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Info-Hams Digest Sun, 9 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 18
Today's Topics:
ANS-008 BULLETINS
Display Phone for Packet
Morse Code
Phonecalls from 20,000 feet?!...
RAMSEY KITS NOT TOO G
Repeater database? (2 msgs)
RFD: sci.geo.satnav
Superpressure balloon info?
Vanity Callsign Notice of Propsed Rulemaking (PR93-305)
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Date: 10 Jan 94 00:21:44 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ANS-008 BULLETINS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-008.01
PoSAT-1 BBS TO OPEN
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 008.01 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JANUARY 8, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-008.01
PoSAT-1 Opens For Radio Amateur Use
As many of you may already know, PoSAT-1 was built at University of Surrey
and is owned by a Portuguese Industrial Consortium. It carries a commer-
cial and an Amateur Radio payload. The Amateur Service hasn't yet started
operation because of some doubts about the use of PoSAT-1 were brought up
because of the the possiblity of misuse of the Amateur Radio spectrum.
AMSAT-PO (the Portuguese AMSAT "branch") and others were very worried about
this situation, and after a few setbacks and many meetings, a protocol was
finally established between the PoSAT Industrial Consortium and AMSAT-PO on
6-DEC-93. The main concern of AMSAT-PO was always to protect the Amateur
bands and the Amateur code and practice.
Jose Carlos (CT1ERC) has provided the main points of that agreement which
are as follows:
* RAM memory allocated to the Amateur store-and-forward BBS: at least 6 MB
out of a total of 16 MB;
* The operating schedule (between the commercial and Amateur service) will
be valid for two years and may be re-negotiated every two years;
* The Amateur ground stations are allowed to download all the files related
to the technical and scientific experiments onboard, but by imposition of
the Consortium, the IMAGES TAKEN BY THE ONBOARD CCD CAMERAS WILL NOT BE
MADE AVAILABLE TO THE AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE!!!
In a meeting held recently between AMSAT-PO officials and the PoSAT
Consortium the schedule approved is as follows:
EVERY minute PoSAT will be 5 seconds in the commercial frequencies and
the remaining 55 seconds in the amateur frequencies. The Consortium
feels that they need at lest 5 seconds to download the images. The
telemetry will be downloaded in the amateur frequencies as well. This
schedule will be valid starting on 07-JAN-94.
Since the amateurs aren't allowed to download the image files from the
onboard cameras, there are the two experiments that will, however, be quite
interesting. The are the following:
1) The onboard GPS receiver: if everything goes as expected, the days of
difficult tracking are over. Just wait the AOS and the satellite will
tell you were it is and where to point your antennas, if you know your
QTH position.
2) The possibility of operation at 38.4 Kbps provided through the DSP
system, which is will allow the amateurs to develope the necessary RF
and digital techniques to go beyond 9600 baud. Imagine receiving
about 100 Kbytes file in just 5 seconds!
PoSAT-1 will benefit mostly the amateurs that have 9600 baud operational
capability and since there are only two of 9600 baud capable stations at
the present time in Portugal operating regularly using these birds, your
suggestions and comments would be most appreciated and might help AMSAT-PO
in their contacts and negotiations with the PoSAT Consortium through
AMSAT-PO.
The following are the PoSAT-1 radio amateur frequencies:
PoSat-1 Transponder Frequencies
UPLINK 145.975 MHz 145.925 MHz (Secondary)
DONWLINK 435.075 MHz 435.050 MHz (Secondary)
BBSCALL: posat-11 posat-12
[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank Jose Carlos (CT1ERC) for
this bulletin item. CT1ERC can receive your inquiries and comments on the
BBS of KO-23 or at his INTERNET mailbox address of: J_CARDOSO%utad.pt@
nunes.uminho.pt]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-008.02
MIR GETS A NEW CREW
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 008.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JANUARY 8, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-008.02
New Cosmonauts To Begin Stay on MIR
Today, 08-JAN-94, a Soyuz TM-18 spacecraft was launched from Baikonur at
10:08 UTC with three cosmonauts aboard. The new cosmonauts are Victor
Afanassiev (U9MIR), Yuri Usachov (R3MIR), and Valery Poliakov (U3MIR).
