Date: Sat, 8 Jan 94 00:08:56 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #12 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sat, 8 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: "vanity" calls Good Service Ham club at a University Help finding: BPQAX25.EXE How does it work? Limit on amount of homebrew, was ...Re: TOYOTAS AND HAM RIGS ORBS$007.2L.AMSAT This Week in Amateur Radio Edition #41 This Week on Spectrum 01/08/94 TOYOTAS AND HAM RADIO What Kind of Antenna Is This? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Jan 94 01:56:11 GMT From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu Subject: "vanity" calls To: info-hams@ucsd.edu gdm@eieio.ualr.edu (G. Douglas Mauldin) says: >>2. If your list of ten specific callsigns is exhausted by the time >>your application makes it through the mill, your existing callsign becomes >>the eleventh choice and you will be charged $7.00 per year for the rest of >>your life for the privilege of continuing to use your old callsign. Are you sure about this? I didn't read it that way at all. >>and my trying to get, say, K5EE, the shortest (in CW) callsign in the >>United States. To be picky, N5EE, NE5E and AE5E are even shorter. W5EE and WE5E are the same length as your example. And K5EE is alive and well and active on CW. The only way you could get his call is if he wants to give it up, and if he wants to give it up, you might wonder why. I just had 2000 QSL cards printed, I don't think I want to change my call just yet... Derek "cheap cheap" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392) oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jan 94 14:01:28 GMT From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Good Service To: info-hams@ucsd.edu After a bad experience with another company I thought I would relate a good experience I recently purchased and old Yaesu 301S QRP rig. I really am starting to appreciate it. .The case is in good shape but some screws are missing and some special fasteners on the top part of the case. Just for the heck of it I thought I would call the toll free number and see If I could get replacements. I was put through from the operator to parts immediately. I explained to the gentleman what I was looking for. He made sure he understood my request, took my name, address and phone number and said he would reference them in the computer and send them right out in the mail and enclose the bill... no charge on pre-payment.. .sounded good, but I got worried about the cost.. didn't want to spend more than I paid for the radio. The gentleman said, the screws are about 5-10C each and the other parts not much more.. I decided to splurge. I really enjoyed the way I was treated and sure hope I get the parts. Have a good weekend. 73 Jeff, Ac4HF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 03:26:23 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!sknapp@ames.arpa Subject: Ham club at a University To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2gget3$q5b@tuegate.tue.nl> philip@stack.urc.tue.nl (Philip Komen) writes: >Shawn C. Masters (smasters@fame) wrote: > >> I've started to put together an amateur radio club here at >> George Mason University. I was wondering if anyone out there had any >> words of wisdom/expereince in starting such clubs. Please e-mail me to >> keep the bandwidth usage down. > >Just go on! I am a member of a club station here on the university, in a >matter of fact i am the vice-president of the club. It's very nice to see >people that were never interested in the radio hobby, just having fun with >packet or so. My advice? Keep the club intresting!!! Our club got in a rut. We appointed someone (Brant, take a bow) to find a special activity for each month we have a meeting. We have had many fine presentations, and our membership is becoming more intrested. Oh, and a good constitution never hurts. :) ________________________________________________________________________ Steven M. Knapp Computer Engineering Senior sknapp@iastate.edu Vice President Cyclone Amateur Radio Club Iowa State University; Ames, IA; USA Durham Center Operations Staff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 16:12:03 GMT From: EU.net!sunic!kth.se!news.kth.se!pme@uunet.uu.net Subject: Help finding: BPQAX25.EXE To: info-hams@ucsd.edu And what should that program do ? You are not looking for bpq packet switch ? /Peter Enderborg, SM0OHI ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 94 00:49:29 GMT From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!othello.