Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 07:04:04 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1490 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Tue, 21 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1490 Today's Topics: "Re: Long-play recording" Arizona repeater info needed ARLB117 FCC CALL SIGN UPDATE Calculating SWR Ham Radio Clip Art Ham ticket How to find the answers to frequently-asked questions about Ham Radio scanner use in vehicles Tokyo Hy-Power's 3-band SSB/CW Handheld what was the telnet address for the ham/call database?? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 02:06:07 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!fmitch@decwrl.dec.com Subject: "Re: Long-play recording" To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Robert Carpenter (rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV) wrote: : I've been making unattended HiFi recordings of up to 8-hour duration for : some 8 years now. The secret is VHS HiFi. Just plug your audio into the : external audio input (eliminate the TVI) and you're on your way. The : cheaper VHS HiFi VCRs have automatic volume control on the audio, I got one : with manual audio gain because my application is musical recording. I : normally use T-120 cassettes at the 6-hour speed ($7.97 for 3 at Giant), but : use T-160 ($9.99 for 4 at Price Club) to get 8 hours. : 73, Bob w3otc@amsat.org i use an old rca vcr whose video head is bad... it has a 7 day timer... i used it to capture weather satellite audio during the times i couldn't be at the computer... the specs on the audio channel are fantastic... cd quality... my unit has audio agc and manual input level adjustment for each audio channel... check with a vcr repair shop... they usually have a few old units lying around whose video heads are bad consequently they are not worth fixing... i got my unit for free that way... mitch, wa4osr -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fmitch@netcom.com Felton "Mitch" Mitchell, WA4OSR in Mobile, Alabama USA 205-342-7259 home, 205-476-4100 work, 205-476-0465 FAX co-sysop for W4IAX bbs running fbb ... sysop for WA4OSR DXCluster in Mobile.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 02:36:01 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!al602@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Arizona repeater info needed To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In a previous article, paulc@fc.hp.com (Paul Christofanelli) says: >Hello all, > >...I've heard of the Northlink system, and ZIA. Do either of >these get into Phoenix? It appears from the repeater directory that Zia >does, but I don't think it covers northern Arizona. On the other hand, >Northlink might not get into Phoenix. > ZIA-link does get into Phoenix. However, it is not always "up." Lately, it seems to be down more often, at least here in Arizona. ZIA covers the southwest from California through Arizona and New Mexico to West Texas. It seems pieces are up but not necessarily all the links. I'm afraid I can't help you with Northlink. -- Regards, | Reply to: al602@freenet.carleton.ca Jim. | Ham Call: WA9QYC Tucson, AZ | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 02:48:44 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!marcbg@decwrl.dec.com Subject: ARLB117 FCC CALL SIGN UPDATE To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB QST @ ARL $ARLB117 ARLB117 FCC CALL SIGN UPDATE ZCZC AG59 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 117 ARLB117 >From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT December 20, 1993 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB117 ARLB117 FCC CALL SIGN UPDATE FCC ISSUED CALL SIGN UPDATE The following is a list of the FCC's most recently issued call signs as of December 1. District Group A Group B Group C Group D Extra Advanced Tech/Gen Novice 0 AA0PO KG0KD N0ZLM KB0LMX 1 AA1IB KD1SQ N1QWR KB1BEQ 2 AA2QQ KF2SX N2XFU KB2QQJ 3 AA3GP KE3LH N3QZL KB3AZK 4 AD4NS KR4IY ++ KE4HYT 5 AB5RK KJ5TG ++ KC5EIK 6 AB6YW KN6VX ++ KE6DOF 7 AB7AI KI7TW ++ KB7ZRB 8 AA8NJ KG8FM ++ KB8QOW 9 AA9JM KF9SP N9VPC KB9IWA Hawaii ++ AH6NE WH6QL WH6CRB Alaska ++ AL7PL WL7OW WL7CHJ Virgin Is. WP2D KP2CC NP2GU WP2AHU Puerto Rico ++ KP4VZ ++ WP4MLZ ++All call signs in this group have been issued in this area. NNNN /EX -- Marc Grant marcbg@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Dec 93 19:58:21 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!myers@hplabs.hp.com Subject: Calculating SWR To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Ronald D. Erickson (rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote: > SWR is really the same as power factor. It is either > voltage leading or lagging current in RF transmission > situations. Sometimes hams use a 52 or 50-ohm dummy load > resistor to verify how close to perfect they