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Info-Hams Digest Mon, 7 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 118
Today's Topics:
ARLB016 Georgia bill introduced
ARLB017 RF standards opposed
ARLD008 DX news
Las Vegas Frequencies
Licence Recieve times...
Logging Programs
Operating in Canada?
RB312 SEMANTICS 2/7 FOR FEB 7TH
Spark Gap Transmitter
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 23:49:59 -0700
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!gumby!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLB016 Georgia bill introduced
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016
ARLB016 Georgia bill introduced
ZCZC AG80
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 23:57:42 -0700
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!gumby!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLB017 RF standards opposed
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB QST @ ARL $ARLB017
ARLB017 RF standards opposed
ZCZC AG81
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 17 ARLB017
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 23:58:33 -0700
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!gumby!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLD008 DX news
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB DX @ ARL $ARLD008
ARLD008 DX news
ZCZC AE06
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 8 ARLD008
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Date: 4 Feb 1994 16:16:32 GMT
From: olivea!koriel!newscast.West.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!webrider!doc@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Las Vegas Frequencies
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Greetings -
I am leaving for Las Vegas in a couple of days and wondered
if anyone had some frequency lists for the area. I would be
interested in a wide cross section of frequency categories.
Thanks for any help,
Steve
---
--
-- Steve Bunis, Sun Microsystems ***DoD #0795*** 93-ST1100
-- Itasca, IL ***AMA #682049***
-- ***HRCA #HM125617**
-- *** N9VLP ***
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Date: 6 Feb 1994 18:01:17 GMT
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!eng.ufl.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!ijordan@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Licence Recieve times...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
For all of you waiting for your licences, I and a friend of mine got our
licences (no code tech) yesterday, exactly 8 weeks after taking the test,
and we live in AZ. So it looks like the FCC is starting to get their act
together, since during the last eight weeks there was the break for the
cold storm and the winter holiday in the east. Good luck to the rest of ya.
--
Ian Jordan
KC7ANP
--
* * Ian Jordan * *
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 18:23:43 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!mlb.semi.harris.com!controls.ccd.harris.com!drs@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Logging Programs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have heard of "CT" logging software, I believe it is for contesting. Are
there any knowledgeable people out there that know of the various programs
available and what they support? I'd like one that supports mainly contests
like CQWW, ARRL DX, ARRL SS, and the like (maybe even Field Day). I'd like
something that doesnt require a bumch of memory and runs on an XT without
any sort of windows stuff. I'd also like the program be able to generate
labels.. Sounds like I'm writing my own specification.
--
Doug Snowden
drs@ccd.harris.com
N4IJ
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 19:01:03 GMT
From: world!cravit@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Operating in Canada?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2j39od$k0a@tribune.usask.ca>,
Peter Hardie,4805,, <hardie@herald.usask.ca> wrote:
>From article <06FEB94.12030322.0075@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, by NADO000 <NADO@UNB.CA>:
>> In article <CKsGp5.2KF@world.std.com> drt@world.std.com (David R Tucker) writes:
>>>According to that government official I talked to, as well as the
>>>rules near as I can tell, you are NOT, repeat NOT, restricted to your
>>>US amateur privileges while in Canada, contrary to what the ARRL rule
>>>book says. That means that it is perfectly legal for a General, while
>>>in Canada, to use phone on 14.110, or CW on 7.010. It's somewhat
>>>frustrating, because others have reported being told otherwise. But
>>
>> I disagree. You are stuck with US limits when you visit Canada
>You can disagree, but he's right. The regs clearly state that a U.S. amateur
>who is a U.S. citizen AND resident and who is qualified to send and receive
This is what the Canadian regs say. But the US regs say that an
amateur operating abroad under a US license and reciprocal treaty must
not exceed what their US license allows, even if permitted by the
foreign regulations.
/Matthew
--
Matthew Cravit, N9VWG | All opinions expressed here are
Michigan State University | my own. I don't speak for The World,
East Lansing, MI 48825 | and they don't speak for me (luckily
E-Mail: cravit@world.std.com | for both of us).