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu Subject: How does it work? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu These units were, if they are the ones I am thinking of, pioneered in the tire industry and by the British police. The patents are held by Hugh's and they are a litle more complicated than has been so far indicated. They are also alterable via the readers. The British police used them to keep track of the football fans. They were given out as fan ID cards. The police at the games could use some sort of hand held reader to mark fighting fans without telling them. The next time the fans went to a game the detectors at the gate would notify the police that a trouble maker was entering and give them his name. I this in the journal "Science" from around June 1990. I'm not at all sure this is the right date. The tire industry used them to allow big trucking firms to keep a data base of tire histories. This way they would be able to tell how many times the tires had been retreaded, how many miles/months ago it had been last serviced, etc. While the readers are pretty expensive, I've heard that the actual IC's are around US$.05-.10 In fact when I received my new computer a couple months ago there was the telltale sticker on one of the plastic baggiesthat came in one of the boxes. So it looks like Gateway 2000 uses the same technology to track their distribution. If anybody missed the first part of the thread the initial post is included below Cheers es 73 Dan Richard Furuta (furuta@cs.tamu.edu) wrote: : Well, maybe it's relevant to radio and maybe not, but I'm sure that : someone here can explain this to me! : I'm sure that many of you are familiar with the anti-theft stickers : that have appeared especially on tapes and CDs. About an inch square, : the adhesive-backed underside contains a set of concentric traces : along the edge surrounded by a different colored border that blobs : over one of the corners into the center. Disabling the device seems : to involve sticking a patch of some sort on top of it. : So what's the mechanism and how does it work? : --Rick : KE3IV : furuta@cs.tamu.edu -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@WA6RDH.#nocal.ca.usa * * Internet: DDTODD@ucdavis.edu * * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 * * Davis CA 95616 * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * I do not speak for the University of California.... * * and it sure as hell doesn't speak for me!! * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 94 00:33:46 GMT From: walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Limit on amount of homebrew, was ...Re: TOYOTAS AND HAM RIGS To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2gk163$ku@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Gregory Lapin <lapin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >In article <9401071154.AA11626@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>, >Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV> wrote: >>WHERE DO I BUY FCC TYPE APPROVED HAM GEAR ???????? >All commercial ham gear must be FCC type approved (that's a rule that was >changed from when I started in ham radio). > >If you look on any of your modern commercial gear you should see an FCC ID >number on the tag with the serial number. > >The only non-type approved equipment that can be used is homebrew, and then >only if you make one of a kind per year and hf+ (<144 MHz) external RF power >amplifiers, again only one of a kind per year. >Greg Lapin KD9AZ Please note, there is NO limitation on the amount of homebrew equipment that any ham can build. I don't know where Greg got this idea, but it is totally incorrect as stated above. The ONLY limitation on homebrew equipment I am aware of is in the construction of 10 (11) meter linear amps. Perhaps that is what Greg was thinking of? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jan 94 14:02:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$007.2L.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-007.N 2Line Orbital Elements 007.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX January 7, 1994 BID: $ORBS-007.