have tuned > their antenna on low power. The idea is to try to stay below > 2 to 1 or 2.5 to 1 Voltage Standing Wave Radio. > 73, > Ron > AK0N > rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu Completely, totally, absolutely, INCORRECT. But thanks for playing! How could SWR and PF be the same? SWR *cannot* be less than 1.000:1, while PF *cannot* be greater than 1.000. Further, your assertion tha SWR is somehow related to voltage vs. current phase would imply that it is impossible to acheive other than a perfect 1:1 SWR with a purely resistive load, which is most definitely not the case. I'd go ahead and post the real definition of SWR, but I see that this has already been done MUCH earlier. Bob Myers KC0EW Hewlett-Packard Co. |Opinions expressed here are not Advanced Systems Div. |those of my employer or any other myers@fc.hp.com Fort Collins, Colorado |sentient life-form on this planet. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 20:37:30 MST From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ham Radio Clip Art To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am in the process of creating my own QSL cards. Does anyone know of anyplace to obtain ham radio related clip art? david wb7tpy --- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135 Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 23:09:11 From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!iat.holonet.net!hofbbs!artie.uberti@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ham ticket To: info-hams@ucsd.edu DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF FCC HAS STOPPED PROCESSING LICENSES. I AM STILL WAITING SINCE 11/9/93 FOR MY TICKET TO ARRIVE AND I AM GROWING IMPATIENT. ALL REPLIES WELCOME!!! 73 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 93 02:44:05 GMT From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!rtech!amdahl!thunder!ikluft@network.ucsd.edu Subject: How to find the answers to frequently-asked questions about Ham Radio To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Posted-By: auto-faq 3.1.1.4 Archive-name: ham-faq-ptr How to find the Rec.radio.amateur.misc Frequently Asked Questions list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This article will tell you how to find the answers to frequently-asked Questions (FAQ) from rec.radio.amateur.misc. The FAQ articles are posted on the 7th of each month. This article is posted on the 14th, 21st, and 28th of every month as a reminder of where to find the FAQ. The FAQ articles are intended to summarize some common questions on the rec.radio.amateur.misc newsgroup and Info-Hams mail list as well as to help beginners get started. Besides the monthly posting, the FAQ is always available via anonymous FTP and from e-mail servers. This article contains instructions for obtaining a copy of the FAQ. It also contains the table of contents from the FAQ so that you know which questions are covered by it. Please provide a copy of the FAQ to any new or soon-to-be Hams you know. Regular FAQ postings can help save network bandwidth and maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio in the newsgroup. However, they can't do it alone - you, the reader, have to use them. If you are a new user, please print and review the FAQ articles and look at the instructions in the news.newusers newsgroup before posting any articles. If you are an experienced user, please help by refraining from answering frequently-asked questions on the newsgroup if they are already answered by the FAQ articles. Instead, send e-mail to the user who asked the question. (It will be helpful if you include the part of the FAQ that answers their question, but not the whole thing.) --How to obtain a current copy of the FAQ------------------------------------- There are 3 ways to obtain a copy of the FAQ. 1) NetNews 2) Anonymous FTP 3) An Electronic Mail Server Option #1: NetNews ------------------ If you are familiar enough with NetNews to look through previous articles on your system, Option #1 above may be the easiest for you. The FAQ is posted so that it should not expire from your site's news spool until the next one is posted. Unfortunately, some news administrators do not honor the expiration dates meant to preserve the FAQ. Look in rec.radio.amateur.misc, rec.radio.info, rec.answers, or news.answers. If the FAQ has expired at your site, try Option #2 (and ask your news administrator to honor expiration dates for articles cross-posted to news.answers if he/she can.) Option #2: Anonymous FTP ------------------------ Anonymous FTP uses the File Transfer Protocol. It is only available to sites which are directly connected to the Internet. If you don't know how to use FTP and can't find a friend to help you, continue to Option #3. If your site is not connected to the Internet, you should also continue to Option #3. The following sites have copies of the FAQ: site name & address path to FAQ articles ------------------- -------------------- ftp.amdahl.com pub/radio/amateur/faq.