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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #149
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Info-Hams Digest Sun, 13 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 149
Today's Topics:
BP-8S battery for HTX-202 ?
Club Stn. U of Illinois??
Golf Causes Cancer!
Law changing?
N connectors (was Re: "Flexible" 9913 (Was - Re: Coaxial cab
Opinions on ARRL Tech Videos (for Kids)?
RA3AR - penpal?
RB313 Semantics 3/7 - Coordinators
Readership Report for the Radio-Related Usenet Newsgroups
verifying subscription address
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 03:41:17 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!news.bu.edu!att-in!cbnewsm!hellman@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BP-8S battery for HTX-202 ?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <PARTOS.94Feb5232328@larry.larc.nasa.gov>, partos@larry.larc.nasa.gov (Dick Partos) writes:
> Does anyone know if the RS HTX-202 can accept the Icom BP-8S battery?
> The battery is rated at 9.6v. Is this too high for the 202 ? I know
> there is a limit to the voltage of the batteries the 202 can
> accomodate, even though it will accept 13.8v via the input on top of
> the radio. Apparently there is a circuitry difference in the two
> inputs, but I don't know what the maximum battery voltage is. Any help
> or experiences appreciated. Dick KE4AZJ
> --
> |----------------------------------------------------------------|
> | Richard D. Partos KE4AZJ Norfolk, VA |
> | Internet: r.d.partos@larc.nasa.gov |
> |----------------------------------------------------------------|
Please explain to me why you think that is the case. My schemetic
shows no difference between the ext dc input and the battery input.
Shel Darack WA2UBK dara@physics.att.com
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 13:08:51 -0500
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!kp2a+@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Club Stn. U of Illinois??
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Is there an amateur radio club station at the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign? If so, is it possible for visitors to use it on HF?
Thanks.
Keith Poole K7MOA/3
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 14:56:50 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@ames.arpa
Subject: Golf Causes Cancer!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Feb10.134419.7253@ccd.harris.com> drs@ccd.harris.com (Doug Snowden) writes:
>Alan Bloom (alanb@sr.hp.com) wrote:
>: I heard a report on the (radio) network news last night to the effect
>: that the national association of golf course managers funded a study
>: to investigate the death rates of golf course managers. The study
>: found that golf course managers have death rates from several kinds
>: of cancer that are significantly higher than the national norm. The
>: study tabulated cause of death from death certificates.
>
>: Sounds exactly like the famous Milham study of amateur radio operators
>: which implied that exposure to RF radiation causes cancer. I wonder
>: what the cause is for the golf course managers: too much fresh air?
>
>I think the answer is obvious (if you weren't kidding), pesticides and
>fertilizer.....Doug, N4IJ
Not so obvious. Studies tracking cancer rates among farmers show hot
spots as well as areas of reduced cancer incidence among farmers in
various parts of the country. No correlations to pesticide or fertilizer
types or usage have been found, just geographic anomalies. What that
means isn't exactly clear, but it shows that there's no one to one
correlation between either pesticide or fertilizer use and cancer
incidence. (My personal *opinion* is that what's being seen is the
result of genetics, IE farmers aren't known to move about much and
tend to marry locals, so genetic predisposition for certain cancers
can be amplified in certain geographic areas.) Farming, of course,
continues to be the most dangerous occupation in the US with more
occupational injuries and deaths than any other large scale occupation.
By comparison, the occupation of police officer is rated rather low
on the scale of occupational risk. Just goes to show how perceptions
and reality often don't match.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 01:29:31 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!linley@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Law changing?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In ye olden post mike@garfield.csuohio.edu (mike mayer) spake...
>mgb@crl.com (Michael G. Beck) writes:
>: When I was perusing the HRO catalog, on the top of a page that was
>: advertising Receivers it said "Get Them before the Law changes!"
>:
>: My question is - What Law, and how is it going to change?