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 94005.12150341 -.00000075 00000-0 10000-3 0 2390 2 14129 27.2067 348.0660 6021024 143.8064 278.2612 2.05878444 79423 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 94005.59076342 .00000422 00000-0 79591-4 0 6451 2 14781 97.7949 27.8697 0013065 69.6655 290.5953 14.69115948526430 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87054A 93362.24286562 .00000047 00000-0 35308-4 0 8413 2 18129 82.9283 95.2053 0012703 133.8292 226.3913 13.72328759326464 AO-13 1 19216U 88051B 94004.70116240 -.00000337 00000-0 10000-4 0 8537 2 19216 57.8718 275.2489 7205805 332.1178 3.3712 2.09722778 42585 FO-20 1 20480U 90013C 93364.10373196 -.00000018 00000-0 32924-4 0 6409 2 20480 99.0174 183.0203 0541189 2.6742 357.7056 12.83223163182445 AO-21 1 21087U 91006A 94002.21124407 .00000094 00000-0 82657-4 0 4024 2 21087 82.9442 265.5312 0034603 184.9174 175.1647 13.74530946146782 RS-12/13 1 21089U 91007A 94003.81201797 .00000013 00000-0 -16601-5 0 6449 2 21089 82.9224 133.3515 0028470 204.2513 155.7306 13.74032105146079 ARSENE 1 22654U 93031B 93321.93138545 -.00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 2108 2 22654 1.4185 113.8817 2935300 161.0091 211.2000 1.42195961 2757 UO-14 1 20437U 90005B 94005.38579769 .00000070 00000-0 44144-4 0 9440 2 20437 98.6022 92.3141 0010623 314.0719 45.9578 14.29814607206325 AO-16 1 20439U 90005D 94005.72754607 .00000051 00000-0 36929-4 0 7456 2 20439 98.6104 93.7213 0011015 313.5668 46.4599 14.29870637206386 DO-17 1 20440U 90005E 94002.19917332 .00000053 00000-0 37608-4 0 7448 2 20440 98.6107 90.5019 0011449 322.9054 37.1337 14.30007759205895 WO-18 1 20441U 90 5 F 94005.74014108 .00000072 00000-0 35573-4 0 7295 2 20441 98.6102 94.0149 0011724 313.2067 46.8135 14.29985383206404 LO-19 1 20442U 90005G 94005.51918470 .00000071 00000-0 44573-4 0 7442 2 20442 98.6116 94.0172 0012086 313.0601 46.9565 14.30078732206388 UO-22 1 21575U 91050B 94005.74855109 .00000132 00000-0 59080-4 0 4450 2 21575 98.4531 83.4070 0008662 56.6893 303.5122 14.36879718129757 KO-23 1 22077U 92052B 94002.16351446 -.00000037 00000-0 10000-3 0 3406 2 22077 66.0861 267.5903 0007830 328.5974 31.4576 12.86282748 65437 AO-27 1 22825U 93061C 94002.41089026 .00000028 00000-0 29480-4 0 2421 2 22825 98.6729 79.7643 0008661 340.3461 19.7388 14.27598458 14037 IO-26 1 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94002.20370060 .00000075 00000-0 53970-4 0 2435 2 19851 82.5242 276.2482 0014430 338.9778 21.0787 13.84353419244722 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 93364.48539230 .00000044 00000-0 10000-3 0 9576 2 20305 82.5490 26.6237 0006048 3.1578 356.9573 13.04419292200902 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 94005.87923448 .00000024 00000-0 79036-5 0 7443 2 20670 82.5450 337.3863 0014678 242.2637 117.7035 13.84185748178162 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 94003.03844225 -.00000027 00000-0 10000-4 0 8621 2 20788 98.8453 28.3934 0015034 108.6050 249.2585 14.01339724170575 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 94005.74063050 .00000111 00000-0 87297-4 0 7431 2 20826 82.5267 275.2236 0013392 137.9258 222.2933 13.83569469165290 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 94005.83128273 .00000050 00000-0 10000-3 0 6519 2 21232 82.5467 284.3740 0011499 231.4753 128.5339 13.16458488129990 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 94004.08081272 .00000166 00000-0 93828-4 0 8642 2 21263 98.6370 35.3435 0013145 356.9160 3.1933 14.22352847137206 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 94005.68770103 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 6470 2 21655 82.5545 231.4938 0012197 243.1016 116.8860 13.16826637115074 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 94001.96917156 .00000034 00000-0 17490-4 0 2435 2 22782 82.5480 338.1541 0022340 335.8493 24.1619 13.82995595 17110 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 94005.22314691 .00012629 00000-0 16182-3 0 723 2 16609 51.6193 284.4311 0005853 164.6911 195.4261 15.59559673450621 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 94004.90469308 .00001033 00000-0 88413-4 0 4158 2 20580 28.4684 204.6894 0006313 180.1183 179.9404 14.90410640 5005 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 94004.88663637 .00005841 00000-0 13675-3 0 427 2 21225 28.4636 284.9027 0003711 171.8955 188.1707 15.39742393 31735 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 94004.24257924 .00002801 00000-0 26628-3 0 4467 2 21701 56.9823 95.9801 0005475 107.2007 252.9626 14.96383081126392 POSAT 1 22829U 93061G 94001.75322183 .00000049 00000-0 37763-4 0 2353 2 22829 98.6670 