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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 23 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue  198

Today's Topics:
                       ARRL Repeater Directory
                            Dayton parking
                     Exam element credit - 1 yr.!
                   Hammarlund HQ105TR - What is it?
                             HDN Releases
                             John Ramsey
                  Looking for HT storage suggestions
                         Low power Bird slugs
                              NEED RADIO
       Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?
                       RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
                          Rolling RF NOISE!!

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Date: 23 Feb 94 20:14:38 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL Repeater Directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM wrote:

: I have a real big problem with the idea that there are deliberate errors 
: purposely induced into what should be a reference book.  Maybe we should start
: a "repeater directory accuracy project" to confirm all the listings in the 
: ARRL directory to see if content errors exist.

I was the one who did the Washington (state) part for Conway's project; my
submission to him never saw the light of day because of the current hassle.
I will say that I did a lot more than just copy the ARRL directory:  most
Western Washington repeaters in the list are ones I have personally confirmed.
There are indeed corrections that I have included.  One even came from DFing
the repeater...bunny hunt practice.

I'd be willing to post my submission to Conway, with all the info that 
hasn't been independently verified deleted.  Any interest?

73, K7ITM

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Date: 23 Feb 94 22:16:48 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ysu.edu!malgudi.oar.net!picker!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Dayton parking
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

> This sort of conjures up the stereotype of the ham who is too lazy
> to get out of his operating chair and walk somewhere.  Someone once
> told me that Real DXers[tm] have country counts equal to their weight
> in lbs.
> 
> From what I've seen of the typical hamfest ham, most of them could
> do with a bit more walking around.

I among other DXers (actually my DXCC count is very close to my weight
as I approach Honor Roll) could lose a few pounds. Then there are slim
guys like Chod Harris. We're not all overweight.

As for Dayton, a walk to Salem Mall down the hill ain't unpleasant at
all unless its a downpour (like '93), or freezing (like '82), or tropical
like many other years. My group's philosophy (Armageddon ARC, Cleveland
and the World) is to use the busses. Once you're hooked on letting them
drive you to a nearby mall or your hotel, you'll never want to park
again. You do get some dirty looks with a Johnson Viking II straddled
on your lap, though.

Tis the season when hearts turn to Dayton.   73s....

   Al N8AGU

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Date: 23 Feb 94 13:01:35 GMT
From: mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Exam element credit - 1 yr.!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article o6m@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
}You have ONE YEAR EXACTLY from the date of passing an exam element to use it
}for getting a higher class license.
}
}Someone noted that they passed the General written, but haven't passed 13 wpm.
}You have exactly 1 year from the date of passing your general exam to pass
}the 13 wpm exam (i.e. utilize the General written credit), after which the 
}written exam credit will expire.
}
}Scott NF3I
}
}I don't remember if it's, for example, Nov. 7, 1993 - Nov. 6, 1994, or
}Nov. 7, 1993 - Nov. 7, 1994 (last day inclusive?)
}
}-- 
}73,             _________   _________  The
}       \ /  Long   Original
}Scott Rosenfeld  Amateur Radio NF3I  Burtonsville, MD  |   Live    $5.00
}  WAC-CW/SSB  WAS  DXCC - 123 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!


Actually, you have 365 days, so watch out during leap years.
Bruce, WB4YUC

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Date: 23 Feb 94 15:40:37 GMT
From: athos.cc.bellcore.com!blitzen.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Hammarlund HQ105TR - What is it?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In a local antique store I found an old Hammarlund boatanchor with model number 
HQ105TR. My question is simple: What is it?

The owner claims that it is a ham rig, but I'm not sure. In the back there
are provisions for coax, and two jacks that LOOK like mike and key, but
are unmarked. The bandspread knob has markings for CB channels (!), which
confuses the issue. From the dials I can see that coverage is 2-30 MHz.
Could it be a receiver only?

Also, is it worth the $60 they are asking for, assuming working order?
Any help would be appreciated.

Tnx de
___________________________________________________________________
George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO
karayan@cc.bellcore.com             Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.

-- 
___________________________________________________________________
George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO
karayan@cc.bellcore.com             Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.

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Date: 20 Feb 94 05:53:07 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!news.oc.com!utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HDN Releases
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 00:44:23 -0500
From: agate!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ames.arpa
Subject: John Ramsey
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Dana Myers <myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM> writes:
 
> * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
 
This Extra supports the abolition of those who support the abolition of
the 13 and 20 WPM tests.

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:08:42 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@ames.arpa
Subject: Looking for HT storage suggestions
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <CLMzMK.EJw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>,
witness@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Greg Sherwin) wrote:

> Is this a concern that should keep me from storing an HT in my trunk during
> the summer months?  Anyone have any similar experiences or wisdom to share?

Don't know about the specs, but off and on I have kept my IC24AT and before
that a Motorola HT under the front seat of my car in the Arizona sun for
many years.  I make sure they are out of the direct sunlight, but don't do
anything else special.

I have an Alinco DR590 that has been in the car full time for three years
now without problems.

