Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:11:00 PST
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Info-Hams Digest Mon, 13 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1460
Today's Topics:
10-Codes used by law enforcement (2 msgs)
ARRL's callsign admin position
Info sought on QUANTUM batt. packs
Logging Software / Hyperlog / Logic / Logmaster
Scratchi, January, 1960
Sony 2010?
TVI weirdness
VK2WI Weekly News, 12 Dec 1993
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Date: 13 Dec 93 19:25:45 GMT
From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!mla@rutgers.rutgers.edu
Subject: 10-Codes used by law enforcement
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
What department are those codes for?
Marc
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908-277-6039
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Date: 14 Dec 93 01:29:07 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: 10-Codes used by law enforcement
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Brian Mork [bmork@opus-ovh.spk.wa.us] posted a list of 10 codes used by
law enforcement (list deleted). While I'm not sure why it was posted here,
I am curious -- this list is not anything like any law enforcement 10 code
I have used or seen. It certainly doesn't match the Orange County
(California) Radio Codebook, which tries to follow national standards and
P.O.S.T. standards.
I am, on the other hand, planning on being in Washington next week. Is this
version of the code actually what is used by law enforcement there? I could
get quite confused listening in on the local cops if it is, but they would
be more confused listening to cops down here, 10-34 in my book is resume
normal operation and is used frequently to reopen a frequency that has been
restricted to particular traffic ("all units, 10-34 on orange south", by
the list posted, the Washington cops would be looking for a riot (that was
up in L.A.)
(As I reread my post, I see it could be interpreted as flameage, it is not
meant to be -- I am curious)
_____________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff Internet: WAKIRSAN@ananov.remnet.ab.com
Rockwell International Ham: KD6MCI
(714) 762-2872
Alternate Internet: william_a._kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com
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Date: 13 Dec 93 19:35:15 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: ARRL's callsign admin position
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In rec.radio.amateur.misc, dan@mystis.wariat.org (Dan Pickersgill N8PKV) writes:
>
>Again, the ARRL Guys I have met here have been helpfull in the
>EXTREAM!!! Thank you to ALL you guys (& gals, not to be sexist). And I
>understand that there are CompuServ addresses too. GREAT!
>
>
You're welcome. And thank YOU for taking the time to express
appreciation in public.
Yes, we're on Compuserve. At least six times a day. Every day,
weekends and holidays included. And we're on NVN, BIX, Prodigy,
America On Line and GEnie to boot.
And -- when we can find the time -- we actually get on the radio as
well. Sigh...
| | | Deputy Manager, Field Services, ARRL.
| |___| The ARRL Amateur Radio Emergency Service, the ARRL
| uck | |urder National Traffic System, The Amateur Auxiliary to
------ | | the FCC's Field Operations Bureau, the ARRL
KY1T Field Organization and the ARRL Monitoring System.
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MCI Mail - RPALM, MCI Mail - "ARRL", America On Line - "ARRL HQ"
Compuserve - 70007,3373 (ARRL HQ) -- Genie ARRL.HQ
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Date: 12 Dec 1993 19:17:50 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!caen!msuinfo!arctic2!cravitma@ames.arpa
Subject: Info sought on QUANTUM batt. packs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1993Dec12.095415.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> white@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>
> I've been looking at battery packs for my TH78a.... Has anyone
> used the QUANTUM battery packs? Any feedback appreciated.
> 73s de N1QVE Harry white@csusys.ctstateu.edu
I've not seen the Quantum HT batteries, but I have had very positive
experiences with the Quantum batteries for camera flashes. As I
recall, they were high capacity gel cells with charging circuitry etc.
built in to prevent overcharging. (A photographer friend of mine
leaves hers plugged in all the time). Hope this helps.
/Matthew (Still waiting for my ticket, 5 weeks and counting)
--
Matthew Cravit | All opinions expressed here are
Michigan State University | my own. I don't speak for Michigan
East Lansing, MI 48825 | State, and they don't speak for me
E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.edu | (thank goodness).
