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Info-Hams Digest Tue, 28 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1515
Today's Topics:
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ARLP051
cw waivers (3 msgs)
Fullerton Area First Night Festival Station (2 msgs)
Ham ticket (3 msgs)
Need TS 440 and TU 8 information
Optimum call sign for CW/contests?
STOLEN
tcp-group-digest
UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams" (2 msgs)
Where are all the young enthusiasts? (2 msgs)
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Date: 27 Dec 93 23:03:18 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: (none)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
help
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 09:59:39 -0700
From: usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLP051
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
ZCZC AP13
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 51 ARLP051
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 22:40:21 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!esds01.es.dupont.com!COLLINST%esvx19.es.dupont.com@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: cw waivers
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CIpoCt.BCz@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer) writes:
>From article <1993Dec27.150035.10400@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, by gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman):
>>
>> CW is still alive among contesters because it's a *separate award category*.
>> The purpose of contesting is to accumulate as many awards as possible,
>> ... other stuff deleted ...
>
>You can't possibly be serious!
>
>CW is still alive among contesters BECAUSE IT'S FUN!
>
>Only a handful of the 2000+ operators who send in entries for the CQ
>Worldwide DX CW Contest every year get any awards. And that says
FUN!!!! Bite your tongue....God forbid a Radio Amateur have
fun....That Sir isn't advancing the "Art of Radio"......
You must hate CW, and only operate your TCP/IP Pulse Position
Modulated Spread Spectrum signal in the 14.000-14.025Mhz range,
and frown while doing it. FUN.....no way. The Amateur Radio
Service is to make fun of and put down anyone using such
outmoded transmission as CW....rather you should be on some
mountain top using a 10Ghz signal pointed to the Remlaks
on the planet Zotar....no FUN is allowed.
No one in their right mind could have FUN using CW at 20WPM
shooting the breaze with a Extra Class Amateur....FUN is not
defined anywhere in Part 97....
(The above for the Anal Retentive Types is HUMOR 8-) not to be confused
with serious comments)
Thanks & 73 |"Get your facts first, and then you can
Tom WI3P | distort them as much as you please."
collinst@esvax.dnet.dupont.com| Mark Twain
*** MY EMPLOYER DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME NOR I FOR THEM ****
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 19:25:30 PST
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!oneb!ham!emd@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: cw waivers
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
collinst@esvx19.es.dupont.com (Thomas Collins WI3P) writes:
> In article <CIpoCt.BCz@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPe
> >From article <1993Dec27.150035.10400@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, by gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.
> >>
> >> CW is still alive among contesters because it's a *separate award category
> >> The purpose of contesting is to accumulate as many awards as possible,
> >> ... other stuff deleted ...
> >
> >You can't possibly be serious!
> >
> >CW is still alive among contesters BECAUSE IT'S FUN!
> >
> >Only a handful of the 2000+ operators who send in entries for the CQ
> >Worldwide DX CW Contest every year get any awards. And that says
>
> FUN!!!! Bite your tongue....God forbid a Radio Amateur have
> fun....That Sir isn't advancing the "Art of Radio"......
>
> You must hate CW, and only operate your TCP/IP Pulse Position
> Modulated Spread Spectrum signal in the 14.000-14.025Mhz range,
> and frown while doing it. FUN.....no way. The Amateur Radio
> Service is to make fun of and put down anyone using such
> outmoded transmission as CW....rather you should be on some
> mountain top using a 10Ghz signal pointed to the Remlaks
> on the planet Zotar....no FUN is allowed.
>
> No one in their right mind could have FUN using CW at 20WPM
> shooting the breaze with a Extra Class Amateur....FUN is not
> defined anywhere in Part 97....
>
> (The above for the Anal Retentive Types is HUMOR 8-) not to be confused
> with serious comments)
>
Jeez, Tom, you just don't understand!
If ya really wanna have fun, put a message on your local 2M repeater at
20 w.p.m. CW, and listen to see how many of the olde phartes can copy it
mobile.....
Not to be discriminatory, young phartes are OK too!
Robert Smits There is *no* idiotproof filter.
VE7EMD Idiots are proof against anything!
Ladysmith B.C. - Richard Chycoski, VE7CVS
e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
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Date: 27 Dec 1993 22:53:02 -0600
From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!bga.com!bga.com!nobody@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: cw waivers
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
All I've gotta say is: Thank god that the FCC is being more stringent with this
code waiver thingy. There are very few cases I can think of where someone could
not copy 13- or 20-wpm code. I can, and (as noted by my .sig) I am blind.
