Date: Fri, 31 Dec 93 15:30:56 PST
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1528
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Info-Hams Digest Fri, 31 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1528
Today's Topics:
"Renewal" batteries -- a note
Callbooks around the world?
FFTMORSE
KENWOOD 732A MODS
Looking for information
ORBS$365.2L.AMSAT
ORBS$365.MICRO.AMSAT
ORBS$365.WEATH,AMSAT
Repeater database? (2 msgs)
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 22:26:19 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!metropolis.gis.iastate.edu!willmore@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: "Renewal" batteries -- a note
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
gsmlrn@gsm001.mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes:
>Thanks for the inof. I am in the process of converting my nicad "arsenal"
>to renewal batteries and any info would be helpful.
>As for the reverse charging, try placing a diode in series with the 4.5 volt
>pack. As no diode has infinite reverse resistance (0 reverse current) there
>may be some reverse charging, but it might be low enough (also depends on
>the interal resistance of the batteries) to fix your problem. Just about
>any rectifer diode would do.
>Ray-O-Vac aslo has a toll free info number and if you call when the enginers
>are there, they will transfer you to one.
Just a few comments here. For one, Renewal or any other Alkaline battery is
a poor choice of power for amateur radio equiptment due to their level of
current use. Alkaline batteries lose out to high capacity NiCd batteries (for
AA size) at about 300ma of current draw. Almost any transmitter fits into
this category. TNC's and other small devices may be able to make use of Alkaline
batteries, but a transmitter or a receiver (with a speaker) will easily draw
more power than that.
If you really want to spend a lot of money, just buy some NiMh batteries. They
cost about the same as Renewal and will provide a longer life (charge to charge)
than will Renewal batteries. The last time I priced NiMh AA's, they ran for $6.00
each. I'm sure that you can find them for less than that now.
Regarding the use of a diode to protect a cell from reverse charge, you would need
a perfect diode to perform this function. Putting a diode in parallel with a cell
would prevent that cell from being reverse charged more than .6V--which wouldn't
do any good. Putting a diode in line with the batteries will either prevent them
from charging or discharging. I don't see how you can protect them from reverse
charge by putting a diode in series--unless you do so by preventing them from
discharging, also. :)
Cheers,
David
--
___________________________________________________________________________
willmore@iastate.edu | "Death before dishonor" | "Better dead than greek" |
David Willmore | "Ever noticed how much they look like orchids? Lovely!" |
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Date: Fri, 31 DEC 93 15:40:46 EST
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Callbooks around the world?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'm putting together a radio-related gopher on the Delphi online system,
and while I have pointers to two US callbooks (at Buffalo and the
Anomaly one in RI), I'm wondering if there are any other, either in the
US or more importantly for other countries. If anyone can pass on that
info, I'd appreciate it. E-mail to VIDGAMES@DELPHI.COM is recommended
because I don't monitor this newsgroup very much and will be out of town
for most of the next week.
Thanks in advance for your help...
A E
--
Andy Eddy, Senior Editor, GamePro Magazine
VIDGAMES@NETCOM.COM <=+=> 818-246-6550 fax/voice/answering machine
The views expressed in this text aren't necessarily those of my employer
*finger me for my recent writing credits and other online accounts*
"I don't want the world, I just want your half." -- They Might Be Giants
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 16:35:56 GMT
From: usc!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!raven.alaska.edu!acad2.alaska.edu!auchd@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FFTMORSE
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have been unable to get FFTMORSE working with my Soundblaster Pro. Can
anyone verify if this program will work with SBP or any other helpful hints
that might get this thing working?
WL7NO - James M. Wiedle
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Date: 31 Dec 93 13:07:39 -0700
From: usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!babiyd@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: KENWOOD 732A MODS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hiya folks, Happy New Year,
Looking for mods for a Kenwood 732A Transceiver.
Anyone have a mod file they can send me?
Net access is spotty over the season, so please email me?
Tnx,
VE7XDB
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 93 16:32:03 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Looking for information
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Doesn't anyone read books any more?
Doesn't anyone go the the library and look for something themselves?
Doesn't anyone look in technical publications for information?
What is it about the internet that seems to breed the following attitude?
"I don't want to expend the effort to
look so can someone else do it for me?"
Along a similar thread, how is it that no one seems to think of the
manufacturers as a source of information?
Are you people really that cheap, lazy or stupid?
Not that the ARRL amateur radio handbook is the be all to end all,
but it is two inches thick for a reason. Likewise, QST is loaded
full of advertisements. (As several others complain about.)
