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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #141
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Info-Hams Digest Sat, 12 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 141
Today's Topics:
Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script? (2 msgs)
Do NiMH Batteries Dev. Memories?
FT470
Icom IC-W21AT Mods
Looking for LOGIKEY keyer
Microwave oven shielding (2 msgs)
Nude amateur radio clubs (2 msgs)
Peter Island activity info
Vertical Antennas
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:24:50 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@ames.arpa
Subject: Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Mike Gauland (gaulandm@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM) wrote:
: A mailing I read is involved in a comparision of the speeds of
: printing and cursive writing. I decided to consult some experts.
: So, all you high-speed CW ops, which do _you_ use?
Try it! Take some text (newspaper or whatever) and see how fast you
can copy it down both ways. Personally I find that over about 25 wpm
I have to switch over to cursive writing.
AL N1AL
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:13:30 GMT
From: hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!dickrb@hplabs.hp.com
Subject: Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Greetings -
If you want to answer this yourself try printing upper-case 'E' and then
print lower-case 'e' - big difference time wise !! Now you know that
printing in 'caps' is not the way to do it.
Next limit yourself to printing lower-case characters and print lower-case
'e' many times - see how many you print in 15 seconds. Repeat this using
cursive and you have the answer. Every time you have to lift the pen
from the paper it slows you down....
I could not print fast enough to pass the code test at 20wpm using
upper-case printing (I use upper-case block printing because my cursive
writing is so bad that most people have a hard time reading it) so I
converted to cursive when copying >20wpm.
Once you are comfortable copying hi speed CW you will just 'read' it in
your head and only list things on paper like the persons name and
address.
Good luck
de w7wkr
sk
Mike Gauland (gaulandm@teig7.PEN.TEK.COM) wrote:
: A mailing I read is involved in a comparision of the speeds of
: printing and cursive writing. I decided to consult some experts.
: So, all you high-speed CW ops, which do _you_ use?
: 73,
: mag
: --
: Michael A. Gauland gaulandm@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM
: AA7JF (503) 627-5067
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Date: 11 Feb 94 14:08:19 EDT
From: hayes!bcoleman@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Do NiMH Batteries Dev. Memories?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Feb8.203847.1@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, f_riskph@ccsvax.sfasu.edu (DR. PAUL H. RISK, COLLEGE OF FORESTRY) writes:
> Do NiMH batteries develop a *memory* like NiCads do if they are recharged too
> often before they're fully discharged?
NiCd batteries don't do this. Charge memory isn't caused by recharging too
soon. It is caused by repeatedly discharging to the same depth and then
recharging.
Even so, the construction of modern NiCds is such that it is extremely difficult
to produce the memory effect. 20 years ago, it was much easier.
The only instances of NiCd memory I'm aware of involved Police HTs which were
used for a fixed period (1-3 hours), then tossed back into the charger at
the station. Since the period was repeated over and over again, the batteries
eventually got "used" to that charge level. After about 100 such cycles,
if you tried to use them longer, the voltage dropped off rather quickly.
A good example of why NiCd memory is a myth. I have an electric razor that
I've used for 12 years. That's thousands of charge cycles to the same
depth. Yet the razor still works fine. The NiCds have outlasted the wiring
to the razor motor (which I've repaired about 15 or so times).
The best thing you can do about NiCd memory is to forget it.
Two rules for long NiCd life: don't overheat them by overcharging; don't
discharge them too deeply, or you may get cell reversal in the pack.
--
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Date: 12 Feb 1994 13:36:03 -0600
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!bradley.bradley.edu!camelot.bradley.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FT470
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Can anyone e-mail the mods for the Ft-470 to increase the transmit and recieve rranges? I know to increase the transmit it is the removal of a jumper and to increase the recieve it is only a series of button pushes.
Any help is appreciated
thanks
Geoff
KB9DUX
crakrz@camelot.bradley.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:13:00 GMT
From: agate!iat.holonet.net!kbsbbs!clinton.peebles@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Icom IC-W21AT Mods
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone know what the mods are for the Icom IC-W21AT Handheld?
Thanks. Clinton VE7KNL
Clinton.Peebles@kbsbbs.com
* QMPro 1.52 * I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous..
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Date: 11 Feb 94 15:56:26
From: agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@ames.arpa
Subject: Looking for LOGIKEY keyer
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>Is this an Iambic keyer or a regular keyer. I haven't used an iambic
>keyer (saw one once) but it seems like it'll take relearning.
It is an iambic keyer. Fairly full featured.
>Is it worth it?
I don't know since I have never used any others. I was attracted to
this keyer because it is available in kit form. I didn't want to
simply buy it.
The article describing the keyer is in QST and in recent issues
of the ARRL handbook. It describes an earlier version of the
software. The new version adds emulation of Accukeyer and Curtis "A"
etc. Memory dot and dash is now configurable. There are several
other enhancements as well.
The online manual is available for free from Idiom Press with
a formatted diskette and mailer. I know. I got it when I
bought the kit and converted it to Latex.
--
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Date: 9 Feb 1994 19:26:41 GMT
From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!chuck@network.ucsd.
Subject: Microwave oven shielding
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <horak.760812890@convex.com> horak@convex.com (David Horak) writes:
>I have a question to ask. While playing with my new Tropez 90 MHz phone
>the other day, I tried putting it into both of my microwaves (no I didn't
>nuke the phone :') and I guess I expected the shielding to cut off the
>signal, thereby causing the out of range indicator to beep. The phone
>was still able to communicate with the base. If the microwave cannot
>attenuate 900 MHz, is it really attenuating the GHz stuff? Would
>someone care to comment on the type shielding used in these ovens?
The biggest source of leakage in a microwave oven is the door seal. Modern
microwaves use what is called a "choke" seal. It is a tuned, narrow width,
groove formed into the outer edge of the door. The choke seal used is only
effective at frequencies greater than 2 GHz. There is also an upper freq
limit.
Microwaves leak bunches of RF inspite of these seals. Tune a receiver
to around 2450, and you will hear some of the trashiest RF.
------
Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 03:24:34 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV!B10990@ames.arpa
Subject: Microwave oven shielding
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2jbddh$7ja@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>
>In article <horak.760812890@convex.com> horak@convex.com (David Horak) writes:
>>I have a question to ask. While playing with my new Tropez 90 MHz phone
>>the other day, I tried putting it into both of my microwaves (no I didn't
>>nuke the phone :') and I guess I expected the shielding to cut off the
>>signal, thereby causing the out of range indicator to beep. The phone
>>was still able to communicate with the base. If the microwave cannot
>>attenuate 900 MHz, is it really attenuating the GHz stuff? Would
>>someone care to comment on the type shielding used in these ovens?
