Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 11:10:31 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #104 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Wed, 2 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 104 Today's Topics: 2-Meter in London and Dublin? Callsign change Coaxial cable (2 msgs) Dayton Parking: Hell on Earth! For Sale FTP site for Keps Got a callbook handy? Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM $15.95 (Update) RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER RB311 MGT-SEMANTICS 1/7 repeaters in Western N.Y. Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:04:41 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!newncar!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin052!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 2-Meter in London and Dublin? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu You'd best contact the ARRL, they should have all the info needed You will need reciprocal licences for both the Irish republic and for the United Kingdom. You might have trouble even getting your radio into the country without one (or might not... enforcement is a little variable) UK 2 metre band is only 144.000 to 146.000 usual channel spacing is 25kHz, with some people using 12.5 kHz. Repeaters have input freq 600 kHz below output freq. Simplex FM calling on 145.500 repeater outputs usually 145.600 "R0" 145.625 "R1" 145.675 "R2" 145.700 145.725 etc. 145.750 145.775 Don't transmit above 146 There are fewer repeaters than you are likely used to, none are private, none are closed. One of their licence conditions is that they must be available to all licenced radio amateurs. Unfortunately some in the London area are prone to jammers. In this country it is illegal (fines, jail, confiscation of all radios) to listen to anything that you do not have a specific licence for - this means ANYTHING other than broadcasters and amateurs. The police are growing aware of scanners and have made total fools of some people scanning their radio systems with spoof reports of flying saucers used to get the eavesdroppers to go see, and be arrested. Cases are rare, but it is most unwise to wander around a city with police, fire, etc noises coming out of your radio. Have fun David GM4ZNX You might be tight on time.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 16:49:20 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!panasonic.com!atvl6!wiseman@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Callsign change To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am new to this group, so pardon me if this has been asked recently. I have not transmitted anything in the last 3 years due to the usual reasons (new job, new house, new kid, no time). Now that I am getting things back into shape, I would like to know what the FCC regs are in regards to a change of callsign. I moved from New Mexico where I had the call KA5WTO. I would like that changed to reflect my new district (3), and at the same time reflect my Advanced class. Is this possible, or do I just sign /3 forever? John KA5WTO ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 12:08:42 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!twg.com!eco.twg.com!psinntp!hk.super.net!uxmail!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!eng_ser1!ykchoy@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Coaxial cable To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hello, I'd like to have some good quality coaxial cable. Can you give me any suggestions if you know? I am making a project on global position system. Previously, I used a coaxial cable of 10 M to connect the antenna and the GPS together. It worked normally. However, when I change the cable to be 80 M in length, I can't get any signals. I suspect that the signal loss in such a long cable is very great. So I want to buy a cable of better quality to reduce the loss. Now, I am using a 50 ohm cable, RG-58 A/U! Thanks! -- Frankie Choy Pager: 1103301 A/C 1681 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:53:24 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!newncar!uchinews!att-out!cbfsb!cbnews!cbnewst!cbnewsm!gdo%aloft.att.com@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Coaxial cable To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <CKE4EJ.3Fr@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>, ykchoy@ee.cuhk.hk (Frankie Choy) writes: |> Hello, |> |> I'd like to have some good quality coaxial cable. Can you give |> me any suggestions if you know? |> |> I am making a project on global position system. Previously, I used |> a coaxial cable of 10 M to connect the antenna and the GPS together. |> It worked normally. However, when I change the cable to be 80 M in |> length, I can't get any signals. I suspect that the signal loss in |> such a long cable is very great. So I want to buy a cable of |> better quality to reduce the loss. |> |> Now, I am using a 50 ohm cable, RG-58 A/U! |> |> Thanks! |> |> -- |> Frankie Choy |> |> Pager: 1103301 A/C 1681 |> Hi Frankie, Your suspicions about the cable are absolutely correct. RG-58 is horrible at the GPS frequencies. ANY RG-8 type cable is better than RG-58, but you may want to invest the extra bucks in Belden 9913 (or equiv). It's about the best RG-8 type cable around for the money. It's low loss and has a semi-hollow dielectric which makes it a little more difficult to solder on connectors. With a little care, you should be OK, though. Good luck es 73 de Glenn, N3BDA. -- Glenn D. O'Donnell, N3BDA Internet: gdo@aloft.att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories Amateur Radio: n3bda@n3dpu.