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Info-Hams Digest Sun, 12 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1452
Today's Topics:
10-Codes (with 36/37 fixed)
Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 07 December
Icom IC-745 32 memory mod
Mobile Unit reviews
Mods for ICOM, YAESU and KENWOOD gear
Receive broadcast FM on 2m mobile antenna?
Scratchi, January, 1960
Thanks for the help!
W5YI's coverage of 'temporary callsigns'
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Date: 11 Dec 93 20:14:59 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!wupost!wuecl.wustl.edu!jlwei@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: 10-Codes (with 36/37 fixed)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Brian (bmork@opus-ovh.spk.wa.us) wrote:
: Originally posted 9DEC93. This version fixes a 10-36/10-37 error.
: Source of information is an old promotional card from Electra Company.
Considering that 10-codes aren't really followed 100%, what exactly was
the error? (sorry I missed the original post--i think)
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: Brian Mork Internet bmork@opus-ovh.spk.wa.us (BBS 509-244-9260)
: . . . .. Amateur Radio (AX.25) ka9snf@wb7nnf.#spokn.wa.usa
: ... . . USMail 6006-B Eaker, Fairchild, WA 99011
--jesse
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:02:09 MST
From: mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta@nntp.ucsb.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 07 December
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
07 DECEMBER, 1993
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
(Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 07 DECEMBER, 1993
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!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 341, 12/07/93
10.7 FLUX=107.0 90-AVG=097 SSN=099 BKI=2212 5334 BAI=016
BGND-XRAY=B2.6 FLU1=1.3E+06 FLU10=1.1E+04 PKI=3112 5434 PAI=015
BOU-DEV=019,010,006,009,072,038,027,048 DEV-AVG=028 NT SWF=00:000
XRAY-MAX= C4.2 @ 0219UT XRAY-MIN= B2.2 @ 2342UT XRAY-AVG= B4.8
NEUTN-MAX= +003% @ 1055UT NEUTN-MIN= -003% @ 1255UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.0%
PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1545UT PCA-MIN= -0.2DB @ 2130UT PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55359NT @ 1224UT BOUTF-MIN=55335NT @ 2024UT BOUTF-AVG=55349NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+068,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+122NT@ 1620UT GOES6-MIN=N:-067NT@ 0952UT G6-AVG=+090,+019,-034
FLUXFCST=STD:110,105,105;SESC:110,105,105 BAI/PAI-FCST=005,005,005/010,010,005
KFCST=1113 4321 1123 4211 27DAY-AP=011,006 27DAY-KP=3333 3331 2322 2111
WARNINGS=*SWF;*AURMIDWCH
ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!
NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 06 DEC 93 was 48.3.
The Full Kp Indices for 06 DEC 93 are: 2o 1- 1+ 2o 2+ 2- 2o 1+
SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
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Solar activity was low. Region 7629 (S22E02) slowed its
growth and simplified magnetically. It had only a few C-class
subflares during the day. However, it remains the most
interesting region on the disk.
Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
low.
The geomagnetic field was generally quiet until midway in
the period. Active to minor storm conditions have prevailed
since.
STD: A sudden magnetic impulse was observed from Canadian
magnetometers near 12:00 UTC. Geosynchronous satellites also
observed the impulse, which was followed by active levels of
geomagnetic activity.
Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is
expected to be quiet to unsettled. The current disturbance
should decline by early 08 December.
STD: Periods of minor storming have been observed over the
middle and high latitude regions just prior to the release of
this report. Additional minor (to major) storming over the
middle and high latitudes will remain possible until
approximately 15:00 UTC on 08 December.