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 15:47:15 -0700
From: library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!deep.rsoft.bc.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: RB312 SEMANTICS 2/7 FOR FEB 7TH
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Bid : $RACESBUL.312
From: W6WWW@KD6XZ.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
To : RACES@ALLUS
TO: ALL ES, CD, AND PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTORS VIA AMATEUR RADIO
INFO: ALL RACES OPERATORS IN CALIFORNIA
INFO: ALL AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS
FROM: CA STATE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES
(W6SIG@WA6NWE.CA) Ph: 916-262-1600
2800 MEADOWVIEW RD., SACRAMENTO, CA 95832
LANDLINE BBS OPEN TO ALL 916-262-1657
RACESBUL.312 RELEASE DATE: February 7, 1994
Subject: MGT - Semantics 2/7 - Civil Defense
Semantics is the basis for the majority of misunderstandings or
disagreements. Semantics: the definition of words. A word that
means one thing in one part of the country can mean either
nothing or something else altogether in another part of the
country. Let's discuss some of the common position titles most of
us have heard at one time or another. Some of the titles apply to
paid staff, others to volunteers, and some are held by both.
CIVIL DEFENSE. This term is still used by many jurisdictions. In
others it has been changed to emergency services, emergency
management, disaster preparedness or similar name --- but it's
role is still the same. In some jurisdictions the civil defense
official is principally a planner and delegates all or most
activities to departments in the jurisdiction. In other
jurisdictions the position has command and control authority and
responsibility. The CD official may directly supervise the RACES
program in some jurisdictions. In others it has been delegated to
another department head. The final authority and responsibility,
however, always rests with the civil defense official.
(Part 2 of 7. Continued)
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RACES Bulletins are archived on the Internet at ucsd.edu in hamradio/races
and can be retrieved using FTP.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 05:12:40 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: Spark Gap Transmitter
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I posted this on .homebrew but thought some of you folks might get a kick
out of this too...
********************************************************************
Gang,
If you actually build and attempt to operate this xmtr PLEASE do not
tell the authorities, when they come to pick you up, where you got the
circuit from (I'll deny everything).
Credit Randy, KA1UNW for the design. He's a prolific builder, specializing
in the design of QRP tube xmtrs, on our QRP mail net and on the boatanchors
mail net.
Remember boys and girls, this offer is void where prohibited...
TSB xmitter
spark-gap
o o---+-----o ant
| |
( )
( L1 ) RFC
( |
( ###
(
_______________________________________ (
| | / L2 ) (
| --- C1 ___) (
| --- | ) (
| / |____________|___) (_______
| | | |
833 | 833 | | ###
__|__ L3 __|__ |________________o +3000v 700ma
.....___ ___..... _|_
__/^\__ UUUUUUUUUUUU __/^\__ ___ .1 uf 5kv
| | | | | |
| | > | | ###
| | <Rg | |
| |.001uf > .001uf| | <--- caps rated 1000v
| +-)(----+-----)(-+ |
| | | | |
| | ### | |
| | | |
| +----------+-----------+ |
|_ | _| | |_ | _|
UUU o UUU 10v 10a ct xformers
======= \o S1 =======
MMMMMMM | MMMMMMM
| | (.)mtr | |
o 117v o | o 117v o
>D F-24-a 's may be subbed for
| carbon mic 833's if supply's are made
### larger.
How it works:
The 2 tubes form a push pull power oscillator which makes alternating
current, but at a radio frequency.
This is done by use of L1 , L3, and the 2 little tubes.
In this case, the actual frequency is not important, since the objective
is to generate maximum bandwidth...the goal of any 'phone station.
C1 is used to obtain maximum power by resonating L1 to L2's natural freq.
This RF voltage is stepped up by a factor of 30 to 100X by L2 and sent on
to the spark-gap, where the actual RF-to-be-sent is generated.
The RFC keeps the ant ckt at DC ground, yet will not short out the RF...which
is sent from the sparkgap, to the ant.
The ant wants to be one wire, and end fed. No coax required..just hook 'er
up and duck.
The length of the antenna determines the sending band it will be on.
The formula to use to get that length is...