#epa.pa.usa.na Allentown, PA Home QTH: Palmerton, PA (Grid FN20eu) ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 1994 16:54:24 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!news1.oakland.edu!vela.acs.oakland.edu!prvalko@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Dayton Parking: Hell on Earth! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Well folks, if you've read the latest Ham Radio Newsline you MIGHT have noticed the casual mention that their MIGHT(?) not be busses available to shuttle people around from hotels to Hara this year. I tended to take my car anyways and pay the $5 to park in the field on the east side of HARA... but if those busses are not available... be prepared to spend HOURS in what will undoubtedly be the worse traffic jam this side of L.A. Anyone remember the rain two (or three?) years back? That field turned into a swamp trapping dozens of cars and RV's for the weekend. Imagine it with... say... 6,000 more cars? Is anyone associated with DARA on the net? What "improvements" do you folks plan to make with the money saved on not providing the WONDERFUL bus service? The hamvention is the greatest event in all of ham radio and short of moving to a bigger city, I can't think of anything you could do to make it better. Well, there are those grey hot dogs they sell... but that's Ohio for you. I'm not out to scare anyone away (heh heh) but that guy who posted the "Jesus is coming" thread can rest easy because not even the Lord himself will be able to get out of the traffic jam around Dayton on April 29th! 73 all! CU on Shiloh Springs Road. paul ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 94 18:20:58 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: For Sale To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Have a nice ICOM 737 Mint Condition less than 40 Operating hours w/External Speaker Asking $1050.00 Also a External VFO for Yaesu FT 107 Mint Asking $125.00 Call Sam W2DDN, Area code 201-335-5732. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 05:49:44 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wy1z@decwrl.dec.com Subject: FTP site for Keps To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <wy1zCKFH90.9Fr@netcom.com> wy1z@netcom.com (Scott Ehrlich) writes: >In article <9401290147301913@springsboard.org> alex.lane@springsboard.org (ALEX LANE) writes: >>Gary R. Smith AA9JS posted a note asking about ftp sites for Keplerian >>elements, and I'd like to go further and ask: >> >>Does anyone know if there is a listserv mailing list one can subscribe >>to in order to obtain this info? My BBS doesn't have ftp capability. >> >>Thanks in advance. >>Cheers... >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> Alex Lane (303) 264-2339 | alex.lane@springsboard.org >> The SpringsBoard BBS | KD6JJA >> Pagosa Springs, Colorado | "You *can* get here from there!" >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >Everyone is welcome to subscribe to the Boston Amateur Radio Club's >e-mail reflector of the ARRL's Bulletins, which includes Keps. > >To subscribe, send a message to: majordomo@world.std.com > >In the body of your message, type: subscribe w1aw-list > >That's it! > >For past keps sets, try anonymous ftp into World: >ftp world.std.com, cd pub/hamradio/BARC/w1aw-list/Keplerian-Data ^ Sorry, but I hit the wrong key on keyboard. The above pointer should be an 'a', making it: Keplarian-Data Sorry about that. > >73, >Scott, WY1Z > -- =============================================================================== | Scott Ehrlich Internet: wy1z@neu.edu BITNET: wy1z@NUHUB | | Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@k1ugm.ma.usa.na | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on | | the World - world.std.com pub/hamradio | =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 20:14:28 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!searanch@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Got a callbook handy? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I'm trying to locate an old pal, Barry Milburg, WD4DAA. He moved from Atlanta to New Jersey in 1988, and may have changed his call. But if someone would take a peek at a current call book and let me have a mailing address (assuming he didn't change his call), I'd appreciate it. Many thanks. 