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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #178
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Info-Hams Digest Sat, 19 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 178
Today's Topics:
Data connection by radio?
DJ-580 UHF receive ragne
EOSS Balloon Flight In Denver
Hawaiian 2m repeaters?
Iambic keyer paddles
ICOM IC-28 series mods needed
John Ramsey
Nude QSL cards
VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 18 February
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Date: 17 Feb 1994 16:34:48 -0500
From: mary.iia.org!mary.iia.org!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Data connection by radio?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I would like to know if anyone has tried establishing a data link by ham
radio... I am not a ham now, but would be interested in haveing a
system by which I could keep in contact with the net in my car with a
laptop. If I could do this, I assume I could just as easily also have a
mobile telephone. (Yes, i'm too cheap for a cell phone :)
Thanks for the advice -
--
W. Robert Nelson (gsa@iia.org)
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:26:54 GMT
From: EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!hookup!ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@uunet.uu.net
Subject: DJ-580 UHF receive ragne
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2k0u9l$bj9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, ruentien@maverick.Corp.Sun.COM (Ruentien Lu) writes:
|> hi, guys:
|>
|> I recently purchase a ALINCO DJ-580, it is a great radio. The quality of audio is great. I have no complaint about this rig.
|> I got one question here, the menu stated the receive range for UHF is from 430 to 470 Mhz, but what I found is that I can make it from 400 to 520 Mhz. I didn't make any modification on this rig, I don't know this is misinformed on menu? or .....
|> Any answer will be appreciated!!
|>
|>
|> PS. I don't have call-sign yet, just pass the test last week.
|>
It will DISPLAY up to 520, but you will note that after about 487 the decimal
point disappears, meaning that the PLL will not lock and you will not
actually receive anything. It will also display down to 810 but will not
lock below about 860. The 487 and 860 numbers depend on the individual
radio, but that is what mine does. Bye...
--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Tom Bodoh - Sr. systems software engineer, Hughes STX, N0YGT +
+ USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 22:37:50 GMT
From: cns!rickvg@uunet.uu.net
Subject: EOSS Balloon Flight In Denver
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
For Followups to this post check the newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.space
Edge of Space Sciences, Inc. (EOSS) is a non-profit organization
comprised of individuals interested in the use of high altitude balloon
flights to offer an experimental platform for students and other
experimenters. The group has a very high level of participation by
amateur radio operators, however, this is NOT a requirement for
membership and participation.
EOSS has flown 14 successful flights over the past few years. We
regularly fly amateur television, and a suite of atmospheric sensors.
Other experimental payloads have included, GPS and LORAN-C for a
comparison of their accuracy. Homebrew differential GPS on the same
flight. Students of Coloraro University at Boulder (CU) created their
own differential system using a gps receiver at a KNOWN location, and
calculated the offsets themselves, allowing the GPS vs. LORAN-C
comparison greater accuracy.
EOSS hosted last year's "National Balloon Symposium" in Denver Colorado.
People from more than 10 states, and Canada were in attendance as well
as some of the commercial providers of equipment used in our "hobby".
We plan to fly EOSS-15 soon and here is our general information release
about this flight. If you have any questions about the flight or EOSS
please use email to my address (sig file at bottom).
EOSS-15 FLIGHT PROFILE
LAUNCH SITE:
Thunder Ridge Middle School
Picadilly and Smokey Hill Rd.
Aurora, Colorado, USA
latitude 39.61195 deg North
longitude 104.75050 deg West
(The lat/lon is actually for a location within 1 mile of launch point. I
haven't been to the launch site to take an accruate fix yet.)
LAUNCH DATE: February 26,1994
LAUNCH TIME: 1600 UTC (Set up 1400 UTC) Launch time subject to FAA approval
ON-BOARD EXPERIMENT: Conducted by Cherry Creek High School.
PURPOSE: To measure the various levels of alpha, beta, and gamma radiation at
various altitudes.
