Date: Sun, 26 Dec 93 16:40:31 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1511 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sun, 26 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1511 Today's Topics: cw waivers (2 msgs) Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 25 December Good Stores/Mail Order/Emergency Use in Car - very long/rambling Help on USA Ham-prefix ! QSL Route for XF4CI ??? was waivers Where are all the young enthusiasts? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Dec 1993 19:30:18 GMT From: usc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu Subject: cw waivers To: info-hams@ucsd.edu lawrence.goodwin@support.com claims: >Anyone with a learning disorder and a doctor can get a code waiver by >just making an appointment. I know a few people who have gotten one >by simply picking up the phone and telling their doctor they need it! I believe the original posting was another complaint about the 5 wpm code requirement, and unless the rules have changed very recently you cannot get a medical waiver for that, only for the 13 and 20 wpm tests. >I recognize it as a nearly obsolete mode that is primarily still alive >for sentimental reasons. This is pure baloney. CW has never been obsolete. You may not like contesting, but for every phone contest there is a CW contest. The best contesters are not interested in using obsolete modes, so why do these contests still exist and generate so much activity? You may not like DXing, but all major expeditions operate mainly SSB phone and CW. Why would people spend thousands of dollars to activate a rare country, aim to make as many QSOs as possible and then use an obsolete mode to do it? Sure, there are a few phone-only expeditions, but there are also CW-only ones. G3SXW spend 3 weeks on Tristan da Cunha and maded 23,000+ QSOs on CW and about 3 on phone. You think he did this just for sentimental reasons? Now I would say that AM is an obsolete mode, it has a few adherents but it is spectrally inefficient and if all the people who use CW did so for purely sentimental reasons you ought to find that a lot of those use CW use AM in preference to SSB. They don't. There are no major contests where anyone uses AM, there are no expeditions that use AM. By your own admission, you have made about 50 CW QSOs in your life, yet you want us to take your word for it that it is an obsolete mode. Did someone tell you this or did you conclude this by yourself after 50 CW QSOs at 5 wpm? I would agree that 5 wpm CW is quasi-obsolete, and I would rarely use it if I were limited to that speed. 5 wpm is an entry level speed only. Even 20 wpm is slow for contests and serious DXing. There is nothing obsolete about CW, but it takes some time and effort to get to the speed where you can use it efficiently. Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392) oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 20:58:10 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com Subject: cw waivers To: info-hams@ucsd.edu oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) wrote: >lawrence.goodwin@support.com claims: >>Anyone with a learning disorder and a doctor can get a code waiver by >>just making an appointment. I know a few people who have gotten one >>by simply picking up the phone and telling their doctor they need it! > > I believe the original posting was another complaint about the > 5 wpm code requirement, and unless the rules have changed very > recently you cannot get a medical waiver for that, only for the > 13 and 20 wpm tests. And the FCC is supposedly getting more stringent about the 13/20 waiver as well. >>I recognize it as a nearly obsolete mode that is primarily still alive >>for sentimental reasons. > > This is pure baloney. CW has never been obsolete. You may not like > contesting, but for every phone contest there is a CW contest. Perhaps he meant "obsolete outside ham radio". It's not likely that you will find a use for Morse code that's (a) not just a licensing requirement, like the code requirement for some commercial licenses, or (b) incapable of being replaced by a newer mode which is easier, faster, or both. > The > best contesters are not interested in using obsolete modes, so why > do these contests still exist and generate so much activity? Isn't this a circular argument? Couldn't you just as well say that Morse is obsolete and the best contesters use Morse, and therefore the best contesters use obsolete modes? And isn't your definition of "best" presupposing the use of Morse? -- ---------------------------------------------------- Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 23:01:30 MST From: destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@uunet.uu.net Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 25 December To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY 25 DECEMBER, 1993 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 25 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 359, 12/25/93 10.7 FLUX=119.1 90-AVG=099 SSN=120 BKI=1322 2111 BAI=006 BGND-XRAY=B5.9 FLU1=9.5E+05 FLU10=1.1E+04 PKI=1313 