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 14:18:27 MST
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Logging Software / Hyperlog / Logic / Logmaster
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am looking at buying one of the three above packages for logging my HF
station. Does anyone have one or the other, and be interested in
supplying feedback on the product?
David WB7TPY
---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135
Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 12:59:33 PST
From: library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!oneb!ham!emd@network.ucsd.
Subject: Scratchi, January, 1960
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
> In article <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) write
> >
> > However, the posting of racist material without some explanation is
> > distinctly unwelcome, and may be extremely offensive to some who read
> > this forum.
>
> Granted. Why don't we have a show of hands of those who were offended by
> the Scratchi editorial?
>
> > I would hope that we would endeavor to include as many people as possible
> > in this forum; blindly posting racially offensive material is not the
> > way to do that.
>
> Greg, I think you are overreacting. While the material in Scratchi may have
> the potential for offense, let's be clear here that someone was actually
> offended before we send Myron away.
>
> All this political correctness is enough to make one puke.
>
>
With respect, Bill, I think you are the one who's over-reacting. In it's
original form, when printed in the 50's and 60's, although not intended
as racist material, it did portray, nonetheless, an offensive and racist
stereotype of Japanese.
What was accepted then by the average person and what is acceptable now
has obviously changed, as have many other things in our society. "Amos
'n' Andy" wouldn't get the same reaction today that it did in the
forties, either.
I don't think Greg's bringing this to our attention is in any way an
expression of "political correctness" - at least in the sense of trying
to prevent some one from expressing an unpopular or non-mainstream view.
Rather, he appears to be pointing out that many people today will find
depictions of racial stereotypes as unfair, repugnant, and offensive. I
find his comments to the point, and well taken.
Robert Smits There is *no* idiotproof filter.
VE7EMD Idiots are proof against anything!
Ladysmith B.C. - Richard Chycoski, VE7CVS
e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 17:16:08 GMT
From: newshub.nosc.mil!crash!nctams1!pnet16!tjenkins@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Sony 2010?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Saw a Sony SW radio the other day. Is this radio good? Will it offer
performance equal to it's price? What about battery life? I had an ealier
model (2000?) that ran outta batteries fairly soon.
--Tom
UUCP: nctams1.navy.mil!pnet16!tjenkins
INET: tjenkins@pnet16.cts.com
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Date: 13 Dec 93 05:53:32 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: TVI weirdness
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In rec.radio.amateur.misc, tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Thomas J. Farish) writes:
>The Cable TVI saga continues.
>Well, it turned out that there was no longer any problem (so far) on any
>band but 10m (a definate improvement, but still...)
>
>Anyway, The weirdness is this. I tried several power levels with him on
>the phone to report problems and he could only hear me on SSB! I turned
>down the power to about 1 watt and he could still hear SSB on channel 13,
>but 90+ watts on CW - no problem!
It sounds like you are dealing with audio rectification. CW has
no audio associated with it, although I would imagine that you would
hear various thumps in the speaker as CW is keyed.
The high-pass filter you built is usually not necessary in cable-tv
installations. I usually recommend a common-mode choke as the best
all-round cure. Buy an FT-240-43 ferrite core. Install it by wrapping
about 10 turns onto the core, just before the cable hooks up to
the first electronic device in the system (set-top converter, VCR
or cable-ready TV). You can also purchase a common-mode choke.
The FT-240-43 core is available from Ocean State Electronics
401-596-3080. A common-mode choke is available from Starplex,
314-423-5756 (part-time business).
You might also try a common-mode choke and/or AC line filter (Radio
Shack catalog #14-1111) on the ac-line cord (TV, VCR or set-top
converter).
The ARRL Technical Information Service has several EMI/RFI information
packages available. Paper copies are available from the ARRL Technical
Department Secretary, 225 Main St., Newington, CT 06111. Send
a 9"X12" SASE with 3 units of US postage for each package required,
or send $2.00 each and we will send them postpaid. If you want one for
free, send a report of the particulars of your EMI problem to
ehare@arrl.org, AND a specific request for one or more of
the applicable packages.