SHUTTLE FREQUENCIES:
Packet: 144.340
ATV: 426.250
CW Beacon: 147.555
Carries the call of WB4ETT
There will be a HF net run by Sparky\ KA0DPC on 7.232 MHz (phone). And the
FOXHUNTER'S will coordinate on the Colorado Repeater Association's repeater
147.225 MHz (+600kHz). This will also be used for some local information
during the flight. Thanks in advance to the Colorado Repeater Association
for the use of their repeater.
REMARKS: Edge of Space Sciences will provide the platform for Cherry
Creek High School and Thunder Ridge Middle School to study the lower
atmosphere. Cherry Creek H.S. students have modified a geiger counter
to meet the EOSS interface specifications which will measure the alpha,
beta, and gamma levels of radiation vs. altitude. The experiment will
gather data that should interest local NASA and NOAA officials.
Thunder Ridge M.S. students will make graphs that will help them
understand the temperature vs. altitude and balloon dynamics by
graphing the ascent and descent rate of the balloon.
The project will be presented at this years Denver, News 4 Education
Exposition at the Colorado Convention Center on March 11,12,13 1994.
More information about the EXPO can be obtained from EOSS.
Sponsorship for this flight and Education Exposition have been provided by:
Olde Antenna Lab
Dave Clingerman (W6OAL)
4725 W. Quincy
Num 1014
Denver, CO 80236
303-798-5926
303-498-3820
for his:
70 cm ATV Candelabra Antenna
GPS Wheel Antenna
Financial support in Sponsoring EOSS at the KCNC Expo
AT&T
for their:
Financial support in Sponsoring EOSS at the KCNC Expo
SUBMITTED on packet BY: Brian Thomas\N0VSA ground station co-lead
N0VSA@W0GVT.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM
relayed to internet by:
Rick von Glahn
rickvg@cscns.com -- Internet (preferred)
74620,637 -- Compuserve
N0KKZ@W0GVT.#NECO.CO.USA -- packet radio
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 09:30:08 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: Hawaiian 2m repeaters?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2k16tj$4lh@ornews.intel.com> zardoz@ornews.intel.com (Jim Garver) writes:
>In article <jjhanso1.219.2D63EB23@students.wisc.edu> jjhanso1@students.wisc.edu (Jason J. Hanson) writes:
>>I'll be in Hawaii (on Maui and in Honolulu) from March 25-April 6 and was
>>wondering if anyone could provide some advice as to good 2m repeaters...
>
>When I was over there in Sept. about 2 years ago, I didn't hear much
>repeater activity on 2 meters at all. I visited Big Island and Oahu.
>I did find some highly unusual activity on 2 meter simplex in Honolulu.
>Be sure to scan the whole band for this stuff.
I'm only on HF but let me try to give you some frequencies from
memory:
Honolulu City Hall: 146.98 (Oahu County Civil Defense / RACES)
Waianae (West Oahu) 146.84 (ARES)
Diamond Head 147.07 (or 09)
Diamond Head 147.28
plus at least a dozen more but that should get you started. There's
actually a statewide system set up - linked via microwave. The guys
on the above machines will be able to give you more frequencies.
Make sure you bring an umbrella - we've just had a solid week of
tropical thunderstorm activity - 8 inches of rain fell within a
6 hour period and was it ever cold: 78 degrees during the day, and
only 68 at night - brrrrr - had to start using a blanket at night.
73,
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:38:55 +0000
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!llondel.demon.co.uk!dave@ames.arpa
Subject: Iambic keyer paddles
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am left handed but I normally send with my right hand, regardless of
whether I am using a straight key or an iambic keyer. I can switch to my
left hand if I want without having to rewire the keyer.
Having said that, on the rare occasion I get to use CW now, I tend to loaf
along at <20wpm - perhaps at higher speed the left hand would go wrong.