Blindness has, I'm told, been used as an excuse for taking the code waiver.
Well, what a cop-out. Anyhow, yeah, if it's needed, fine, but I think that
there's a number of people who probably take the waiver when, through a little
effort, they could pass the test. No solid proof of course, but it's this
feeling I've got. Irrational, perhaps ... but if the FCC is getting more strict
with it, then it won't affect people who genuinely need a waiver (the few
who do).
73,
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | God is love.
Riff-Raff #4 | Love is blind.
Internet: davros@bga.com | Buddy is blind.
davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Buddy is God.
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 03:19:41 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!mark@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Fullerton Area First Night Festival Station
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The Fullerton Amateur Radio Club is holding a First Night Special Event
Station. First Night, as many of you should know, is a non-alcoholic
celebration of the beginning of 1994.
The club will operate a special event station on the General Section of the
80, 40, 20 and 15 Meter Band from 3UTC to 8UTC with the club sign of
W6ULI. VHF contacts will be made on 147.975, and on the `Big Bear' repeater
on 147.330 on the hour. Certificates for contacts will be provided on receipt
of QSL cards.
For more information, Contact KD6TAD, Rowland D Hill.
Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 03:32:00 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!mark@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Fullerton Area First Night Festival Station
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) writes:
>The Fullerton Amateur Radio Club is holding a First Night Special Event
>Station. First Night, as many of you should know, is a non-alcoholic
>celebration of the beginning of 1994.
>
>The club will operate a special event station on the General Section of the
>80, 40, 20 and 15 Meter Band from 3UTC to 8UTC with the club sign of W6ULI.
Now for *my* question about this information, does *anyone* know what specific
frequencies they might try to be on? As organizer for the radio communications
at First Night here in Edmonton I would like to ensure as `profitable' contact
as possible between the two respective celebrations in each community.
Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
If any Radio Amateur in the Edmonton District is interested in
operating at this event, please contact either me, or Mike Taylor of
the Edmonton First Night Festival organization. If you do not hold
an Amateur Radio Certificate, do NOT let that hold you back from
volunteering in other roles within the festival.
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Date: 27 Dec 93 23:13:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Ham ticket
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF FCC HAS STOPPED PROCESSING LICENSES. I AM STILL
>WAITING SINCE 11/9/93 FOR MY TICKET TO ARRIVE AND I AM GROWING IMPATIENT.
>ALL REPLIES WELCOME!!!
>73
humm.... 11/9...add 8 weeks (allowing for xmas) so 1/4/94 should be about the
time you get it or so. could be longer if the VE team and VEC both took the
full 10 days to do their thing as well. when you get to 2/22/94 will be the
time to start worrying. the new proposed "instant" scheme would have you up
and operating until March 2, 1994 (17 weeks + 1 day = 120 days) and that's
supposed to be the worst it can ever get.
sit tight and quit watching the mail box until March.
bill wb9ivr
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 02:21:57 GMT
From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Ham ticket
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>>DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF FCC HAS STOPPED PROCESSING LICENSES. I AM STILL
>>WAITING SINCE 11/9/93 FOR MY TICKET TO ARRIVE AND I AM GROWING IMPATIENT.
>>ALL REPLIES WELCOME!!!
>>73
Sit tight. You should have your license in a few days. My dad took his test
around the same time (+/- a day or two) and got his ticket today.
--
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Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 06:05:35 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!msattler@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Ham ticket
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Daniel T Senie (dts@world.std.com) wrote:
: >>DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF FCC HAS STOPPED PROCESSING LICENSES. I AM STILL
: >>WAITING SINCE 11/9/93 FOR MY TICKET TO ARRIVE AND I AM GROWING IMPATIENT.
: >>ALL REPLIES WELCOME!!!
: >>73
: Sit tight. You should have your license in a few days. My dad took his test
: around the same time (+/- a day or two) and got his ticket today.
As did I: KE6DZF. Keep checking that mailbox :-)
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Digital Jungle Software Encrypt now; ask me how. (finger for PGP key)
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All that is required for evil to triumph is
for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.
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Date: 28 Dec 93 07:14:40 GMT
From: europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Need TS 440 and TU 8 information
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello All:
I have the Kenwood TS 440 and have picked up the TU 8 tone encoder
(I believe it is the TU 8, it is not marked, but I picked it up from
a former TS 440 owner who said he used it in his radio).
I have no instruction sheet for the TU 8. I need one. Someone kindly
sent me the sheet for the TSU 4, but it is either not the same as the
TU 8, doesn't give me enough info, or my TU 8 does not work. Can't tell.