Feet = 468/(((F*F) +730 ) -(F*F))
F = frequency in Mhz ( rounded off to nearest 100 Khz )
Voice modulation is done by use of a special Carbon Microphone, as used in
the 1920's...which can handle several amps.
Here, rather than sending RF thru the mic as was done back then, only DC
is sent thru.
That way, the operator (or inflictor) won't get an RF burn on his lips if
he speaks too close to the mic.
That modulates the power to the tubes , which varies the intensity of the
spark which then puts quite suitable a signal on the air.
The intellegibility will match the content of some of the QSO's now on the air.
To operate:
1 Place mouth near carbon microphone.
2 Close S1 and adjust C1 for dip in current (mtr) quickly.
3 Make oinking and Mooing noises to indicate your presence to everyone.
4 Open S1 when you get around to it.
**************************************************************************
Again, credit (or blame) goes to Randy KA1UNW for this pup.
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB DX ARL ARLD008
ARLD008 DX news
The items in this week's bulletin are courtesy of Bob, W5KNE; QRZ
DX; and the Ohio/Penn and Yankee Clipper Contest Club PacketCluster
networks. Thanks.
PETER FIRST ISLAND. 3Y0PI has been active for several days. The
last 100 PacketCluster spots show stations in the northeast US
working them on all bands 40 through 10 meters.
On CW try 1826, 3522, 7022, 10104, 14024, 18074, 21024, 24894 and
28024 kHz. Listen for their SSB on 1845, 3785, 7065, 14195, 18145,
21295, 24945 and 28475 kHz. For RTTY try 1825, 3680, 14080, 21080
and 28180 kHz; and satellite action on 145.890 MHz listening down on
OSCAR 10 and 13.
On HF the split windows are 5 to 10 kHz wide maximum on CW and 25
kHz on SSB. Stateside stations are being worked by call areas
following propagation patterns, typically 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 0, 5, 7
and 6.
At around 1800z February 3, the DXpedition crew had some problems
with their generators. The icebreaker that is to pick them up is
running six days behind schedule, so the new pick up date is
February 19.
MOUNT ATHOS. Monk Apollo, SV2ASP/A, has been heard on some of the
WARC bands with a very strong signal, most notably on 17 meters.
Also check between 3790 and 3795 kHz at 0530 and 1700z. He recently
showed up on the 21335 DX Net around 1345z.
KERGUELEN ISLAND. New amateur Pierre, FT5XJ, will be on the island
until July for a three month leave. When he returns his stay will
be for a year. He has been on 14250 kHz at 0500z, 14191 kHz at
1420z and can sometimes be found on 14198 kHz. QSL via F5NLL.
TONGA. Jim, VK9NS, is on as A35MR. He was worked on 21260 kHz
between 2100 and 2200z. A35KB has also been active. Nob, JF2MBF,
ex VR6JJ, along with Yasu, JI1NJC, will start a four week Pacific
DXpedition from Tonga as A35JJ from February 12 to 20. This will be
all band CW, SSB, RTTY and satellite operation. QSL A35JJ via
JR2KDN.
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS. Ed, K9IMM, and Carol, NS9L, will be on
Provos from February 17 to 24. K9IMM will operate the ARRL CW DX
Contest on 160 meters as VP5B. Before and after the contest Ed and
Carol will operate as VP5/ their own calls on 160 through 10 meters,
some of which may be with QRP. QSL via WB9NOV w/SASE.
THIS WEEKEND ON THE RADIO. The North American Sprint CW, sponsored
by the National Contest Journal, NCJ, runs for four hours starting
at 0000z February 6, or Saturday night local time. Check around
3540, 7040 and 14040 kHz. Complete rules appear on page 127 of
January QST.
The 1994 Classic Radio Exchange is from 2000z February 6 to 0400z on
the 7th. Amateurs are encouraged to operate restored equipment at
least 10 years old. Exchange name, RST, QTH, receiver and
transmitter type. CW action will be 60 kHz up from the bottom of
the band. For SSB try 3880, 7290, 14280, 21380 and 28320 kHz.
Novice/Tech stations on HF will be 20 kHz up from lower subband
edge.