The TM-18 spacecraft is scheduled to dock with the MIR space station on
10-JAN-94. The cosmonauts that are currently aboard MIR,Vassili Tsybliev
and Alexander Serebrov (R0MIR), will return to earth on 14-JAN-94.
What is interesting to note about U3MIR is that he will attempt to break
Musa Manarov record for remaining in space. U3MIR is a medical doctor and
will remain aboard MIR until April '95.
The new MIR QSL Manager is Serge Samburov (RV3DR). He has held that
position since January '93. To receive a QSL confirming your MIR contact,
send your QSL cards to his postal address of: P.O.BOX 73, Kaliningrad-10
City, Moscow Area, 141070, RUSSIA. Also, you can send your inquiries to
the following packet radio address: RV3DR#R#MIR or RV3DR@RK3KP.#MSK.RUS.EU.
[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank RV3DR and LW2DTZ for this
for the information which went into this bulletin item.]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-008.03
STS-60 SAREX MISSION INFO
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 008.03 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JANUARY 8, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-008.03
Next SAREX Mission: STS-60
The STS-60 flight of the Space Shuttle Discovery represents the next
Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) mission. STS-60 is
currently scheduled for launch on February 3, 1994 at 12:10 UTC. The
primary payloads on-board STS-60 are the Wake Shield Facility and the
second flight of the Spacehab, a pressurized module installed in the
forward section of the Orbiter. The Spacehab science objectives are
primarily micro-gravity oriented with emphasis on materials and life
science.
The flight of STS-60 represents an historic first---the first joint
U.S.-Russian Space Shuttle flight. This will be the first of several
joint missions planned in preparation for the development of the
international Space Station. Cosmonaut Sergei Krikalev, U5MIR, was
chosen to be the first Russian to fly on the U.S. Space Shuttle.
During the 8 day flight, Cosmonaut Krikalev will support the science
operations on the Space Shuttle as Mission Specialist 4.
The SAREX operations on this flight include voice and packet.
Preliminary discussions between the astronauts and the SAREX working
group indicate that the Shuttle crew will be extremely busy with the
numerous payloads on this flight. This information is being provided
so the amateur community is aware that voice operations might be rare
on this flight. Packet radio operations are expected when the crew
is not engaged in voice operations. Please remember that this is a
preflight prediction. The astronauts and the SAREX working group
cannot guarantee this prediction. The following information sheet
gives more details on SAREX operations for STS-60.
STS-60 Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX)
Information Sheet
Mission:STS-60 Space Shuttle Discovery
Wake Shield Facility & Spacehab-2 Mission
Launch: February 3, 1994, 12:10 UTC
Orbit: 57 degree inclination
Mission Length:8 days (Nominal)
Amateur Radio Operators: Charlie Bolden (License Pending), Ron Sega
(License Pending), Sergei Krikalev, U5MIR
Modes:FM Voice
Prime callsign: To be provided once Commander Bolden's callsign is known
Packet Radio: Callsign W5RRR-1
Frequencies: All operations in split mode. Do not transmit on
the downlink frequency.
Voice Freqs: Downlink: 145.55 MHz (Worldwide)
Uplinks: 144.91, 144.93, 144.95, 144.97,
144.99 MHz (Except Europe)
144.70, 144.75, 144.80 MHz (Europe only)
Note: The crew will not favor any specific uplink frequency, so your ability to
work the crew will be the "luck of the draw."
Packet Freqs: Downlink: 145.55 MHz
Uplink: 144.49 MHz
Info: Goddard Amateur Radio Club, WA3NAN, Greenbelt Maryland,
SAREX Bulletins and Shuttle Retransmissions
3860 KHz, 7185 KHz, 14,295 KHz, 21,395 KHz, 28,650 KHz
and 147.45 MHz (FM)
Johnson Space Center ARC, W5RRR, Houston, Texas
SAREX Bulletins 7225 KHz, 14,280 KHz, 21,395 KHz, 28,650 KHz, (SSB)
and 146.64 MHz (FM)
ARRL Amateur Radio Station, W1AW, Newington, CT
SAREX News Bulletins: 3990, 7290, 14,290, 18,160, 21,390,
and 28,590 KHz and 147.555 MHz (FM)
Also, bulletins available on internet, via AMSAT ANS, Compuserve,
and your local PBSS.
