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Info-Hams Digest Sat, 8 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 14
Today's Topics:
Cordless phone freqs?
Daily Summary of Solar & Geophysical Activity for 05 January
Got my expiration date - thanx!
Kits and quality
Need U.K. Admin Address
Opening ICOM-R1
Phonecalls from 20,000 fe
Ramsey kits not too good -- what about Down East Microwave?
Theft/vandalism at radio sites (was Re: Repeater database?
TOYOTAS AND HAM RIGS
Vanity Callsign Notice of Propsed Rulemaking (PR93-305)
When will my license expire?
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:42:16 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!hawk!hawk@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Cordless phone freqs?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2gjt2c$5uj@mailhost.interaccess.com> msf@interaccess.com (MSF) writes:
>
>Could someone send me a list of the 10 most common base
>frequencies, or an ftp site for these freqs?
>
>Thanks
>
46610 46630 46710 46730 46770 46810 46830 46870 46930 46970
regards,
George Hawkins KI5X
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 23:50:34 MST
From: destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar & Geophysical Activity for 05 January
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
05 JANUARY, 1994
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
(Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 05 JANUARY, 1994
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!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 005, 01/05/94
10.7 FLUX=136.9 90-AVG=101 SSN=154 BKI=0111 1002 BAI=002
BGND-XRAY=B4.9 FLU1=6.5E+05 FLU10=1.1E+04 PKI=1112 2212 PAI=005
BOU-DEV=000,006,005,007,005,004,004,018 DEV-AVG=006 NT SWF=02:003
XRAY-MAX= M1.0 @ 0704UT XRAY-MIN= B3.5 @ 0242UT XRAY-AVG= C1.0
NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 2350UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2230UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.0%
PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2310UT PCA-MIN= -0.7DB @ 0005UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55350NT @ 2323UT BOUTF-MIN=55327NT @ 1859UT BOUTF-AVG=55343NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+078,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+131NT@ 2053UT GOES6-MIN=N:-057NT@ 0901UT G6-AVG=+100,+024,-027
FLUXFCST=STD:130,130,125;SESC:130,130,125 BAI/PAI-FCST=005,010,010/008,010,015
KFCST=1112 3111 1112 3111 27DAY-AP=006,007 27DAY-KP=2212 2212 2223 3221
WARNINGS=*MAJFLR;*SWF
ALERTS=**MINFLR:M1.0/1N@0704,S13W23(7647);**SWEEP:II=2@0710-0723UTC
!!END-DATA!!
NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 04 JAN 94 was 67.1.
The Full Kp Indices for 04 JAN 94 are: 1+ 3o 2- 2o 2o 1+ 1o 0+
SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
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Solar activity was moderate. Region 7646 (S08W26) and
Region 7647 (S16W35) combined to produce an M1/1N long duration
flare at 05/0704Z. Solar observers detected a Type II radio
sweep during this flare. Region 7648 (N06E42) grew larger and
produced a C1/SN flare at 05/1545Z.
Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
low to moderate. Regions 7646 and 7648 are growing and becoming
more active.
The geomagnetic field has been at quiet levels for
the past 24 hours.
Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is
expected to be quiet to unsettled. The long duration M-class
flare may disturb the field beginning late on day two.
Event probabilities 06 jan-08 jan
Class M 50/50/50
Class X 05/05/05
Proton 05/05/05
PCAF Green
Geomagnetic activity probabilities 06 jan-08 jan
A. Middle Latitudes
Active 10/15/15
Minor Storm 05/05/05
Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01
B. High Latitudes
Active 10/15/15
Minor Storm 05/05/05
Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01
HF propagation conditions were generally near-normal over
all regions. High latitude paths saw periods of minor signal
degradation during the local night hours, with enhanced noise
levels also reported in conjunction with this activity.
Conditions are expected to remain stable on 06 and 07 January,
and become slightly degraded over high latitude paths on 08
January in response to the above-noted flare-related
disturbance. If it fails to arrive, near-normal conditions
will persist.
COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================
REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 05/2400Z JANUARY
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NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
7645 N12W22 083 0290 FSI 18 048 BETA-GAMMA
7646 S08W26 087 0610 EKI 12 045 BETA-GAMMA
7647 S16W35 096 0090 ESO 11 005 BETA
7648 N06E42 019 0290 DAO 09 016 BETA
7649 S12W14 075 PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 06 JANUARY TO 08 JANUARY
NMBR LAT LO
NONE
LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 05 JANUARY, 1994
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BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
0343 0344 0345 150
0558 0600 0601 830
0645 0704 0725 7647 S13W23 M1.0 1N 54 36 II
0743 0743 0746 7646 S09W15 SF 2300
0823 0828 0838 7645 N17W08 C2.8 SF 550
0858 0903 0909 7646 S11W21 C1.9 SF 260
1106 1106 1107 260
1321 1329 1332 7648 N04E49 C1.8 SF 300
1359 1407 1420 7645 N16W11 C1.9 SF 270 38
1656 1657 1702 7648 N02E47 SF 110
1754 1801 1803 7646 S10W24 C2.8 1N 140
2155 2156 2159 430
POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 05 JANUARY, 1994
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BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
05/0710 0723 S13W23 RSP M1.0 40 2
POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 05 JANUARY, 1994
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ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS
SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
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Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
04 Jan: 0021 0025 0029 B7.5
0059 0119 0150 C1.2 SF 7649 S10E14
0302 0310 0316 C2.4 SF 7645 N14E08
0442 0448 0451 C1.0
0448 0450 0453 SF 7645 N15E09
0629 0639 0655 C1.0 SF 7648 N06E68
0630 0631 0649 SF 7645 N13W05
0633 0633 0643 SF 7648 N06E65
0644 0646 0711 SF 7648 N06E65
0715 0752 0852 SF 7648 N06E65
0743 0747 0816 SF 7645 N12W05
0927 0931 0946 SF 7648 N07E65
1258 1305 1341 SF 7648 N03E63
1531 1533 1540 SF 7648 N06E62
1617 1619 1625 SF 7648 N03E61
1923 1924 1935 SF 7645 N15W00
1957 2000 2005 B6.0
2057 2058 2102 SF 7645 N14E02
2203 2212 2228 B6.5
REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
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C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
Region 7645: 1 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 006 (31.6)
Region 7648: 1 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 008 (42.1)
Region 7649: 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 ( 5.3)
Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 004 (21.1)
Total Events: 019 optical and x-ray.
EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
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Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
04 Jan: 0021 0025 0029 B7.5 III
0059 0119 0150 C1.2 SF 7649 S10E14 III
0302 0310 0316 C2.4 SF 7645 N14E08 III
0442 0448 0451 C1.0 III
0629 0639 0655 C1.0 SF 7648 N06E68 III
0715 0752 0852 SF 7648 N06E65 III
1923 1924 1935 SF 7645 N15W00 III
NOTES:
All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
III = Type III Sweep
IV = Type IV Sweep
V = Type V Sweep
Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
Loop = Loop Prominence System,
Spray = Limb Spray,
Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
** End of Daily Report **
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 17:39:54 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!dgf@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Got my expiration date - thanx!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
It turns out this kind of data is available on the internet, and I have
had several kind replies extracting the data I need (I'm alive until
April, 1997 it turns out).
Anyway, thanx to the helpful people replying and I have learned something
new!
73 Dave WB0GAZ
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 14:59:52 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Kits and quality
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <9401070753.ZM8853@SALCIUS2> scottm@SALCIUS2.csg.mot.com (Scott F. Migaldi) writes:
>>People, you get what you pay for. As a very good friend of mine once
>>said; "Pay shit. Get shit."
>
>This attitude amazes me! I can only wonder when the people who have
>attitudes like this will have their jobs move to Osaka! If a customer pays
>money they should get the best that they are paying for. I am amazed at
>what type of crap Americans will put up with from a manufacturer. I deal in
>the international markets and let me tell you my customers demand the very
>best and will not except an excuse when something does not work properly.
When there's a 10 to 1 price range, and the customer is paying the bottom
price, they'd better expect bottom performance. If they expect the very
best, then they'd better expect to pay the premium that requires. I think
that's all the poster is saying. It's been my experience that that's a truism,
even with Motorola. You people make some very nice, very expensive radios,
and you also make some cheap junk.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 23:45:35 GMT
From: metro!basser.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!eff!news.umbc.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!cix.@@munnari.oz.au
Subject: Need U.K. Admin Address
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The UK Licensing is now handled by an independent company on behlaf of
the Radiocommunications authority.