Event probabilities 08 dec-10 dec
Class M 20/20/20
Class X 01/01/01
Proton 01/01/01
PCAF Green
Geomagnetic activity probabilities 08 dec-10 dec
A. Middle Latitudes
Active 25/10/10
Minor Storm 10/05/05
Major-Severe Storm 05/01/01
B. High Latitudes
Active 30/20/15
Minor Storm 10/10/10
Major-Severe Storm 05/05/01
HF propagation conditions were normal over the low and
middle latitude paths. High and polar latitude paths were
generally below-normal with poor propagation conditions
attributed to minor enhanced levels of auroral ionization
through the night-sectors and increased levels of geomagnetic
activity experienced after approximately 12:00 UTC. Poor
conditions are expected to persist over the higher latitude
paths, particularly on night and sunrise-crossing circuits,
for the next 24 hours. Conditions should begin to improve
thereafter. Middle latitude paths will see near-normal
propagation with enhanced levels of fading over night and
sunrise-crossing paths.
COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================
REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 07/2400Z DECEMBER
-----------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
7623 S15W76 159 0010 BXO 04 006 BETA
7627 S18W25 108 0050 CSO 05 006 BETA
7629 S22E02 081 0130 DSO 10 026 BETA-GAMMA
7630 S09E02 081 0100 DAO 08 021 BETA
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 08 DECEMBER TO 10 DECEMBER
NMBR LAT LO
7618 N07 339
LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 07 DECEMBER, 1993
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BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
0135 0135 0136 1600
POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 07 DECEMBER, 1993
-----------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
NO EVENTS OBSERVED
INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 07/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS
SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------
Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
06 Dec: 0638 0638 0642 SF 7630 S09E26
0645 0705 0731 B7.1 SF 7629 S23E25
B0710 U0715 A0730 SF 7629 S22E26
0736 0744 0746 SF 7629 S22E24
0747 0756 0814 C1.0
0801 0808 0826 SF 7629 S22E24
0911 0916 0931 B5.1
0934 0938 0942 B6.0
1034 1041 1048 C1.0
1221 1232 1237 C1.7 SF 7629 S22E21
1343 1352 1357 B4.8
1515 1528 1538 B6.2
1604 1612 1622 B7.8 SF 7629 S22E21
1713 1721 1734 C9.7 1N 7629 S22E19 33
B1746 U1746 A1814 SF 7629 S21E19
2036 2049 2057 C7.5 SF 7629 S23E16
2227 2254 2256 SF 7629 S21E14
REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------
C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
Region 7629: 3 0 0 9 1 0 0 0 010 (58.8)
Region 7630: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 ( 5.9)
Uncorrellated: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 006 (35.3)
Total Events: 017 optical and x-ray.
EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------
Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
NO EVENTS OBSERVED.
NOTES:
All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
III = Type III Sweep
IV = Type IV Sweep
V = Type V Sweep
Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
Loop = Loop Prominence System,
Spray = Limb Spray,
Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
** End of Daily Report **
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 18:16:30 GMT
From: ftpbox!mothost!binford!laidbak!tellab5!jwa@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Icom IC-745 32 memory mod
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Adding 16 more memories to the Icom IC-745
While installing the Willco memory board in my IC745
I noticed that it uses a 16 position rotary switch to
select the memories. The common lead to the switch
connects to Y5 which is a strobe line from logic board.
Four other contacts connect to the data bus at DB0, DB1,
DB2 and DB3. The switch uses a BCD sequence that selects
0 - F hex.
Other radios, like the Icom R71 and the IC751 use the
same logic board and they have 32 memories. If they
use the same logic then why can't the 745 have 32
memories?
I noticed that the R71 uses two IC's (IC4 and IC5) on
the matrix board that selects the memories using the
same data lines. However, the R71 uses 5 bit counter
(instead of 4). The additional bit connects to DB4.
I experimented with my 745 by connecting a diode from
Y5 to DB4 on the logic board and shure enough, the
memory selector switch selected a new bank of 16
memories.
