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Info-Hams Digest Mon, 6 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1429
Today's Topics:
Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
API for Ham Calls
HAM-server index file
Hamradio with deer hunting!
help
Kenwood TH-78A -- Opinions wanted
Legal Question about 97.403 (3 msgs)
money money money
repost: What is "RF Resistance"?
RF Ground for 2nd story shack?
Signal/One CX7A help
W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns"
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:29:18 GMT
From: psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Thanks, Nabil. I need one more new QSL for DXCC Honor
Roll, and a real 3V card would be perfect! Many
Hams here would love to get a card from 7X5ST, so
any help you can give us will be greatly appreciated.
--
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
* Pat Masterson D12-25 | KE2LJ@KC2FD *
* Grumman Data Systems | 516-346-6316. *
* Bethpage, NY 11746 | bat@gdstech.grumman.com *
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Date: 6 Dec 93 07:36:59 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: API for Ham Calls
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have the QRZ! CD (Time for an update on Dataset? - March 93 is starting to
age.) --- I find it useful for lookups, however it would be nice to get
International Datasets of Licensee's as well ... Perhaps we could come up with
a data record format (starting with the US info) and have Internet Hams provide
the info to eventually build up an International Callbook database. Maybe
some kind of "Robot" could be set up, like the one at UCSD for AMPRNET DNS
updates, that could be used to build good datasets (maybe Walnut Creek
[cdrom.com] would sponser it) and ham community CD could be published at
regular intervals.
John D. Hays KD7UW
P.S. I am not affliated in any way with Walnut Creek or the QRZ! Ham Radio CD
other than as a customer.
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Date: 5 Dec 93 01:35:57 GMT
From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!pacbell.com!amdahl!grafex!ka6etb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HAM-server index file
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In <9312022028591.gilbaronw0mn.DLITE@delphi.com> gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com (Gilbert Baron) writes:
>>>Phooey on you Gil! I for one am glad to see the list of files. This
>>>ham-server is a gold mine of info - I've gotten so many goodies off
>That is what the index is for. Go and read the index yourself and then get
>what you need. Don't subject the rest of the network to this. It is not
>needed and waste time and space and LOTS of money.
Probably no more costly than the AMSAT or KEPLER info published on a much
more regular basis.
Boy, are you gonna be peeved when I get HAM-server set up for PBBS.
73 de KA6ETB
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 18:31:57 GMT
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!mace.cc.purdue.edu!@@mvb.saic.com
Subject: Hamradio with deer hunting!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
gumaer@merlin.etsu.edu (Mark W. Gumaer) writes:
>I went deer hunting with my father (KA5ZEH) last weekend in Texas and decided
>to take another hobby with me: Hamradio!
A good idea, one that is skirting the edge of legality in
every state that I've bothered
to check. While I will (off the record) admit to doing such for exactly
the reasons you give:
>1) emergencys
>2) To call each other when one of us was ready to go.
using radios to hunt is illegal because the unsportsmanlike will use one
to call their buddies over to blow away the whole herd and/or to herd
animals toward the guy with the gun. I'm sure the game warden will
readily believe that you weren't engaging in either of those activities.
User beware.
--
Perry G. Ramsey N9LFF Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
pramsey@wave.atms.purdue.edu Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN USA
Uglier things have been seen in the skies, but not by reliable witnesses
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:09:16 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
Subject: help
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <ACcIZ_i878@analyt.chem.lgu.spb.su> phil@analyt.CHem.lgu.spb.SU (Alexander I. Phillichev) writes:
>help
Easy, Gang - don't start firing up your out-of-band HT's to notify the
county sheriff; let's see what kind of help he needs first...
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: 2 Dec 1993 22:09:33 GMT
From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!msuinfo!arctic2!cravitma@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Kenwood TH-78A -- Opinions wanted
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I passed my Technician ticket 4 weeks ago, and am thinking about
trying to get a Kenwood TH-78A 2m/440 HT for Christmas. Anyone out
there who has one, has used one, or whatever and has any opinions,
praise, condemnation etc. for them, please e-mail me. I would greatly
appreciate as much info as possible before I ask my parents to spend
>$400.00 on a Christmas present.
Thanks.
/Matthew
--
Matthew Cravit | "So I sent him to ask of the
Michigan State University | owl, if he's there, how to
East Lansing, MI 48825 | loosen a jar from the nose
E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.edu | of a bear..."
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:50:09 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!apple.com!gallant.apple.com!mithrandir.apple.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
phil sohn
sohn@apple.com
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:01:44 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Phil Sohn (sohn@apple.com) wrote:
: I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
: Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
: front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
: This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
: taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
: to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
: about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
: emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
: have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
: no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
: available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
I believe the "these rules" applies to part 97, the rules under which
amateurs operate. Rules under which broadcast stations, radar stations and
the like would not seem to apply well to amateurs. Taken in that context
then, "these rules" would be part 97. The partial quote is correct.
97.111(2) says you can exchange two communications with a station in another
FCC-regulated service while providing emergency communications.
97.403 deals with safety of life and protection of property. A partial quote:
"... any means of radio communication ... in connection with the immediate
safety of human life ...". In order to use this section, I would say the
safety of human life must be of the extreme and immedate nature...like a
guy hanging by one hand on a tree half way down a very long cliff. If the
person is injured, but in no immediate danger of dying then this probably
would not apply. It may well be the person would die with in a hour
without help, but I am not sure this is immediate enough to invoke the
rule.