Dave
--
*****************************************************************************
* G4WRW @ GB7WRW.#41.GBR.EU AX25 * Start at the beginning. Go on *
* dave@llondel.demon.co.uk Internet * until the end. Then stop. *
* g4wrw@g4wrw.ampr.org Amprnet * (the king to the white rabbit) *
*****************************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:07:18 GMT
From: psinntp!relay1!rsvl_ns!ernie!rsvl.unisys.com!wilpwr@uunet.uu.net
Subject: ICOM IC-28 series mods needed
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <BAzKNJu.lmarrin@delphi.com> lmarrin@delphi.com writes:
>From: lmarrin@delphi.com
>Subject: Re: ICOM IC-28 series mods needed
>Date: 12 Feb 94 03:26:30 GMT
>Gary following is a transmit mod for the Icom 28. A friend tried it
>and it works.
>
>By the way, the Icom 28 is very popular among the small fishing fleets
>in California, as the transmit mod is very easy. Commerical fisherman
>sometimes do a lot of bootlegging, in the hope that competing fleets
>won't be listening in.
>
>73 from Leigh/KM6JE in Santa Barbara.
>________________
>==== BOYAN Log to Disk, 08/03/93 at 03:08 ====
>From : GI4NDX @ GI4NDX
>To : ICOM @ ALLUS
>Date : 910908/1749
>Msgid : BF 125@GI4NDX, 1055@K6TZ $125_GI4NDX
>Subject : IC28 MOD
>Path :
>K6IYK!KB6JES!KB6RAA!KA0WIN!N4UTO!WN4IIV!W1FJI!W1EOH!WB4RHO!K4RY!W4AP!W
>
>D4AGG!WD4PPF!N4WZL!K4BFT!WB4TTZ!GI4NDX
>
>
>ICOM IC-28A AND IC-28H
>
>To make the IC-28 transmit 138-174 MHz, cut D21 (no retuning
>required). D21 is a tiny glass diode standing on-end near the center
>of the upper circuit board, accessible by removing the top cover. The
>IC-28 is the only convertible ham rig I know that covers the 170-MHz
>federal government (including national park) frequencies.
>
>[source: W9MKV]
>
>
>
>
>
> END <<< MSG #1055 >>> on
>K6TZ BBS.
>(Original MSG #125 from GI4NDX @ GI4NDX. filed on 910908/1749)
>
FWIW, when I modified my IC-28 for MARS use, instead of just cutting the
diode, I ran it through a switch and a subminiature LED so that I could
avoid accidentally transmitting where I shouldn't. The LED lights whenever the
rig is set to transmit outside 14x MHz.
73, Bill.
Bill Powers WY0Q <wilpwr@rsvl.unisys.com>
<powe0040@gold.tc.umn.edu>
UNISYS Corp.
MS 4033 Phone: [612] 635-5267
P.O. Box 64942 FAX: [612] 635-7523
St. Paul, MN 55164-0942
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 21:05:34 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!direct!kg7bk@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: John Ramsey
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Dana Myers (myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM) wrote:
: What other newsgroup should we discuss this in?
How about
alt.revenge.vendetta.character.assassination.hurt.Ramsey's.business?
: a good business does not berate customers in the presence of other
: customers. Are you suggesting this is not true? * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ
Dana, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and for the sake of this
discussion, accept what you have said as true... that John Ramsey berated
Jeff Gold in a private telephone conversation with you. Now who is the
worst offender of common decency and professional ethics... one who
berates an individual in a private telephone conversation or one who
berates an individual in public on Internet? Seeking professional revenge
for a personal insult seems like extreme overkill to me.
I didn't understand until you told me just now that Jeff was
complaining about a personal problem rather than a transceiver. In my
opinion, the only objective question to be answered here is, does Ramsey
make a resonable transceiver for the money? The votes are obviously split
and the free market will decide the answer.
73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:35:07 +0000
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!llondel.demon.co.uk!dave@ames.arpa
Subject: Nude QSL cards
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The subject brings a whole new dimension to the phrase 'Have you got all my
details' as heard in contests :-)
I bet the cards aren't as bad as some of the SSTV pictures often emanating
from Italy.......