My License tells me to notify Changes of Address to:
The Radio Licensing Centre
SSL
PO BOX 884
Bristol BS99 5LF
alternatively why not ask the RSGB ( equvlt to ARRL )at
Lambda House
Cranbourne Road
Potters Bar
Herts, EN6 3JE
Telephone: 0707 59015
Fax: 0707 45105
Telex: 9312130923 Ansback RSG
John Newgas G7LTQ in UK / N2UYI in USA
Packet Address G7LTQ@GB7XDD.#32.GBR.EU
Internet Address jnewgas@cix,compulink.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 01:58:18 GMT
From: metro!basser.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.@munnari.oz.au
Subject: Opening ICOM-R1
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Anyone know how to take bottom bqattery cover off an R1. Mine is
"inert" so I suspect that the Nicad battery has expired. I removed
all visible screws, and the case opens at the top, but the botton
won't let go. Any ideas? There is a latch at the bottom that doesn't
seem to do anything...
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 00:09:14 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!basser.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!springsboard!alex.lane@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Phonecalls from 20,000 fe
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Chris Magnuson writes:
-> .... it is possible to make phone calls from way up high by radio
-> (check on the kids, etc.). Is this possible to do via a portable
-> radio?
A number of 2-meter repeaters offer users a phone patch that allows you
to make phone calls through the repeater. Long-distance calls are
generally not permitted, although some repeaters will let you dial an
800 number, which'll let you get to a long-distance company.
Of course, this pre-supposes you're a licensed ham with a 2-meter rig.
Cheers...
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The SpringsBoard BBS | "You *can* get here from there."
Pagosa Springs, Colorado |
Alex Lane (303) 264-2339 |
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Date: 8 Jan 94 14:54:08 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Ramsey kits not too good -- what about Down East Microwave?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Jan7.140535.5582@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lkollar@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Larry Kollar) writes:
>
>OK, everybody and his dog has run down Ramsey kits. I also heard some
>unfavorable comments about Hamtronics and their downconverter kits. What
>about Down East Microwave? They have downconverters in kit form -- has
>anyone tried tackling one of those?
I've built their 902 MHz transverter, and their 2304 downconverter. They
work, but they aren't Heathkits. The LOs are built dead bug style, and
the docs aren't very clear at all. I needed the photos in the QST article
to figure out parts placement for the transverter. But they did work first
time, and no special test equipment was required for tuneup. Of course
the transverter is milliwatt power level, and there isn't enough selectivity
in the receive front end, but a helical filtered preamp can fix the latter
problem, and they sell a power brick that'll fix the low power problem. The
2304 downconverter also needs a preamp. I'd give them an Ok, but note that
delivery on the transverter was not prompt. I ordered one at Dayton, and
didn't get it until the next Dayton (after I danced on their heads a bit).
Their loop yagis are good, but one of the 4 902 MHz ones I've assembled was
missing a loop. I made my own out of some stock I had on hand rather than
fighting with them to get the missing part.
A couple of notes on Ramsey and Hamtronics. Ramsey has greatly improved
their 2 meter and 70 cm transceivers from the original models, but they
aren't bargains. Converting commercial surplus will still give you a better
radio for less money. Hamtronics has a line of helical filtered preamps
that are *excellent* for repeater use. Buy assembled and tuned though
because they're nontrival to get to work right without a good SINADer.
On the other hand, their converters suck bigtime. It's nearly impossible
to get the LO to both be clean and to start reliably. And after you do,
the noise figure is poor. Their transmitting converters are better, but
not great. Their receivers and transmitters used to be *horrible* with
spurs and drift problems. I hear the new models are better, but you still
better have a spectrum analyzer at hand when you do the tuneup. I'd say
that anything that requires an oscillator should be avoided since Hamtronics
doesn't seem to know how to design good ones.
I'd say that if you need a reliable high performance preamp, converter,
or transverter, you're best off buying from ARR or SSB Electronics. They're
expensive, but they work really well. The ARR preamps have *no* protection,
so you'll lose one ocasionally, but the performance is superb for a $70 unit.
And SSB Electronics transverters can't be beat. (At $750 a pop they'd *better*
be good.)