>
>The biggest source of leakage in a microwave oven is the door seal. Modern
>microwaves use what is called a "choke" seal. It is a tuned, narrow width,
>groove formed into the outer edge of the door. The choke seal used is only
>effective at frequencies greater than 2 GHz. There is also an upper freq
>limit.
>
>Microwaves leak bunches of RF inspite of these seals. Tune a receiver
>to around 2450, and you will hear some of the trashiest RF.
>
>
>------
>Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
>chuck@eng.umd.edu
-----------------------------------------------------
I haven't tried this, but remember that a receiver is orders of
magnitude more sensitive than the permitted leakage of an oven.
The oven can leak up to 5 mW/cm^2 at 5 cm, while a good receiver
can detect femtowatts.
--Gary K9CZB
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 17:12:18 GMT
From: dtint!allenw1.dtint.com!allen@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Nude amateur radio clubs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <gdavis.760825204@griffin> Gary Davis, gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu
writes:
> I heard a strange story on the CBC last evening. The report was on
>the increasing interest in nudism in the Winter months. To promote
>this festive and relaxing activity additional interests where specified.
>
>There is, according to the CBC, a nudist amateur radio club.
>
>I am wondering where, how many members? Anybody know anything about this?
There might be, but I bet that they are all OMs and no YLs or XYLs!
--
---
Tom Kimpton(System Administrator) {root,tom}@dtint.dtint.com
Digital Technology Int. (801)226-2984
500 W. 1200 South, Orem UT, 84057 FAX (801) 226-8438
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Date: 11 Feb 1994 17:51:36 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!world!hopscotch.ksr.com!jfw@ames.arpa
Subject: Nude amateur radio clubs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
jimc@megatek.com (Jim Campbell) writes:
> BTW, hams in the nudist/naturist "community" have noticed a far higher
>per capita ham population among nudists/naturists than in the general
>population. Wonder why that is?
Why, it's obvious. The same CC&Rs that ban antennas also ban nudity.
:-)
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Date: 11 Feb 1994 17:12:58 -0500
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!garnet.msen.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
Subject: Peter Island activity info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The following information on the Peter Island DXpedition's recent
activity is furnished by the Great Lakes Packet Cluster and
Bob Berquist (NC8I).
The format should be self-exaplanitory...
DX de KJ6NZ: 21295.0 3Y0PI QSX 21319.81 0205Z 02/03/9402:12:20
DX de K3HSK: 14195.0 3Y0PI working 2's 5x9 in PA 0219Z 02/03/9402:13:46
DX de W9YSX: 10105.0 3Y0PI 0211Z 02/03/9402:21:02
DX de NI3B: 14195.0 3Y0PI now on 2s... 0216Z 02/03/9402:21:31
DX de K8IP: 14025.0 3Y0PI WRKD 14035.0 0220Z 02/03/9402:23:13
DX de WB6YPX: 10104.0 3Y0PI UP 2 0220Z 02/03/9402:23:51
DX de K5FNQ: 21295.0 3Y0PI working 0's and 9's now 0219Z 02/03/9402:26:56
DX de KB8MUV: 14195.0 3Y0PI ON 3'S 0236Z 02/03/9402:34:18
DX de N8GNA: 21290.0 3Y0PI 0239Z 02/03/9402:36:19
DX de KR8V: 14024.0 3Y0PI WRKD 14039.5 0242Z 02/03/9402:37:55
DX de N8OAR: 14195.0 3Y0PI wrking 4's now 0248Z 02/03/9402:44:51
DX de K8LJG: 10102.9 3Y0PI Qsx up 5 khz 0259Z 02/03/9402:54:57
DX de K8JP: 14023.5 3Y0PI QSX 14034.30 0301Z 02/03/9403:02:18
DX de W3OO: 10103.0 3Y0PI worked 10110 0316Z 02/03/9403:12:09
DX de WB9SAU: 14195.0 3Y0PI 200-220 ON 8'S THEN 9'S! 0322Z 02/03/9403:19:26
DX de KB8LM: 14195.0 3Y0PI 0330Z 02/03/9403:26:15
DX de K8JP: 10102.7 3Y0PI QSX 10110.20 8'S 0332Z 02/03/9403:32:18
DX de WB9CIF: 14195.0 3Y0PI WRKED 14219.6 0341Z 02/03/9403:41:10