[1-3].Z located in western USA, FAQ updated daily ftp.cs.buffalo.edu pub/ham-radio/faq_ham_[1-3] located in eastern USA, FAQ updated monthly rtfm.mit.edu pub/usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/faq/part* located in eastern USA, FAQ updated monthly contains news.answers archive - most UseNet FAQs are here grivel.une.edu.au pub/ham-radio/buffalo/ham-radio/faq_ham_[1-3] located in Australia, FAQ updated monthly (Ham files mirrored from buffalo/funet/ucsd daily) nic.funet.fi pub/ham/info/faq_ham_[1-3] located in Finland, FAQ updated monthly Remember, when connecting to the remote system, use the login name of "anonymous" and, as a courtesy to the site administrators, your e-mail address for the password. Option #3: Electronic Mail Server --------------------------------- If you can't use Options 1 or 2, your only remaining option is electronic mail. You can retreive a copy of the FAQ by sending a message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu The body of your mail will contain a command for the mail server software. To get all of the FAQ (consisting of 70K of e-mail in 3 parts), place the following in the first line of your message: send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/faq/* Leave out the subject of your message because the mail server will ignore it. --- begin sample mail message --- To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu From: me@here.org Date: Mon Aug 14 22:27:33 PDT 1995 send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/faq/* --- end sample mail message --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Table of Contents ----------------- Dates indicate last modification. Part 1 - Introduction to the FAQ and Amateur Radio ** Table of Contents (6/93) ** Introduction to the FAQ (11/92) * How to Contribute to the FAQ Articles (6/93) * Acknowledgements (6/93) * Notes on "Netiquette" (1/93) ** What is Amateur Radio? (11/92) ** Who can become a ham? (6/93) ** Where can I locate information and books on Amateur Radio? (9/93) ** How much does it cost? (9/92) ** Where can I take the tests? (9/93) ** What are the tests like? (6/93) ** What can I do with a ham radio license? (5/92) ** What can't I do with an Amateur Radio license? (pre-4/92) ** I'm interested, who will help me? (11/92) ** Should I build my own equipment or antenna? (11/92) Part 2 - Amateur Radio Organizations, Services, and Information Sources ** Where can I find Ham Radio information with a computer? (11/92) * The rec.radio.* newsgroups (6/93) * The ARRL e-mail server (1/93) * The KA6ETB e-mail "HAM-server" (new 9/93) * The Internet File Transfer Protocol (FTP) (9/93) * Access to FTP archives via electronic mail (1/93) * The Ham-Radio mail list: rec.radio.amateur.misc by mail (9/93) * Telephone BBS's with Ham-related information (9/93) * Callsign servers and geographical name servers (11/92) * FTP access to FCC Part 97 and FCC Amateur Radio question pools (9/93) * Lists of radio modifications and extensions (11/92) ** Can I send ARRL or W5YI electronic mail? (11/92) ** "Why doesn't the ARRL do...?" (11/92) ** What magazines are available for Ham Radio? (pre-4/92) ** How do I use the incoming and outgoing QSL bureau? (11/92) ** Are there any news groups for CAP? (11/92) ** What's the name of the QRP club that issues QRP numbers? (9/93) ** How do I become a 10-10 member? (9/93) ** How do I join MARS? (9/93) ** How do I join RACES? (pre-4/92) ** What organizations are available to help handicapped hams? (pre-4/92) ** I am looking for a specific ham, can anyone help me find him? (6/93) ** Can I post my neat new ham related program on rec.radio.amateur.misc? (pre-4/92) ** Where can I get ham radio software for my computer? (9/93) ** Are there Dialup News services or BBSs for Amateur Radio? (4/92) ** Where can I find VE sessions in my local area? (9/93) ** Why isn't XXX available electronically? (4/92) Part 3 - Amateur Radio Advanced and Technical Questions ** What are the different US amateur classes and what can each of them do? (pre-4/92) ** What is the best way to learn Morse Code? (10/92) ** What is the standard for measuring Morse code speed? (pre-4/92) ** What is the standard phonetic alphabet? (new 9/93) ** I'm confused. What do all those abbreviations mean??? (6/93) ** What do all those "tones" mean? (pre-4/92) ** Where can I learn more about Amateur Radio if I live outside the US? (9/93) ** How can I get a "reciprocal license" if I am a licensed ham from another country or if I am a FCC licensed ham who wants to operate in another country (on vacation)? (9/93) ** My apartment or housing complex does not allow outdoor antennas, now what do I do? (9/93) ** I got TVI...HELP!!! (9/93) ** Did