It also deals with the immediate protection of property. I don't think
there is any reason strong enough to protect property that would entice me
to talk to the police dispatcher on a radio. I am not familiar with part 90,
but probably is the rules under which the cops operate.
I don't have equipment that can operate on other than ham bands, and if I
did, I am not sure I would even consider operating on a cop frequency. Cops
can get pretty dam narrow minded when it comes to somebody other than cops
talking on their radios. The natural instinct of any normal police force is
to take away anything they consider a threat, real or imagined. A radio that
can operate on their frequency is such a threat. Even if the use of the
radio was proper and resulted in the saving of a life. This probably is
a very good argument for the use of cell phones.
Jim, WA6SDM
jholly@cup.hp.com
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:12:13 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis1.cis.uab.edu!spam.dom.uab.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <sohn-031293115009@mithrandir.apple.com>, sohn@apple.com (Phil
Sohn) wrote:
>
> I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
> Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
> front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
>
> This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
> taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
> to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
> about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
> emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
> have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
> no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
> available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
>
> phil sohn
> sohn@apple.com
The way I have read that phrase is to mean that the rules restricting
amateurs to their own bands is not to be construed to be a limitation
in an emergency. This means amateurs are not restricted more than
anyone else in the use of any radio frequency in an emergency. IMHO.
Steve Holland
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Date: 4 Dec 93 10:05:05 -0700
From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc@mvb.saic.com
Subject: money money money
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <jdm-011293090934@158.140.20.176>, jdm@cadence.com (Joe Mastroianni) writes:
> In article <CHBJI0.6zA@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>, pardee@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu ()
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This awesome messages explains how to make $50,000 in cash. All you
>> need is $5! The best part is that it is totally legal. Please read it.
>> It really works!
>>
> Why is it that every generation feels it is the one that invented sex and
> pyramid schemes?
Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it?
(Yes, I'm one of that generation, no, I don't believe we invented ethier sex
nor pyramid schemes :))
Dale Babiy,
VE7XD
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:50:50 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.dell.com!pmafire!boojum!mamie.lanl.gov!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: repost: What is "RF Resistance"?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
First post didn't make it out...sorry if it get duplicated later...
I was looking over an ad for the MFJ SWR-analyzers. One had an optional
"RF Resistance" meter. What is RF resistance? Is is the real part of
the complex impedance, the absolute value of the impedance or something
else? How does an "RF resistance meter" differ from one for DC?
Thanks for any info...
Tom
KJ5LT
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:57:56 GMT
From: microsoft!wingnut!richgi@uunet.uu.net
Subject: RF Ground for 2nd story shack?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
What's the best way to get a good RF ground for a 2nd story shack? I've heard
recommended a bunch of 1/4 wavelength wires, one for each band. Does this work?
Are the wires 'hot'? How about that MFJ (I think) tuner for ground wires? Anyone
use it? How about just running a heavy cable to a ground rod?
Any tips from someone who's been there would be appreciated.
Richard
ki7kj
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Date: 6 Dec 93 04:20:24 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!iat.holonet.net!rohrwerk@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Signal/One CX7A help
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Finally got a bargain-priced CX7A working after 5 months of intermittent
work. However, it would be interesting to contact various users/gurus
about this rig to help me figure out if I have more work to do or if I've
reached the limits of this older rig. Example: stability is OK, but not
great -- just component aging, or inherent in the design?
Would also love a CW filter for it. Sources?
John K0JD
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 15:39:09 GMT
From: psinntp!laidbak!tellab5!chinet!megabyte@uunet.uu.net
Subject: W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns"
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1993Dec2.170117.7227@cs.brown.edu>,
Michael P. Deignan <md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu> wrote:
>a counterpart to "My Gun, My Penis - An NRA GunOwners Bible" called
I could take great offense at this, but this isn't talk.politics.guns, but
you are stereotyping...
{stories of ineffective ARRL in R.I.)
>*THAT* is what our League officials do in RI.
Kick them out, get better ones, vote the elected ones out of office, but DO
something.
--
"It is a pity that even a single drop of this noble
gift of God should be spilled" - J.S. Bach on wine
Mark E. Sunderlin: Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
aka Dr. Megabyte: megabyte@chinet.chinet.com (703) 722-9330
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 20:48:40 GMT
From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com>, <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, <1993Dec1.230224.1567@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>rdu
Subject : Re: Calculating SWR (U.S. Exams)
In article <1993Dec1.230224.1567@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu> clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
>In article <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, jmorris@mu.apana.org.au (James Morris) writes:
>> In article <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com> lawrence@combdyn.com writes:
>>>How do you calculate SWR? I have a power meter...
>> I am not trying to be mean,...a radio theory test for your amateur license
>> James Morris VK2GVA
>
> As I recall the (US) ham exams, this topic is not addressed ...
> 73 >< Carl K8NHE
SWR is on the Tech and General exams, but not in terms of forward and
reflected power. The questions ask about what forward and reflected power
are, and how to calculate SWR if you know the impedance of the transmission
line and the load resistance, no formulae with Fwd or Ref and square roots.
Galen, KF0YJ
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