School Group Participation: 5 school groups will participate in SAREX with
pre-scheduled direct and telebridge contacts.
These include 4 in the U.S., and one in Russia.
Prelaunch Keplerian Elements: The following Keplerian Elements are provided by
Gil Carman (WA5NOM) at the Johnson Space Center
ARC:
Satellite: STS-58
Catalog number: 00058
Epoch time: 94024.67747791 = (24-JAN-94 16:15:34.09 UTC)
Element set: 005
Inclination: 39.0114 deg
RA of node: 124.6663 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
Eccentricity: .0007676 Prelaunch Element set JSC-005
Arg of perigee: 272.4217 deg Launch: 24-JAN-94 14:53 UTC
Mean anomaly: 87.5676 deg
Mean motion: 15.96123499 rev/day Gil Carman, WA5NOM
Decay rate: 1.19475e-03 rev/day*2 NASA Johnson Space Center
Epoch rev: 2
Checksum: 329
[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank Frank Bauer (KA3HDO) for this
bulletin item.]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-008.04
AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULES
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 008.04 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JANUARY 8, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-008.04
G3RUH Provides AO-13 "Provisional" Transponder Operating Schedules For '94
The AO-13 Ground Command Station of G3RUH has provided the "best guess"
transponder schedules for the first half of '94. Please take the following
schedules and paste them in a prominent place in your station.
AO-13 Provisional Mode Schedules 1994
-------------------------------------
L QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Jan 31-Apr 04
Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 90 |
Mode-BS : MA 90 to MA 120 |
Mode-S : MA 120 to MA 145 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-S : MA 145 to MA 150 |<- S beacon only
Mode-BS : MA 150 to MA 180 | Blon/Blat 180/0
Mode-B : MA 180 to MA 256 |
Omnis : MA 230 to MA 30 | Move to attitude 240/0, Apr 04
L QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Apr 04-Jul 11
Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 160 | OFF
Mode-B : MA 160 to MA 220 |
Mode-S : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-BS : MA 230 to MA 250 | Blon/Blat 240/0
Mode-B : MA 250 to MA 256 |
Omnis : MA 250 to MA 160 | Move to attitude 180/0, Jul 11
G3RUH also has provided a table to indicate what the Bahn longititude and
latitude for AO-13 will be in the upcoming year. Again, this information
should be considered as the "best guess" and placed in a prominent place
in your ham shack.
AO-13 Provisional Attitude Schedule 1994-5
==========================================
Date [Mon] Blon Blat SA to SA Weeks Notes
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1994 Jan 31 180 0 -36 35 9
1994 Apr 04 240 0 -2 29 14
1994 Jul 11 180 0 36 -33 9
1994 Sep 12 230 0 0 -26 14 < Up to 132 minute eclipses
1994 Dec 19 180 0 -34 33 9 MA 96-107 Oct 22 - Nov 07
1995 Feb 20 230 0 12 21 14
1995 May 29 180 0 30 -31 8
1995 Jul 24 230 0 -10 -22 15 < Up to 132 minute eclipses
1995 Nov 06 180 0 -30 34 8 MA 96-103 Sep 05 - Sep 21
1996 Jan 01 230 0 9 -- --
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Note: SA stands for "Sun Angle"
Unfortunately, because AO-13's perigee height has decreased from 1500 KM to
420 KM, G3RUH is unsure about whether AO-13 will still be in orbit by the
end of '95 and into early '96. But if AO-13 has not re-entered into the
earth's atmosphere, the above Bahn longitiude and latitude values will be
the planned values.
[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank G3RUH for this bulletin
item. G3RUH can be reached at G3RUH @GB7DDX.#22.GBR.EU]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-008.05
WEEKLY OSCAR STATUS REPORTS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 008.05 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JANUARY 8, 1993
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-008.05
Weekly OSCAR Status Reports: 08-JAN-94
AO-13: Current Transponder Operating Schedule:
L QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1993 Dec 27-Jan 31
Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 180 | OFF
Mode-B : MA 180 to MA 220 |
Mode-S : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-BS : MA 230 to MA 250 | Blon/Blat 240/-5
Mode-B : MA 250 to MA 256 | OFF
Omnis : MA 250 to MA 150 | Move to attitude 180/0, 31-Jan-94
Poor Sun angle and battery testing need maximum OFF time.
