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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1503
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Info-Hams Digest Fri, 24 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1503
Today's Topics:
AOR AR-2500 Experiences anyone?
Call Book Server
FTP Site/E-Skip Data Base+TV stations E.Coast
Ham ticket
I'm a "young" enthusiast...
Is SAREX still being planned (2 msgs)
License
Morse Code blues
need comments on DJ-560T
Need IC2SRA Reviews NOW!
Optimum call sign for CW/contests?
QHH
REPEATER DATABASE?
W3EAX World Wide Web Server
What lice. do I need for Ham-radio?
Where are all the young enthusiasts?
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 15:55:38 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!yuma!galen@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: AOR AR-2500 Experiences anyone?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
After seeing the ads and calling to get the fax, the ACE Communications
AR-2500 wide range receiver is looking pretty good, with computer operation
software and an RS-232 port, not to mention the $450 pricetag.
Has anyone out there bought or seen one? I have the tech specs, but how does
it really do? I'm interested in any opinions on the BFO for SSB and how well
that performs, how well it's put together and, of course, any mods.
Galen, KF0YJ
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Date: 23 Dec 1993 15:47:46 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!transfer.stratus.com!hoop.sw.stratus.com!northup@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Call Book Server
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
jlw3@cec3.wustl.edu (Jesse L Wei) writes:
: Ted Thompson (tedt@halcyon.com) wrote:
: : roakley@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
:
: this last period will tend to screw things up--it's node 2000 of the host;
: i.e. "telnet callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:
?? what is a node on the host ??
What the command is doing is telling the system to use telnet and connect to
the machine "callsign.cs.buffalo.edu" and connect to the TCP port # 2000.
--
##############################################################################
Bill Northup PHONE: (508) 490-2085
Stratus Computer Inc.
55 Fairbanks Boulevard INTERNET: northup@sw.stratus.com
Marlboro, MA 01752 OR: northup@Vos.Stratus.com
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Date: 23 Dec 1993 16:53:43 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!skates.gsfc.nasa.gov!bolt.gsfc.nasa.gov!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FTP Site/E-Skip Data Base+TV stations E.Coast
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Just set up temporary FTP site for Ham Radio, NASA Safety(Most to be pass
worded),Safety documents, My geneology, and Ethnic Stuff. FTP anonymous to
ELSEN.GSFC.NASA.GOV. Likely down between 4PM to 730AM for now! Also site
name will change in time, will post here.GOOD LUCK & MERRY XMAS Dick
--
ARS W1DGA on HF and VHF / UHF
Researching Family Names:Fathers Side of OHIO, Canada, & England:
BOLT,(BALKWILL/BARKWELL/BALKWELL/BARKWILL);CROSS;(GARRAW/GARROW/GARREAU/GARRAH);(GANYON/GAGNON);ROCKEY;FISHLEIGH;BOWMAN.
Mothers Side:CLARK;BUXTON;PRATT;PADDLEFORD;WALKER;FRENCH;GOULDING;
BRIGHAM;BROOKS;(CLISBORN/CLISBEE); PRENTICE. All of New England.
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Date: 23 Dec 93 13:08:46 EST
From: europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu!miavx1!miavx3@library.ucla.edu
Subject: Ham ticket
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <9312172309.A8344wk@hofbbs.com>, artie.uberti@hofbbs.com writes:
>
> DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF FCC HAS STOPPED PROCESSING LICENSES. I AM STILL
> WAITING SINCE 11/9/93 FOR MY TICKET TO ARRIVE AND I AM GROWING IMPATIENT.
> ALL REPLIES WELCOME!!!
> 73
>
It's highly unlikely that the FCC has suspended operations. More likely,
though, is that your application is in process and will be acted upon
when its turn comes.
As for your wait, some folks have waited 16-18 weeks for their license;
too, some have arrived in just four weeks. As I recall seeing here, 8-9
weeks comes closer to being the norm.
One of these days it'll arrive .... and when it does, it will be good for
ten years.
73 & Welcome to Ham Radio
Carl >< K8NHE
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 22:35:21 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hpldsla!brunob@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: I'm a "young" enthusiast...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
You are mazochistic ego-maniac, like myself and rest of us.