The Vermont QSO Party, sponsored by the Central Vermont ARC, is a
must for those needing Vermont for their WAS awards. It starts at
0000z February 5 and ends at 0500z on the 6th. Activity will be on
160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 meters.
For further information on these three operating events, check page
127 of January QST.
NNNN
/EX
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB QST ARL ARLB016
ARLB016 Georgia bill introduced
A bill introduced in the Georgia Legislature that would eliminate
the effect of restrictive property covenants on amateurs is believed
to be the first of its type in the nation, according to Georgia
Section Manager Jim Altman, N4UCK.
The bill, H.B. 1134, would prevent all new and renewed covenants
from regulating, controlling, or restricting antennas owned and
operated by licensed amateurs in the state.
Altman said that, in Georgia, all restrictive covenants have a life
of 20 years, but can be renewed. This law, in banning new and
renewed covenants, would leave the existing covenants in place until
their natural expiration, and prevent new ones. Over the next 20
years, all existing covenants would disappear.
The bill was initially referred to the State Bar committee on real
property law, which gave the measure a ''do pass'' recommendation.
Amateurs in Georgia are urged to contact their state legislators and
urge their support of H.B. 1134. For more information, contact
Altman or the Regulatory Information Branch at ARRL Headquarters.
NNNN
/EX
SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-60.006
STS-60 Element Set for 2/4/94
The official SAREX element set for today will be GSFC-003. Gil Carman,
WA5NOM reports that the predictions using GSFC-003 are 9 seconds later than
with JSC-004. Element set GSFC-003, developed by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, and
shown below, is consistent with the current orbiter state vector.
1 22977U 94006A 94 35.13981770 0.00000202 00000-0 58718-5 0 37
2 22977 56.9857 213.2731 0008535 263.0773 96.9324 15.72145611 115
Satellite: STS-60
Catalog number: 22977
Epoch time: 94035.13981770 (04 FEB 94 03:21:20.25 UTC)
Element set: GSFC-003
Inclination: 56.9857 deg
RA of node: 213.2731 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-60
Eccentricity: 0.0008535 Keplerian Elements
Arg of perigee: 263.0773 deg
Mean anomaly: 96.9324 deg
Mean motion: 15.72145611 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6730.8981 Km
Decay rate: 0.20E-05 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 358.25 Km
Epoch rev: 11 Perigee Alt: 346.77 Km
NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 003.
The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO, for the SAREX Working Group
NNNN
/EX
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 02:17:16 GMT
From: agate!netsys!direct!kg7bk@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2itt8qINN3q@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>, <CKpy6n.4F7@news.direct.net>, <1994Feb6.180558.1229@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Re: "Flexible" 9913 (Was - Re: Coaxial cable)
Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
: bump on the coax that can affect VSWR. *However*, their impedance mismatch
: can be *absorbed* into radio or antenna matching networks by competent
: designers. Therefore, the coax sees a match even though the connector in
: isolation would present a mismatch. So it's OK to have them at the endpoints
: of a line *if the equipment is designed for them*. Having them in the middle
: Gary Coffman KE4ZV
Gary, would you say my Alinco DR-570 with it's so239 and my Comet 2x4MAX with
it's so239 are "absorbed...by competent designers"?
thanks and 73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
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Date: 4 Feb 1994 20:37:00 -0500
From: news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!news.clark.net!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <01H8EZGJ1SCIDU7RYC@tntech.edu>, <1994Feb4.055258.16511@cyphyn.radnet.com>, <CKpnxz.4LJ@ucdavis.edu>ntli
Subject : Re: was 40 meter QRP now hobbies
>that computers, aviation and photography top the list. So.... what are
>some of the hobbies of the r.r.a.* crowd?
How about running, biking, hiking, camping, computers, and music !!!
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John A. Evans, Capt, USAF "My number one goal as a
VHDL/EDA Engineer runner is to live long enough
N3QOO Tech Plus !!! to place in my age group!!!"
jaevans@clark.net Linux - the OS of choice !!
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Once data encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have data encryption !!!