79.1269 0010186 328.1394 31.9170 14.27993596 13944 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 94 03:34:25 GMT From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio Edition #41 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Here is a summary of news items covered on Edition #41 of "This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered audio bulletin service, for the week ending 14-Jan: 1. FCC Releases Notice of Proposed Rule Making for "Vanity" Call Signs 2. ARRL Lists Landline Services Carrying Full Text of PR Docket 93-305 3. Commission Kills Club/Military Station Administration Program 4. AMSAT/WJ9F Announce Resumption of AO-16/Pacsat Experimenter's Days 5. League Opens Nominations for Brier Instructor/Teacher Awards 6. Packet Stations Reminded to Maintain BID Integrity of ARRL Bulletins 7. Taiwanese/Finnish Amateurs Activate Pratus Island, Team Includes OH2BH 8. "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago 9. Crew of 15th Main Expedition Scheduled for Launch to MIR Platform 10. "YL Spotlight" with Carli Drake, WB1BTJ 11. "EZSATS" with Dave Mullenix, N9LTD 12. OPDX/NODXA Present Third Annual DX Survey, Deadline is January 31st 13. "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR 14. Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS 15. "DX Window" with John Yodis, K2VV 16. Membership in "FISTS" Swells to Over 1000, Morse Lovers Invited 17. DX News and Special Event Stations with George Bowen, N2LQS 18. "Amateur Radio Newsline" from Los Angeles - Edition #852 19. "DXing the AM and FM Broadcast Bands" - First in a Series Funding for the program's transmission costs and production expenses were provided this week by a grant from Chris Huber, N6ICW, and the N6ICW Repeater Group of Sacramento, California, which carries "This Week in Amateur Radio" in South Lake Tahoe on 145.15 MHz and in Sacramento on 147.195 MHz. "This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur radio news and information service, in audio newsmagazine format, which is produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a non-profit, charitable, tax-exempt foundation based in Albany, New York. The program is carried on the "Omega Radio Network" each Saturday at 7:30 PM (EST) on the Galaxy III commercial communications satellite, transponder 17 (9H), 5.8 MHz wideband audio (4.040 GHz), located at 93.5 degrees west longitude in geosynchronous orbit, and can be heard on various VHF/UHF repeaters throughout the United States and Canada, as well as on 160 meters. Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if "This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area. Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by contributions from repeater system operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals. For further information, contact Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/877-7374, George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665, or Adrian Sebborn, N1JWO, at 413/458-8219. You may also reach them via amateur packet @ WA2UMX.#ENY.NY.USA.NA and on various landline bulletin board services. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jan 1994 21:57:04 -0500 From: kb2ear.ampr.org!starcomm.overleaf.com!not-for-mail@princeton.edu Subject: This Week on Spectrum 01/08/94 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu This week's Spectrum will feature an interview with Ian Mcfarland. Ian has been a very popular fixture in the swl scene for almost a quarter of a century with his programs on Radio Canada International and Radio Japan. His following in the communications hobbyist community is great and you will have an opportunity to talk with him this Saturday on Spectrum. Spectrum airs on WWCR 5.810 MHz at 03:00 UTC Sundays. If you have access to a satellite dish you can hear the program on the Omega radio network on Galaxy III transponder 17 at 5.8 wideband audio. -- Spectrum, "The Communications Magazine You Read With Your Ears." WWCR, Nashville, TN, USA, 5810 KHz. Omega Radio Network, Galaxy III, Ch 17, 5.8 MHz., Wide Band Audio 03:00 UTC Sunday, 22:00 EST Saturday. Box 722, Holmdel, NJ, 07733-0722, USA spectrum@overleaf.com, askspectrum@attmail.com, spectrumshow@genie.geis.com +1 800-787-SPECTRUM, +1 908-671-4209 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 94 03:36:16 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: TOYOTAS AND HAM RADIO To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Ok, ok, so I'm stupid. Ham radios are now Type Accepted. Does this include a limitation on RF on the power cables (inside the ham bands) ?? 