>:
>Probably referring to the fact that after April (26th.?) 1994
>scanners with cellular reception or that are easily cellular-modifiable
>will no longer be approved for manufacture by the FCC, and will no
Does this law only apply to receivers? Plenty of transceivers can be
"easily modified" (whatever that means) to pick up cellular. Heck, some
of the HTs in there like the Icom W2A and 2SRA tune cellular without
modifications. I'd hate to see prices go up because manufacturers are
being made to re-design all their US equipment to comply with a stupid law
bought by cellular carriers. Build a (869-894MHz) radio, go to jail. Sheesh.
--
Bruce James Robert Linley | ___________, ,-----/^\-----. | "I never wanted to
linley@netcom.com KE6EQZ | \_NCC-1701_) `-..--\_/-----' | be anything but
------------------------- | _\\______//_ | an engineer."
main(){while(fork()>=0);} | (____________) | - Montgomery Scott
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Date: 8 Feb 1994 15:39:19 GMT
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!news.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: N connectors (was Re: "Flexible" 9913 (Was - Re: Coaxial cab
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2j6rtmINNf0s@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM
(Dana Myers ) wrote:
> >Actually, most equipment for dual-band use is sold with so-239 and pl-259
> >connectors. The loss isn't that much so you'd actually notice it. You'll
> >find N used in applications where every bit of loss counts like repeaters
> >etc.
>
> N connectors also make an effort to be weather resistant where PL-259/SO-239
> do not. Land mobile radios seem to use SO-239 up to UHF (512MHZ max), then
> N connectors (800/900, etc.).
>
I had forgotten the weather resistance issue. But you're right in that most
land-mobile radios tend to use SO-239 instead of N. But buy a UHF repeater
and guess what, N connectors. By the way, I've finally met an N connector
that I like. It's for the 9913 and it's GREAT! You don't have to comb out
braid, you don't have to go nuts with 9 different parts, etc. This one is
two pieces, you strip the coax down a bit, screw it in, use a bit of solder
and you're in business.
Tony
--
== Anthony_Pelliccio@Brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR)
== Brown University Alumni & Development Computing Services
== Box 1908, Providence, RI 02912 Tel. (401) 863-1880
== I speak for myself, and not for Brown University. Remember that!
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Date: 9 Feb 1994 02:57:43 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!slip-2-91.ots.utexas.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Opinions on ARRL Tech Videos (for Kids)?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone out in Greater Netland have any experience with the ARRL
videos, designed to help you get your no-code Tech license? The $99 set is
advertised on pages 20 & 21 of the February QST.
Would they be suitable for use as a study aid for 8 to 10 year old
children?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
_ Miles Abernathy, N5KOB =
| |__ miles@mbs.telesys.utexas.edu =
_| | POB 7580, Austin TX 78713 =
\ * / University of Texas @ Austin =
\/ tel. (512) 471-6521 U.S.A. =
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 13:22:09 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!slay@ames.arpa
Subject: RA3AR - penpal?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Around 25 years ago, I started to receive and exchange letters
with a Russian ham - Anatoly Repin who at the time had held the
callsigns UV0IA and UW1BF. We exchanged several letters and photos.
Our letters trailed off after I moved away from home for college
and career. Then, a couple of years ago, while living in Japan, I
once again started receiving letters from him forwarded to me from my
US callbook address. This time he explained that he was an ethnic
Finn and now used the name Toivo Laimitanen. His current callsign
is RA3AR. He sent several photos of himself and I have seen seen some
of these photos appear in the past year or so in a couple of ham
magazines (QST and DX Magazine, I think). His letters have described
some of the severe hardships he faces in the current times in Russia.
I am curious to know if any other hams have had similar exchanges
with him or others in the former Soviet Union.
Warmest 73 de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV
Packet: WA6BXH@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Internet: slay@netcom.com
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Date: 14 Feb 94 01:20:29 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: RB313 Semantics 3/7 - Coordinators
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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Subject: MGT - Semantics - Coordinator 3/7
COORDINATOR. This is probably the most misunderstood word in this
field. It is a common title in California but prohibited in
Hawaii government. It appears that most coordinators are
facilitators and have no authority. For those coordinators who
indeed have authority to provide direction and control, we feel
they should have another title. In the future we shall provide
you a very illuminating article written by a newspaper reporter
on the public confusion over the title coordinator. To add to the
confusion, some coordinators are really planners who are neither
facilitators or managers.