EMI/RFI Package - obtain this one plus any of the others
EMI/RFI - bibliography
EMI/RFI - CATVI - Reprint from Communications Technology
EMI/RFI - Computer
EMI/RFI - Electrical
EMI/RFI - Telephone
The paper files have some information that cannot be made electronic,
such as the ARRL EMI/RFI Pamphlet for the non-technical neighbor.
Most of these are also available on our ARRL Electronic Mail Server,
info@arrl.org. Send it a request, with HELP in the text of the
message.
This information has been prepared as a membership service by the
ARRL Technical Information Service.
73, Ed
-----
Ed Hare, KA1CV ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111 My posts and views do not necessarily
(203) 666-1541 - voice represent the policy of the ARRL,
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor but I can probably get in trouble
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing for them anyway!
-----
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Date: 12 Dec 93 04:45:00 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au!news.cs.uow.edu.au!news.ci.com.au!eram!dave@uunet.uu.net
Subject: VK2WI Weekly News, 12 Dec 1993
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Divisional News
A Council meeting was held on Friday 10th December, at Amateur
Radio House. J.Kentwell VK2XBR chaired the meeting; C.Miranda
VK2TCM, R.Yorston VK2CAN, R.Henley VK2ZIG, T.Mills VK2ZTM, and
ten visitors were present.
Tim VK2ZTM reported on the Council meeting held the previous
night: amongst other things the date for the Annual General
Meeting was set for 10th April 1994, with the closing date being
28th February; there was nothing further to report on the appli-
cation from Vodaphone to erect a tower at the Dural site; and the
petition for an Extraordinary General Meeting to discuss and vote
upon a motion of no confidence in Council was discussed and
referred for legal advice.
Cesar VK2TCM spoke on the confusion surrounding the proper date
for the December Council meeting, as the Thursday meeting was not
called in accordance with a previously-passed motion. Roger
VK2ZIG stated that a quorum of Councillors had called the meet-
ing, all Councillors had been notified of the meeting, and a
quorum was present. Bob VK2CAN stated that HE had notified all
Councillors of the meeting. Tim VK2ZTM asked why the scheduled
meeting was changed to Thursday; Julie VK2XBR replied that he was
informed that R.Harrison VK2ZTB could not attend on Friday, so
the meeting date was changed.
There was a long discussion on ATV matters, with an emphasis on
coming to an agreement before the SMA does it for us. A motion
was carried:
That each ATV group be invited to send a representative
to a Council meeting to be held next Friday 17th
December to discuss a solution to the ATV dilemma and
further that relevant documents be distributed on or
before 15th December 1993,
with an amendment:
That Councillors with a possible conflict of interest be
barred from voting on this issue.
Tony Liolio VK2ZLT was invited to address Council re: the 6m
repeater, following an invitation from Roger Harrison that he
attend a Council meeting on 10th December. A motion was put:
That this meeting is at a total disbelief at the
ineptitude displayed by the Divisional Secretary
inasmuch as he wrote to Mr Tony Liolio VK2ZLT inviting
him to a Council meeting on 10th December 1993 to
discuss the donation of the 6m repeater and yet changed
the meeting to the 9th December 1993 without advising
him of such a change; and that Tony VK2ZLT and
assistants be given access to the Dural site for the
purpose of constructing and installing the 6m repeater
and cavities and be allowed to remove Institute property
specifically associated with the 6m repeater from the
Dural site.
This motion was carried unanimously.
Council meeting dates and times were discussed, and the following
motion was put:
That changes not be made to announced Council meeting
dates without at least fourteen days notice of the
change being given and without the agreement of a
majority of Councillors.
The motion was left to lie upon the table.
Questions were then invited from the visitors.
Steve Kuhl VK2TQ asked:
(1) who authorised the security guards;
(2) who authorised Blake Dawson Waldron be appointed, and did
all Councillors have knowledge of it;
(3) will the two members found not guilty be advised of the
result and reimbursed for expenses; and
(4) will the Glen English decision be reconsidered given that
the others were found Not Guilty.