73 and eating crow, Bob W3otc ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 94 01:38:39 GMT From: world!dbr@uunet.uu.net Subject: What Kind of Antenna Is This? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Jan7.214214.17828@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, richard chalk <rchalk@nyx10.cs.du.edu> wrote: >dbr@world.std.com (Dan Reiner) writes: > >>A mobile antenna I've seen in various cities, almost exclusively on >>municipal vehicles, looks sort of like a folded sheet of cardboard >>lying upright on the long side. In other words, it's about four inches >>high, ten inches long and maybe an inch thick. > >This is most likely a VHF Slot antenna, with the slot running horizontally >under the bar. A horizontal slot will radiate Vertically polarized signals, >and the biggest advantage of this design is low physical profile....ideal >for Busses, etc. > >Richard > Thanks for the info, Richard. Do you know of any articles or published construction info? If a ham antenna can be made low-profile enough, radio thieves might ignore the car...not to mention carwashes. Thanks again -- Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 19:49:28 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu!martin@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2ghta6$rj3@news.tamu.edu>, <1994Jan6.221522.1@wcsub.ctstateu.edu>, <CJ9u4M.6Jn@news.iastate.edu>u Subject : Re: How does it work? I don't know for an absolute fact about the Card Key system mentioned in an earlier post, but it is probably a RF-actuated device in which the card reader illuminates the card with a radio frequency that may or may not change frequently, but serves to provide electric power to the identifier unit which is a small IC burried in the card along with a metalic trace which serves as an antenna. When the card is near the reader, the RF field is rectified to form DC which powers the little transmitter in the card. This transmitter probably starts sending a series of digital bursts containing the unique serial number of the card. If I am wrong, let's here from somebody who knows more about it. Oklahoma has a system called "Pikepass" in which one pays a turnpike toal by depositing money into an account. You, then, have a little palm-sized sealed device which fits on the driver's side windshield. When you drive through the toal booth area, you can just buzz right past the gate and a signal from a little dish mounted overhead wakes up your Pikepass and identifies your car, or rather, your account to the data base. When your account gets low, you get a note from the Turnpike Authority advising you that you need to feed the account, again, and you also see a sign which flashes "Low Balance" or something like that when you go through. Each month, you get a statement from the Turnpike Authority showing wheree you used the system and how much money is left. We have a Cardkey system at Oklahoma State University, but our cards are the magnetic stripe variety and don't appear to be anything special. This is all pretty far off the subject, but the techniques used to make some of these electronic identifiers work do involve radio and are good examples of cleaver design. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 22:23:34 GMT From: ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!torynews!kevin@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2gepc1$58r@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <2gi3tr$oe6@crcnis1.unl.edu>, <gregCJ9M8u.9tv@netcom.com> Subject : Re: Where's my QST? In article <gregCJ9M8u.9tv@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes: > >This solid technical content was selected by the same editorial staff >(at the member's expense) which no doubt smugly belittles W2NSD's monthly >ramblings in '73.' > >We can't cover Lambda, but choo-choos and stamps are relevant, eh guys? > Jeez, Greg, get a life. I see no smiley here, I guess you are just dying to open up that flame-bait can again. Sorry, you'll receive no help from me. -- ___________ Kevin Sanders, KN6FQ | ___ | kevin.sanders@torreypinesca.ncr.com |o o \_/ o o| Try Boatanchors kevin%beacons@cyber.net |o o @ o o| For A Real Lift |___________| ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #12 ****************************** ******************************