First licensed in 1937 at the age of 7, with 18 call-signes so far from
12 different countries, 4 continents and still love it.
from the log of AA6AD
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 13:05:12 GMT
From: mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Is SAREX still being planned
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article jm4@news.u.washington.edu, xile@hardy.u.washington.edu (Roberto Camama) writes:
}I've been out of touch with the SAREX experiments and whether or not they
}are still being planned for future shuttle flights. Are more SAREX-carrying
}shuttle flights being arranged, and if so, when are they due to take place?
}
}Thanx,
}R. Camama
}
Yes - STS60 will carry SAREX. -Bruce, WB4YUC
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 14:46:58 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!afterlife!admii!ovation!ramcad.pica.army.mil!mellis@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Is SAREX still being planned
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2fbnm8$jm4@news.u.washington.edu>,
Roberto Camama <xile@hardy.u.washington.edu> wrote:
>I've been out of touch with the SAREX experiments and whether or not they
>are still being planned for future shuttle flights. Are more SAREX-carrying
>shuttle flights being arranged, and if so, when are they due to take place?
Indeed they are, and on a continuing basis. There's a strong ham contingent in
the astronaut corps, and they think SAREX is good stuff - which is the best
insurance we can get.
The next SAREX mission is the next shuttle mission, STS-60. Charlie Bolden,
the commander, has passed his Tech test, and is expected to get his ticket in
before the launch, and Sergei Krikalyev, U5MIR, will also be on this one. The
launch is currently scheduled for late January, but may slip some more.
--
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Date: 20 Dec 93 20:23:42 GMT
From: news.ans.net!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!yktnews.watson.ibm.com!rs47445!xzs1947@nyu.arpa
Subject: License
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
You will probably find many more answers in rec.radio.amateur.misc. It is much
more active than this one.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 13:03:44 GMT
From: mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Morse Code blues
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article 1nw@ryn.mro4.dec.com, randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) writes:
}
}In article <2f7ujfINNdsr@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu>, cbr600@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeremy Utley) writes...
}>I put the QRS in there so hams would know I had trouble copying code, and would
}>send slower. I did that about 3 times, and this guy comes back at about 18 wpm
}>all I could catch was N0YAX DE and from there lost it totally.
}
}Yah, I don't get on HF much, due to lack of equipment, but I got in one CW QSO a
}couple of weeks ago at a friend's station. During the ten minute QSO, we had
}some guy tune up on our freq, two other guys jump in at about 30 WPM right
}on top of us, and ultimately had to sign with each other over two or three guys
}holding the key down on our freq. Nice, real nice.
}-Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com
It's too bad we have such bone heads, that too is one of the things that
fries my gizzard. I generally try to get the offenders callsign and send them
a nasty-QSL; Not that it does any good, but I feel better afterward.
Bruce, WB4YUC
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Date: 13 Dec 93 18:28:56 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!fuug!krk!krkmoon.krk.fi!squrppi@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: need comments on DJ-560T
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Jerry Sy (ah301@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
: I am thinking of buying the Alinco DJ-560T HT now on closeout for $300.
: I'd like to get comments from 560 owners and anybody else on what you
: like and dislike about this unit.
I used that one while my 580 was broken. It's a good one, though I
didn't like its keys, especially the PTT. They are too thin.. After a few
minutes QSO my finger was tired to hold the PTT.. This doesn't happen with
580. It has all the basic features and some more, not very beautiful
but operates well.
: The DJ-580 in now selling for $380, is the $80 difference worth it ?
I think it is. The 580 is newer and more comfortable to operate.
--
Connect 3141592653590/V93Ter/LapLAND/Mnp666/Vryfast
squrppi@krk.fi
OH2KEA (KP 20 KF)
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Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:04:36 GMT
From: swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!spikes@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Need IC2SRA Reviews NOW!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Ok, I've been a real humbug this year when my wife asks what toy I want
for Xmas. She is now promising to buy me a power tool for more Honey-Do's.
ANYTHING but that. In 73 mag, Icom had to go and put ad for their IC2SRA
2 meter/25-9xxMhz handi-toy. Any reviews been done on this? Better yet,
anybody own one. ANY comments? Please help! I don't want any more house
projects!!!! Yeah, I know I shoulda done this last month......
Thanks,
Bill
WB6RZG
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:55:40 GMT
From: mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Optimum call sign for CW/contests?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article Ft7@netcom.com, fmitch@netcom.com (Felton Mitchell) writes:
}Jeremy Remer (jremer@ub.d.umn.edu) wrote:
}: >>The fastest, i.e. shortest,good callsignfor CW contesting would
}: >>certainly be N5EA.