2122 PAI=007 BOU-DEV=006,027,010,012,015,007,009,006 DEV-AVG=011 NT SWF=01:004 XRAY-MAX= M1.5 @ 1756UT XRAY-MIN= B3.9 @ 2359UT XRAY-AVG= C1.3 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 0740UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 0455UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.2% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2215UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 0850UT PCA-AVG= +0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55358NT @ 0006UT BOUTF-MIN=55335NT @ 2047UT BOUTF-AVG=55349NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+066,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+119NT@ 1816UT GOES6-MIN=N:-055NT@ 0921UT G6-AVG=+090,+022,-028 FLUXFCST=STD:124,130,135;SESC:124,130,135 BAI/PAI-FCST=005,010,005/007,010,015 KFCST=1123 3211 1223 3322 27DAY-AP=004,008 27DAY-KP=1101 2211 4222 2222 WARNINGS=*SWF;*MAJFLR ALERTS=**MINFLR:M1.5/2N@1756,N07E06(7640) !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 24 DEC 93 was 52.3. The Full Kp Indices for 24 DEC 93 are: 2o 1o 2+ 3- 3- 3- 2- 2- SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY -------------------- Solar activity was moderate the past 24 hours. Region 7640 (N09E08) produced an M1/SN flare at 1756Z as well as numerous C-class flares during this period. The region continues to grow in white light while exhibiting increasing inversion line complexity. All other regions are stable. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be moderate. With Rgn 7640 now showing a possible delta config- uration in the main leader group, M-class flaring potential remains high. STD: An additional full-disk Yohkoh x-ray image has been appended to this report, showing the large size and brightness of the x-ray loop structures composing Region 7640. This recent image casts doubt on the existence of an eastern hemisphere coronal hole. More will be known over the next several days as the suspected area rotates into a better position for analysis. Region 7640 is capable of spawning a major flare and bears watching closely. The geomagnetic field has been at mostly quiet levels in the mid latitudes with some active periods experienced at higher latitudes. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be at mostly quiet levels for the next 24 hrs. Event probabilities 26 dec-28 dec Class M 65/70/70 Class X 10/10/10 Proton 05/05/05 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 26 dec-28 dec A. Middle Latitudes Active 10/15/15 Minor Storm 05/05/10 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01 B. High Latitudes Active 10/15/25 Minor Storm 05/10/15 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/05 HF propagation conditions were near-normal over the low and middle latitude paths, and slightly below normal to near-normal for night-sector high and polar latitude paths. Conditions over the high latitudes are beginning to improve due to elevated solar flux levels from Region 7640. The potential for stronger or more frequent SWF activity is increasing as this solar region shows greater overall complexity. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 25/2400Z DECEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7640 N09E08 198 0650 FKI 22 085 BETA-GAMMA 7641 N04E06 200 0080 HSX 03 004 ALPHA 7642 N11W34 240 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7643 S17E54 152 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7635 N02W70 276 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 26 DECEMBER TO 28 DECEMBER NMBR LAT LO 7633 S18 090 7630 S10 087 7629 S20 083 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 25 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------- A. ENERGETIC EVENTS: BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP 1229 1233 1236 C2.3 130 1741 1756 1800 7640 N07E06 M1.5 SN 1822 1823 1823 130 2021 2025 2030 C1.0 170 POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 25 DECEMBER, 1993 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV 24/A2327 25/B1457 N11W40 DSF INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 25/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 24 Dec: 0324 0327 0329 B6.0 0333 0339 0345 B7.4 SF 7640 N07E27 0854 0859 0911 C2.7 SN 7640 N07E22 0923 0926 0928 C1.7 0946 0959 1001 C3.8 SN 7640 N07E20 B1151 1157 1215 SB 7640 N07E24 1208 1216 1221 C5.1 SF 7640 N08E22 1318 1319 A1328 SF 7635 N04W49 1322 1324 A1329 SF 7640 N08E26 1333 1341 1348 C2.5 SF 7640 N07E20 1411 1415 1425 C1.4 1631 1635 1640 C1.0 1725 1731 1735 C3.9 SN 7640 N06E17 1905 1910 1913 B8.9 2102 2109 2112 C1.8 SF 7640 N07E16 2115 2120 2122 C2.1 SF 7640 N06E15 2246 2249 2252 B6.7 2259 2303 2312 B7.1 2353 2357 0000 B9.1 SF 7640 N07E15 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7635: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 ( 4.8) Region 7640: 7 2 0 11 2 0 0 0 013 (61.9) Uncorrellated: 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 007 (33.3) Total Events: 021 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- 24 Dec: 0946 0959 1001 C3.8 SN 7640 N07E20 Continuum B1151 1157 1215 SB 7640 N07E24 Continuum 1208 1216 1221 C5.1 SF 7640 N08E22 III NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. 