So....I need the TU 8 instruction sheet. Fax / copy would be just fine.
Actually, info by e-mail would be fine. I need to know:
1. The switch settings to get 107 pl tone.
2. How to activate (where to place the unit). I had heard once (on the
air) that the PL is not activated unless the TS 440 was operating from the
split memories. Is this true?
Thanks for anything at all. I am anxious to use some local 10 meter
repeaters and cannot do it until I figure this all out.
Clark
.....................
Clark Savage Turner, Graduate Student Researcher
Safety Critical Software Group home:
Department of Info. and Computer Science 1514 Verano Place
Irvine, CA. 92717 Irvine, CA. 92715
(714) 856 4049 (714) 856 2131
WA3JPG, QRP #3526, active on HF, VHF and UHF.
ARRL Volunteer Counsel
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Date: Mon, 27 DEC 93 23:06:06 EST
From: news.centerline.com!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Optimum call sign for CW/contests?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In the last ARRL June VHF contest, I did a very little CW with our
group's callsign, KD6BIS. What a _horrible_ call for CW! The B, D and 6
are just one "dit" different, as well as the I and the S.
My old Novice call (KC6DTM) sounded better on CW than my current call,
KM6JE, but at least my new call is shorter to send...
In my humble opinion, the Australian VK prefix is almost musical in CW.
73 from Leigh/KM6JE in Santa Barbara.
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Date: 28 Dec 1993 08:05:33 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!erchul@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: STOLEN
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
STOLEN (from a truck)
Milwaukee, WI (far southeast side)
Cobra 148 GTL CB
serial number: 25031501
Reward offered for information leading
to the aprehension of the person(s)
who stole this radio and/or it's
safe return to it's owner.
contact erchul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
(Christmas can bring out the worst in some people!)
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Date: 27 Dec 1993 22:51:49 GMT
From: usc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.ans.net!mailhost.interaccess.com!interaccess.com!hopken@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: tcp-group-digest
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Can someone give me the correct address to subscribe to this mail list?
I've tried three times at ucsd.edu and got an error message each time.
Thanks for your help!
--
=================================================
Ken Hopkins WA9WCP | Internet - HOPKEN@interaccess.com
Disaster Team - | AMPRnet - 44.72.1.162
American Red Cross | AX.25 - WA9WCP@W9ZMR.IL.USA
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 23:59:17 GMT
From: usc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!avalon.chinalake.navy.mil!avalon!erik@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams"
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Thomas Collins WI3P (collinst@esvx19.es.dupont.com) wrote:
: In article <CIpCrE.2xr@world.std.com>, slm@world.std.com (slm) writes:
: >POLICE TURN TABLES ON POLICE RADIO EAVESDROPPERS
: > The eavesdroppers ``could hardly believe their ears --
: >aliens were invading planet Earth ... Doncaster to be exact,''
: >the report, citing the latest edition of a local police
: >magazine, said.
: > It said several people were arrested and charged with acting
: >illegally on information in police broadcasts.
: Though I know the laws differ in various countries, this
: is (IMHO) a police force with too much time on their
: hands.....(sounds like something that could happen
: in New Jersey 8-)
Agreed about the police methods, but who is going to take
seriously a report about aliens? I remember as a child
police talking about Santa Claus sitings over their
radios but I didn't buy it.
Imagine the double indignity of
1. being arrested
2. for rushing to the scene of a "UFO" siting
Mr. Fingers (and many others no doubt) once said
"Believe one-half of what you see, one-third of what you read,
and one-tenth of what you hear."
--
Erik KC6UUT DoD#4342585443 AMA#438054
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 20:56:54 +0000
From: pipex!demon!llondel.demon.co.uk!dave@uunet.uu.net
Subject: UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams"
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CIpCrE.2xr@world.std.com> slm@world.std.com (slm) writes:
>
>I read the following "Guardian" report, via Reuters news service, and was rather
>irked. I would imagine that all the folks involved in this were
>NOT necessarily ham-radio operators :-(
>
>And I'm no expert on British law, but it seems rather unfortunate
>to arrest someone because they wanted to drive someplace and see
>something, if they were looking from a distance and not interfering
>with police activities.
>
[article deleted]
This one is also doing the rounds on the GB packet network, and everyone is
complaining about the lack of distinction between licensed amateurs and
scanner-only people. Most amateurs would have more sense than to turn up.
Under English law (and probably Scottish as well - the two are not always
the same) the only things you can listen to radio-wise without a licence of
some sort are broadcast stuff, amateur radio and transmissions from the
standard frequency service.