Dialing 411 (In the US) gets you directory assistance. Dialing
1 (area code) 555-1212 gets you directory assistance for any other
area code. Dialing 1 800 555-1212 gets you the free number directory
assistance for those of you too cheap to call someone direct.
Now I know there are a lot of obscure technical aspects to amateur
radio, but geeze people. Get off of your tail ends and look around
a bit before you waste every one elses time.
And before the self appointed guardians of the net jump on me about
the remark of wasting my time, consider this, I don't think there are
any stupid questions. But there sure are a lot of unnecessary ones.
73 es GM from Jeff
Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: jangus@skyld.tele.com | universe run by a single omni-
US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | potent god. I see it more as a
Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | badly run corporation."
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Date: 31 Dec 93 16:47:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$365.2L.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-365.N
2Line Orbital Elements 365.AMSAT
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX December 31, 1993
BID: $ORBS-365.N
DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
AO-10
1 14129U 83058B 93360.41320507 -.00000311 00000-0 10000-3 0 2379
2 14129 27.2015 349.6000 6021502 141.2833 282.9354 2.05879668 79220
UO-11
1 14781U 84021B 93362.07707859 .00000213 00000-0 44030-4 0 6439
2 14781 97.7938 19.7461 0012661 94.0796 266.1858 14.69108205525188
RS-10/11
1 18129U 87054A 93362.24286562 .00000047 00000-0 35308-4 0 8413
2 18129 82.9283 95.2053 0012703 133.8292 226.3913 13.72328759326464
AO-13
1 19216U 88051B 93358.73417009 -.00000359 00000-0 10000-4 0 8510
2 19216 57.9609 277.2102 7211124 331.1032 3.3836 2.09723023 42354
FO-20
1 20480U 90013C 93364.10373196 -.00000018 00000-0 32924-4 0 6409
2 20480 99.0174 183.0203 0541189 2.6742 357.7056 12.83223163182445
AO-21
1 21087U 91006A 93363.78995260 .00000094 00000-0 82657-4 0 4017
2 21087 82.9450 268.0636 0034363 194.3521 165.6661 13.74530789146316
RS-12/13
1 21089U 91007A 93362.84080438 .00000036 00000-0 22759-4 0 6439
2 21089 82.9219 137.7780 0028333 221.5044 138.3962 13.74032271145252
ARSENE
1 22654U 93031B 93321.93138545 -.00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 2108
2 22654 1.4185 113.8817 2935300 161.0091 211.2000 1.42195961 2757
UO-14
1 20437U 90005B 93362.19825192 .00000046 00000-0 34841-4 0 9422
2 20437 98.6028 84.2277 0011292 337.6205 22.4483 14.29812711205154
AO-16
1 20439U 90005D 93362.19044136 .00000021 00000-0 25387-4 0 7432
2 20439 98.6109 85.2804 0011413 338.4753 21.5948 14.29868863205161
DO-17
1 20440U 90005E 93362.72112281 .00000022 00000-0 25520-4 0 7430
2 20440 98.6115 86.0734 0011486 336.0862 23.9786 14.30006589205253
WO-18
1 20441U 90005F 93362.27369208 .00000029 00000-0 28118-4 0 7448
2 20441 98.6107 85.6427 0012153 337.9287 22.1370 14.29983727205191
LO-19
1 20442U 90005G 93362.19321976 .00000022 00000-0 25674-4 0 7425
2 20442 98.6119 85.7807 0012433 337.6335 22.4304 14.30076764205196
UO-22
1 21575U 91050B 93362.39229816 .00000047 00000-0 30411-4 0 4436
2 21575 98.4537 75.2021 0008751 77.8526 282.3610 14.36876541128559
KO-23
1 22077U 92052B 93362.88719632 -.00000037 00000-0 10000-3 0 3396
2 22077 66.0871 276.5452 0007562 329.2575 30.7992 12.86282651 64889
AO-27
1 22825U 93061C 93362.71502970 .00000018 00000-0 25222-4 0 2418
2 22825 98.6728 75.1048 0008935 352.3570 7.7472 14.27597768 13362
IO-26
1 22826U 93061D 93362.70832665 .00000012 00000-0 22595-4 0 2420
2 22826 98.6726 75.1103 0009492 353.4556 6.6499 14.27700094 13363
KO-25
1 22830U 93061H 93362.19680552 .00000030 00000-0 29598-4 0 2424
2 22830 98.5723 73.6658 0010898 323.0543 36.9888 14.28024415 13290
NOAA-9
1 15427U 84123A 93354.09639046 .00000113 00000-0 84054-4 0 6423
2 15427 99.0778 37.2630 0015442 8.0271 352.1146 14.13572305465048
NOAA-10
1 16969U 86073A 93354.02187208 .00000062 00000-0 44748-4 0 5408
2 16969 98.5124 3.4782 0013795 128.8764 231.3649 14.24851603377095
MET-2/17
1 18820U 88005A 93362.20414100 .00000056 00000-0 36911-4 0 2410
2 18820 82.5428 44.6042 0015693 305.2443 54.7243 13.84703211298694
MET-3/2
1 19336U 88064A 93362.22551918 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 2425