DX de K3TLP: 10102.7 3Y0PI 0 's now 0346Z 02/03/9403:52:10
DX de K3TLP: 10102.7 3Y0PI 6 's now 0401Z 02/03/9404:06:01
DX de K8IP: 10103.0 3Y0PI FREE FOR ALL WRKD 113 0412Z 02/03/9404:13:32
DX de K8JJC: 14023.8 3Y0PI "UP" 0458Z 02/03/9404:54:30
DX de K8JJC: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 200/210. STILL S9 HR. 0505Z 02/03/9405:01:41
DX de KW0L: 14195.0 3Y0PI up 200-210 0602Z 02/03/9406:01:32
DX de KA9LTR: 10102.9 3Y0PI up 5 kHz. 0727Z 02/03/9407:22:59
DX de KE9ET: 14195.0 3Y0PI "STILL GOING" 0906Z 02/03/9409:05:29
DX de KJ8G: 14195.0 3Y0PI ON 8'S 1020Z 02/03/9410:16:36
DX de NN9G: 14025.0 3Y0PI wrk 037 0215Z 02/04/9402:12:59
DX de KC8PG: 7007.0 3Y0PI EU-ONLY 0222Z 02/04/9402:17:53
DX de KU8U: 14025.0 3Y0PI UP 14040.9 EZ 0232Z 02/04/9402:28:26
DX de WV1R: 145890.0 3Y0PI AO-13 Mode B 0234Z 02/04/9402:31:35
DX de AF8N: 14196.1 3Y0PI Now on 8s 0240Z 02/04/9402:34:35
DX de WB9QPG: 145890.1 V98AWU NOT 3Y0PI 0246Z 02/04/9402:47:43
DX de WA8OSE: 10109.1 3Y0PI QSX 10122.00 0322Z 02/04/9403:25:58
DX de N9AR: 14196.0 3Y0PI got him at 14203.4 0323Z 02/04/9403:30:01
DX de W8ILC: 14024.7 3Y0PI WKD AT 050 2ND CALL 0327Z 02/04/9403:33:59
DX de KF8RW: 14025.0 3Y0PI wrkd 14.03950 0341Z 02/04/9403:39:48
DX de NW3C: 7007.0 3Y0PI loud but wrking eu only 0356Z 02/04/9403:56:27
DX de W8IQ: 7005.5 Z21HS FOR THOSE BORED WITH 3Y0PI 0419Z 02/04/9404:15:15
DX de AA8BE: 10108.0 3Y0PI 0459Z 02/04/9404:53:49
DX de AA8BE: 10109.0 3Y0PI QRX 10.123 0459Z 02/04/9404:54:35
DX de K8JP: 7022.0 3Y0PI MOVING HR 0456Z 02/04/9405:06:59
DX de KB8BS: 10109.2 3Y0PI WRKD AT .116.95 0509Z 02/04/9405:07:55
DX de W9KIA: 7024.2 3Y0PI QSX 7028.70 0536Z 02/04/9405:34:58
DX de W9SZ: 7024.0 3Y0PI N W3'S NOW 0613Z 02/04/9406:11:22
DX de KJ8G: 14195.0 3Y0PI 0750Z 02/04/9407:45:05
DX de KJ8G: 7038.0 3Y0PI RX 5155 ON 8'SS 0949Z 02/04/9409:44:19
DX de KC8PG: 7038.0 3Y0PI QSX 7155, TNX RICK FIRST SPOT 0959Z 02/04/9409:55:27
DX de KB9CRY: 7038.0 3Y0PI qsx 7175, by #s 1021Z 02/04/9410:16:25
DX de WB8VPA: 7038.0 3Y0PI qsx 7175 1019Z 02/04/9410:32:45
DX de K3GGN: 7038.1 3Y0PI midwest now qsx 7.175 1103Z 02/04/9410:59:03
DX de WO9Z: 21294.0 3Y0PI QSX 21313 0051Z 02/05/9400:48:17
DX de W9GCW: 14195.0 3Y0PI 0100Z 02/05/9400:58:17
DX de W8IQ: 14195.2 3Y0PI ON 3'S NORM 4'S THEN 8'S 0133Z 02/05/9401:29:50
DX de W8AH: 14195.0 3Y0PI on 4s 0144Z 02/05/9401:42:19
DX de KB8LM: 14195.0 3Y0PI 0204Z 02/05/9401:58:57
DX de KB8LM: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 14219.60 0222Z 02/05/9402:17:11
DX de K8JJC: 7024.1 3Y0PI WRKD UP 5.9 0228Z 02/05/9402:22:31
DX de NO9Z: 7024.0 3Y0PI up 0228Z 02/05/9402:29:41
DX de NE8J: 14195.0 3Y0PI WRK'D AT 14210.9 0235Z 02/05/9402:32:42
DX de WD8LLD: 7024.3 3Y0PI wkd 7031.1 0230Z 02/05/9402:33:47
DX de KA6A: 7024.0 3Y0PI back agn 0238Z 02/05/9402:39:01
DX de KS9Y: 14195.0 3Y0PI qsx 14202.1 0246Z 02/05/9402:41:50
DX de N9CMB: 14196.0 3Y0PI QSX 14.205.0 0246Z 02/05/9402:45:16
DX de WA8OSE: 7036.4 3Y0PI QSX 7036.00 0306Z 02/05/9403:03:27
DX de WA8OSE: 7024.1 3Y0PI QSX 7036.00 sri 0307Z 02/05/9403:08:10
DX de WB9IIQ: 3507.0 3Y0PI 0330Z 02/05/9403:28:13
DX de N9US: 145887.0 3Y0PI AO-13 - QSX 435.501.0 0402Z 02/05/9404:00:08
DX de N9BMS: 3507.0 3Y0PI 0403Z 02/05/9404:02:06
DX de W9ZRX: 7024.1 3Y0PI QSX 7040.60 0523Z 02/05/9405:34:52
DX de AA9AA: 7024.1 3Y0PI up, strong!! 0539Z 02/05/9405:35:38
DX de K8JP: 7023.8 3Y0PI QSX 7040.70 0551Z 02/05/9405:49:40
DX de K8JJC: 3507.1 3Y0PI NOW ON E.U. 0635Z 02/05/9406:29:32
DX de KA9ZAP: 7024.0 3Y0PI WORKED AT 7043.8 0644Z 02/05/9406:40:59
DX de WG8M: 7022.2 3Y0PI UP 5 0804Z 02/05/9408:00:05
DX de WA9IVU: 14195.0 3Y0PI QRZ EUROPE 200 UP 1116Z 02/05/9411:12:14
DX de WA8RXI: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 210 All 1119Z 02/05/9411:14:27
DX de KB8O: 7007.2 3Y0PI QSX UP 1125Z 02/05/9411:23:31
DX de K8UNV: 14195.0 3Y0PI WKD 202.5 1132Z 02/05/9411:28:27
DX de WT8R: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 14220.0 1154Z 02/05/9411:56:33
