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Info-Hams Digest Wed, 1 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1411
Today's Topics:
(none) (2 msgs)
Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
Amateur Radio Newsline #850
FL-7000 -- Thoughts and Experiences?
Getting magazine article
help pl encode/decode
License datapoints.... :)
Logging program for casual contacts
Mobile 2m/440 reccomendations pse
new hams on repeater
Reply to: INFO-HAMS DIGEST V93 #1398 (2 msgs)
TS440 Xmit Hangup
using a radio off frequency in emergencies (2 msgs)
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Date: 1 Dec 93 16:07:05 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: (none)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Subject: Aide SARAJEVO...
de F2BU @ LX0PAC.LUX.EU
to TOUS @ EU
Demande d'AIDE de la part de Mario T94JW de SARAJEVO.
****************************************************
Pour permettre de remettre en etat des TX qui servent
a assurer des liaisons avec le monde exterieur ou se
trouvent des parents ou amis exiles,il a besoin de:
2 MRF455
2 MRF422
2 tubes 6146 pour FT101zd
Faire offre a Fernand F2BU Strasbourg
BBS-F6KFG-8 @ F6KDL-8.FCAL.FRA.EU
Ce materiel sera remis en main propre a MARIO par moi-meme
partant sur le convoi NOEL-SARAJEVO de Strasbourg en principe
le 17 Decembre 1993.
Merci de lire ce message,
73's de Fernand F2BU...
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Date: 1 Dec 93 16:07:03 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: (none)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Subject: Sumitomo resume production...
Sumitomo Chemical To Resume Epoxy Resin Production 11/12/93
TOKYO, JAPAN, 1993 NOV 12 (NB) -- Sumitomo Chemical will resume
production of epoxy resin in early December. Epoxy resin is
necessary to produce memory chips, and the return of
production means a worldwide shortage of memory chips may
end soon.
Sumitomo Chemical has dominated worldwide production of epoxy
resin. The supply was interrupted in July with an explosion at
the plant. That led to a reduction in the general chip supply.
Sumitomo Chemical will not resume production of a 16-megabit
DRAM yet. The company says it must await a report from the
fire department and the police concerning the actual cause
of the explosion.
Meanwhile, another chemical firm, Nippon Kayaku, says it will
produce resin for 16-megabit DRAM. Its production line
is currently under the construction.
Since the accident, most Japanese semiconductor firms
have started to look for other materials to replace
epoxy resin. But due to the costs, that search is expected to
take some time.
(Masayuki "Massey" Miyazawa/19931112/Press Contact: Sumitomo
Chemical, +81-6-220-3891, +81-3-3278-7000)
(NEWS)(GENERAL)(TYO)(00017)
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 11:08:40 GMT
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!xlink.net!scsing.switch.ch!swidir.switch.ch!univ-lyon1.fr!cri.ens-lyon.fr!news.imag.fr!imag.fr!layaida@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <BAT.93Nov29150549@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM>, bat@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Pat Masterson) writes:
|>
|> Nabil, thanks for the 7X listing. Can you get addresses
|> for QSLing for us? ALso, do you know about 7X5ST who was in
|> Tunisia last year? I have his card, but we need a copy
|> of the 3V license to send to the ARRL for documentation.
|> Can you help with this?
|> --
Yes 7X5ST has been to tunisia and operated from there for a while,
i have a QSL from him, i'll try to reach him in Algeria to get
a copy for the licence.
Nabil ( 7X2KT )
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LAYAIDA Nabil
e-mail : Layaida.Nabil@imag.fr
Unite Mixte Bull-IMAG/Systemes
Projet: Schema de designation extensible
dans les systemes repartis OO
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 16:56:26 GMT
From: swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!charnel!rbauer@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #850
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <7b72025a2cf98fb7yarn@dorsai.dorsai.org>,
Steve Coletti <bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org> wrote:
>
> CALLING FOR HELP IS ILLEGAL
>
[...]