[G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR]
FO-20: The following is the current FO-20 operating schedule:
From January '94 thru February '94, the analog mode and the
digital mode will be on alternately for a week at a time.
ANALOG MODE:
12-JAN-94 7:30 -TO- 19-JAN-94 7:50 UTC
26-JAN-94 8:20 -TO- 02-FEB-94 6:50 UTC
09-FEB-94 7:15 -TO- 16-FEB-94 7:40 UTC
DIGITAL MODE: Unless otherwise noted above. [JJ1WTK]
AO-16: Operating normally. [WH6I]
LO-19: Operating normally. [WH6I]
KO-23: Up and running. Busy as usual. [WH6I]
The AMSAT NEWS Service (ANS) is looking for volunteers to contribute weekly
OSCAR status reports. If you have a favorite OSCAR which you work on a
regular basis and would like to contribute to this bulletin, please send
your observations to WD0HHU at his CompuServe address of 70524,2272, on
INTERNET at wd0hhu@amsat.org, or to his local packet BBS in the Denver, CO
area, WD0HHU @ W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM. Also, if you find that the current
set of orbital elements are not generating the correct AOS/LOS times at
your QTH, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. The information you
provide will be of value to all OSCAR enthusiasts.
/EX
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Date: 10 Jan 94 03:04:32 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Display Phone for Packet
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I recently got a Northern Telcon "Display Phone" that I am trying to
hook up to a PK-88. The phone is basically a smart phone with a dumb
terminal attached, there real cute and have a small footprint. Now for
the problem: the terminal does not recognize that it is attached to an
RS232 device. It seems to want to detect the device and switch itself.
I can access a screen that tells me the serial port is off line, but it
does not allow a manual toggle like other set up features do.
Northern-Telcon referred me to a tech who did not even understand that
the serial port is hardware, not software, he did say he could change
cards if there blown. :-)
I have the appropriate signals on pins 1-8 and 20, and the PK-88 works
just fine with my HP-95LX as the terminal, but I would really like to
get the display phone on line. Any one out there have any ideas, or
know someone at Northern Telcon who could help?
Thanks and 73.
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff Internet: WAKIRSAN@ananov.remnet.ab.com
Rockwell International Ham: KD6MCI
(714) 762-2872
Alternate Internet: william_a._kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com
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Who are you? * I am number 2. * Who is number 1? * You are number 6.
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Date: 10 Jan 1994 03:27:17 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!agate!bohm.eecs.berkeley.edu!peter@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Morse Code
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Sorry for the dumb question...but does anyone have a copy of
Morse code in ASCII they could e-mail me or tell me how to
ftp or finger so I can learn it?
Thanks MUCHO.
--
Bill Peter |peter@langmuir.eecs.berkeley.edu
Dept. of Nuclear Physics, Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, ISRAEL
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Date: 10 Jan 1994 02:40:10 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!mix-cs!popovich@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Phonecalls from 20,000 feet?!...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
> Use the phone in the plane. It is not only against most airline rules to
> use your own radio equipment on a commercial aircraft, it is unsafe.
>
> There is no safe method for you to insure that your equipment is not
> interfering with the aircraft's communication and navigation equipment.
>
> That's why, essentially, it is not allowed.
This is probably all the response that's necessary, however, it is
just barely possible that the original inquirer may be a pilot, or
somebody else who's planning to fly up there in a small private plane,
rather than on an airliner. These generally don't have Airfones,
although the use of cellular phones from one is still illegal because
they activate too many different cells on the ground. In this case,
it's the pilot's decision as to what radios may be used in flight, and
it might be possible for the original inquirer to check for RFI
himself, or to ask the pilot about doing so. If no RFI is observed
(and you're DAMN sure there isn't any, because it's your skin on the
line), or if the calls are made while flying VFR by pilotage, where no
other radios may be needed at the time, then the question becomes
reasonable. Not every flight needs radio navigation, or even radio
communication. I don't know what such a person would do, unless they
knew about a particular station in the area that they were flying over
that had a phone patch available, and had arranged to use it. Does
anybody have any ideas for this unlikely case?