DX de AA9JY: 14195.0 3Y0PI listening right on 14.220 1204Z 02/05/9411:59:43
DX de N4VGI: 14195.0 3Y0PI WRK 14217 1227Z 02/05/9412:28:21
DX de WD8O: 14194.8 3Y0PI worked at .2199 1247Z 02/05/9412:42:24
DX de KE9ET: 21295.0 3Y0PI 1311Z 02/05/9413:08:24
DX de K3OTY: 18141.0 3Y0PI his freq 1350Z 02/05/9413:54:05
DX de W9UI: 18141.9 3Y0PI qsx 148 1407Z 02/05/9414:02:09
DX de W9UI: 21294.9 3Y0PI working EU 1409Z 02/05/9414:05:42
DX de WK3N: 18141.6 3Y0PI qsx 148 1405Z 02/05/9414:10:06
DX de KB8EU: 28475.0 3Y0PI 480-490 1523Z 02/05/9415:19:32
DX de KB8EU: 28487.8 3Y0PI worked 487.8 1539Z 02/05/9415:35:09
DX de NE8Z: 21295.0 3Y0PI 1602Z 02/05/9415:57:34
DX de WA0FLS: 28475.0 3Y0PI wrked 489.2 1558Z 02/05/9415:59:24
DX de NI8K: 28474.7 3Y0PI QSX 28492.12 Peter 1601Z 02/05/9415:59:42
DX de KR8V: 28474.8 3Y0PI QSX 28479.99 1611Z 02/05/9416:06:46
DX de NI8K: 21295.0 3Y0PI QRT untill 1600 1621Z 02/05/9416:19:33
DX de W9EDA: 21295.0 3Y0PI 300-310 1702Z 02/05/9416:59:01
DX de WA0FLS: 28475.0 3Y0PI still there-no numbers 1702Z 02/05/9417:02:45
DX de KJ8G: 28024.0 3Y0PI QSX .030-.035 1819Z 02/05/9418:13:35
DX de K8LJG: 18074.0 3Y0PI 1837Z 02/05/9418:32:43
DX de K8LJG: 28023.2 3Y0PI Moved Freq 2011Z 02/05/9420:07:16
DX de W8SEY: 28023.2 3Y0PI WKD ON 28031.7 2033Z 02/05/9420:27:24
DX de K8LJG: 28024.0 3Y0PI QSY back up 2032Z 02/05/9420:28:15
DX de W8SEY: 18073.9 3Y0PI WKD 18088.3 2144Z 02/05/9421:38:27
DX de WB8RNY: 14195.0 3Y0PI 2144Z 02/05/9421:39:58
DX de AA8HV: 18073.0 3Y0PI wkd 18.087.0 2209Z 02/05/9422:05:08
DX de AA8HV: 14195.0 3Y0PI by numbers now 5's 2214Z 02/05/9422:09:47
DX de NE8Z: 18073.7 3Y0PI 18.085.0 2219Z 02/05/9422:14:39
DX de WB8RJX: 21295.0 3Y0PI 2238Z 02/05/9422:33:48
DX de N8CLJ: 28024.0 3Y0PI 30-35 2250Z 02/05/9422:45:27
DX de K1CMI: 28475.0 3Y0PI 2255Z 02/05/9422:51:49
DX de WD8NSD: 21295.0 3Y0PI 300-310 HE SED 40/80/160 SSB T 2302Z 02/05/9422:59:22
DX de WY2E: 14195.0 3Y0PI wkd 202 2301Z 02/05/9422:59:23
DX de AA3BK: 18086.4 3Y0PI WRKED THIS FREQ 2258Z 02/05/9423:04:45
DX de VE1EOS: 18073.6 3Y0PI list up 2315Z 02/05/9423:13:46
DX de AB0X: 28024.0 3Y0PI WRKD ON 28034 IN 1 CALL, HONES 2316Z 02/05/9423:16:36
DX de WB6VGI: 21295.0 3Y0PI wkh 306.5 2312Z 02/05/9423:27:41
DX de 3Y0PI: 14195.0 WRKED AT 14209.6 2335Z 02/05/9423:30:52
DX de NE8Z: 14195.0 3Y0PI TEMP -5C & HEAVY SNOW STORM 2345Z 02/05/9423:41:03
DX de W8KZM: 14195.0 3Y0PI 8'S NEXT AFTER BRIEF QRX FE 0000Z 02/05/9423:57:07
DX de W8KZM: 14195.0 3Y0PI ON 8'S NOW 0020Z 02/06/9400:17:58
DX de N8AC: 14195.1 3Y0PI -AMAZING HE CALLED FOR 8`S NO 0045Z 02/06/9400:51:20
DX de N9CNS: 145888.8 3Y0PI AO-13 up 5 to 10 0123Z 02/06/9401:21:46
DX de WD8NSD: 7000.0 3Y0PI 80MPH WINDS LOST 40M ANT 0741Z 02/06/9407:34:14
DX de W8TA: 3785.0 3Y0PI 1036Z 02/06/9410:32:46
DX de K9RHY: 28475.1 3Y0PI TALKING NW zPC30 1651Z 02/06/9417:18:35
DX de W9HUW: 28475.0 3Y0PI LISTENING 480 UP 1735Z 02/06/9417:38:08
DX de KG9N: 28475.0 3Y0PI 1727Z 02/06/9417:41:15
DX de KB8LM: 28475.0 3Y0PI 56 HERE 1752Z 02/06/9417:48:49
DX de K8NA-9: 28475.0 3Y0PI WORKING 8's NOW 1837Z 02/05/9418:39:19
DX de KB8S-8: 21024.0 3Y0PI UP 5 1857Z 02/05/9418:58:57
DX de WG8M: 28021.6 3Y0PI QSX UP 1922Z 02/05/9419:23:03
DX de WS1A: 28475.0 3Y0PI On 0s 1927Z 02/05/9419:27:04
DX de N4YIC: 24940.0 3Y0PI Seems to be working everyone 1924Z 02/05/9420:01:49
DX de K2SB: 28021.5 3Y0PI wrkd 28.030.4 1925Z 02/05/9420:02:21
DX de AB5GU: 28475.0 3Y0PI ON 5'S LOUD 2008Z 02/05/9420:10:35
DX de W4ZYT: 24940.1 3Y0PI Worked 24.955.1 1934Z 02/05/9420:19:57
DX de KA2YPT: 28021.6 3Y0PI strong 5/9 up 5-15 wrked 026 2030Z 02/05/9420:31:33
DX de K5XI: 24894.0 3Y0PI QSX 24900.00 2034Z 02/05/9420:38:11
DX de KA1ERL: 14195.0 3Y0PI 200-220if u still need it 2045Z 02/05/9420:46:00
DX de KK2I: 18074.0 3Y0PI UP 2045Z 02/05/9420:48:19
DX de K3NW: 28031.3 3Y0PI 28029.8 2018Z 02/05/9421:01:27
DX de KS9Z: 28021.5 3Y0PI QSX 28031.67 2105Z 02/05/9421:04:28