You can use the PREAMP switch to enable/disable the
"mod" by removing the original preamp leads. A toggle
switch can be mounted on the rear apron and wired the
leads that where removed from the preamp switch. The
the empty preamp switch (which will function as a bank
select switch) should be wired in series with the diode
and the Y5 lead. The other end of the diode goes to DB4.
You can use a 1N914 low power, high speed switching diode.
Because the leads should be as short as possible, I
relocated the preamp switch to the rear apron. You can
find the signals (Y5 & DB4) on the Matrix board at P1
and J11 which is only about 6 inches away from the switch.
Re label the preamp switch "Bank 2".
When the BANK select switch is out or open, memories
1 to 16 are selected. When the button is in, memories
17 to 32 are selected.
With the Willco "no fail memory" and this modification,
I can select all 1024 memories. I have 64 banks with
16 memories in each bank. The mod also gives me access
to the 250 "Hot HF frequencies" that are pre-programmed
in the Willco board.
---
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Tele (708) 378-6201
Tellabs Operations, Inc. FAX (708) 378-4590
1000 Remington Blvd. jwa@tellabs.com
Bolingbrook, IL 60440
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Date: 8 Dec 1993 16:30:30 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat!olivea!koriel!newscast.West.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!webrider!doc@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mobile Unit reviews
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Greetings -
I'm seriously in the market for a mobile unit and am looking at
the following units -
Standard C5718DA
Alinco DR-600T
Kenwood TM-742A
I would be extremely interested in feedback from the group as to
performance, ease of use, bells & whistles and possible modifications.
If there is an ftp site I should be checking out for archive info
I'd love to hear about it.
Many thanks for any information,
73
Steve
---
--
-- Steve Bunis, Sun Microsystems ***DoD #0795*** 93-ST1100
-- Itasca, IL ***AMA #682049***
-- ***HRCA #HM125617**
-- *** N9VLP ***
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:38:49 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!ieunet!curia!csvax1.ucc.ie!HAZARD@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mods for ICOM, YAESU and KENWOOD gear
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hi all.
I'm posting this for a friend who is nuts into radio hardware, so
any help would be appreciated! His name is Mark O'Leary, known
in Cork area as EI5EFB (it says here :-)
He's looking for any keyboard or hardware mods for the following
units:
ICOM ICP4ET 70 cm handheld
YAESU FT530 dual band handheld
KENWOOD TH78E ditto
Or maybe someone could point me towards some FTP site that keeps
docs/FAQs on this kind of stuff.
Replies by e-mail please (if no-one else is interested!)
Thanx in adv.
Fergus.
-- _ _ _ _ _ _ Fergus o'Hea
// /| /|| || || | /| | || | Comp Sci Postgrad
\\// /_| /_|| || || | / | | -|| | University College Cork
\/ / | ||_||_||_|/ |_| _||_| Ireland. (hazard@csvax1.ucc.ie)
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 02:35:39 GMT
From: UB.com!daver!cypress.com!ral@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Receive broadcast FM on 2m mobile antenna?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article DJH@boi.hp.com, riyadth@boi.hp.com (Riyadth Al-Kazily) writes:
>
>Hello,
>
> I was wondering.. (here I go, getting myself in trouble again!) .. if
>it would be possible to install a 2m antenna on my car in place of my
>standard antenna, and have some type of adapter that would allow me to
>use it with a(n) HT and also with my stereo (without damaging either one).
>Has anyone tried this? I don't know how broadcast AM/FM reception will
>be affected, but everything I listen to around here can be heard with
>little or no antenna at all, so I don't think that will suffer too much.
>
> I remember seeing combination CB/AM/FM antennas advertised in the
>past, with some kind of isolator to prevent the CB from overloading the
>AM/FM receiver. Is there any similar product for Amateur Radio use?
>Otherwise, I guess I'll just buy a magnetic mount antenna for amateur
>use -- but it sure would be nice to have a more permanent solution.