Julie VK2XBR stated that two members were found GUILTY, not Not
Guilty. Cesar VK2TCM answered point (1) along the lines that the
appointment of the security guards was not discussed at a Council
meeting, but apprehension on the part of some Councillors caused
the decision to be made. On point (2), the solicitors Blake
Dawson Waldron were suggested by Mrs Val Harrison, not a formal
Council meeting. Three members of Council signed the agreement,
and this agreement was never put to a Council meeting for ratifi-
cation. On point (3), opinion was that reimbursement has not
been considered. On point (4), the matter concerning Glen
English should be overturned due to complications in carrying out
the actions.
Eric VK2EFY asked what was the reason given for the referral of
the EGM requisition for legal advice. Tim VK2ZTM answered that
no reason was given at the previous Council meeting.
Dave VK2KFU asked:
whereas D.Horsfall was asked to attend a Council meeting
to examine his membership status under Article 21, to
wit "conduct unbecoming or prejudicial to the interests
of the Division";
whereas D.Horsfall was there under protest, and the fact
of his attendance should not be taken as evidence of
acquiescence to the proceedings;
whereas requests have been made to the Divisional Secre-
tary, without success, to officially inform D.Horsfall
of the outcome;
whereas the Divisional Secretary announced at the EGM
that such a reply had been sent;
whereas to date D.Horsfall has not seen such a reply,
despite at least one reminder;
when is D.Horsfall going to be notified of the official verdict
of the sole charge under Section 21?
Cesar VK2TCM answered that the Divisional Secretary had indeed
stated at the EGM that such advice was in the mail.
John Telek VK2XTB stated that he had been taken to task for
putting a private "For Sale" message on the packet network,
following advice from the SMA and a solicitor that it was accept-
able, and as a result he had been barred from the VK6 packet
network. It was agreed that the matter be investigated.
On the matter of property keys for Councillors, Cesar VK2TCM said
that certain Councillors seem to have greater rights than others
as far as keys were concerned; this should be investigated and
corrected.
Julie VK2XBR will notify the other Councillors of the purpose and
date of the next Council meeting, set for Friday 17th December.
-- Written by Dave VK2KFU under authority from Cesar VK2TCM
--
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC PGP 2.3
dave@esi.COM.AU ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave available
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Date: 13 Dec 93 17:04:02 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Dec8.003753.9910@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, <DTD8Dc3w165w@mystis.wariat.org>, <2ear03$ssg@panix.com>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: ARRL's callsign admin position
In article <2ear03$ssg@panix.com> kb7uv@panix.com (Andrew Funk) writes:
>
>Steve also has an active division "cabinet" made up of all division-level
>appointees, SMs, section-level appointees, and selected others. Before
>each ARRL board meeting he holds a division cabinet meeting to determine
>the position of the division. Quite a number of ARRL Board policies come
>from these meetings, as Steve brings *into* the boardroom the desires and
>opinions of the membership in the Hudson Division.
This is a perfect example of the old boy network in action. The "cabinet"
is composed of Steve's appointees. Naturally they reflect his own views
to a large extent. While the intent may be to keep a large number of eyes
and ears out in the division, and that's good, the result is often, though
not certain in this particular case, to be more of an amen chorus from
the choir. The current field organization is machine politics at its
most raw.
The problem with the League structure as I see it is that it's a
one party state controlled mainly by the apparatchiki. It needs a
strong loyal opposition to keep it vigorous and honest. I think
more directors would help, and directors drawn not just on geographic
sections but also from interest groups in amateur radio. If we had
a director from the DX community, a director from the packet community,
a director from the repeater community, etc in addition to the geographic
sections, we'd likely get a more responsive organization. I also think
it would be good if members of the field organization were also elected
by the groups they would serve, IE traffic people would select their
managers etc. This happens to an extent informally now, but I think
it should be more of a formalized "merit board" type of thing to
reduce the machine politics in the present field organization.
(Lord knows though that it's hard enough to find *any* volunteers
to take some of these jobs.)
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
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Date: 12 Dec 93 13:37:54 EDT
From: hayes!bcoleman@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, <8498.2d061582@hayes.com>, <gregCHruGL.4JC@netcom.com>
Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
In article <gregCHruGL.4JC@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
> In article <8498.2d061582@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>>Granted. Why don't we have a show of hands of those who were offended by
>>the Scratchi editorial?