DX de VE3ZTH: 14024.0 3Y0PI 2110Z 02/05/9421:11:46
DX de WB8K: 28475.0 3Y0PI on 8's wrkd 488 2119Z 02/05/9421:20:50
DX de N3AKD: 28021.0 3Y0PI wkd 28.036.9 2024Z 02/05/9421:20:51
DX de KS9Z: 21024.0 3Y0PI QSX 21032.36 2115Z 02/05/9421:21:41
DX de W4ZYT: 24894.4 3Y0PI Wkd 24898.9 2032Z 02/05/9421:23:08
DX de WB8OGM: 28021.6 3Y0PI worked at 28031.11 2125Z 02/05/9421:26:11
DX de K2GPL: 21024.0 3Y0PI qsx 21033.1 2122Z 02/05/9421:28:23
DX de VE3ZTH: 14195.0 3Y0PI 210-220 2130Z 02/05/9421:31:54
DX de K3NL: 28475.0 3Y0PI wking 6's 2050Z 02/05/9421:39:28
DX de AA2GQ: 28475.0 3Y0PI qsx 490 2103Z 02/05/9421:44:52
DX de WQ3X: 28021.5 3Y0PI QSX 042 2105Z 02/05/9421:44:52
DX de KB8O: 21024.0 3Y0PI QSX 21038.6 OOPS 2142Z 02/05/9421:48:09
DX de N8BIB: 14195.0 3Y0PI 200-220 2215Z 02/05/9422:17:17
DX de KA9LTR: 21023.8 3Y0PI up 2230Z 02/05/9422:32:45
DX de KG8AA: 14195.0 3Y0PI SPLIT, 200-220, WITH EUROPEANS 2303Z 02/05/9423:05:39
DX de W3ZDF: 14195.0 3Y0PI Wrkin Europe 2343Z 02/05/9423:46:12
DX de KB2HZ: 28021.0 3Y0PI 2251Z 02/05/9423:48:30
DX de KB2HZ: 28021.8 3Y0PI moved 2252Z 02/05/9423:50:16
DX de WY8N: 28474.4 3Y0PI ON .485 2254Z 02/05/9423:55:05
DX de K3SA: 28021.0 3Y0PI 28.029.5 2304Z 02/06/9400:00:01
DX de AC6V: 14194.9 3Y0PI WRKING EUROPE 2359Z 02/06/9400:02:45
DX de N8SFD: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 200-210 0002Z 02/06/9400:06:17
DX de WY8N: 28021.7 3Y0PI XMT .029.5 2309Z 02/06/9400:07:11
DX de AF8C: 14195.0 3Y0PI qsyed to somewhere 0013Z 02/06/9400:14:04
DX de NE8Z: 14342.0 3Y0PI PASSING TRAFFIC TO VP8 0019Z 02/06/9400:21:27
DX de NE8Z: 21076.0 3Y0PI PACKTOR/STNS CONNECTED NOW 0031Z 02/06/9400:33:10
DX de AB9E: 14024.0 3Y0PI UP & CALLING FOR EU 0041Z 02/06/9400:43:19
DX de WB8RJX: 21076.0 3Y0PI FEC 0111Z 02/06/9401:13:11
DX de NE8Z: 10113.5 3Y0PI BOB/N4GCK 0111Z 02/06/9401:13:18
DX de WV1R: 10101.4 3Y0PI .118 up - on 3's 0155Z 02/06/9401:58:06
DX de AG8L: 14024.1 3Y0PI wkd 033.0 0227Z 02/06/9402:30:30
DX de K9ADJ: 14024.0 3Y0PI SRI TYPO 0303Z 02/06/9403:21:36
DX de WB9CIF: 10101.3 3Y0PI WRKD 10117.7 0314Z 02/06/9403:25:34
DX de N9XX: 14024.0 3Y0PI 42.8 0324Z 02/06/9403:30:19
DX de WV1R: 3785.0 3Y0PI QSX 3800.00 0338Z 02/06/9403:40:36
DX de WT8C: 14023.8 3Y0PI QSX 14034.80 0351Z 02/06/9403:54:17
DX de WA9AKT: 10101.3 3Y0PI 10117.7 again! 0353Z 02/06/9403:56:27
DX de K8RC: 14023.9 3Y0PI QSX 35.8 0357Z 02/06/9404:03:53
DX de NZ9Z: 10101.3 3Y0PI 10117.7 AGAIN!!! 0403Z 02/06/9404:09:54
DX de N9JCL-6: 14024.0 3Y0PI WORKED .0365 0409Z 02/06/9404:13:58
DX de KU0A: 14194.8 3Y0PI LISTNING 14200 0425Z 02/06/9404:28:25
DX de W8KZM: 10101.6 3Y0PI WRKED 10118.0 0433Z 02/06/9404:35:46
DX de WB9Z: 3785.0 3Y0PI QSX 3800 up 0434Z 02/06/9404:37:35
DX de N9JCL-6: 14024.0 3Y0PI WORKED .0365 0409Z 02/06/9404:42:36
DX de KU0A: 14194.8 3Y0PI LISTNING 14200 0425Z 02/06/9404:42:38
DX de W8KZM: 10101.6 3Y0PI WRKED 10118.0 0433Z 02/06/9404:42:49
DX de WB9Z: 3785.0 3Y0PI QSX 3800 up 0434Z 02/06/9404:42:50
DX de W9TA: 14194.9 3Y0PI WORKED @ 14200.1 0441Z 02/06/9404:46:06
DX de W8KZM: 3785.0 3Y0PI 3800-05 ON 2'S 0451Z 02/06/9404:54:24
DX de WD8NSD: 3785.0 3Y0PI #1'S ON 3805 0446Z 02/06/9404:54:40
DX de WD8NSD: 3785.0 3Y0PI 3800-3805 ON #2'S 0453Z 02/06/9405:04:13
DX de AA8HZ: 14024.0 3Y0PI 14035.05 LITE PILEUP 0515Z 02/06/9405:17:27
DX de WU8A: 14024.0 3Y0PI QSX 14038.1 #300 !!!!!!! 0533Z 02/06/9405:33:11
DX de K8JJC: 10101.6 3Y0PI 0531Z 02/06/9405:34:33
DX de NI8K: 14200.0 3Y0PI QSX 14.20 Open,GUD SI 0533Z 02/06/9405:36:40
DX de NI8K: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 14200.00 Sorry, 0534Z 02/06/9405:39:41
DX de K8JJC: 10101.7 3Y0PI QRN/QRM THERE.QSX 118-125 0537Z 02/06/9405:40:36
DX de NW8F: 14024.0 3Y0PI WRKED AT .036.4 0539Z 02/06/9405:45:40
DX de KZ8E: 10101.5 3Y0PI qsx 10123.6 0602Z 02/06/9406:01:23
DX de N8CQA: 10101.5 3Y0PI qrt'd 0617Z 02/06/9406:17:42
DX de WY9E: 3800.0 3Y0PI DN...wkg EUROPE 0634Z 02/06/9406:35:36