In practice, you can listen to anything you like so long as you don't admit
to doing so. By turning up at the UFO event all these people were implicitly
admitting to listening to police frequencies. Serves them right for being
stupid really.
Note that I don't agree with the law, but the British Goverment has always
been a bit paranoid about what its citizens can listen to!
Dave
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Date: 27 Dec 93 22:31:57 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>But there are a few things I have been disappointed with. First and foremost
>is the cost of the hobby. I've been licensed for four months, and I have
>still not saved up enough money to get even my first radio. I have been
>active only
Cost? Go check out some ham mags from 20 years ago. You spent a kilobuck on
equipment that did less that didn't perform as well overall. and you got to
spend time "installing" it by making all the patch cords (well, at least
running down to radio shack...). you needed a receiver, transmitter, a
separate power supply and speaker -- around $1200 or so list from places like
Drake. Collins is out of the question. And the TS-520 is an "unproven rice
burner" at this time, and is priced around $600. don't forget you need a key,
mike, etc.
USE that club station when you have time. But you say you aren't there. Have
you investigated clubs in the area where you happen to be? it would be
worth checking out. And you don't have to do it ALL right away. you can keep
your CW fresh using a computer. (it took me 19 years to finally get the
Extra..) and it sounds like you have something to use to keep in touch with
the others in the area.
you are just starting out...relax and give it some time. when you get out of
school and start working you'll have more time for an avocation and hopefully
the funding to afford some nice new stuff.
(price other things to do like Photography, Scuba Diving, heck, even Bowling
-- $100 for shoes (1 league's use will be cheaper than renting),
$125 for something like a Brunswick Rhino Pro Teal ball (it seems
everyone has a "tacky" ball these days...but maybe you want to hold up for the
new "steel" RP ball (bowling alley is pushing it but they haven't gotten any
in yet), $30 for a single ball bag (if you are serious you need at least a
double so you can have your "tacky" and "slick" balls with you when you go to
permit you to adapt to that evening's lane condx), and bowling at $3/game
(or about $350-$400 per league per "season" in a non-money league [low prize
fund contribution]) plus sanction fees and food and drinks and other supplies
if desired (wrist braces, tacky ball cleaner, hand towels, rosin, locker
rental, etc.) or about $600 to get "started" in bowling (assuming you buy
everything new at a pro shop, and don't shop or consider "used" equipment,
last year's "technology" (ye olde Used, Plugged, Black Beauty or AMF "3-dot"
rubber ball for $20 incl fitting and drilling) or "free house balls", etc.)
(me, i have 1 $50, old Ebonite "red" gyro 1 ball that almost hooks on the new
lane surfaces and a $20 bag..i'm killed on shoes with size 14-15 feet..i might
consider getting a new ball in another year or two since the old red urethane
ball is finally beginning to sustain some damage around the finger holes. and
the G1 was a step up from a Custom LTD i had in college i bought with some
christmas gift money i got as a senior in high school - the synthetic alleys
did me in on that one.).
bill wb9ivr
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Date: 27 Dec 1993 23:46:04 GMT
From: europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!u.cc.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!curran@library.ucla.edu
Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The rhino pro teal is $150, and works great. This really should be cross
posted to alt.sports.bowling. hi hi
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP051
ARLP051 Propagation de KT7H
Solar activity was low last week. Solar flux dropped to 83.8 on
December 17, the lowest since September 14.
Geomagnetic conditions were mostly stable. The K index did go as
high as four, but only on a few occasions on the 16th, and once each
day on the 17th, 18th and 22nd.
Flux values should rise to 105 or higher in the first few days of
the new year, and then fall back to around 85 after the middle of
January. There is a possibility of some disturbed conditions around
January 12.
Sunspot Numbers from December 16 through 22 were 29, 47, 51, 25, 53,
45 and 61, with a mean of 44.4. 10.7 cm flux was 84.5, 83.8, 85.1,
87, 91, 92.9 and 100, with a mean of 89.2.
The path projection for this week is for Christmas day, from Omaha,
Nebraska to Soviet Georgia.
80 meters looks good from 2000z to 0800z, with a weaker opening from
1130z to 1500z. The best time is from 2330z to 0430z. 40 meters
should be open around the clock, with the best time from 2300z to
0500z, and the weakest signals from 1130z to 1200z and 1530z to
1630z. 30 meters should be best from 1330z to 1730z, 0400z to 0530z
and again around 0730z. 20 meters should be open around 1430z to
1600z, and there is a small chance of openings from 2130z to 2330z
and 0500z to 0730z. The frequencies above 20 meters do not look
good over this path at this time of year.
NNNN
/EX
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