2 19336 82.5429 84.6681 0016253 335.1957 24.8381 13.16962602260759
NOAA-11
1 19531U 88089A 93354.12874457 .00000106 00000-0 81723-4 0 4407
2 19531 99.1549 333.8243 0011091 278.6226 81.3688 14.12942396269933
MET-2/18
1 19851U 89018A 93362.79483548 .00000079 00000-0 57302-4 0 2429
2 19851 82.5220 279.7621 0014935 351.2669 8.8229 13.84353093244113
MET-3/3
1 20305U 89086A 93362.87463836 .00000044 00000-0 10000-3 0 9564
2 20305 82.5503 27.7388 0007101 1.6384 358.4743 13.04420277200692
MET-2/19
1 20670U 90057A 93362.06042048 .00000023 00000-0 79036-5 0 7424
2 20670 82.5450 344.3934 0014555 269.7083 90.2412 13.84185237176943
FY-1/2
1 20788U 90081A 93360.47055517 .00000417 00000-0 30433-3 0 8513
2 20788 98.8535 21.0647 0016083 128.7875 238.6680 14.01407715169516
MET-2/20
1 20826U 90086A 93362.27946736 .00000083 00000-0 61800-4 0 7413
2 20826 82.5264 281.9547 0012825 160.7503 199.4144 13.83567961164128
MET-3/4
1 21232U 91030A 93361.86310622 .00000050 00000-0 10000-3 0 6483
2 21232 82.5410 290.7099 0011909 255.3812 104.5990 13.16458134128818
NOAA-12
1 21263U 91032A 93354.09713546 .00000151 00000-0 87438-4 0 8471
2 21263 98.6387 20.6638 0013805 38.8062 321.4103 14.22347172135079
MET-3/5
1 21655U 91056A 93362.17791313 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 6453
2 21655 82.5558 237.5032 0012942 268.1655 91.7985 13.16826722113953
MET-2/21
1 22782U 93055A 93362.91772042 .00000054 00000-0 36147-4 0 2423
2 22782 82.5473 341.3647 0022838 347.0390 13.0185 13.82995463 16554
MIR
1 16609U 86017A 93364.19950354 .00010973 00000-0 14240-3 0 664
2 16609 51.6194 314.7124 0005815 145.1002 215.0377 15.59385717449681
HUBBLE
1 20580U 90037B 93363.20816968 .00000799 00000-0 64998-4 0 4134
2 20580 28.4701 247.6909 0006246 111.9745 248.1500 14.90398236 4001
GRO
1 21225U 91027B 93356.46954065 .00003496 00000-0 79758-4 0 382
2 21225 28.4628 17.8570 0003464 25.0031 335.0734 15.39616634 29662
UARS
1 21701U 91063B 93362.29467793 .00002147 00000-0 20924-3 0 4449
2 21701 56.9814 123.8167 0005590 106.6502 253.5156 14.96341260125352
POSAT
1 22829U 93061G 93362.61920446 .00000038 00000-0 33117-4 0 2349
2 22829 98.6675 75.0256 0010212 340.0264 20.0536 14.27992747 13356
/EX
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Date: 31 Dec 93 16:39:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$365.MICRO.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-365.D
Orbital Elements 365.MICROS
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX December 31, 1993
BID: $ORBS-365.D
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
Satellite: UO-14
Catalog number: 20437
Epoch time: 93362.19825192
Element set: 942
Inclination: 98.6028 deg
RA of node: 84.2277 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0011292
Arg of perigee: 337.6205 deg
Mean anomaly: 22.4483 deg
Mean motion: 14.29812711 rev/day
Decay rate: 4.6e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20515
Checksum: 293
Satellite: AO-16
Catalog number: 20439
Epoch time: 93362.19044136
Element set: 743
Inclination: 98.6109 deg
RA of node: 85.2804 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0011413
Arg of perigee: 338.4753 deg
Mean anomaly: 21.5948 deg
Mean motion: 14.29868863 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.1e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20516
Checksum: 305
Satellite: DO-17
Catalog number: 20440
Epoch time: 93362.72112281
Element set: 743
Inclination: 98.6115 deg
RA of node: 86.0734 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0011486
Arg of perigee: 336.0862 deg
Mean anomaly: 23.9786 deg
Mean motion: 14.30006589 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20525
Checksum: 285
Satellite: WO-18
Catalog number: 20441
Epoch time: 93362.27369208
Element set: 744
Inclination: 98.6107 deg
RA of node: 85.6427 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0012153
Arg of perigee: 337.9287 deg
Mean anomaly: 22.1370 deg
Mean motion: 14.29983727 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.9e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20519
Checksum: 315
Satellite: LO-19
Catalog number: 20442
Epoch time: 93362.19321976
Element set: 742
Inclination: 98.6119 deg
RA of node: 85.7807 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0012433