}: >
}: >No. The best callsign for CW contesting would be KZ1O.
-Bless You
}
}i like symetrical (sp?) calls... calls with...
} os rk bv an ...
}
}or, semi-symetrical, like mine... wa4osr
}
The best one I have come across, and its real(!) is
VE4VV
That was a real kicker at 40wpm.
Bruce, WB4YUC, el YUCCO. . .
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 15:32:22 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!att-out!cbfsb!cbnews!cbnewst!cbnewsm!gdo%aloft.att.com@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: QHH
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I heard a guy promoting the use of the Q signal QHH some time ago. He
came up with it and has been using it as a shorthand for "Happy Holidays".
It's a lot shorter on CW, especially for us slow-pokes! I kinda like it
so I'm helping him promote it.
73 es QHH de N3BDA
--
Glenn D. O'Donnell, N3BDA Internet: gdo@aloft.att.com
AT&T Bell Laboratories Amateur Radio: n3bda@n3dpu.#epa.pa.usa.na
Allentown, PA Home QTH: Palmerton, PA (Grid FN20eu)
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 16:34:40 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: REPEATER DATABASE?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
bill.feidt@his.com wrote:
>Still, the ARRL seemingly must have the consolidated data in machine
>readable form prior to creating the printed version. If they were
>able to obtain whatever copyright is required to publish the printed
>version, might they not also obtain permission to create and sell a
>machine readable (MR) version? Production costs for a MR version ought
>to be less than those for the printed version, I would think. If they
>could sell an MR version for anything near the very reasonable cost of
>the printed version, it should be very popular. --Bill, NG3K
Better yet, they could give it away, as they do with the net directory.
The net directory isn't in the best of formats (pretty much a copy of the
printed version, rather than a database), but it can be read. I've found
it useful. One of these days I'll get around to putting it into a dBase or
tab-delimited format and uploading it somewhere. Has someone done that
already?
--
----------------------------------------------------
Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA
jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na
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Date: 13 Dec 93 23:40:26 GMT
From: olivea!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!lynx!chaos.dac!wy1z@uunet.uu.net
Subject: W3EAX World Wide Web Server
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2eeu8u$477@mojo.eng.umd.edu> tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
Path: lynx!noc.near.net!saturn.caps.maine.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!news.bu.edu!olivea!charnel!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!tedwards
From: tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 12 Dec 1993 11:11:26 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Lines: 18
References: <2eb9f8$2rj@hecate.umd.edu> <jfhCHvtFy.M1L@netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pipa.src.umd.edu
In article <jfhCHvtFy.M1L@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>tedwards@w3eax.umd.edu (Thomas N3HAU) wrote:
>>W3EAX, The University of Maryland Amateur Radio Club is running
>>a World Wide Web hypertext page at URL:
>> http://w3eax.umd.edu/w3eax.html
>It works with www but not with lynx. Any idea why?
I'll have to take a look at it. Pehrpas we are not as
exacting with the HTML as we should be. It does work
if you telnet to info.cern.ch and go to our URL (info.cern.ch
has temporarily moved to nxoc01.cern.ch though). That
is the WWW LineMode Browser version 1.4a.
-Thomas
N3HAU
I'd like to get into WWW. Where and how do I start?
Thanks.
--
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| Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@k1cf.ma.usa.na |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: 20 Dec 93 22:08:36 GMT
From: gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!rpal.rockwell.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!nstn.ns.ca!psinntp!psinntp!ejv.com!schang@rutgers.rutgers.edu
Subject: What lice. do I need for Ham-radio?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am thinking of getting a Radio-Shack 2m UHF Hand-held transceiver. What
kind of lice. do I need? and How to get one? Do I need the equipment first or
I can get the lice. firsrt? How much does the lice. cost? Finally, what is
the effective distance for this type of equipment or for this specific model?
--
<bold><italic>
schang@ejv.com Voice:(212)2147102 Fax:(212)2147275
</italic></bold>
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Date: 23 Dec 1993 16:39:17 GMT
From: swrinde!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news.provo.novell.com!park.uvsc.edu!u.cc.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!curran@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Thanks for your reply Gary. It seems that we agree on the major points.
To clarify, I hold a general class ticket, and have not upgraded simply
because I have not been active since entering Grad school, and quite
simply have not needed the extra [sic] bandspace of the upper two license
classes.