you know that you can get college credit for being a ham? (pre-4/92) ** On what frequencies do JPL and GSFC retransmit the shuttle audio? (10/92) ** Can I take my HT on an airplane and operate it if I get the permission of the captain? (4/92) ** How do I modify my current Amateur license? (9/93) ** I'm confused about XXX, should I ask the FCC? (9/93) ** Is there any information on antique radios? (pre-4/92) ** Where can I buy vacuum tubes? (9/93) ** What do I need to get started in packet radio? (9/93) ** What do I need to get started in satellite communications? (9/93) ** What is available to get started in ATV, SSTV and WEFAX? (9/93) ** What are these contests I sometimes hear, and how do I participate? (9/93) --Submitting changes for the FAQ---------------------------------------------- If you have comments or updates for the FAQ, send e-mail to hamradio-faq@amdahl.com This will send mail to all the people on the FAQ editorial review group. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 23:09:09 From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!iat.holonet.net!hofbbs!artie.uberti@network.ucsd.edu Subject: scanner use in vehicles To: info-hams@ucsd.edu AS FAR AS I KNOW, CERTAIN STATES DO NOT PERMIT SCANNERS ABLE TO RECEIVE POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY SIGNALS TO BE INSTALLED AS A MOBILE. IN ADDITION, IF YOU ARE A LISENCED HAM AND ARE USING A MOBILE SCANNER YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS RULE IN CERTAIN STATES. ALSO, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW IF YOU KNOWINGLY, ACT OR COMMIT A CRIME USING A SCANNER TO OBTAIN INFORMATION WHERE THE POLICE ARE DURING THE COMMISION OF A CRIME, YOU CAN BE CHARGE WITH AN ADDITIONAL OFFENSE AS SUCH. 73 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Dec 1993 02:29:28 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!udel!news.sprintlink.net!clark.net!andy@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Tokyo Hy-Power's 3-band SSB/CW Handheld To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Intrigued by above item. Anyone have one or seen one in action? -k4adl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 DEC 93 10:43:10 EST From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: what was the telnet address for the ham/call database?? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 or 128.205.32.2 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 16:23:57 GMT From: news.cstar.andersen.com!news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!gagme!n5ial!jim@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2er4on$f1b@wuecl.wustl.edu>, <CI6MLC.Iqo@world.std.com>, <2esi38$h6k@crchh941.bnr.ca>nwu. Subject : Re: Where are all the young enthusiasts? [ Note: original article reformatted to < 80 chars/line.... ] In article <2esi38$h6k@crchh941.bnr.ca> kharker@bnr.ca (Kenneth E. Harker) writes: > In fact, I can't imagine when, in the next five years or so, that I'll be > able to get my own real HF rig. It's just way too expensive. [ .... ] > Now, sure, someone can say that you can get on the air for <$100. But > what does that get you? A QRP CW-only kit with a homebrew antenna and a > straight key. While I am looking into this option as the only conceivable > way I'll have my own HF rig before 1998, this is not going to attract > young people to the hobby. And I have plenty of friends at school who > have trouble deciding if they can afford certain textbooks, much less > anything like radio. As at least one other person has said, you don't have to go out and buy the most expensive HF rig you see. :-) In fact, there's nothing that says you even have to buy a brand-new rig. My first HF rig was an old Galaxy V Mk 3. Here's the story..... I was home for vacation (Christmas break, in fact) from school, and one of the local hams (this was in San Antonio) heard that I was looking to upgrade to general (I was a tech), but that I didn't have an HF rig. He found out about this because I asked about details on where to either get a very inexpensive rig or get help building one. He wasn't too happy about the fact that I didn't have a rig, so he set out to ``solve'' this ``problem''. :-) Within 10 minutes, he'd found two people willing to donate gear. The first person who responded said he had an old military receiver that would at least get me started. The second person said that was nice, but he had an old Galaxy V that he'd sell to me for 25 cents. So I ``bought'' a Galaxy V Mk 3 for 25 cents (he could then tell his wife, ``yes, dear, I *SOLD* it!''). The only condition on that sale was that when I was done with the rig, I either return it to him, or preferably, pass it on to another new ham. You guessed it...I ``sold'' it for 25 cents. :-) And, of course, the same conditions applied there, too---he's going to eventually ``sell'' it...for 