> "Persons or organizations maintaining an eligibility in
> isolated areas where public communications facilities are not
> available and where the use of radio is the only feasible means
> of establishing communications with a center of population, or
> other point from where emergency assistance might be obtained if
> needed, are eligible to hold authorizations to operate radio
> stations for the transmission of messages only during an actual
> or impending emergency endangering life, health or property for
> the transmission of essential communications arising from the
> emergency. The transmission of routine or non-emergency
> communications is strictly prohibited." -- end quote.
[...]
The above quote seems to say that anyone can call for help if
the situation warrants it; it does not prohibit anything, except
"routine or non-emergency communications."
Im no expert on interpreting this stuff, so kindly correct me if
this is wrong.
Regardless of the proper interpretation of the above quote, as far
as Im concerned, ANY such laws are just ink on paper during an
emergency. I'd rather be a living law breaker than a dead law-abider.
(Admittedly this is an extreme example, but you get the idea.)
Regards,
Robert, N7TFZ
rbauer@ecst.csuchico.edu
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Date: 1 Dec 93 05:46:24 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!guvax!roakley@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FL-7000 -- Thoughts and Experiences?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone out there have any experience with the FL-7000?
I have the 990 which I love, and I am seriously thinking about
splurging on the 7000. But what do the users think? Specifically, is
it worth the bucks to get the solid state power?
Thanks for the thoughts.
Bob
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Date: 1 Dec 93 18:19:50 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Getting magazine article
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
> I'm looking for an article from the January 1978 _Ham Radio_
> magazine. If you can help, please e-mail me.
> Michael A. Gauland gaulandm@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM
> AA7JF (503) 627-5067
Ask at your local public library. Almost all of them participate in the
Interlibrary Loan service (ILL) and can get a photocopy of stuff from back
issues of just about anything, anywhere. Usually free, or cost of
postage/FAX.
Paul Marsh N0ZAU Omaha pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:57:41 GMT
From: organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!CS.Arizona.EDU!rainbow.cse.nau.edu!nauvax.ucc.nau.edu!kev@uunet.uu.net
Subject: help pl encode/decode
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The local repeater just had the pl code turned on. My OLD kenwood
tr2600 can't handle the sophistication. Does anyone have any info
on how I can modify this radio to handle pl encode and decode? I
guess the other alternative is to buy another radio......
On another matter, does anyone have a mike (or a clone) for this radio?
Thanks
n7sqw -- keith -- kev@a1.ucc.nau.edu
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 08:51:51 -0700
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!udel!news.sprintlink.net!agphx.agcs.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: License datapoints.... :)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
My friends laughed at me on Monday when I said it'll probably be
in the mailbox...
Test taken: Saturday, October 16
Effective Date: Tuesday, November 23
Postmarked: Friday, November 26
Received: Monday, November 28
Callsign: KB7ZQB
Elapsed Time: 6 weeks, 3 days
Now to go shopping! :)
-Dan
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Date: 1 Dec 93 05:38:31 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!guvax!roakley@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Logging program for casual contacts
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <gregCH9Ay5.HBH@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
> In article <VkHPDc7w165w@stat.com> david@stat.com (David Dodell) writes:
>>I'm looking for a program for logging casual contacts (vs contest
>>operation) ... any suggestions?
I've been using Hyperlog for general logging purposes. (I think it
isn't quite efficient enough for a contest, and doesn't give contest
info (QSO's per hour, total points, multipliers, etc.) but it is a
nice program for general logging purposes.
In addition to all the normal stuff, it tracks WAS and DXCC, and it
has a WINDOW that allows you to monitor or connect to the DX Cluster.
It even keeps tracks of DX spots it hears (whether you're connected or
not) so you can leave the radio on, come into the room at any time and
his a key to see the latest spots.
Hyperlog comes as Shareware, but if you decide to keep it you
MUST register and pay $45.00. If you don't register, the program has
built in nag screens that will drive you crazy. Anyway, I like it;
you can try the shareware free for a month or more, and then decide.