DX de WY9E: 3800.0 3Y0PI U.S. 3780-3790 0724Z 02/06/9407:23:43
DX de KB8LM: 7060.0 3Y0PI UP 0729Z 02/06/9407:30:01
DX de K8JJC: 7060.0 3Y0PI QSX 7.160 0727Z 02/06/9407:30:29
DX de K8JP: 7053.0 3Y0PI QSX 7161.30 MOVED FM QR 0736Z 02/06/9407:41:26
DX de KB8LM: 3800.0 3Y0PI 0745Z 02/06/9407:46:42
DX de KB8LM: 3800.0 3Y0PI 3780 TO 90 0749Z 02/06/9407:50:29
DX de K9GS: 7053.0 3Y0PI QSX 7161 0804Z 02/06/9408:07:56
DX de K8JP: 3799.9 3Y0PI QSX 3787.41 0802Z 02/06/9408:08:08
DX de WD8MQY: 7053.0 3Y0PI 0827Z 02/06/9408:33:48
DX de KB8LM: 3800.0 3Y0PI QSX 3780.00 0853Z 02/06/9408:54:51
DX de W9ZRX: 3799.9 3Y0PI QSX 3781.00 wkd 0902Z 02/06/9409:06:59
DX de W9ZRX: 14195.0 3Y0PI Begging 0933Z 02/06/9409:37:39
DX de K8JP: 14194.7 3Y0PI QSX 14210.00 BEGGING! 0948Z 02/06/9409:53:44
DX de NI8K: 14189.9 3Y0PI Good time to Log em! 1143Z 02/06/9411:45:44
DX de K8MBH: 14189.9 3Y0PI SED 80/160 CW TMRW 1209Z 02/06/9412:08:17
DX de NI8K: 18145.0 3Y0PI Weak in SW Ohio 1245Z 02/06/9412:49:05
DX de AA8FE: 21295.0 3Y0PI QSX 300-310 1308Z 02/06/9413:09:48
DX de KD9EC: 21295.0 3Y0PI ON 3'S AT THIS TIME 1347Z 02/06/9413:56:25
DX de WA8RXI: 21195.0 3Y0PI QSX 21306.5 1437Z 02/06/9414:38:23
DX de N8CLJ: 18074.3 3Y0PI QSX UP 1517Z 02/06/9415:19:18
DX de K8JP: 18073.8 3Y0PI QSX 18075.80 1518Z 02/06/9415:42:04
DX de N8KEM: 24895.0 3Y0PI 1543Z 02/06/9415:57:51
DX de WG8M: 21024.0 3Y0PI 1755Z 02/06/9417:56:29
DX de WD8MQY: 21024.0 3Y0PI 1816Z 02/06/9418:22:20
DX de WG8M: 21024.0 3Y0PI UNDER FOC'ERS 1921Z 02/06/9419:23:19
DX de KJ8G: 21295.0 3Y0PI RX 310 CLG CQ 2151Z 02/06/9421:52:24
DX de AG8L: 18075.0 3Y0PI wkd 076.5 Cq Cq 2214Z 02/06/9422:17:46
DX de AG8L: 18075.0 3Y0PI Begging 2216Z 02/06/9422:20:02
DX de N8BIB: 14195.0 3Y0PI 2259Z 02/06/9423:00:20
DX de WB8RJX: 14195.0 3Y0PI WEAK 2308Z 02/06/9423:10:22
DX de K8JJC: 18074.1 3Y0PI WK HR. 2313Z 02/06/9423:23:07
DX de AA8BE: 18073.0 3Y0PI wrking EU 2331Z 02/06/9423:31:48
DX de WB9SAU: 1800.0 3Y0PI TEST 0036Z 02/07/9400:41:47
DX de W9YSX: 14195.0 3Y0PI back in 5 min 0208Z 02/07/9402:19:09
DX de K8BTH: 3523.0 3Y0PI BIG PILEUP 25 AND UP 0409Z 02/07/9404:10:15
DX de WS8D: 3523.0 3Y0PI working EU 0608Z 02/07/9406:09:31
DX de WG8M: 3521.5 3Y0PI UP 0736Z 02/07/9407:38:08
DX de KC8PG: 7007.0 3Y0PI QSX UP5 0959Z 02/07/9410:01:01
DX de KC8EU: 21295.0 3Y0PI WRKG EUROPE 1507Z 02/07/9415:09:18
DX de KC8EU: 28475.0 3Y0PI 1740Z 02/07/9417:42:23
DX de WB8RJX: 21295.0 3Y0PI 2031Z 02/07/9420:33:07
DX de WB8RJX: 24945.0 3Y0PI JUST STARTING 2032Z 02/07/9420:35:04
DX de WG8M: 21294.7 3Y0PI WORKING 8'S SOON 2159Z 02/07/9422:02:05
DX de N8CLJ: 21295.1 3Y0PI 300 310 8'S 2258Z 02/07/9423:01:14
DX de K8LJG: 21294.7 3Y0PI Just went to 9's 2314Z 02/07/9423:16:18
DX de K3VCZ: 14195.0 3Y0PI 14.200 14.210 2320Z 02/07/9423:22:14
DX de WA8RXI: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 200-220 E-U-R-O-P-E fer NW 2322Z 02/07/9423:24:20
DX de N8BLD: 21295.0 3Y0PI BACK AT IT AGN 2323Z 02/07/9423:26:58
DX de KI6BU: 14195.0 3Y0PI STILL NO CW 2327Z 02/07/9423:36:56
DX de W8IQ: 14080.0 3Y0PI RTTY REPORTED BY OTHERS 2336Z 02/07/9423:41:29
DX de KE9A: 21295.0 3Y0PI 5's 2345Z 02/08/9400:03:10
DX de W6OA: 21294.7 3Y0PI Back on Fives.... 0017Z 02/08/9400:20:39
DX de KA6ING: 14195.0 3Y0PI 200,210 EUROPE 0021Z 02/08/9400:26:19
DX de KD6NDX: 14195.0 3Y0PI e u r o p e only 0018Z 02/08/9400:26:30
DX de KE9A: 21025.0 3Y0PI qsx 21030 0012Z 02/08/9400:32:34
DX de VE3ZTH: 14195.0 3Y0PI wrkd 215 0142Z 02/08/9401:44:58
DX de KR8V: 10109.7 3Y0PI QSX 10116.67 0254Z 02/08/9402:56:07
DX de WD8MGQ: 3799.8 3Y0PI QSX 3.780-3.790 0325Z 02/08/9403:25:57
DX de WG8M: 3800.0 3Y0PI QSX 3795 0823Z 02/08/9408:26:00
DX de K8DYZ: 7039.9 3Y0PI qsx 7185.0 0948Z 02/08/9409:50:24
DX de WD8PLE: 24945.0 3Y0PI test 1338Z 02/08/9413:38:44
DX de VE3ZTH: 14195.0 3Y0PI 1414Z 02/08/9414:16:38
DX de K8AJK: 28475.0 3Y0PI UP 5+ 1808Z 02/08/9418:10:27