>
> Sorry, but it's not a matter of a vote.
I'm just trying to establish that there's a fire before we clear the theatre.
So far, I haven't even seen the smoke. All we have are your statements that
someone might be offended. As we can see from how the posting was variously
interpreted, no one was offended, and none of the people without prior
knowledge drew the racial stereotype you selected.
>>> I would hope that we would endeavor to include as many people as possible
>>> in this forum; blindly posting racially offensive material is not the
>>> way to do that.
>>
>>Greg, I think you are overreacting. While the material in Scratchi may have
>>the potential for offense, let's be clear here that someone was actually
>>offended before we send Myron away.
>
> Gee, let's make sure that someone will really get hurt before we
> yell 'fire' in a crowded theatre.
Actually, what you have done is yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. That is
morally reprehensible. Especially when it isn't clear that there's any smoke
at all.
All I am saying is that we should recoil from offensive material in light of an
actual offense, not from the SUGGESTION of a possible offense. Clear?
> Why are you suggesting that we send Myron away?
By censuring his posting, you are effectively "sending him away" from the
internet. Clearly you have stated you don't want him to post Scratchi any
longer. So, you suggested it, not I.
> Don't you care anything for the First Amendment?
Yes I do. That is why I see no reason to censure Myron's posting. No one was
offended, many people enjoyed it. Myron has the right to free speech within
the bounds set by the internet community. I see no reason to chastise him as you
have done.
> You must not, since you're the first one who suggested it.
Greg, this is not logical. Of anyone has taken steps contrary to the first
amendment, it is YOU not ME.
>>All this political correctness is enough to make one puke.
>
> So you're saying that you're so uncomfortable with the ideas presented,
> and so unable to cope with them intellectually that it makes you ill?
No, I find that political correctness OVERSENSITISES and SEPARATES people
from one another. If people are too cautious in what they say or think, they
will never build a sense of world community. Instead, they will be overly
concerned with how those "others" might take it. It is exactly the
classification of "others" splits us apart. Not some imagined stereotype.
--
Bill Coleman, AA4LR ! CIS: 76067,2327 AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
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Date: 13 Dec 93 22:10:30 GMT
From: ogicse!hp-cv!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpubmaa.esr.hp.com!garhow@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <gregCHtM06.AzD@netcom.com>, <2ea07c$7ts@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, <gregCHzAEq.2wz@netcom.com>
Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
In article <gregCHzAEq.2wz@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
|> In article <2ea07c$7ts@hpscit.sc.hp.com> garhow@hpubmaa.esr.HP.COM (Garry Howard) writes:
|>
|> Well, Garry, as I told you in the e-mail you sent me, a good part of my
|> up-jerkin', as they say, was in a part of the West where that's pretty
|> standard speech. As an 'owner' of that dialect, I can use it when I
|> damn well please.
|>
So what you are saying is it is OK to post stereotypic, possibly offensive,
material as long as you are making fun of your own kind. I guess this means
that if the Scratchi post was made by a Japanese then it would be OK and
no one should be offended.
|> As I also pointed out to you, it was a response to the 'flaming yer butt'
|> slang, in any case. Which is why I asked about the "Hampshire Hillbillies."
|>
Now who is rationalizing? It is OK to poke fun at "hillbillies", a blatant
stereotype portraying southerners, and other from rural mountain areas
as ignorant, backwards hicks because you can relate to it.
|> I have tried to carry on an intelligent conversation with you, Garry;
|> but you're going to have to decide whether that conversation takes
|> place publicly or privately.
|>
I posted this before I replied to your private e-mail. Which you initiated
by the way, not me! I didn't ask to be harrassed privately. I thought a
response here in a public forum was appropriate to your public posting
of stereotypic and potentially offensive material. There are other issues
we were discussing privately that I don't feel are appropriate for
public discussion.
---
Garry Howard - KE0SH - Cambridge, MA - garhow@a4450gh.esr.hp.com
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