Bottom line IMHO is that you shouldn't have any trouble with reasonable
care, although you might shorten the life of the NiCads some.

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Date: 23 Feb 94 16:52:26 GMT
From: titan.ksc.nasa.gov!k4dii.ksc.nasa.gov!user@ames.arpa
Subject: Low power Bird slugs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <8377@gold.gvg.tek.com>, groverc@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com wrote:
> Is there a Bird slug available that would do a credible job
> of measuring <5w signals in the range 3-30MHz?

WT6P-

I assume you refer to the common Bird model 43 wattmeter.  According to the
1992 Bird catalog, the lowest power slug for 2-30 MHz, is the 50H, 50 watt
element.  Whether a <5 watt reading would be "credible" or not, is
doubtful.

At the top of that frequency range, there is the 5A, 5 watt element for
25-60 MHz.  The 1 watt and 2.5 watt elements aren't available below 30 MHz.
 The "milliwatt" elements aren't available below 70 MHz.

If you haven't bought your wattmeter yet, there is the Bird model 4310,
which can use a single slug (4410-3) for 2-30 MHz, to switch-select 0-1, 3,
10, 100, 300, 1000 watts.  Slug 4410-10 covers 25-80 MHz, with 0-0.1, 0.3,
1, 3, 10, 30,100 watts.  In the 1986 price list, the 4410 was $495, the
4410-3 was $150 and the 4410-10 was $125.  I'm fairly sure the prices are
higher now!

As a point of interest, the model 43 is rated at 5% of full scale, while
the 4310 is rated at 5% of any READING above 20% of full scale.

73, Fred, K4DII

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Date: 23 Feb 94 17:40:36 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!dptspd!news.tamu.edu!mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx!not-for-mail!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: NEED RADIO
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

        Need a used radio. Motorola 2mts P110 or else.

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Date: 23 Feb 94 20:39:46 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>>where I took my exams, if you do not pass the codes, they don't let you
>>take the written exams (makes sense). So your being able to take the
>>written exam without the 13 wpm is something new to me.
>>N3RKD
>
>I don't know of any reason why you can't take all the written tests w/o 
>passing a code test first.  You certainly can have written credit w/o having 
>code credit.
>
>a long time ago this was not the case, but today there is no reason not to go 
>ahead and give someone a written.  having that credit can be an incentive to 
>get moving on the code.  I know I had extra written credit twice (the first 
>time a few years ago, i never got my code up.  the 2nd time, i did make it 
>after about 3-4 months....)
>
>sounds like your VE team needs to get up to date.  I know we do written credit
>only --

Most VE teams today will give credit for ANY element passed.  You don't
even need to take them in order.  Theoretically, you could start at Extra,
and work DOWN to Novice, although at testing sessions we generally 
recommend that people work UPwards.  Occasionally, we have had a person
come in and have not realized that the "No-code Tech" exam ALSO consisted
of ELEMENT 2!  So they are totally unprepared to take the Novice test, 
and fail miserably, but ace the Tech 3A exam.  How anyone could study for
a license and NOT know this is beyond me, but I HAVE seen it happen.


-- 
73,             _________   _________  The
       \ /  Long   Original
Scott Rosenfeld  Amateur Radio NF3I  Burtonsville, MD  |   Live    $5.00
  WAC-CW/SSB  WAS  DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!

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Date: 23 Feb 94 21:50:48 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Jeffrey D. Angus (jangus@skyld.grendel.com) wrote:


:   I watched the entire episode from the start on rec.radio.cb. From what
:   I saw you got your wannabe basket-weave belt accessories in a knot when
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I love it!! Can I have this for my very own?


P.S.  If Jeff is as uptight about gays as he is about the use of the 
airwaves is he a hamster and gerbil cop?  :-)

cheers,
Dan
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*                   Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu                      *
*                 Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102                       *
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Date: 23 Feb 94 14:06:13 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Rolling RF NOISE!!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <holdwick_marc-220294134932@mac-am-47.cig.mot.com>,
holdwick_marc@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com (Marc Holdwick) wrote:

> 
> My parents have a 1990 Accord which failed to start one day.  It was traced
> to a bad ignition module.  About a year after my dad had it replaced (out
> of his own pocket) Honda sent out a notice referring to this problem and
> reimbursed my father.
> 
> I'm not sure if a new style of ignition module was used.  Perhaps that is
> the problem.  Could you ask the dealership what EXACTLY was "fixed".  If a
> new part was used what part did it replace?
> 
> If it is something other than the ignition module I would be really
> interested in knowing as I have a high milage (140k) 1985 Chevy Caprice
> which has *terrible* ignition noise.  I have checked all of the usual
> items:  Plugs, cables but to no avail.  I think there might be a problem in
> the distributor.  (I'm sure that SOMEWHERE, in some police garage there is
> a mechanic who has solved my EXACT problem - too bad there isn't a
> rec.radio.police.caprice.RFI newsgroup)
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Marc - N8KWX

I had a Mercury Topaz that exhibited similar problems for 
about two months, after which the ignition coil failed and 
I sat at the side of the road for a while. When the dealer 
replaced the coil, all the noise problems went away, and they 
even left my big coaxial capacitor in place on the lead to the 
new coil. The Topaz also had an electric fuel pump inside the 
gasoline tank which generated tremendous amounts of RF hash. 
Ford has a standard RF filter for the fuel pump.