DX de VE3ZTH: 21024.0 3Y0PI 1838Z 02/08/9418:40:24
DX de VE3ZTH: 21024.0 3Y0PI WRKD 25 1852Z 02/08/9418:55:05
DX de KC8EU: 21296.9 3Y0PI WILL BE OPERATIONAL IN 10 MIN 2134Z 02/08/9421:36:48
DX de KG8BZ: 21025.0 3Y0PI UP 2150Z 02/08/9421:52:59
DX de W2HPQ: 21025.5 3Y0PI WKD 27.7 2211Z 02/08/9422:17:06
DX de WD8O: 21025.5 LU4AA Not 3Y0PI 2215Z 02/08/9422:18:08
DX de WB8ZTV: 14082.9 3Y0PI RTTY UP! 2230Z 02/08/9422:41:18
DX de N8OCN: 21295.0 3Y0PI TO HAVE OPERATOR IN TWO MINS 2237Z 02/08/9422:42:16
DX de N9ITX: 14080.1 3Y0PI RTTY up 2251Z 02/08/9422:55:58
DX de W2JGR: 14081.9 3Y0PI RTTY QSY'D HERE. QSX UP 2301Z 02/08/9423:06:21
DX de W0IZ: 14081.9 3Y0PI RTTY UP UP 2318Z 02/08/9423:24:17
DX de WD8Y: 14023.9 3Y0PI 2333Z 02/08/9423:35:20
DX de WB5M: 14024.0 3Y0PIG wkd 14.030.2 2331Z 02/08/9423:39:13
DX de N8ABW: 14084.0 3Y0PI **RTTY** UP 2348Z 02/08/9423:51:28
DX de AA4M: 14081.9 3Y0PI RTTY, listening up 2351Z 02/08/9423:59:09
DX de W9SZ: 14024.0 3Y0PI UP 2353Z 02/09/9400:03:52
DX de WA8BIJ: 14024.0 3Y0PI sri but europe nly nw 0005Z 02/09/9400:08:05
DX de WA8BIJ: 14024.0 3Y0PI nw taking ss 0007Z 02/09/9400:09:52
DX de WT8S: 14084.0 3Y0PI RTTY W WS9V CALLING REPEATEDLY 0000Z 02/09/9400:10:30
DX de WA2JQK: 14025.0 3Y0PI WRKD 14036 0020Z 02/09/9400:25:52
DX de KR8V: 3507.2 3Y0PI QSX 3511.98 0330Z 02/09/9403:33:13
DX de W9WAQ: 3507.0 3Y0PI UP 4 0351Z 02/09/9403:55:24
DX de AB8K: 14082.0 3Y0PI RTTY 0359Z 02/09/9404:10:26
DX de K8JJC: 10109.0 3Y0PI UP 5. QRZ. 0435Z 02/09/9404:36:11
DX de N9NS: 3506.9 3Y0PI QSX up 5 or so 0509Z 02/09/9405:18:25
DX de KB8LUJ: 14195.0 3Y0PI working 4's to death, of cours 0131Z 02/10/9401:34:56
DX de W9II: 7022.0 3Y0PI UP 0145Z 02/10/9401:44:28
DX de W9UI: 7022.0 3Y0PI worked 036.1 0235Z 02/10/9402:39:05
DX de WB9TOW: 7022.0 3Y0PI qsx 7032.2 0250Z 02/10/9402:56:15
DX de N8EMV: 7022.0 3Y0PI wrked 40.6 0308Z 02/10/9403:11:13
DX de WB9YXY: 3796.0 3Y0PI QSX 3785.0 0322Z 02/10/9403:23:52
DX de W9UI: 14195.1 3Y0PI on 6s then open 0324Z 02/10/9403:29:20
DX de WA9TPQ: 7022.0 3Y0PI wrkd 7.0365 0333Z 02/10/9403:35:49
DX de KB8LM: 3796.0 3Y0PI QSX 3785.00 NEED CONFIR 0345Z 02/10/9403:46:18
DX de WB9YXY: 3799.9 3Y0PI Moved...QSX 80-85 0415Z 02/10/9404:19:31
DX de W9VA: 14030.0 3Y0PI 0438Z 02/10/9404:40:02
DX de WG8M: 7022.1 3Y0PI QSX UP 0813Z 02/10/9408:13:45
DX de WG8M: 3800.0 3Y0PI 3794 0816Z 02/10/9408:16:53
DX de N8IAG: 28475.0 3Y0PI .480-.490 1947Z 02/10/9419:46:09
DX de K8JJC: 28475.0 3Y0PI BOB'S BACK. QSX 480-490. 2016Z 02/10/9420:17:35
DX de WD8PLE: 21295.0 3Y0PI TEST 2108Z 02/10/9421:07:19
DX de N8RGZ: 28475.0 3Y0PI worked 28.484.0 2145Z 02/10/9421:47:10
DX de KC8PG: 21295.0 3Y0PI GUD SIG 2205Z 02/10/9422:06:47
DX de KR8V: 14024.0 3Y0PI 2245Z 02/10/9422:47:31
DX de K8JJC: 14024.0 3Y0PI LAST STN WRKD 30.5 2314Z 02/10/9423:15:25
DX de KG8BZ: 14023.0 3Y0PI UP 0138Z 02/11/9401:38:30
DX de WA9AKT: 14087.5 V31JU RTTY - No 3Y0PI yet! 0145Z 02/11/9401:48:43
DX de WD0GHA: 14195.0 3Y0PI QSX 205-215 WKED 205.23 0247Z 02/11/9402:52:46
DX de W9HLY: 7038.0 3Y0PI wrking europe... 0336Z 02/11/9403:38:19
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Central Transport
central@msen.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:16:42 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!jabba.ess.harris.com!mlb.semi.harris.com!controls.ccd.harris.com!drs@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Vertical Antennas
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Mark Curran (curran@corona.med.utah.edu) wrote:
: Thanks for your reply Terry.
: Since the Vertical mail made it out to the usenet, I'll
: fill in the details. I'm interested in constructing a
: ground plane for 20 and/or 40 and was interested in
: finding out what has worked for others in terms or
: materials and layout. There is an artical from 1988
: QST describing elevated GP ants using 4 radials, rather
: than 120+ buried, and claiming good theoretical results.