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 02:09:14 GMT
From: agate!netsys!direct!kg7bk@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CKM79r.45H@sunsrvr6.cci.com>, <2ire53$o2g@explorer.clark.net>, <2iui7p$vm@cascade.ens.tek.com>
Subject : Re: Vertical Antennas
Terry Burge (t1terryb@cascade.ens.tek.com) wrote:
: >>A quarter wave ground plane has a gain of some-
: >>where around 6 db over isotropic where a dipole has a gain of 2.14 db over
: >>isotropic at it's theoritical best. Terry Burge KI7M
I can't always tell who said what but whoever said a dipole has a gain of
2.14db over isotropic has to remember that that is in free space. A half-
wave horizontal dipole over ground has somewhere around 7dbi gain
depending on the ground. A half-wave horizontal dipole at a reasonable
height has more gain than a quarter-wave vertical. A half-wave vertical
has more gain than a quarter-wave vertical.
73, Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB QST ARL ARLB017
ARLB017 RF standards opposed
RF standards opposed
The ARRL has told the FCC that a proposal to adopt new standards for
exposure to radio frequency radiation should be terminated.
The League said that the proposal, which would change the
Commission's guidelines to match those adopted by the American
National Standards Institute (ANSI) and the Institute of Electrical
and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) in 1992, was premature, and more
properly should have been introduced as an FCC notice of inquiry.
The ARRL said that the ANSI/IEEE standards were not properly
delineated and not a proper basis for evaluating communications
facilities. The new standards would replace less stringent
standards adopted in 1982.
The League said that an FCC Report and Order in 1987 that concluded
that amateur stations should be exempted from such RF exposure
guidelines, because amateur stations operate only intermittently,
and at low power levels, still applies. Only rarely, the League
said, would amateur stations even exceed the proposed, more
stringent 1992 ANSI/IEEE standard.
The League said that the FCC's proceeding should be terminated in
favor of more study, by a more appropriate government agency, such
as the Environmental Protection Agency, or else by an FCC notice of
inquiry.
This proposal, in ET Docket 93-62, was made in the spring of 1993
and its comment deadline has been extended several times, most
recently to January 25, 1994, based on a request by CBS Inc. The
reply comment deadline is February 24, 1994.
NNNN
/EX
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:53:43 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2hmper$ppo@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, <CKBJtu.45s@freenet.carleton.ca>, <2ik0cn$9hq@orca.es.com>
Subject : Re: Famous hams
In article <2ik0cn$9hq@orca.es.com> alan@olin.es.com (Alan Brubaker) writes:
>In article <CKBJtu.45s@freenet.carleton.ca> ab510@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (George Attallah) writes:
>>
> ...Famous Hams...
>>
>>H0HO Santa Claus
>>W7KID Billy The Kid
>>
>
>How could you forget:
>
>SL1CE Lorena Bobbitt
SK8TR Tonya ``Will she be indicted?'' Harding
Jeffrey NH6IL jherman@hawaii.edu
Vietnamese Proverb: If you study you will become what you wish
If you do not study you will never become anything.
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:45:26 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <9401301805.AA17277@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>, <19940131.02065376.armond@delphi.com>, <CKIHK9.2ss@ucdavis.edu>
Subject : Re: Boring WWV Programs
In article <CKIHK9.2ss@ucdavis.edu> ez006683@chip.ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd) writes:
>ARMOND@delphi.com wrote:
>: Those WWV people are not nice at all. I was just trying to be helpful
>: when I called to tell them that my S-38 (which I got at a swapmeet
>: for $15) inmdicated that WWV was about 10 kilocycles off. That, when
>: they were not drifting. I suggested they go to crystal control.
>: I got this really neat Timex watch at a yard sale for $5. It sez that
>: ] WWV is about 30 seconds off. What snotty people work at WWV. They did
>: not appreciate my helpful call at all.
>
>Perhaps you should have used the telephone instead of calling them on
>frequency. BTW: yopu were 59 in No. Cal
>;-)
You could get even with them by reporting them to the FCC for not ID'ing
every ten minutes. I really don't know who they think they are - hogging
so many frequencies; and they're certainly running more than the legal
limit. Stuck up, too - they never answer my QRZ? calls...
Jeffrey NH6IL jherman@hawaii.edu
Vietnamese Proverb: If you study you will become what you wish
If you do not study you will never become anything.
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