73 Rob Diefenbach WD4NEK -- *************************************************************** Robert C. (Rob) Diefenbach - (404) 934-8460 2402 Lauderdale Drive, N.E. - Fax (404) 908-1603 Atlanta, Georgia 30345-2214 - CIS 76703,4045 *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:53:17 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!sgiblab!twg.com!eco.twg.com!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Jeffrey Wittich (jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca) wrote: : Hi, everybody. Well, its about spring, and that means we are : getting ready for the local HamFest round here. Im looking : at the hamfest flyer, and one on the events listed is : The Royal Order of Whoff Hong Induction. Well ya see, Im kind : of a new guy, and dunno what thats all about. I asked about it : the local 2 meter repeater, and you should have heard the : snickers and snorks. I quickly surmised that it was a secret. : So keeping with the spirit of fun, I will not just ask : what this is all about, but I do have a few questions: : 1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense? No, if you are into a bit of nostalgia and tradition, you will probably be glad you went. Those who want to look down their noses at anything that is less modern than rap would probably be better off to retire early. : 2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at? Only if you plan on embarrassing yourself. : 3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any : other night? You will be fine; well, maybe. At most of these ceremonies, the chairs are arranged in rows, with a set of chairs across the back. Don't sit in the two chairs across the back wall in the middle row . . . no, I have said too much. : 4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen? More'n likely. : 5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved? Like most bad things in life, only that which is self-inflicted. : 6. Could I be black-mailed for being there? Only by those who look down their noses at anything less modern than rap! : 7. Why am I so paranoid about this? See the answer to #5. :-) Good luck! Actually, I finally attended a cermony. I hate rap, so I enjoyed myself. 73, Ed -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:57:57 GMT From: ditdah!mjohnsto@uunet.uu.net Subject: QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM $15.95 (Update) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Thanks to all those who've responded to our offer for the QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM. 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This edition is edited by Fred LLoyd, AA7BQ -- Michael R. Johnston Linux Technical Support Service: lssinfo@Morse.Net mjohnsto@Morse.Net Linux on Disk: linux@Morse.Net Morse Telecommunications Unlimited, flat-rate Usenet feeds: netinfo@Morse.Net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 19:39:45 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu Subject: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Greg Bullough (greg@netcom.com) wrote: : Yup. One of the difficulties, over the years, is that many of the : folks at ARRL HQ 'just didn't understand,' ... : The 'drum' being banged is one which rings out 'build build build.' If you're talking about QST, I disagree 100%. I wish QST had MORE construction articles, not fewer. In case you haven't noticed, QST has changed in the last few years. There are many fewer technical articles than there used to be and a lot more fiction and other "fluff" articles. I liked it better the old way. But fortunately or unfortunately, the ARRL is a democratic organization and their perception is that the members are not as technically inclined as they used to be. AL N1AL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 09:03:05 -0700 From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: RB311 MGT-SEMANTICS 1/7 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Bid : $RACESBUL.311 From: W6SIG@KD6XZ.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM To : RACES@ALLUS TO: ALL ES, CD, AND PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTORS VIA AMATEUR RADIO INFO: ALL RACES OPERATORS IN CALIFORNIA INFO: ALL AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS FROM: CA STATE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES (W6SIG@WA6NWE.CA) Ph: 916-262-1600 2800 MEADOWVIEW RD., SACRAMENTO, CA 95832 LANDLINE BBS OPEN TO ALL 916-262-1657 RACESBUL.311 RELEASE DATE: JANUARY 31, 1994 Subject: MGT - SEMANTICS 1/7 This is the first in a series in response to letters, messages, and queries at seminars. Probably the biggest problem with these bulletins, and one that may never be resolved, is misinterpretation or misunderstanding of the written word. What is intended by the writer and how it is interpreted by the readers may not be the same. When RACES seminars are conducted in person it is much easier to clarify issues that arise over such misinterpretation as well as others. Whereas these BULLETINS are