or via amateur packet at WA2UMX.ENY.NY.USA.NA.
NNNN
/EX
 
 

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  marcbg@netcom.com      Amateur Radio N5MEI   
   marcbg@esy.com      
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Date: 23 Feb 94 05:27:58 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 22 February
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT

                                22 FEBRUARY, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT
------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: The GOES greater than 2 MeV electron detectors are contaminated during
       high energy proton events.  For this reason, the electron fluence
       values for 20 to 22 February are suspect and should be disregarded.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 053, 02/22/94
10.7 FLUX=106.7  90-AVG=106        SSN=068      BKI=7844 3312  BAI=059
BGND-XRAY=B1.7     FLU1=3.8E+07  FLU10=2.8E+05  PKI=7645 4333  PAI=046
  BOU-DEV=201,342,061,067,038,028,006,013   DEV-AVG=094 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C1.2   @ 0234UT    XRAY-MIN= B1.5   @ 1056UT   XRAY-AVG= B2.5
NEUTN-MAX= +000%  @ 2035UT   NEUTN-MIN= -006%  @ 0735UT  NEUTN-AVG= -2.8%
  PCA-MAX= +0.4DB @ 0010UT     PCA-MIN= -0.2DB @ 1015UT    PCA-AVG= +0.1DB
BOUTF-MAX=55441NT @ 0105UT   BOUTF-MIN=55316NT @ 1756UT  BOUTF-AVG=55342NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+050,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=E:+142NT@ 0330UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-131NT@ 0344UT  G6-AVG=+078,+066,-046
 FLUXFCST=STD:105,105,100;SESC:105,105,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=025,015,010/030,020,015
    KFCST=4455 5432 3445 4332  27DAY-AP=017,016   27DAY-KP=1353 4432 2343 3433
 WARNINGS=*GSTRM;*AURMIDWCH
   ALERTS=**FORBUSH;**MAJSTRM;**PROTN10:ENDED
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 21 FEB 94 was  42.2.
      The Full Kp Indices for 21 FEB 94 are: 2o 2o 3o 7-   7- 7- 5- 6o 
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 21 FEB 94 are:   8   9  14 110 103 122  42  87 
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 21 FEB is: 1.6E+08


SYNOPSIS OF ACT
--------------------

             Solar activity was low. Just one unobserved C-class event
       was recorded. Region 7671 (N10W42) continues its slow decay.
       Three new regions were assigned, 7675 (S12E41), 7676 (N09E50),
       and 7677 (N20W12).

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       low.

            The geomagnetic field has been at predominantly major
       storm levels the past 24 hours. Intervals of severe storm
       conditions were observed in nighttime sectors. This disturbance
       has gradually weakened throughout the day. The greater than 10
       MeV proton event ended at 0050Z. The polar cap absorption ended
       at 1525Z.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be at active to minor storm levels during the
       next 24 hours. Episodes of major storming may occur in
       nighttime sectors. A small coronal hole now positioned
       near W30 may further fuel the activity in the near term.
       Strictly unsettled conditions are anticipated by Feb. 25.

            Event probabilities 23 feb-25 feb

                             Class M    05/05/05
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     05/05/05
                             PCAF       Yellow

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 23 feb-25 feb

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                15/20/15
                        Minor Storm           25/20/10
                        Major-Severe Storm    25/10/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                15/25/20
                        Minor Storm           25/20/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    35/15/05

            HF propagation conditions over the high and polar latitude
       paths continued to be essentially useless throughout the day.
       Moderate to periods of strong degradation were also observed
       throughout the day over many middle latitude regions, although
       some improvements are gradually becoming apparent over these
       regions.  Gradual improvements are expected over the next 72
       hours, although a return to near-normal conditions is not
       expected for several days yet, particularly over the high and
       polar latitude paths where residual substorm activity and
       renewed activity from the above-noted coronal hole may keep
       propagation at poor to very poor levels for much of this week.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WIT
-----------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7671  N10W42  191  0290 DAO  06  010 BET
7675  S12E41  108  0040 CAO  06  006 BET
7676  N09E50  099  0030 BXO  09  008 BET
7677  N20W12  161  0010 BXO  03  004 BET
7669  N08W60  209                    PLAGE
7670  N09W50  199                    PLAGE
7674  S14W17  166                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RET
NMBR LAT
7664 S13   036
7665 N03   029


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 22 FEBRUARY, 1994
-------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP SWF
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 22 FEBRUARY, 1994
-----------------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
63   S30W12 S30W17 S28W40 S04W30  187  ISO   POS   008 10830A
64   N40W02 N10W22 N25W36 N40W02  179  ISO   POS   015 10830A
65   S18E53 S30E43 S18E34 S10E36  117  ISO   POS   003 10830A


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
21 Feb: 0459  0504  0511  B2.5                                         
        0635  0651  0658  B5.5                                         
        1704  1707  1711  B3.7                                         


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    003  (100.0)

 Total Events: 003 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WIT
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 24 Feb 94 06:00:34 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wy1z@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ftp for files
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <5c.13488.23.0N17A716@pplace.com> pat.wilson@pplace.com (Pat Wilson) writes:
>In your experience, what is the best site to ftp for ham files?  I am
>looking to fill up my phoneline bbs with amateur files.  I would like to
>find the best sources for the newer files that come out, or is there a
>single source?
>
>N0RDQ


You are more than welcome to venture through the mod archives on World:
anonymously ftp into: ftp.std.com:/pub/hamradio/mods

The directory structure branches from this point per the different 
manufactureres.