Dave
--
*****************************************************************************
* G4WRW @ GB7WRW.#41.GBR.EU AX25 * Start at the beginning. Go on *
* dave@llondel.demon.co.uk Internet * until the end. Then stop. *
* g4wrw@g4wrw.ampr.org Amprnet * (the king to the white rabbit) *
*****************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 94 08:31:25 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!infinet!n8emr!bulletin@ames.arpa
Subject: VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 18 February
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
==============================================================
| Automatic relayed from packet radio via |
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553 |
==============================================================
SB DX @ WW $RTDX0218
VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 18 February
VK2SG RTTY DX Notes for week ending 18 February 1994 (BID RTDX0218)
Really we must say that 3Y0PI is the DXPEDITION OF THE YEAR '94 and
our congratulations go to the all the crew for having shown to all of
us a real example of wonderful operation under severe conditions. Was
excited, during my qso, to see on the screen Luciano, Luciano,
Luciano, 599 599 from 3Y0PI. Tnx Tony, WA4JQS and Luis, XE1L for the
outstanding effort repairing rtty gear.
Our thanks this week go to ZS5S, W2JGR, WB2CJL, 9X5LJ, I5ICY, I5IGQ
and IK5PWJ Packet Cluster, DJ3IW and the Central Europe DX Cluster
node DB0SPC, the NJ0M node of the Twin Cities.
Bandpass:
Friday 11
0141-14090 V31JU
0644-14087 6W6JX
0649-14085 AH3D QSL JA1HGY see note
0701-14085 UT5RP
1505-14087 RA2FB
1837-21083 ZD7DP
1936-14086 CN8NP
2008-14082 V31JU
2050-14095 C91J
2145-14089 CX3ABE
Saturday 12
0018-14084 VP8WA
0641-14085 AH3D
0702-21070 Z21HS ARQ
0745-14085 SV5BYP
0840-14084 6W6JX
0854-21083 ZD7DP
1007-14084 SU1AH
1019-21070 7Q7LA ARQ
1335-14084 UN7LR
1338-14088 OD5PL
1309-14082 ER1PE
1351-14089 J28JJ
1409-14083 S50C
1534-21087 ZS9A
1552-21090 TZ6FIC
1602-21087 FG5FI
1635-21088 HH2PK
1716- 7037 EZ5AA
1746-21083 5R8DG
1843-21085 ZD7SM
2139-21091 AH6JF
2215-14082 3Y8PI QSL KA6V
2234-14083 FY5FJ
Sunday 13
0251- 3577 HH2PK
0516- 7039 HH2PK
0634-14087 EZ5AA
0640-14088 5B4VX
0816-21083 EZ5AA
0948-14084 TA5C
0959-21089 OD5PL
1044-28082 EZ5AA
1144-21085 4X6UO
1325-14087 YL3FW
1327-14083 S51DX
1336-21088 HH2PK
1405-14082 SV9ABG
1429-21086 PJ9JT
1435-21084 HP1AC
1440-14082 KG4CW
1436-21087 YI1AL
1438-21084 CP1FF
1522-21085 ZD7DP
1529-28087 9H1ET
1550-21090 FG5FI
1624-14081 J28JJ
1711-14084 HP1XVI
1919-21087 9J2HN
Monday 14
0243-14082 3Y0PI
2143-14087 FG5GH
Tuesday 15
0624-14085 C91AI
1445-14083 WP4Q
Wednesday 16
0800-14082 EA6NB
1455-21088 CU1AC
1512-14087 UT5DX
1548-14084 3A2LZ
1605-14087 EA8/ON8RI
Thursday 17
0845-14086 OM2GI
0850-14082 YL1ZE
0907-14085 UR0VS
1725-14086 S92ZM
Notes of Interest
ST. PETER & PAUL ZY0. The operators on the Feb. 7th had severe
problems with both generators. Fault was located on the kick-off
cables which could not be repaired due to lack of suitable tools.