-Steve
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 94 11:32:24
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: RAMSEY KITS NOT TOO G
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com (John E. Taylor III) writes:
> I built one of the Ramsey 40-m QRP transmitters--really simple, about half
> a dozen components. When it didn't work, I figured I'd done something
> wrong, and would trouble-shoot it when I got the chance. Haven't yet
> gotten the chance, but it sounds like the problem may not have been me.
> This discussion thread may provide me incentive to see just what was wrong
> (oscillator works, but not the final), but also to homebrew rather than
> buying another Ramsey kit.
YES! That's a better idea. Get one of Doug de Maw's QRP books and start
collecting the parts. I didn't mention in my previous post about my
non-working Ramsay 40m receiver that I had previously built three
projects from the QRP notebook (1st edition) and they all worked great
-- not to mention provided a ton of satisfaction.
The projects were, the Poor Man's QRP transmitter for 40m, the QRP
antenna tuner and the 12v, 1 amp power supply -- All working GREAT, with
great design and really cool surplus enclosures that I built myself. The
transmitter is housed in a Planters peanut can -- what better for a peanut
whistle? The power supply sits in the gutted housing of a dead auto
battery charger -- with the labels changed to protect the ignorant, of
course!
steven.rosenberg@support.com
KC6FYL
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 20:21:15 +0000
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!demon!g8sjp.demon.co.uk!ip@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Repeater database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <758152694snx@llondel.demon.co.uk> dave@llondel.demon.co.uk writes:
>There have been several cases of remote-site amateur gear being
>stolen/vandalised in the UK. The first recorded case was the West London
>repeater some time ago, which vanished without trace until (several years
>later) they drained the water tower on which the repeater had been sited....
>it was inside. A few packet nodes have been vandalised in the last year or
>so, and the Guildford voice repeater was stolen last month.
>
Dave,
I'd be interested in knowing which repreater this actually refers to, since
the West London repeaters have always been sited on a hospital!
Maybe the folklore is a bit disturbed. 'WL WAS stolen, and was, in fact, dug
up in some Berkshire (?) woodland several years afterwards.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Iain Philipps - InterNet StormTrooper
Telephone: +44 494 432144
EMail: ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk
On VHF: G8SJP
On HF: G0RDI
On Contests: G(W)0RDI/P [JO01KJ and IO82JJ]
On Vacation: C30DLA
At Work: N2TLY
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Date: 9 Jan 1994 16:08:10 -0800
From: nntp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Repeater database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Well I find myself sympathetic to both sides, so here is my $0.02,
though this is getting off the subject of the database per se.
1) If repeater owners don't reveal link frequencies, then they must be
prepared to suffer occasional interference. About the best a good ham
*can* do is listen for a while (on an frequency they might want to use
simplex), and having heard little, try it out, and see who (or if one)
complains.
2) If repeater owners do reveal link frequencies, then they will
probably suffer from deliberate interference from the *bad* hams, so
take your pick.
3) I agree with Bob W. that location of a repeater is secondary to
coverage information. Describing coverage succinctly is often a
difficult thing to do. This is especially true in areas like N. CA.
where you have a lot of mixed valley and mountain terrain. Some
repeaters I know have very oddly shaped coverage patterns. Location,
even accurate location, is therefore of limited help in determining
coverage in many locations.
4) Any amount of information in a query-able database is better than
nothing.
--
matthew rapaport Philosopher/Programmer at large KD6KVH
CIS: 70271,255 Internet: mjr@crl.com
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Date: 9 Jan 1994 22:49:58 -0500
From: bounce-back@uunet.uu.net
Subject: RFD: sci.geo.satnav
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION: SCI.GEO.SATNAV
Title: SCI.GEO.SATNAV
This will be an unmoderated newsgroup.
SCI.GEO.SATNAV was chosen because the focus of this group is
on navigation. The SCI.SPACE hierarchy deals with various
aspects of space exploration and use, but this newsgroup
deals mostly with terrestrial applications. The fact that
the space segment is in space is almost incidental to the
focus of the newsgroup.
Charter: SCI.GEO.SATNAV will allow a centralized location
for discussion of global navigation satellite systems
(GNSS). The charter specifically includes the US Global
Positioning System (GPS) and Russian GLONASS, but is also
open to discussion of other existing and future satellite
positioning systems.