I still have a LOT of mods on disk which I haven't had time to view and 
upload.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Scott


-- 
===============================================================================
| Scott Ehrlich         Internet: wy1z@neu.edu     BITNET: wy1z@NUHUB  |
| Amateur Radio: wy1z          AX.25: wy1z@k1ugm.ma.usa.na                    |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on      |
|   the World - ftp.std.com  pub/hamradio                 |
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Date: 24 Feb 94 04:03:00 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!altitude!dino.hip.cam.org!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Honda ignition recall -  now NOISE!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1994Feb21.204344.59186@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
baxter@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:

> This past month, Honda sent out a recall notice for their 90-91 Accords.
> They were wanting to replace a part in the distributor which failed when
> the car got high mileage.
> 
> I had this recall work done on my car a couple of weeks ago, and now have
> terrible ignition noise on 2 meters and 440.  Before this work had been
> done, the ignition had been really quite quiet -- now it is nearly 
> unbearable.
> 
> One fellow ham said the thought that he'd read something about this on packet
> or in one of the ham magazines.  
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?  The local Honda folks seem lukewarm about
> fixing this problem they created, probably because theyt really don't
> understand it.  
> 
> Any one dealt with Honda about this problem?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kirk Baxter, N0FPZ/VK1KU



Well Kirk, I have had the same mod done about one month ago and have the
same noise problem as you.  However, after my last tune up, about a year
ago they had changed the plugs and rotor among other things, and I noticed
the problem with the noise was also there at that time.

With time the noise should go away, relatively, if I go by what I
experienced after the tune up last year.  I am still waiting for the
problem to go down right now. It's not too bad on good strong sigs, but
weaker ones get very hard to make out.  I haven't tried any type of noise
filtering yet, but my power is directly at the battery and I do have a
choke I may try when I have the time.

Let me know what you find.   

Bye---- from a fellow honda owner, Dino

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Date: 23 Feb 1994 16:31:18 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!concert!bigblue.oit.unc.edu!cheech@ames.arpa
Subject: Low power Bird slugs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <8377@gold.gvg.tek.com>,  <groverc@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com> wrote:
>
>Is there a Bird slug available that would do a credible job
>of measuring <5w signals in the range 3-30MHz?
>
>WT6P

The lowest power slug available from Bird for 2-30 MHz is the Model
50H.  It does 50 Watts full scale.

I suspect that the problem with HF is that the pickoff element is
such a small fraction of a wavelength at HF that it can't get enough
power to drive the meter.  Other manufacturers may make a compatible
slug that will do lower power, but all I've got is the Bird catalog.

They do make a multirange meter (the 4410) that will give you 1 Watt
full scale at 2-30 MHz.  All you need is $599 + $179/slug that you
just have to get rid of.  Fat Chance.

Prices are from the 1991 catalog.  They've probably gone up.

Greg  AC4YT
cheech@med.unc.edu

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Date: 23 Feb 94 15:17:07 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!hofbrau.sps.mot.com!user@uunet.uu.net
Subject: repeater list
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

This whole issue is just another indication that the ARRL is more
interested in protecting itself than serving the amateur community.  
    How can the ARRL possibly claim copyright on data collected and
compiled by individual volunteers from sources other than the ARRL?  Surely
they don't believe the volunteers sat down and transcribed the contents of
the ARRL repeater directory...  I have one of those and it's the last place
I look for valid information ( lots of inaccurate listings for Arizona). 
Since the ARRL doesn't seem to pursue other published repeater directories
(go look in any HRO across the country), it would seem it has no legal
claim to data or format.  I might add that those rags usually charge money,
Conway's on-line directory is free.
    Is the ARRL just upset because somebody beat them to it?  Internet
users have been asking for an on-line directory for years.  Now that
somebody has finally taken the challenge, the ARRL gets nasty and legal
instead of helpful and supportive.
    I am a member of the ARRL and I am not happy.  I expect the ARRL to be
out there fighting the battles that really matter such as spectrum
disappearing to the government auction block, streamlining the FCC's
licensing procedures, and protecting our rights to communicate.  Instead I
get an ARRL that seems only concerned with protecting itself (fighting with
other VEC's about who's going to administer callsigns, defending high speed
CW code tests, and this directory matter). 
    They better take a clue from the NRA.  If the ARRL wants to be another
organization that slowly erodes its own members support and continually
loses influence, then it can continue to pursue these petty matters.  If
however, the ARRL wants to be a leader, grow in support and influence, then
it better start listening to the members and doing whatever it takes to
help the amateur community.