I have been thinking along the same line although I prefer a stand alone
retractable antenna so that it can be hidden out of sight when not in use. With
a dedicated unit, the car radio is safe and the antenna can be tuned for
max performance. I know there are glass mount 2m antenna similar in size to
a cell phone antenna, but I am looking for a electrically retractable whip.
73s
Ray WB7COG
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 15:35:40 GMT
From: butch!rapnet!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Scratchi, January, 1960
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Path: rapnet!butch!uunet!tadpole.com!news.dell.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!greg
>From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
>Subject: Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
>Message-ID: <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>
>Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
>References: <mac.755206284@depot.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>
>Distribution: usa
>Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 13:57:15 GMT
>Lines: 20
>The "Scratchi" features, while they may have been acceptable and even
>amusing in the context of contemporary culture, are not consistent with
>present-day cultural and ethical sensibilities. They are representative
>of a time when it was okay to ridicule people of differing races.
>If Myron's point is that the column represents an illustration that
>an issue being discussed in this forum has been with us for at least
>33 years, there may be some redeeming value to the posting.
>However, the posting of racist material without some explanation is
>distinctly unwelcome, and may be extremely offensive to some who read
>this forum.
>I would hope that we would endeavor to include as many people as possible
>in this forum; blindly posting racially offensive material is not the
>way to do that.
>Myron, please explain your intent.
>Greg
Greg - You must not have been dry behind the ears the first time that
Scratchi letter was published (I cleaned up my first thought). I rather
enjoyed the nostalga of rereading Scratchi and I'll not allow your liberal
attitude to ruin that. Go rain on someone elses parade. Take your
politically correct narrow nose and poke it up the Clinton's backside
instead of sticking it into a part of Amateur Radio history and trying to
make it into something it is not!
Joel - KC1SG
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| Joel B. Chappell - KC1SG Lockheed Sanders |
| Principal Engineer Nashua, NH 03061 |
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| -= Standard Disclaimer: All opinions are mine. =- |
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| jchappel@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com |
| Fido: 1:132/204.1 |
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Date: 12 Dec 1993 01:09:29 -0600
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!matt.ksu.ksu.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Thanks for the help!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Just wanted to say thank you for all the help everyone out there in USENET
land gave me as I was struggling through learning the code. I am pleased to
say that today I passed the element IA 5wpm morse test (barely :). Looking
forward to seeing all of you on the airwaves someday!!!!!
73 everyone DE N0YAX (Now Tech Plus)
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Jeremy L. Utley | jlu@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu
Computing & Infomation Sciences | cbr600@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Student | cbr600@ksuvm.bitnet
Kansas State University | bxth85a (Prodigy)
A.S. Comp. Sci. & Acctg. | N0YAX@N0OER.#NEKS.KS.USA.NA (Packet Radio)
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Date: 10 Dec 93 17:57:04 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: W5YI's coverage of 'temporary callsigns'
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In rec.radio.amateur.misc, jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
(text deleted)
>Because it could be confused with a usage of the form KD6TTL/ZL1. The US
>"owns" prefixes AG, AE, and AA, so KD6TTL/AG wouldn't appear to be from
>another country, but we don't own AT (which is not assigned, according to
>my Callbook).
(text/sig deleted)
AT is assigned to the country of India (VU). The full prefix allocation
is ATA to AWZ. DXers may remember working such stations as AT0N or AT0U
during any of the past DX contests.
It's not considered a "parent prefix" (like VU), so you may not see a
general call listing of it in the Callbook.
If so desired, I could probably operate from India with a callsign such
as NJ1Q/AT, or AT/NJ1Q.
73,
Joe, NJ1Q
Joseph Carcia, NJ1Q | "The surest sign that Intelligent
ARRL Outgoing QSL Service Mgr. | life exists in the Universe is
American Radio Relay League | that NONE of it has ever visited
225 Main St. | the Earth." - Calvin & Hobbs
Newington CT 06111-1494 |
(w) (203) 666-1541 ext. 274 |
(fax) (203) 665-7531 |
internet: jcarcia@arrl.org |
"Remember...ALWAYS Listen to American and National Public Radio!!"