25 cents. Now, this may sound like an extreme example, but there are lots of old tube rigs out there, many of which are in pretty good shape. In fact, there are some tube rigs that I wouldn't mind having right now. I have a Kenwood TS-140S---it's a good rig, but somehow the old Collins and Drake rigs I remember using just, well, out-did it...don't ask me to explain it, because I can't. The same could be said for an old Heathkit HW-101 that I played with at one point (a friend from school and I made a temporary trade just to try the other's rig out...the day I had to give that HW-101 back was a dismal day). It was as stable as any synth rig I've seen, and the audio quality, both xmit and rcv, was out of this world. I don't know if this applies to all of the 101s, but it certainly did for that one! Look around. ASK AROUND! Let people know that you're looking for a rig that fits in with a college student's budget (i.e., it's virtually free), and that you just want to get on the air. Someone should be able to help you out. Oh, one last point. Don't expect to get all sorts of fancy filtering from an old, inexpensive tube rig. Don't worry about it, either. First, your ears will develop to the point where you'll be able to pick out even the weakest sigs from the noise (I got really good at this, and when I'd go to the Texas A&M club station, W5AC, I'd easily work people who others in the shack couldn't even hear at all, even with all of the fancy filtering on the TS-930 that was there at the time). Second, you can always build your own filters and add them as outboard units. Op amps are dirt-cheap, and a +12/-12 VDC power supply isn't *THAT* expensive to build, either.... Just be careful about the voltage levels going to the (external) speaker on the tube rigs---you may need to add some level conversions (I did with the Galaxy). Later, --jim -- #include <std_disclaimer.h> 73 DE N5IAL (/4) -------------------------< Running Linux 0.99 PL10 >-------------------------- Internet: jim@n5ial.mythical.com | j.graham@ieee.org ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W Amateur Radio: (packet station temporarily offline) AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 16:41:30 GMT From: news.cstar.andersen.com!news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!gagme!n5ial!jim@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <drew.95.0@trl.oz.au>, <SDS.93Dec17000051@cslab9f.cs.brown.edu>, <2es5k1$ldr@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>ews.a Subject : Re: Where are all the young enthusiasts? Sorry if this is a bit terse---there's a thunderstorm on its way, and here on the island, we have power failures every time the wind blows...not to mention thunderstorms. I've got to be shutdown when the power starts to fluctuate..... (No, I can't afford a UPS yet, even at $100 US.) In article <2es5k1$ldr@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> elendir@enst.fr () writes: >Scott Swanson (sds@cs.brown.edu) wrote: >: I'm 20. Is that young enough to fit in with the "young enthusiast" > And I am 24. I'm 27 (almost 28)...guess I'm the OF here. :-) >: So why did I pick up my ticket? What's in it for me, especially since >... >: (1) Emergency service. Maybe I'm weird, but I *like* public service, > > I don't think it's a weird feeling at all. Nor do I. > The sole problem I encounter here is the cost of the hobby. HF rigs are >still very expensive, unless you make your owns. See my previous post (just a few minutes ago). >There is a whole new >world to explore above the GHz limit, new antennae to design, new devices >to use, and that bandwith... Traditionnal HF is technically dead (more or >less, everything is known) HF is *NOT* dead as far as new technology is concerned. The directions have just changed a bit, that's all. If you look at the world of small (i.e., apartment-sized) antennas, for example, you'll see that there's a lot of room for experimenting. If you want more meaty experiments, look at the newer digital modes: clover, PacTOR, etc..... Ok, what about designing HF rigs themselves? There are all kinds of new things that can be done with filtering, for example (DSP being the new world to play with). Ok, granted, some (much) of this is out of the budget range of your average person, but there are other areas that I've left out in my quest to have this system shutdown while the thunderstorm is still a couple of miles away. Oops...time's up. Later, --jim -- #include <std_disclaimer.h> 73 DE N5IAL (/4) -------------------------< Running Linux 0.99 PL10 >-------------------------- Internet: jim@n5ial.mythical.com | j.graham@ieee.org ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W Amateur Radio: (packet station temporarily offline) AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1490 ****************************** ******************************