-- 
* Chris Terwilliger, AA7WD                 a229aa@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                                    AA7WD@N7MRP.AZ.USA.NA *
* Phoenix Corporate Research Labs         those who forget the past *
* 2100 E. Elliot Rd. EL508               are condemned to repeat it *
* Tempe, AZ  85284                               - George Santayana *

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Date: Wednesday, 23 Feb 1994 10:06:34 PST
From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!unixhub!slacvm!lmwhite@ames.arpa
Subject: Travelling to Egypt
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <2kdlug$nvb@gdls.com>, turini@gdls.com (Bill Turini) says:
>
>I will be travelling to Cairo in the near future.  I have been told to forget
>about
>bringing any amateur radio equipment as there is no possibility of getting an
>operating license there.
>
>But I was also told by the ARRL to not even bring a short wave receiver/alarm
>clock/AM/FM Radio as they were very strict on any type of radio equipment.
>
>Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this?
>
There will be no problem taking an ordinary shortwave/alarm/am/fm radio
into Egypt for your own use.  If there are restrictions on radio equipment,
it is probably on the type which can broadcast as well as receive.

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Date: 24 Feb 94 03:11:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <762016156snx@skyld.grendel.com>, <CLp60o.Dn3@ucdavis.edu>, <CLpJ87.8r@news.Hawaii.Edu>ary.
Subject : Re: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic

Jeff Herman (jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:

: I don't get it - what's a wannabe basket-weave belt? 

wannabe implies one who wishes or acts in a way more consistent with a 
group of individuals of which they are not a member.  It is usually 
used in a derogatory fashion.  For example some people call no-codes 
wannabe hams.  If one were to speak with an artificial French accent they 
may be called a wannbe french(wo)man. And if one acts like it is their 
responsibility to enforce laws when it is not they are often called 
wannabe cops (can you say security officer?).  
Most police uniforms include a leather belt (and often wallet) imprinted 
with a basket-weave design.
ergo. You were called a wannabe cop.

: What's gerbils got to do with gays? Is this 2 meter talk?
It has nothing to do with 2 meters. Perhaps 2 feet, but not 2 meters.  If 
you don't know, you really don't want to know. (is there an 
alt.fan.Richard.Gere?  :-)

Now, tell me, are you a born again Christian? HOw tall are your?

Dan
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Date: 24 Feb 94 07:10:09 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!tcj@decwrl.dec.com
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <YEE.94Feb18143836@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu>, <2733@indep1.chi.il.us>, <rohvm1.mah48d-220294100035@136.141.220.39>
Subject : Re: Probable demise of the online repeater directory project

Conway Yee (yee@mipg.upenn.edu) writes:

 > Recently, I received a polite letter from the ARRL lawyers
 > threatening legal action if I continue on this project.
 > Specifically, they state that the ARRL owns the FACTS present in the
 > repeater directory and that the format of the database infringes
 > upon the ARRL copyright.

John E. Taylor III (rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com) replies:

 > I'm an ARRL member, and considering ARRL put a fair amount of effort
 > into compiling the Repeater Directory, I'd feel they weren't using
 > my money wisely if they did _not_ enforce their copyright to the
 > Directory.

I'm an ARRL member, too, but I couldn't disagree more with John's opinion on
this issue.

The ARRL Repeater Directory is a wonderfully handy little publication, and at
six bucks a pop it's also one of the best deals around.  I buy three of them
whenever a new edition comes out: one for the shack, one for the car, and one
that lives in the portable radio bag with the HTs.  But for all its utility
the Directory suffers from the same limitations as any hardcopy publication.
For example,

 o  I live in an area blessed with tons of repeater activity.  When I
    pull in a signal on a frequency with which I am unfamiliar, it's
    a painstaking task to identify all of the candidate repeaters.  An
    online database could easily support this with a frequency lookup
    qualified by geographic are, distance from my QTH as calculated
    from great circle coordinates or grid square, etc.

 o  Keeping abreast of the local repeaters while traveling is also
    difficult since the Directory is usually not organized according to
    my travel route.  With an online directory, I could extract and
    print a "repeater itinerary" that I could scan from top to bottom
    during the course of my trip.

 o  Although exploring the packet network via digipeaters is somewhat
    passe these days, I used to find it handy to select only high-level
    repeaters for this purpose.  With location and altitude information
    from an online database, it would be possible to build
    theoretically promising paths for exploration.

I'm sure that other folks can think of many practical applications for an
online database of repeater information that I haven't mentioned here, and
I'll bet that may of then would be difficult or impossible armed only with
The ARRL directory.

While I certainly recognize the ARRL's right and obligation to protect its
commercial interests, its primary purpose is supposed to be furthering the art
and practice of amateur radio.  When these two objectives come into conflict I
for one expect it League to support the latter objective without even a moment
of hesitation.  The day the League's fiscal interests take priority over the
best interests of amateur radio is the day my membership terminates.

I generally avoid the frequent ARRL flamefests in this forum, but this one
really bothers me.  Conway, I strongly encourage you to post the text of the
letter you received from the League's counsel.  Does anyone in the Pacific
Division know if Brad Wyatt can be reached via the Internet?

And just for the record, I'd *still* buy my three annual copies of the
Directory even if an online database were available.


Todd, KB6JXT

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