called "RACES" they are for all communications volunteers in government service. This includes Public Safety, RACES and the Civil Air Patrol. The current RACES BULLETIN series began in l985. It was the first effort to document program issues, ideas, definitions and guidance since 1960. They went national in 1989 at the request of the ARRL. In response, you have rewarded us with positive feedback, input and support from all over the U.S., Canada and Australia, for which we are most appreciative. Series authored by Stanly E. Harter, originally titled "From My Lookout". Edited for digital transmission. Uploaded by unpaid [volunteer] professionals in public safety and public service telecommunications. (To be continued.) eom ----------------- RACES Bulletins are archived on the Internet at ucsd.edu in hamradio/races and can be retrieved using FTP. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 03:38:00 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!opnpaul@network.ucsd.edu Subject: repeaters in Western N.Y. To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Greetings, Does anybody know what repeater is located at the top of the Kissing Bridge Ski Resort in Colden N.Y. Also, who runs it and what frequence does it use. thanks in advance, Paul Francavilla ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 1994 17:49:08 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!bobw@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <Jan.27.10.19.43.1994.3681@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, <2i8qrt$11n@hp-col.col.hp.com>, <19940130.22310817.forbest@delphi.com>o Subject : Re: Is there a faq list for GMRS? Thom Forbes (forbest@delphi.com) wrote: : Frank, : The best source of info re: GMRS, by far, is: Personal Radio Steering Group : they are at: P.O. Box 2851, Ann Arbor Mich 48106, Voice (313)-MOBILE3, and : have a BBS at (313)-995-2100. : I agree 132% : PS. Iv'e not seen a GMRS FAQ on internet. There really is one under rec.radio.cb (The last part of the generic 'CB' FAQ) Bob Witte / HP PMO (Colo Springs) / bobw@col.hp.com / KB0CY / (719) 590-3230 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:41:28 GMT From: darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!olivea!koriel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!taco!riogrande.acs.ncsu.edu!nsyslaw@seismo.css.gov To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <hatunenCKI4Mx.4HD@netcom.com>, <tweekCKI8FK.5xr@netcom.com>, <CKIGvt.4zw@cup.hp.com>ac Subject : Re: FCC Database Online For Calif. Jim Hollenback (jholly@cup.hp.com) wrote: : Michael D. Maxfield (tweek@netcom.com) wrote: : : I too was hoping for a little different implementation. I noticed that : : you must exactly match the Licensee name (MC DONALDS REST works whereas : : MC DONALDS does not work) as it is in the licensee field. : of all the things to listen to on a scanner, I still am trying to figure : out why some one would want to listen to "that's a big Mac, .....". Watching : paint dry must really make some people wet thier pants. Quite the contrary. I found one by accident, and while waiting for a simple cup of coffee I could tell the two cars who had ordered before me were going to cause a 15 minute + wait. I decided quickly (because I'd heard the order/reply/sleepiness of the clerk) that maybe I should go elsewhere. Had I not heard what was in front of me, I'd probably have waited until I was fuming mad and then left. So now, I don't need blood pressure treatment! :) Actually - any radio broadcast has it's usefulness. Its up to the listener to decide what that usefulness is. (and it's legality, of course, disclaimer alert, etc, etc, etc) -- Lou Williams (nsyslaw@acs.ncsu.edu) | aka: KE4ARM Unix Systems Programmer | Phone: (919) 515-2794 NCSU Administrative Computing Services | FAX: (919) 515-3787 ---- February 1st, 1993, The Raw Deal Countdown continues: Day 378 for the poor & middle class. Day 397 for the rich & the dead. (due to retroactivity) 1082 Days remaining for all of us. ---- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:51:05 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab510@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <mosier.63.0@fagan.uncg.edu>, <2hmper$ppo@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, <CKBJtu.45s@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To : ab510@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (George Attallah) Subject : Re: Famous hams In a previous article, alan@olin.es.com (Alan Brubaker) says: >In article <CKBJtu.45s@freenet.carleton.ca> ab510@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (George Attallah) writes: >> > ...Famous Hams... > >How could you forget: > >SL1CE Lorena Bobbitt > I had Lorena Bobbit tagged as N1CUT -- GEORGE ATTALLAH - VE3KIA -OTTAWA CANADA "THE LAST SURVIVOR OF THE GROUP OF ONE" "THE ONLY ONE IN CAPTIVITY" ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #104 ****************************** ******************************