Arg of perigee: 337.6335 deg
Mean anomaly: 22.4304 deg
Mean motion: 14.30076764 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20519
Checksum: 293
Satellite: UO-22
Catalog number: 21575
Epoch time: 93362.39229816
Element set: 443
Inclination: 98.4537 deg
RA of node: 75.2021 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0008751
Arg of perigee: 77.8526 deg
Mean anomaly: 282.3610 deg
Mean motion: 14.36876541 rev/day
Decay rate: 4.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 12855
Checksum: 317
Satellite: KO-23
Catalog number: 22077
Epoch time: 93362.88719632
Element set: 339
Inclination: 66.0871 deg
RA of node: 276.5452 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0007562
Arg of perigee: 329.2575 deg
Mean anomaly: 30.7992 deg
Mean motion: 12.86282651 rev/day
Decay rate: -3.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 6488
Checksum: 336
Satellite: AO-27
Catalog number: 22825
Epoch time: 93362.71502970
Element set: 241
Inclination: 98.6728 deg
RA of node: 75.1048 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0008935
Arg of perigee: 352.3570 deg
Mean anomaly: 7.7472 deg
Mean motion: 14.27597768 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.8e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 1336
Checksum: 320
Satellite: IO-26
Catalog number: 22826
Epoch time: 93362.70832665
Element set: 242
Inclination: 98.6726 deg
RA of node: 75.1103 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0009492
Arg of perigee: 353.4556 deg
Mean anomaly: 6.6499 deg
Mean motion: 14.27700094 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 1336
Checksum: 301
Satellite: KO-25
Catalog number: 22830
Epoch time: 93362.19680552
Element set: 242
Inclination: 98.5723 deg
RA of node: 73.6658 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0010898
Arg of perigee: 323.0543 deg
Mean anomaly: 36.9888 deg
Mean motion: 14.28024415 rev/day
Decay rate: 3.0e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 1329
Checksum: 306
/EX
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Date: 31 Dec 93 16:42:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$365.WEATH,AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-365.W
Orbital Elements 365.WEATHER
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX December 31, 1993
BID: $ORBS-365.W
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
Satellite: NOAA-9
Catalog number: 15427
Epoch time: 93354.09639046
Element set: 642
Inclination: 99.0778 deg
RA of node: 37.2630 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0015442
Arg of perigee: 8.0271 deg
Mean anomaly: 352.1146 deg
Mean motion: 14.13572305 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.13e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 46504
Checksum: 283
Satellite: NOAA-10
Catalog number: 16969
Epoch time: 93354.02187208
Element set: 540
Inclination: 98.5124 deg
RA of node: 3.4782 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0013795
Arg of perigee: 128.8764 deg
Mean anomaly: 231.3649 deg
Mean motion: 14.24851603 rev/day
Decay rate: 6.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 37709
Checksum: 314
Satellite: MET-2/17
Catalog number: 18820
Epoch time: 93362.20414100
Element set: 241
Inclination: 82.5428 deg
RA of node: 44.6042 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0015693
Arg of perigee: 305.2443 deg
Mean anomaly: 54.7243 deg
Mean motion: 13.84703211 rev/day
Decay rate: 5.6e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 29869
Checksum: 276
Satellite: MET-3/2
Catalog number: 19336
Epoch time: 93362.22551918
Element set: 242
Inclination: 82.5429 deg
RA of node: 84.6681 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0016253
Arg of perigee: 335.1957 deg
Mean anomaly: 24.8381 deg
Mean motion: 13.16962602 rev/day
Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 26075
Checksum: 303
Satellite: NOAA-11
Catalog number: 19531
Epoch time: 93354.12874457
Element set: 440
Inclination: 99.1549 deg
RA of node: 333.8243 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0011091
Arg of perigee: 278.6226 deg
Mean anomaly: 81.3688 deg
Mean motion: 14.12942396 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.06e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 26993
Checksum: 320
Satellite: MET-2/18
Catalog number: 19851