EMERGENCY COORDINATOR OR "E.C.": The title of a volunteer
appointed by the American Radio Relay League, an association of
Amateur Radio operators who sponsor a special interest group
called the ARES or Amateur Radio Emergency Service. The ARES
provides vital health and welfare communications and support to
disaster relief agencies such as the Red Cross, the Salvation
Army and others. In some cases an ARES EC may develop an
agreement specifying that ARES people will "switch hats" to
provide RACES support to a local government agency. Where the EC
is the RACES Radio Officer it takes an exceptionally well
qualified person not to confuse those two distinctly different
roles: the RACES is only Public Safety communications and the
ARES is predominantly public service. The title Emergency
Coordinator is also used by some jurisdictions in another context
and has no connection with Amateur Radio.
(3 of 7. Continued)
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 17:29:58 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@ames.arpa
Subject: Readership Report for the Radio-Related Usenet Newsgroups
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The following is reprinted from news.lists, with only the radio-related
newsgroups (and the first newsgroup for comparison) included.
>From: reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid)
>Newsgroups: news.lists
>Subject: USENET Readership report for Jan 94
>Date: 8 Feb 1994 13:59:13 -0800
>Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory
>Summary: data for all groups
>Keywords: arbitron, statistics, full
This is the full set of data from the USENET readership report for Jan 94.
Explanations of the figures are in a companion posting.
+-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
| +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
| | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
| | | +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
| | | | +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
| | | | | +-- Crossposting percentage
| | | | | | +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
| | | | | | | +-- Share: % of newsrders
| | | | | | | | who read this group.
V V V V V V V V
1 510000 6243 90% 2 25.1 100% 0.00 12.3% news.announce.newusers
211 91000 1114 77% 1314 4119.6 13% 0.06 2.2% rec.radio.amateur.misc
286 82000 1000 77% 1047 2547.4 6% 0.04 2.0% rec.radio.shortwave
417 72000 872 75% 470 537.3 9% 0.01 1.7% rec.radio.swap
542 64000 776 59% 391 575.9 17% 0.01 1.5% alt.radio.scanner
739 54000 662 74% 383 1012.5 1% 0.02 1.3% rec.radio.amateur.policy
939 48000 581 65% 155 1072.4 6% 0.02 1.1% rec.radio.info
963 47000 571 74% 130 221.1 19% 0.01 1.1% rec.radio.noncomm
969 47000 570 55% 663 977.4 9% 0.02 1.1% rec.radio.scanner
1007 45000 554 73% 184 354.6 3% 0.01 1.1% rec.radio.cb
1083 43000 529 58% 233 354.7 5% 0.01 1.0% rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
1143 42000 509 60% 321 660.1 5% 0.02 1.0% rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
1156 41000 504 58% 268 440.1 10% 0.01 1.0% rec.radio.amateur.antenna
1207 40000 488 67% 353 820.4 6% 0.02 1.0% rec.radio.broadcasting
1235 39000 478 54% 161 265.1 3% 0.01 0.9% alt.radio.pirate
1245 39000 474 58% 283 372.3 3% 0.01 0.9% rec.radio.amateur.equipment
1314 37000 451 57% 101 350.6 40% 0.01 0.9% rec.radio.amateur.space
1894 24000 294 37% 114 189.5 6% 0.00 0.6% alt.radio.networks.npr
2124 20000 240 50% - - - - 0.5% rec.radio.amateur.packet
2279 17000 202 32% 4 4.1 25% 0.00 0.4% rec.ham-radio
2293 16000 199 31% 8 11.9 63% 0.00 0.4% rec.ham-radio.swap
2487 13000 155 16% 50 92.7 0% 0.00 0.3% alt.radio.digital
2778 5900 72 19% 61 212.1 65% 0.01 0.1% aus.radio
Several positive trends continue this month. Readership is up
dramatically in all active newsgroups (closely following Usenet's
predicted exponential growth patterns). Previously tied,
rec.radio.amateur.misc has surged ahead of rec.radio.shortwave, which is
running second this month. Other newsgroups with extremely strong
showings are rec.radio.swap and rec.radio.amateur.policy (meeting their
respective goals of keeping for-sale messages and extended legal
debate out of the main discussion newsgroup). Currently,
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew leads the other new rec.radio.amateur
newsgroups by a slight margin, although all are roughly at the same
order of magnitude. The recently-created rec.radio.scanner is slowly
gaining in readership as well, its propagation almost tied with
alt.radio.scanner, which it supersedes. Recently, Chris Yoder
(chris@tali.hsc.colorado.edu) sent out an rmgroup for
alt.radio.scanner. Unfortunately, a user at another site (infamous
for doing these things) took Chris's rmgroup message, converted it to a
newgroup message, and sent it back out. Because of this,
alt.radio.scanner will not be deleted at sites that obey control
messages automatically. Be advised that the newgroup message is a
forgery and only the rmgroup message should be carried out.