I use a ground plane on 40 meters. It is full sized (33 feet long) and sits
on a 4 X 4 piece of wood buried in the ground. I have (for convenience only)
a tilt-over arrangement with the support. The aluminum tubing starts out
about 1 3/4 " and tapers as you go up. The base of the vertical is about
20 feet off the ground. I have had this same antenna 12 feet off the ground
with nearly good results. I have 6 radials draped off of it at about 45 degree
angles, and they are fastened to whatever I could find (trees, pvc pipe, etc).
My antenna puts me (on a DXing basis) in the second level in a pile-up. The
first level being those with 3 element full size beams at 120 feet, etc.
There has been occasions where I have beaten some of them out when the
propagation was favorable. In a nutshell, I will continue to use this antenna
until I (if ever) get to the 70-80 height with my tower. Then I would start
thinking about other antennas. If you don't put down a zillion radials, don't
even try mounting a vertical on the ground unless you are easily satisfied.
Some people claim that they have good results with a vertical on the ground,
but you can bet they don't work DX.
The second best (in my opinion) antenna for the lower heights is the
loop or delta loop antenna. It is quieter on receive than a vertical.
Doug N4IJ
: Specifically in my installation, I lack high supports
: for dipoles, zepps etc, and although my ladder line fed
: 80' flatop apparently works well, I was hoping to achieve
: a low angle of radiation and possibly better DX conditions
: by going vertical.
: A more appropriate forum for this is probably r.r.a.antenna,
: and I'd happily take comments to my e-mail box.
: Best 73s,
: Mark C.
: --
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: 8)
: Mark Curran 8)
: curran@corona.med.utah.edu 8) 8)
: Amateur Radio: KA1ODA/7 8) 8)
: * 8) 8)
: Hey Baby, Wanna come over and pet my Piranha? * 8)
: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8)
: ---------------------------------------------------------
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Doug Snowden
drs@ccd.harris.com
N4IJ
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Date: 8 Feb 1994 17:29:29 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!chuck@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <Anthony_Pelliccio-070294092539@138.16.64.8>, <2j6rtmINNf0s@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <Anthony_Pelliccio-080294103950@138.16.64.8>
Subject : Re: N connectors (was Re: "Flexible" 9913 (Was - Re: Coaxial cab
In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-080294103950@138.16.64.8> Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes:
>
>I had forgotten the weather resistance issue. But you're right in that most
>land-mobile radios tend to use SO-239 instead of N. But buy a UHF repeater
>and guess what, N connectors. By the way, I've finally met an N connector
>that I like. It's for the 9913 and it's GREAT! You don't have to comb out
>braid, you don't have to go nuts with 9 different parts, etc. This one is
>two pieces, you strip the coax down a bit, screw it in, use a bit of solder
>and you're in business.
Yep, with this bastardized "N" connector, you get all of the bad
characteristics of a PL-259, and none of the good characteristics of
the N connecter. A really fine connector!
(Hint, the worst things about the PL are soldering the braid, and lack of
weather resistance. The best things about the N are the solderless braid
connection, the physical strength, and the weather resistance.)
-----
Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 21:51:17 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!vmcms.csuohio.edu!R0264@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1994Feb9.031017.13806@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CKz3I8.6M4@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <2jbmp2$3jb@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>uoh
Subject : Re: Morse code as words!
In article <2jbmp2$3jb@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>I have been on CW for about 7 years. I first learned CW at age 14, and
>hear words like the, and, or, if, you, etc., etc.
>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
>
>And suffixes, like -ing, -est, -ier, and -er.
>
>Scott NF3I Just takes time, I guess. Throwing away the pencil is the key.
I'm getting there with short words and prefixes and suffixes. However,
it has seemed to me that the "single-letter" stage was a necessary one for
me, and I still have to resort to it when hearing callsigns and wierd
abbreviations. Also there are occasions where I copy with pencil and
paper, and then later by a process of inference, figure out what the stuff
means. So, I don't think throwing away the pencil is good blanket advice
for everybody under all circumstances. ----- Phil Emerson, AA8JO.
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:42:23 -0500
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <Anthony_Pelliccio-070294092539@138.16.64.8>, <2j6rtmINNf0s@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <757@comix.UUCP>chbbs
Subject : Re: N connectors (was Re: "Flexible" 9913 (Was - Re: Coaxial cab
In article <757@comix.UUCP>, jeffl@comix.UUCP (Jeff Liebermann) wrote:
> In article <2j6rtmINNf0s@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM
> writes:
> >
> >N connectors also make an effort to be weather resistant where PL-259/SO-239
> >do not. Land mobile radios seem to use SO-239 up to UHF (512MHZ max), then
> >N connectors (800/900, etc.).
>
> The Motorola Mostar 800Mhz trunked radio uses UHF connectors.
> As far as I know, it's the only 800Mhz radio that does.
No, almost every older 800 MHz radio used the UHF connector because
most service technicians could not properly assemble any other style. This
changed when crimp-on connectors became available and reliable; that is
also when Cellular started using the TNC rather than N.
Now that the Mini-UHF is readily available you will see them on all kinds
of RF equipment. They are properly designed to maintain a near 50 ohm
impedance at MUCH higher frequencies than the old mis-named UHF models.
Of course if you want the ultimate in both small and low VSWR, try the SMA.
> It
> also uses an automotive trailer power connector wired backwards
> (exposed +12v), so I don't consider this to be an exemplary radio.
Take another look at that power cable. On the power source side the +12
is the protected lead, not exposed, and it's still the same on Motorola
products today. Don't go by the color code on the pigtail in your car -
I've found an awful lot of people who ignored red and black when they
bought cables surplus. The key is that the ground lead on the source is
exposed, the source is protected. If your radio isn't that way, it was
serviced by someone who put the connector on backwards when he finished
working on the board!
>
> Drivel: One of my favorite dumb stunts is to solder type N connectors
> on both ends of some stiff coax (9913) while still rolled into a tight
> coil. When I straighten out the coax, the center pins pop out.
Same thing happens even with the big stuff like 7/8", so ALWAYS unroll it
before you connectorize.
>
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann Box 272 1540 Jackson Ave Ben Lomond CA 95005
> # 408.336.2558 voice wb6ssy@ki6eh.#nocal.ca.usa wb6ssy.ampr.org [44.4.18.10]
> # 408.699.0483 digital_pager 73557,2074 cis [don't]
> # jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us scruz.ucsc.edu!comix!jeffl
--
Karl Beckman, P.E. < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
Motorola Comm - Fixed Data < no earthquake is a match. -- Karl Kraus >
Some of the opinions expressed above aren't even claimed by the author!
Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
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