They had to run on battery with about 10 watts until Feb. 14.
AH3D/KH0 Activity. Members of the International DX Golf Tournament
have been active from 9 to 13 February as AH3D/KH0. While the SSB
spot were reporting that call sign on RTTY no mention of /KH0 ??
BELIZE, V3. Large activity is expected from this country. Look for
V31PP from 19 Feb to 12 March on all bands SSB and RTTY. Another
operation is planned from Sigi, DL7UUO from 20 Feb. to March 3rd using
V31UO on SSB, CW, RTTY and PACTOR.
GEORGIA, 4L. Piero, IK2BHX is now in Tiblisi as 4L1HX and will be
there for a year. He promised RTTY activity soon. QSL via IK2MRZ.
Send your bandpass and notes for next week to Bob,
WB2CJL @ W5KSI.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA or WB2CJL @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF.
GL de (DX2) Luciano, I5FLN @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF
/EX
SP KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 09:57:37 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2k2r9g$e2v@bigfoot.wustl.edu>, <CLGG3G.EMB@news.direct.net>, <2k4hh4$4q2@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
Subject : Re: Jeff Gold
In article <2k4hh4$4q2@bigfoot.wustl.edu> jlw3@cec2.wustl.edu (Jesse L Wei) writes: ..........
>the same as the dictionary definition. By the way, my dictionary also has
>"4. a mysterious quality of enchantment: e.g. the magic of the distant past."
>
>I only hope you're arguing (well maybe just contradicting) just for the
>sake of doing so. If not, I'd be somewhat doubtful about your eloquence
>in public speaking. People, especially writers, tend to use anologies
^^^^^^^^^
As long as you've got that dictionary open.......
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 09:45:34 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2k2r9g$e2v@bigfoot.wustl.edu>, <CLGG3G.EMB@news.direct.net>, <2k49diINNmp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
Subject : Dana Myers (was: Jeff Gold (was: John Ramsey))
In article <2k49diINNmp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
> .............................
>You're missing the point entirely! Either that or you refuse to see it.
>The "Jeff Gold" post was intentionally insulting and inflammatory, and
>it completely flies in the face of your earlier statement that Jeff
>Gold is "less than human". Attacking Jeff Gold because you don't
>like his postings *doesn't* belong on rec.radio.amateur.misc, it
>would be fine in alt.flame, where it seems many hams won't go have
>the flame fests but should.
Does anyone else see the irony in this last statement?
``Physician - heal thyself.''
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: 19 Feb 1994 08:10:12 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec2!jlw3@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CLFDMz.ICJ@news.direct.net>, <2k2r9g$e2v@bigfoot.wustl.edu>, <CLGG3G.EMB@news.direct.net>
Subject : Re: Jeff Gold
Cecil Moore (kg7bk@indirect.com) wrote:
: Jesse L Wei (jlw3@cec3.wustl.edu) wrote:
: : Seems pretty magical to me. -jesse
: "magic - the pretended art of producing marvelous results by compelling the
: aid of spirits, or by using the secret forces of nature." OK, Jesse, let's
: see some of those spirits and/or secret forces of nature.
connotation is different than denotation. Common usage is not necessarily
the same as the dictionary definition. By the way, my dictionary also has
"4. a mysterious quality of enchantment: e.g. the magic of the distant past."
I only hope you're arguing (well maybe just contradicting) just for the
sake of doing so. If not, I'd be somewhat doubtful about your eloquence
in public speaking. People, especially writers, tend to use anologies
and a measure of literary freedom to keep reading material from getting
banal.
Oh gosh, look where this thread has lead. A silly argument!
--jesse
(maybe I should resist the temptation to keep defending my ideas and
let the thread die)
OK I concede this thread to you. But just remember that not everybody
has your position on this matter. Especially me. And maybe Gold.