-- 
Karl Beckman, P.E.           < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
Motorola Comm - Fixed Data   < no earthquake is a match.  --  Karl Kraus >


Some of the opinions expressed above aren't even claimed by the author!
Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA         NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 05:41:06 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!slay@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <steve.761771155@netsys.com>, <1994Feb22.122512.18239@afit.af.mil>, <1994Feb22.160515.24890@isc-br.isc-br.com>
Subject : Re: Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?

Bruce Oscarson (bruceo@loki.isc-br.com) wrote:
: I passed my General written exam a while back, but was only able to
: copy 5 wpm.

: Does anyone know how long I have to pass the 13 wpm before I have to
: take the written exam over again?

At the time for your exam, you should have been issued a CSCE for the
written and CW elements you were able to pass.  That CSCE is valid for
exactly one year - and no more. [I had a fellow who came in to our
exam session one year plus one day after his CSCE had been issued and
very unfortunately, it was no longer valid.]

Cheers de Sandy   WA6BXH/7J1ABV   slay@netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 00:05:22 -0500
From: agate!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CKIHK9.2ss@ucdavis.edu>, <CKKnFq.M24@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <2j6dal$5m7@apple.com>
Subject : Re: Boring WWV Programs

very good and clever response, 73, N6WR,

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Date: 23 Feb 94 21:44:32 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2jubh6INNl25@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <RqzI+RX.armond@delphi.com>, <2kerpe$duh@spool.cs.wisc.edu> 
Subject : Re: John Ramsey

Jason Hanson (jason@yar.cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
: In article <RqzI+RX.armond@delphi.com>,  <armond@delphi.com> wrote:
: >Dana Myers <myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM> writes:
: > 
: >> * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
: > 
: >This Extra supports the abolition of those who support the abolition of
: >the 13 and 20 WPM tests.

: This Extra supports the abolition of delphi posters from the net.

Well,
Here is a really interesting example of how to treat the no-code 
license.  Think of Delphi as the internet equivelent to a no-code 
ticket.  Delphi brought a lot of new users into the internet just as the  
no-code ticket brought a bunch of new hams in to amateur radio.  Delphi, 
like the no-code ticket is a good way for the uninitiated (those without 
elmers) to get involved with a great communication medium.  Instead of 
flaming this guy or suggesting we abolish all Delphi users, it may be 
more productive to suggest that he ftp from rtfm.mit.edu the FAQ for 
news.announce.newusers or news.newusers.questions perhaps you could 
read the FAQ directly from the newsgroups.  There are also netiquette 
docs out there, if you need some, I'll help find them for you.
Or if that doesn't work we can just give Jeff his address and he can 
include it in this weeks call to the FCC. You never know this message 
was sent via RF somewhere along the way!!!


Dan
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*                   Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu                      *
*                 Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102                       *
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:32:53 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <2k0eup$k3o@crcnis1.unl.edu>, <rcrw90-180294093408@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <2kcdqj$nto@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions

In article <2kcdqj$nto@crcnis1.unl.edu>, mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary
McDuffie Sr) wrote:

> rcrw90@email.mot.com (Mike Waters) writes:
> 
>  >The need is not to show that someone *is* or *could* cheat, but for them to
>  >prove that they *could not* cheat..  If you want to use some piece of
>  >equipment in a testing session *you* must show that (a) you are not using
>  >it to cheat and (b) it won't disturb the other test takers.
> 
> Oh, we are back to guilty_until_proven_innocent now? Be real!

No one is being accused of anything - just making sure the test is fair for
all.
 
>  >Showing an empty hard drive or none at all is one very easy way to do this.
>  > Certainly there are other waysto do this.  Remember the onus in not on the
>  >VEs to try to anticipate every possible way for someone to cheat, but to
>  >ensure fair tests
> 
> You failed to answer the question. What has a hard drive got to do 
> with cheating? How is a hard drive going to help you cheat?

As I stated in my previous post, I have no idea how you might use a hard
drive to cheat and I don't care!  That is my answer - IT DOESN'T MATTER!

I would feel the same about bringing in absolutly anything that is not
needed in the exam room - a dictionary, a book on morse code, or a tape
recorder all fall into that class.

My point is that you shouldn't have any question of cheating.

This is not a contest to see what creative things you can do to "get
around" the VEs - they are volunteers who are trying to help people show
they are qualified and "sticking their necks out" to do so I might add.  If
someone cheats in one of my VE sessions *my* license and reputation is on
the line!  I don't intend to risk either just to be a "nice guy", but I
will do all I can to help someone who has a legitimate problem.

If you don't like it then you are free either to do it better or try to
find someone else who will, certainly it won't cost *me* any money or any
sleep.

If I run the testing session you will have to show me that you don't have
anything that could allow you to cheat - period.  I suspect that you will
find just about every other VE feels the same way.

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