Some topics that fall under this newsgroup charter are:
* Technical aspects of GNSS operation.
* User experiences in the use of GNSS.
* Information regarding GNSS products.
* Discussion of GNSS policy (such as GPS
selective availability).
* Extensions to basic GNSS technology, such as
differential GPS and pseudolites.
* Navigational uses of satellite systems whose primary
purpose is not navigation, such as a communication
satellite net. (IRIDIUM, etc.)
Examples of topics that would not fall under the group
charter are:
* Other satellite systems such as communications and
intelligence gathering, except for navigational uses of
such systems.
* Discussion of space policy in general.
* Discussion of areas that may use GNSS, such as
surveying, sailing, or aeronautics, except as they
directly relate to use of GNSS.
GPS, in particular, has turned out to be a technology with a
great deal of synergism with many fields. GPS is used, not
only for military positioning which was the original
purpose, but in applications as diverse as entomology and
film making. A major intent of this newsgroup is to share
the uses to which GNSS technology is being put, thus
inspiring even more innovative uses.
While part of the SCI.GEO hierarchy, this newsgroup does not
exclude non-terrestrial uses of satellite navigation. For example, use
of GPS to determine space vehicle position is within the charter.
This group is also intended to function as a resource for
newcomers, who can post their questions and receive help
from others who have passed that way before.
Rationale: There is no single newsgroup where information
on GPS and other satellite navigation systems can be found.
Questions are often posted in newsgroups such as
sci.electronics, rec.aviation, and sci.aeronautics. To
address this lack, the mailing list RGPS DigestS was started
about a year ago, and now has over 400 subscribers.
Recently we attempted to convert GPS Digest from a moderated
weekly newsletter to an unmoderated reflector. Submissions,
which had been running at 2-3 per week, immediately picked
up to 15 the first day. Our resources were overloaded, and
the Digest is back to the original format. Many readers
indicated the real-time response was helpful and suggested
the formation of a newsgroup.
The RFD and CFV will be posted to the GPS Digest mailing
list as well as Usenet newsgroups. Only those readers with
access to Usenet should cast votes (for or against)
formation of the newsgroup.
--
Andy Arkusinski arkusinski_andy@si.com
Ken Jongsma jongsma_ken@si.com
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 19:25:21 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplextra!hpfcso!hplvec!tcline@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Superpressure balloon info?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
> In rec.radio.amateur.misc, norton@joker.optics.rochester.edu (Scott Norton) writes:
>
> Does anyone have any info on the superpressure balloon that was launched
> from Utah? There was a post about it a week ago and it was to have been
> launched today.
>
> Thanx!
> PS. Could someone e-mail me info as well as posting it?
>
> Scott Norton
> norton@joker.optics.rochester.edu
> N2WQU
I am a member of the Edge of Space Sciences balloon group in Denver, CO.
Bill Brown WB8ELK and the payload was in Denver on Tuesday, Jan-4-94.
He said the launch was scheduled for 8:00 am MST on Thursday, Jan-6-84
(delayed from the 10:00 am MST on Jan-5-94 mentioned in the article).
Today is Friday. I haven't heard any more. I would not be surprised if
the launch has been delayed again due to equipment or weather.
73
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ted_cline@hpisla.lvld.hp.com Fort Collins, CO 80526-1044
Day: (303) 679-2352 (303) 493-1136
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 19:02:54 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!perot.mtsu.edu!raider!theporch!jackatak!root@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Vanity Callsign Notice of Propsed Rulemaking (PR93-305)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
gdm@eieio.ualr.edu (G. Douglas Mauldin) writes:
[.... much other "stuff" deleted...]
> and my trying to get, say, K5EE, the shortest (in CW)
> callsign in the United States.
Pardon the flame-thrower.... but seems to me, Doug, EXTRA class
callsign and all that, that you ought to know ur cw well enuf to know
"N" is shorter than "K", and so is "A"... so AE5E and NE5E and N5EE
are *ALL* shorter than K5EE or the other permutations...
and we thought Extra Class was a safe haven from all that... ;^)
Jack, W4PPT/Mobile (75M SSB 2-letter WAS #1657 -- all from the mobile! ;^)
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