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Date: 19 Feb 1994 07:54:04 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec2!jlw3@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2jqu8k$96m@news.acns.nwu.edu>, <2jr13kINNkbv@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <CLGF6o.E18@news.direct.net>
Subject : Re: Ramsey slams ARRL (was Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER)
Cecil Moore (kg7bk@indirect.com) wrote:
: Dana Myers (myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM) wrote:
: : If you have any kind of trouble with Ramsey kits, you run the risk of
: : being slandered. * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ
: Slander has a legal definition. It is next to impossible to slander someone
: during a private telephone conversation. It is very easy to commit slander
: on Internet. Statements that can't be proven resulting in monitary loss is
: all one needs to prove slander. Who did you say got slandered?
I'm not a legal expert here but, who ever said monitary loss is necessary
for slander to occur? _American Heritage Dictionary_:
slander n. 1. Law. The utterance of defamatory statements injurious
to the reputation or well-being of a person. 2. A malicious statement
or report.
Now again, like guilt, slander is not something that has to be proven to
be existant. Tonya Harding (sorry, I've been following rec.skate) is
frequently said to be "innocent until proven guilty." This doesn't mean
that if she's innocent the court can make her guilty. It can say she's
innocent or guilty but can't change the reality of her actions (or lack
thereof). Slander, likewise, isn't only existant if it is legally proven.
It happens if it happens. Whether somebody can get compensation for being
the victim is another matter altogether.
Now I'd say that (at least from past and recent postings) Ramsey hasn't
exactly lived up to the expectation for his products. Now somebody
saying that he was not happy with somebody else's product is entitled to
that opinion. Whether or not you decide to take this opinion is another
matter altogether. I don't know both sides of the story here, but from
what I've seen, both Jeff and Ramsey have uttered some measure of slander
--however, it seems to me that Ramsey's was unnecessary and done out of
irrationality.
MHO,
jesse
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 21:13:58 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!direct!kg7bk@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CLC3pH.GoM@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <CLCoK9.o1@news.direct.net>, <2jutgl$k1o@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject : Re: John Ramsey
Gregory Lapin (lapin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: To those who are Ramsey proponents, DID YOU PUT THE THING ON A SPECTRUM
: ANALYZER BEFORE PUTTING IT ON THE AIR?
Sure did.
: If so, what did you see? Greg Lapin KD9AZ
It met FCC specs, if that is what you mean. I made a couple of minor
improvements while I was building it so I don't know what it looked
like before the improvements. A friend of mine built one that didn't
work. Most of the component leads were about 1/2 inches long. Told him
to go lick his calf over again.
73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 06:29:50 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CLAz5v.Iss@news.direct.net>, <CLC3pH.GoM@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <CLCoK9.o1@news.direct.net>
Subject : Re: John Ramsey
In article <CLCoK9.o1@news.direct.net> kg7bk@indirect.com (Cecil Moore) writes:
>Jeff Herman (jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
>
>: Jeff got his point across - we understood what he said quite
>: clearly, and I don't think anyone (except you) cares how he said it:
>
>Seems like a statement of what's wrong with this country... nobody cares,
>(except me). I wonder if Elmering will survive?
>
>: Oh, by the way: I am a mathematics lecturer - isn't `lecturer' a thing
>: just like `liar'. Jeff NH6IL
>
>Jeff, Sometimes 'lecturers' are like 'liars'. :-) I like teachers better.
>If it makes you happy, please edit "thing" into "bad-thing" or "xxx".
>How come I can't reply to you? jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu bounced.
>
>73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
>
Because we had 8 inches of rain in 6 hours - internet became interiorwet!
We have 3 UNIX mainframes here - unix3 doesn't like to let in anything
from the outside - just drop the `3'.
Now, have you, Cecil, or anyone else, built any of Ramsey's HF QRP xmtrs?
For $30 I might get one of those pup's for 20M (but from what I hear
I think a low pass filter might be in order).
73,
Jeff NH6IL
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