Epoch time: 93362.79483548
Element set: 242
Inclination: 82.5220 deg
RA of node: 279.7621 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0014935
Arg of perigee: 351.2669 deg
Mean anomaly: 8.8229 deg
Mean motion: 13.84353093 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.9e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 24411
Checksum: 328
Satellite: MET-3/3
Catalog number: 20305
Epoch time: 93362.87463836
Element set: 956
Inclination: 82.5503 deg
RA of node: 27.7388 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0007101
Arg of perigee: 1.6384 deg
Mean anomaly: 358.4743 deg
Mean motion: 13.04420277 rev/day
Decay rate: 4.4e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 20069
Checksum: 293
Satellite: MET-2/19
Catalog number: 20670
Epoch time: 93362.06042048
Element set: 742
Inclination: 82.5450 deg
RA of node: 344.3934 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0014555
Arg of perigee: 269.7083 deg
Mean anomaly: 90.2412 deg
Mean motion: 13.84185237 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 17694
Checksum: 299
Satellite: FY-1/2
Catalog number: 20788
Epoch time: 93360.47055517
Element set: 851
Inclination: 98.8535 deg
RA of node: 21.0647 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0016083
Arg of perigee: 128.7875 deg
Mean anomaly: 238.6680 deg
Mean motion: 14.01407715 rev/day
Decay rate: 4.17e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 16951
Checksum: 318
Satellite: MET-2/20
Catalog number: 20826
Epoch time: 93362.27946736
Element set: 741
Inclination: 82.5264 deg
RA of node: 281.9547 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0012825
Arg of perigee: 160.7503 deg
Mean anomaly: 199.4144 deg
Mean motion: 13.83567961 rev/day
Decay rate: 8.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 16412
Checksum: 321
Satellite: MET-3/4
Catalog number: 21232
Epoch time: 93361.86310622
Element set: 648
Inclination: 82.5410 deg
RA of node: 290.7099 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0011909
Arg of perigee: 255.3812 deg
Mean anomaly: 104.5990 deg
Mean motion: 13.16458134 rev/day
Decay rate: 5.0e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 12881
Checksum: 287
Satellite: NOAA-12
Catalog number: 21263
Epoch time: 93354.09713546
Element set: 847
Inclination: 98.6387 deg
RA of node: 20.6638 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0013805
Arg of perigee: 38.8062 deg
Mean anomaly: 321.4103 deg
Mean motion: 14.22347172 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.51e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 13507
Checksum: 285
Satellite: MET-3/5
Catalog number: 21655
Epoch time: 93362.17791313
Element set: 645
Inclination: 82.5558 deg
RA of node: 237.5032 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0012942
Arg of perigee: 268.1655 deg
Mean anomaly: 91.7985 deg
Mean motion: 13.16826722 rev/day
Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 11395
Checksum: 316
Satellite: MET-2/21
Catalog number: 22782
Epoch time: 93362.91772042
Element set: 242
Inclination: 82.5473 deg
RA of node: 341.3647 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0022838
Arg of perigee: 347.0390 deg
Mean anomaly: 13.0185 deg
Mean motion: 13.82995463 rev/day
Decay rate: 5.4e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 1655
Checksum: 300
/EX
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 22:13:40 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!iat.holonet.net!bwilkins@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Repeater database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
dts@world.std.com (Daniel T Senie)after my editing... writes:
: In article <1993Dec30.183810.9862@newshost.pictel.com> wpns@newshost.pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes:
: >dts@world.std.com (Daniel T Senie) writes:
: >>The repeater directory does NOT list evrey frequency in use. Many frequencies
: >>are used for other purposes than repeaters, yet are sensitive to interference.
: >>When you pick a simplex frequency, please keep this in mind!
: >
:
: There is a BIG PROBLEM in that the 440 band plan lists only ONE simplex
: frequency. This is STUPID.
The 440 band plan is REPEATERS ! The simplex area of the UHF band is 431
- 433 MHz surly you can find a simplex channel in the two mhz allocated.