My last comments on this thread. Gary is absolutely correct that one should
ensure that his/her signal is clean, and that operation is lawful. No
argument there at all. My point, is that the difference in privledges from
general to extra is small in relation to the effort to upgrade. That is why
I suggested some measure of Amateur service, which is theoretically why
we have Amateur radio in the first place. (Well that sounds too much like
griping, which is not it's intent)
As for youth joining the Amateur ranks, I think that exposure is the only
way. Consider being a true elmer, i.e. open your shack and help put
people on the air. At the very least, help your local club with CW
classes or whatever. BTW, in relation to another ongoing thread, it wouldn't
hurt if older hams would occaisionaly pass through the novice CW/HF freqs.
I recall calling on 10 and 15M for some time without answer, and I had 7
and 6 element yagis at ~160 ft. Radio gets pretty boring if there is no one
to talk with.
Best Holidays all,
MarK KA1ODA/7
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
1994 SAREX FLIGHTS
Mission Date Length Ham Crew Inclination Config. Op. Modes
_______________________________________________________________________________
STS-60/Spacehab 1/27 8 day Charlie Bolden, TBD 57 C FM Voice
Discovery Sergei Krikalev, U5MIR Packet
STS-59/SRL-1 4/1 9 day Jay Apt, N5QWL 57 C FM Voice
Columbia Linda Godwin, N5RAX Packet
STS-67/ASTRO-2 11/3 13 day Ron Parise, WA4SIR 28.5 ?? Not yet
Columbia
Use Mosaic for X/win3.1/Mac or Lynx (curses) to access this Web Server.
.... Mark E. Ellis <mellis@ramcad.pica.army.mil>
N2WZB
PA&TD Workplace Automation Group
Picatinny Arsenal, NJ
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Date: 13 Dec 93 23:18:26 GMT
From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <DTD8Dc3w165w@mystis.wariat.org>, <2ear03$ssg@panix.com>, <1993Dec13.170402.29209@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>gtefsd
Subject : Re: ARRL's callsign admin position
In article <1993Dec13.170402.29209@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <2ear03$ssg@panix.com> kb7uv@panix.com (Andrew Funk) writes:
>>
>>Steve also has an active division "cabinet" made up of all division-level
>>appointees, SMs, section-level appointees, and selected others. Before
>>each ARRL board meeting he holds a division cabinet meeting to determine
>>the position of the division. Quite a number of ARRL Board policies come
>>from these meetings, as Steve brings *into* the boardroom the desires and
>>opinions of the membership in the Hudson Division.
>
>This is a perfect example of the old boy network in action. The "cabinet"
>is composed of Steve's appointees. Naturally they reflect his own views
Please reread the text above, Gary. You missed something. Among the list of
people who are part of the division cabinet are Section Managers (SMs). The
SM is an ELECTED position. Elect someone as your SM who will represent
your views, just as you would want to elect someone for Director who
reflects your views.
I ran for and won the SM job in Western Massachusetts. The previous SM
never even went to the cabinet meetings. Oh, and out director also
invites the president (*or representative) of affiliated clubs. Again
people who are ELECTED, not appointed.
>to a large extent. While the intent may be to keep a large number of eyes
>and ears out in the division, and that's good, the result is often, though
>not certain in this particular case, to be more of an amen chorus from
>the choir. The current field organization is machine politics at its
>most raw.
>
>The problem with the League structure as I see it is that it's a
>one party state controlled mainly by the apparatchiki. It needs a
>strong loyal opposition to keep it vigorous and honest. I think
>more directors would help, and directors drawn not just on geographic
>sections but also from interest groups in amateur radio. If we had
>a director from the DX community, a director from the packet community,
>a director from the repeater community, etc in addition to the geographic
>sections, we'd likely get a more responsive organization. I also think
There are committees with these charters, and each director appoints
people to those commitees. If you think the digital committee needs your
particular talents, CALL your director and volunteer to serve on a
committee or two.
>it would be good if members of the field organization were also elected
>by the groups they would serve, IE traffic people would select their
>managers etc. This happens to an extent informally now, but I think
>it should be more of a formalized "merit board" type of thing to
>reduce the machine politics in the present field organization.
>(Lord knows though that it's hard enough to find *any* volunteers
>to take some of these jobs.)
>
>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
>Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
>534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
Dan N1JEB (SM WMA)
--
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Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
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