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Date: 8 Dec 1993 00:16:04 GMT
From: world!news.bu.edu!transfer.stratus.com!sw.stratus.com!fms@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, <2e26th$e1s@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, <gregCHooL3.Jt7@netcom.com>.c
Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
I must be missing something. Could somebody please explain to me how the Scratchi
article was racist? I certainly didn't read anything racist in it. Matter of
fact, I rather liked the article. It took a bit to read the "accent", but then
it took me a while to get into the swing of some of Mark Twain's works for the
same reason. And I identified with the poor fellow's only ending up with 1 out
of 10 of his students, too -- our ratio's a bit better than that, but not by much!
:-)
73 de Faith N1JIT
--
Faith M. Senie InterNet: fms@vos.stratus.com
Stratus Computer, Inc. InterNet: fms@hoop.sw.stratus.com
55 Fairbanks Blvd. Pkt Radio: n1jit@wa1phy.ma.usa.na
Marlboro, MA 01752 Phone: (508)460-2632
Curiosity doesn't flourish among the burned-out...
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 18:10:57 GMT
From: butch!rapnet!news@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Dec8.192104.23873@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>, <2e5k37$7v0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, <gregCHs9nL.CLt@netcom.com>
Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
In article <gregCHs9nL.CLt@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Path: rapnet!butch!netcomsv!netcom.com!greg
>From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
>Subject: Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
>Message-ID: <gregCHs9nL.CLt@netcom.com>
>Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
>References: <gregCHooL3.Jt7@netcom.com> <1993Dec8.192104.23873@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> <2e5k37$7v0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
>Distribution: usa
>Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 19:47:44 GMT
>Lines: 38
>I received the following correspondence from a reader, and he has agreed
>to let me post it. It says more than I ever could. To the naysayers,
>and pc-baiters: if this doesn't make you understand, I'm afraid that
>nothing will. Now, Tony:
>From tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com Thu Dec 9 10:54:18 1993
>Return-Path: <tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>
>Received: from hp.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom)
> id KAA29165; Thu, 9 Dec 1993 10:54:17 -0800
>Received: from hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP
> (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA26581; Thu, 9 Dec 1993 10:53:42 -0800
>Received: by hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com
> (1.37.109.8/15.5+IOS 3.21) id AA16958; Thu, 9 Dec 1993 10:45:37 -0800
>Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 10:45:37 -0800
>From: Tony Zugec <tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>
>Message-Id: <9312091845.AA16958@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>
>To: greg@netcom.com
>Subject: Scratchi
>Status: ORr
>Greg, thankyou for so eloquently saying what
>I wanted to say, but am too mad. I am afraid that
>in my rage, I will only embarrass myself.
>I can't understand why some people can just
>pass this type of racism off as "just in fun".
>It wasn't fun when I was a kid, having other
>kids ridicule me as being half asian, slanting
>their eyes, speaking in 'scratchi' and making
>fun of my mother. It really hurt, I guess they
>will never understand. So, I appreciate
>the intelligent manner in which you present
>your argument. I hope some of them get a
>clue, but I doubt it.
>Tony WB6TRU
Awwww Shucks Greg...I got it now. I should get real hurt and mad at the
ARRL and Gildersleeve for all them Jeeves cartoons that made fun of us over
fifty, overweight, white, male radio flunkies... Why I'll bet that's why I
am the way I am. A product of politically incorrect amateur radio humor.
Thanks sooo much for your help!!
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|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Joel B. Chappell - KC1SG Lockheed Sanders |
| Principal Engineer Nashua, NH 03061 |
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| -= Standard Disclaimer: All opinions are mine. =- |
| |
| jchappel@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com |
| Fido: 1:132/204.1 |
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