It is expected that the newly-created newsgroups will continue to grow
in readership like previously-created newsgroups such as rec.radio.info
and settle out at about 60-70% propagation. If these new radio-related
newsgroups still haven't reached your site, please ask your news
administrator to create them (refer him/her to the new newsgroup
announcements by Dave Lawrence in news.announce.newgroups or the
messages posted to the new newsgroups piling up in "junk" :-).
Especially point out to him/her that cost/per-reader/per-month is
significantly down in all newsgroups.
The defunct newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.packet has been rmgrouped as of
September 21st, 1993, and is no longer connected to the PACKET-RADIO
mailing list. Netters interested in packet-radio discussion should use
rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc and the HAM-DIGITAL mailing list.
Propagation and readership continues to drop in the old newsgroup, which
is currently in last place among all the rec.radio newsgroups. If this
newsgroup still appears at your site, ask your news administrator to
rmgroup it.
Note also that the defunct rec.ham-radio hierarchy reappears this month.
If the newsgroups are still active at your site, please try to persuade your
your news administrators to delete them as these groups have been rendered
obsolete (for over 3 years now) by the rec.radio.amateur hierarchy.
--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
pschleck@unomaha.edu
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Date: 14 Feb 94 00:31:17 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: verifying subscription address
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Is "ucsd.edu" the host site for those lists that were previously on the
simtel20 site? Could you possibly verify the following addresses. I'd
rather not subscribe and then have to unsubscribe. oh, by the way, it's
for n update to the book Net Guide.
rec.radio.amateur.misc info-hams-request@ucsd.edu
rec.radio.amateur.packet packet-radio-request@ucsd.edu
rec.radio.amateur.policy ham-policy-request@ucsd.edu
rec.radio.info radio-info-request@ucsd.edu
rec.radio.shortwave swl-l-request@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu
Thanks in advance. Of course, if you can only verify your list that too
would be most appreciated.
--Kelly
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:03:31 GMT
From: foxhound.dsto.gov.au!fang.dsto.gov.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!news.adelaide.edu.au!basser.cs.su.oz.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!dmsperth.per.dms.@@munnari.oz.au
Subject: Vertical Antennas
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
: In article <CKxpL6.LKB@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
: >Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
: >: In article <CKvGDJ.GFv@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
: >: >Consider a vertical dipole in free space. You could insert a horizontal
: >: >infinite ground plane at the feedpoint without changing the radiation
: >: >pattern. Now you have two verticals, one pointing up, one pointing down.
: >: >Each vertical radiates half the power of the original dipole.
: >
: >: True because each has half the current that flows in the entire dipole.
: >
: >No, the current is the same, but the power is halved. There are (at least)
: >two ways to see this: 1) Only 1/2 the voltage is applied to each 1/4-wave
: >element. Since power = voltage times current, the power is 1/2.