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South KEY: East and west limbs are to the left and right respectively. Emission strength, from minimum to maximum are coded in the following way: [space] . , : ; - + | ! 1 2 3 4 * # @ Units used are arbitrary, for illustrative purposes. Get "showasc.zip" from "pub/solar/Software" at the anonymous FTP site: ftp.uleth.ca (IP # 142.66.3.29) to view these images on VGA screens. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 93 19:19:54 GMT From: walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Good Stores/Mail Order/Emergency Use in Car - very long/rambling To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <CIn17z.BzA@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, david.k.kallman <dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wrote: >Basically, I'm totally sold on going with amateur radio for >my needs (this is a highly personal decision - I must, must >be very clear about this). The support and detailed >answers from the dedicated people out there, the FAQ >files on the ARRL server, the knowledge that the whole >world is behind you in a very supportive way, some of the >unique applications available on amateur radio, plus being >a tinkerer by nature make amateur radio a win for me. > >Her brother was big into amateur radio, while they >were kids together, and my wife had a license herself many >years ago. I guess this is just old hat to her, but I'll >find that application that will get her involved too. >Note I'm speaking strictly for myself here, and don't >represent the views of my employeer. I note from your sig file that you work for AT&T. Most AT&T locations also have an active Ham club and sometimes a permanent club station in the building. There's a very active club in the Whippany AT&T location. >So now it's time to hit the books! My biggest challenge >over the next month is going to keep my 12 year old away >from the ham radio books. He's a bigger electronic junkie >than I am, but he has a big school project over the next >month that he has to stay really focused on. Why note study together, say 1/2 hour a day as a break from that school project...all three of you...your son, your wife and you. Then you can all go take the test as a family event. Many, many 12 year olds have passed the Novice AND Technician tests. If your son is into science, computers, etc. he'll be able to study and understand the theory and regulations without any real problems. Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:52:10 GMT From: usc.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help on USA Ham-prefix ! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <CI116J.M1@news.ci.ua.pt> etjfonte@ci.ua.pt (J.FONTE) writes: > Hello , tanks for reading ... Is there anyone who could explain me how >do american ham see the difference on Callsigns ??? > > For exemp.: In Spain the prefixs are given by zone > > EA1...-North West Spain > EA8...-Canary Isl. > EA9...-Ceuta & Mellila > ++++++ more ... > > QUESTION: what's the difference between prefix N0... or WA2.. > > what does the N or W or K mean ???? Well the US callsign zones work similarly to yours. There are 10 geographic zones 0 through 9. These zones aren't all the same size. For example the 8 zone is the state of Ohio while the 4 zone is all of the southeastern United States. Zones 1, 2, and 3, are in the northeastern US, zone 5 is in the southwestern US, zone 6 is California, zone 7 is the Pacific northwest, zone 9 Indiana and Illinois, and zone 0 is the central plains states. Hawaii is KH6 and Alaska is KL7. Now the N, K, and W are prefixes assigned to the US, like EA is assigned to Spain. We also have part of the A prefix block. In the beginning the FCC assigned W calls, so a W4QO call would be a real oldtimer (That's an inside joke, the FCC for a brief time allowed hams to pick their own calls from the expired list and Jim got a good one). When they ran out of 1x2 W calls, they went to 1x3 W calls, and when they ran out of those, they went to 1x2 then 1x3 K calls such as K4NNN (Chuck's a friend who gave me my Novice exam many years ago). Finally, when they ran out of the K calls they went to 2x3 calls starting with WA, for example I used to hold WA4VJZ when I was a General. There was a special WN call prefix for Novices, for example my Novice call was WN4OAA. That was all before 1968. After 1968's Incentive Licensing debacle, things got weird. Extras got 2x1 calls, Advanced got 2x2 calls, Generals, Techs, and Novices got 2x3 calls, and N and A call blocks started being used. Now in many call zones we've run out of 2x1 calls so Extras get 2x2 calls, and 2x2 is running out in some places, etc. Plus, the FCC said we could keep our old calls when we moved to another zone or changed license class. Originally if I moved from one call zone to another I had to get a new call in my license class with that zone number, but not anymore. So now someone with a 2 call could live in the 4 zone, or someone with a 4 call could live in the 7 zone. It's all very confusing. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 14:10:52 GMT From: usc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU!clh6w@network.ucsd.edu Subject: QSL Route for XF4CI ??? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu QSL route for XF4CI is XE1CI. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1993 23:34:46 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu Subject: was waivers To: info-hams@ucsd.edu jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) says: [I said] >> This is pure baloney. CW has never been obsolete. You may not like >> contesting, but for every phone contest there is a CW contest. >Perhaps he meant "obsolete outside ham radio". It's not likely that you >will find a use for Morse code that's (a) not just a licensing requirement, >like the code requirement for some commercial licenses, or (b) incapable >of being replaced by a newer mode which is easier, faster, or both. When there is a newer, faster, easier mode I expect to use it, so long as it's a mode that I can use to communicate with the majority of hams worldwide - I'm not aware of one at the moment. >> The best contesters are not interested in using obsolete modes, >> so why do these contests still exist and generate so much activity? >Isn't this a circular argument? Couldn't you just as well say that Morse >is obsolete and the best contesters use Morse, and therefore the best >contesters use obsolete modes? And isn't your definition of "best" >presupposing the use of Morse? No, not really. On the contest reflector where those interested in contests gather, we don't have any of this "CW is good vs obsolete" discussion. The best contesters win phone or CW contests, whichever they choose to enter, and usually it's the very same people. Most contesters would like to see more contests during the year (I realize that non-contesters disagree...) but I have never heard anyone ask seriously for an AM contest, or for a DXpedition to go on the air using AM. Same with spark, I guess - and older hams can get quite sentimental about that. I have no problem with someone giving CW a serious try and then deciding that they don't like it (others do the same with RTTY or phone), but it annoys me (really, 'saddens' is the word) when someone who has not given it a fair try says "of course, we know that morse is obsolete and only used for sentimental reasons". We don't "know" that at all. I'm not sure what is supposed to have happened in the last quarter-century that has made CW so "old-fashioned" in some people's minds - i.e. since SSB took over from AM. There are some interesting modes and techniques out there, but for the vast majority of active hams, they are not yet in common use. I'll give them a fair trial when they are. Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392) oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 23:53:41 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1993Dec23.142146.22059@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: > In article <CURRAN.93Dec22104248@corona.med.utah.edu> curran@corona.med.utah.edu (Mark Curran) writes: > >How about the opposite side of this argument. I.E. why should one need > >to know EE theory to upgrade from general to advanced and advanced to > >extra? While homebrewing is a vibrant part of the service, in these > >days of mass marketed radios, it is not essential. How about rewarding > >operating practice and amature service as an alternative method of > >upgrade. (Impracticality arguments welcome). > > Well the amateur service requires that operators know enough regulations > and radio theory to adjust their transmitters so that they operate legally. > Amateurs are unique in being given blanket authority to make internal > adjustments to their transmitters. The FCC wants assurance that they > have an inkling of what they are doing. Thus the written exams on theory > and regulations. In point of fact, there's no reason whatsoever for > the Advanced or Extra class to exist. They serve no useful purpose since > Generals and Techs need the same knowledge. That's not quite true: as someone else has pointed out, three of the five reasons given in the regulations for the amateur service to exist involve technical expertise. In addition, amateur radio has from time to time advanced the state of the art in communications technology. It is certainly worthwhile to reward technical knowledge, even if the reward is only a few kHz of spectrum. I'll abstain on the question of whether 20wpm code speed is worth any reward, at least until I pass the test :-). The Advanced and Extra tests do include questions on some modes that aren't covered by the Tech/General tests. Hopefully, this means that Advanced and Extra class amateurs will actually understand the equipment they're using. It also provides more people to help the less technically-inclined amateurs, so they don't all have to rely on Gary :-). -- Bruce Toback KN6MN ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1511 ****************************** ******************************