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: 8 Jan 1994 00:12:02 GMT
From: koriel!newscast.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!sunspot!myers@ames.arpa
Subject: Theft/vandalism at radio sites (was Re: Repeater database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article 2gksi7INNb6r@network.ucsd.edu, brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>Some years ago, one of our repeaters stopped working. When we got up on
>the the mountain, we found out why:
>
>Someone had torched the door off the building, stolen all the Motorola
>and GE repeaters out of the building (demonstrating good taste, they
>left the RCA repeaters alone). On their way out, just for good
>measure, they cut the guy wires on the tower. When the storm hit a few
>days later, 70 feet of H-frame tower blew over the side of the mountain
>to the desert floor below, taking our antennas and a good portion of
>our coax with it. The solar panels were smashed beyond repair.
>
>Want to know where our repeaters are now? NOYGDB!
> - Brian
Certainly this can be a problem, but it isn't necessarily limited to
amateur repeaters. A buddy of mine owns several mountain-top sites and
manages several more in Southern Cal. He's got a list of tales of mayhem
and larceny that has been performed on his sites, often by other commercial
radio operators, sometimes even by tenants in his site. A few weeks ago
we drove up to up one site 'cause the alarm company called to say the
alarm hadn't been set all day. When we got there we discovered that someone
had attempted to force their way into one of his buildings. Without
revealing too much, I'll say that it is fairly certain it was one of the
tenants in the other building in his compound.
---
* Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD 466 | Views expressed here are *
* (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
* Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
* This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 15:30:04 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: TOYOTAS AND HAM RIGS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2gk163$ku@news.acns.nwu.edu> lapin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Lapin) writes:
>In article <9401071154.AA11626@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>,
>Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV> wrote:
>>Number 1 on their list of requirements for installation of rigs in Toyotas,
>>in order for the warrantee to continue is:
>> "The rig must be FCC Type Approved."
>>
>>WHERE DO I BUY FCC TYPE APPROVED HAM GEAR ????????
>>
>>I thought that ham gear was specifically NOT type approved. But then again I
>>don't intend to buy a Toyota, so it's all academic.
>
>All commercial ham gear must be FCC type approved (that's a rule that was
>changed from when I started in ham radio).
NO, NO, NO. Type approval is very strict, and no ham gear must be
type approved. External power amplifiers below 144 MHz must be type
*accepted*, and commercial ham gear must be type *certified*, that's
just a manufacturer's affidavit, there may also be a Part 15 certification
required if there's a microprocessor on board, but no ham gear has to pass
type approval. As far as I know, only certain broadcast equipment must meet
type approval regulations. It's very expensive and time consuming.
So Toyota is saying that only broadcast transmitters are permitted.
Heh, I'd like to see our 100 kW Harris fit in a Camry. :-)
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: 7 Jan 94 16:42:01 -0600
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!engr.uark.edu!news.ualr.edu!eieio.ualr.edu!gdm@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Vanity Callsign Notice of Propsed Rulemaking (PR93-305)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
[said NPRM included herein by reference]
A few things perhaps worth noting:
1. They are proposing to charge you $7.00 per year for the rest of your
life for their having issued you a specific callsign. I'd feel a lot better
about a one-time charge, even at my age.
2. If your list of ten specific callsigns is exhausted by the time
your application makes it through the mill, your existing callsign becomes
the eleventh choice and you will be charged $7.00 per year for the rest of
your life for the privilege of continuing to use your old callsign.
3. Opinion: what does "vanity" have to do with requesting a specific
callsign? Commercial broadcasters do it all the time. These specific ham
callsigns will still have to follow the present formats for the various
license classes, unlike the completely free form of so-called "vanity" car
tags. I suspect the "vanity car tag" expression was originated by some
media type. I don't see the parallel between Lawrence Welk requesting
"A1ANA2" for his car and my trying to get, say, K5EE, the shortest (in CW)
callsign in the United States.
When I finally became an old-enough timer (at 27) to request a specific
callsign all those years ago, I tried to get K5DM or K5GM or some others
I can't remember, but the closest they could get was K5DH. If they could
set up this new system to be less risky and less costly, I might try again,
otherwise "thanks but no, thanks."
73,
Doug K5DH
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 16:57:15 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!dgf@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: When will my license expire?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have one of those 10 year licenses, and I can't find the orig., and
I have the feeling that it will expire before too long. How can I find
my expiration date? I realize this sounds like an obvious question, but
after 23 years in ham radio I guess I'm getting senile!
73 Dave WB0GAZ dgf@netcom.com
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