: >2) The element is only 1/2 as long. So the same current results in
: >only 1/2 as much power radiated.
: Dipole split by infinite ground plane.
: |
: |
: -------/\/\/\/\---o | o---/\/\/\/\-------
: E1 | E2
: |
: |
^^^ 36.5 ohms ^^^ 36.5 ohms
------------ 73 ohms ------------
: If we apply drive to E1-E2, equal currents are driven into each element's
: impedance. So the halves of the dipole have equal currents flowing in them,
: but 180 degrees out of phase. With the infinite ground plane isolating the
: halves, one half has half the total current flow.
Let's call the voltage applied between E1 and E2 "V". Since there are
equal and opposite voltages on the two terminals, the voltage applied
to each is V/2.
If, for example, V = 73 volts, the current in the dipole is 1 A (since
the radiation resistance is 73 ohms.) With the ground plane, the
impedance of each 1/4-wave element is 73/2 = 36.5 ohms. Since you have
half the voltage (37.5 V) applied to each half, the current is still 1A
in each 1/4-wave element.
The resulting field is the same for the ground-plane case as for the
dipole in free space. It is as if the other half of the dipole were
still present. That's where the concept of the "image" antenna
extending below the ground plane comes from.
AL N1AL
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Date: 14 Feb 1994 04:30:15 GMT
From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1994Feb11.003343.2956@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <bote.760946660@access1>, <1994Feb12.160701.4407@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Re: Medium range point-to-point digital links
gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>I seem to recall that its an 8 bit system so
>the SNR is going to be around 27 db. It should be noted that hams
>consider the 20 db quieting level "full quieting" and thus perfectly
>acceptable audio quality.
Not around here. 20db quieting is the minimum acceptable for links that
I and my friends engineer; we prefer to get 'FULL' quieting out of a
radio, which I have often measured at 30-40db or better. That means that
an 8-bit system is barely enough, and I would prefer to see 10 to 12
bits were I designing such a system from scratch.
Making multi-hop analog links sound good is difficult. Digital would be
the answer if the bandwidth were available.
- Brian
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:40:01 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CKxq14.LvA@20, February, 1994srgenprp.sr.hp.com>v.au
Subject : Re: Golf Causes Cancer!
In article <CKxq14.LvA@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>Sounds exactly like the famous Milham study of amateur radio operators
>which implied that exposure to RF radiation causes cancer. I wonder
>what the cause is for the golf course managers: too much fresh air?
>
Probably exposure to chemical spraying of the course, and sun exposure.
As far as RF radiation causing cancer, try to get some cancer figures
from the Coast Guard concerning the high cancer rate among the omega
and LORAN navigation station operators. It's enough to make a QRP operator
out of you!
===========================================================================
Jeffrey NH6IL jherman@hawaii.edu, who, in his spare time, cannibalizes
old TV sets to make QRP transmitters (CW, of course).
Previously: WA6QIJ, WH6AEQ, NMO (U.S. Coast Guard Radio Honolulu: 500 kc CW)
Vietnamese Proverb: If you study you will become what you wish
If you do not study you will never become anything.
===========================================================================
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Date: 13 Feb 1994 23:57:54 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <gregCKywqn.2D0@netcom.com>, <1994Feb11.164431.7979@arrl.org>, <CL5DAq.2yI@news.Hawaii.Edu>(
Subject : Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER (now long)
Commenting on Greg Bullough's tirade, Jeff Herman wrote:
>Can you imagine what your subscription/membership fees would be if QST
>didn't acccept advertising dollars?
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
The biggest revenue items in millions of US dollars: (the rest are peanuts)
Membership (incl accruals from life) 4.0
Pub Sales 3.7
Ad revenue 3.1
So ad sales represent 28.7% of revenue. So if we got the same
level of service, ignoring the savings from a slimmer QST, the
membership dues would have to rise to $38.60 per year. Not so bad.
However, I like the ads. So there.
>It is said that CW is the second most popular mode on HF, but scanning the
>bands I frequently count more CW QSOs than SSB QSOs.
yah!
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