Here in northern California we talk simplex on our repeater Outputs so we
don't miss any activity on the repeater. Ok that means 200 simplex
channels. If you are not a repeater user then use an Output frequency that
is not in use in your area. Same goes for cross-band repeat...operate
on unused Output frequencies in UHF. Be prepared to move frequency until
you find a clear frequency. Operating on a coordinated input frequency can
cause harmful interference to a vary distant repeater.
Coordinated 440 simplex frequencies here in Northern California are:
446.000 Nationwide fm simplex
441.000 Remote Bases and cross-band repeaters
446.500 fm simplex most user groups use ctcss encode decode
441.500 mixed use 1200 bd packet
441.875 coordinated test pair for duplex activities ctcss encode decode
:
: As for crossband repeat functions of radios, these make the radio into a
: REPEATER. Coordination is required to keep from interfering. Just where on
: the band are you going to land those signals? What if it is in the middle
: of someone's ATV or high-speed packet? The channel might sound perfectly
: clear with either of these, since your narrowband receiver may not even
: hear the wide signal.
Most cross-band repeaters do not identify properly so when they cause
interference they are extremly hard to track down. So when you are
eventually discovered be prepared for flames...
:
: If your local frequency coorinator has not set up a full complement of
: simplex and test channels, then go to the meetings of the coordination
: council and ask that this be done! As I see you are in New England, I can
: give you moreinformation on the subject regarding the 440 band, if you are
: interested.
:
: Dan Senie N1JEB
Thanks Dan
bob
--
Bob Wilkins n6fri voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
bwilkins@cave.org packet n6fri @ n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.na
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 23:20:00 GMT
From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Repeater database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CIx72u.1yo@iat.holonet.net> bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) writes:
>dts@world.std.com (Daniel T Senie)after my editing... writes:
>: In article <1993Dec30.183810.9862@newshost.pictel.com> wpns@newshost.pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes:
>: >dts@world.std.com (Daniel T Senie) writes:
>: >>The repeater directory does NOT list evrey frequency in use. Many frequencies
>: >>are used for other purposes than repeaters, yet are sensitive to interference.
>: >>When you pick a simplex frequency, please keep this in mind!
>: >
>:
>: There is a BIG PROBLEM in that the 440 band plan lists only ONE simplex
>: frequency. This is STUPID.
>
>The 440 band plan is REPEATERS !
In your area 440 may be solely repeaters. This is NOT true in the New England
area. It depends on the local coordination council.
> The simplex area of the UHF band is 431
>- 433 MHz surly you can find a simplex channel in the two mhz allocated.
Oh, this'll win you lots of friends. The frequencies you quote are the SSB/CW
area of the band plan. FM in this area is NOT recommended.
>
>Here in northern California we talk simplex on our repeater Outputs so we
>don't miss any activity on the repeater. Ok that means 200 simplex
>channels. If you are not a repeater user then use an Output frequency that
>is not in use in your area. Same goes for cross-band repeat...operate
>on unused Output frequencies in UHF. Be prepared to move frequency until
>you find a clear frequency. Operating on a coordinated input frequency can
>cause harmful interference to a vary distant repeater.
>
>Coordinated 440 simplex frequencies here in Northern California are:
>
>446.000 Nationwide fm simplex
>441.000 Remote Bases and cross-band repeaters
>446.500 fm simplex most user groups use ctcss encode decode
>441.500 mixed use 1200 bd packet
>
>441.875 coordinated test pair for duplex activities ctcss encode decode
>
>:
>: As for crossband repeat functions of radios, these make the radio into a
>: REPEATER. Coordination is required to keep from interfering. Just where on
>: the band are you going to land those signals? What if it is in the middle
>: of someone's ATV or high-speed packet? The channel might sound perfectly
>: clear with either of these, since your narrowband receiver may not even
>: hear the wide signal.
>
>Most cross-band repeaters do not identify properly so when they cause
>interference they are extremly hard to track down. So when you are
>eventually discovered be prepared for flames...
>
>:
>: If your local frequency coorinator has not set up a full complement of
>: simplex and test channels, then go to the meetings of the coordination
>: council and ask that this be done! As I see you are in New England, I can
>: give you moreinformation on the subject regarding the 440 band, if you are
>: interested.
>:
>: Dan Senie N1JEB
>
>Thanks Dan
>
>bob
>
>--
>Bob Wilkins n6fri voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
>bwilkins@cave.org packet n6fri @ n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.na
>
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Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
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