Bob
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Washington, D.C. 20001 INTERNET: ROAKLEY@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 15:25:32 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu!levine@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mobile 2m/440 reccomendations pse
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I will be buying a new dual bander for the truck soon,
looking for comments about the Yeasu 5100 and the ICOM
3230H. (or any worthy competitors except the Standard
Twin Bander (form factor is too large))
Thanks
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Date: 1 Dec 93 21:48:15 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: new hams on repeater
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Minor excerpts from new ham on repeater thread:
>I never did understand why CQ on the repeater is frowned upon. Isn't
> it really the same thing when you say monitoring. Maybe CQ CQ etc
> doesn't sound quite right but what is wrong with W0MN on the frequency.
> I would apppreciate a call to chat.
>
One of our recent cultural failings is the apparent inability to say what
we mean, rather than some euphemism or substitute therefor. "I'm
monitoring" means "I'm listening" and does not necessarily mean I want to
talk. If I want to converse with someone (anyone) out there, I should say
so.
.....
>> "You know...I thought I heard a new ham in there...."
>> "Bet he7s a nocode....."
> I'd have said - "Hey a new guy, welcome in. Is this your first qso?"
If there was a hint of code-ism there, shouldn't you have said,
"didididit didit dahdahdididahdah dahdahdit dididah dahdidahdah dididit
didahdidahdidah" ?
Paul Marsh N0ZAU a real dit, himself.
pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu
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Date: 1 Dec 93 15:40:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Reply to: INFO-HAMS DIGEST V93 #1398
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE STOP SENDING 3-4 COPIES
OF THIS STUFF. I DON'T MIND READING INFO REGARDING HAM RADIO PROGRAM INFO
PERTAINING TO VAMC BUT COPY AFTER COPY AFTER COPY OF EACH MESSAGE IS TOOOO
MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: 1 Dec 93 23:27:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Reply to: INFO-HAMS DIGEST V93 #1398
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
#'s 1 & 2
Just because there may be more than one message with any given date
does not mean that multiple copies are being sent. If you are recieving
more than one copy check to see who is forwarding them to you. I for one
am glad to get the single copy I have been recieving.
Bob
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 15:18:34 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplextra!news.dtc.hp.com!srgenprp!bsplaine@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: TS440 Xmit Hangup
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have a friend whose newly aquired TS440 is hanging up on xmit.... or so
the transmit LED indicates...
The xcvr does not return to rcv. but he can not hear a side tone w/LED on.
It all resets back to normal when he powers down and back on again. But the
same problem reoccurs.
I had this happen to me once or twice while operating and had to do the same
thing (I also have a TS440) but the problem seemed to disappear. I never had
a chance to troubleshoot because it never returned.
Is it likely that it might have something to do with hanging relay or with RF
getting into something through a cord??? I didn't ask him how well his shack
is grounded, but he has not had any problems with his TenTec Century.....
I put a note out on packet and received two suggestions... one was stray RF
and the other was thermal.... BTW, his shack is out in a cold garage... but
that doesn't explain MY problem as mine is in the comfort of the family room
and my shack is very well grounded from the standpoint of RF.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions..... Bill
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 13:56:48 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!news1.oakland.edu!vela.acs.oakland.edu!prvalko@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: using a radio off frequency in emergencies
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Steve,
In a real life and death situation, do YOU really care?
I'd be happy to pay a $10,000 fine, forfeit a rig or even a license if
it meant saving my family.
73 paul wb8zjl
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 14:51:05 GMT
From: pacbell.com!att-out!cbnewst!waco@ames.arpa
Subject: using a radio off frequency in emergencies
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <CHByrp.JzC@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jeg7e@lambda.itc.
irginia.EDU (Jon Gefaell) writes
> [snip, snip]
>
>Just be prepared to prove that it was necessary. Emergencies like needing
>a tow are not as extreme as someone with life threatening injuries or
>the threat of large scale property damage (like a house on fire, etc)
>and of course you'll need to prove there was no other reasonable means
>of communication available.
The rules, the text of which I posted last week, do not address the
severity of threat. They only specify threat to life or property.
A few years ago I came upon a lady withy a disabled car on the shoulder
of I90 in the western Chicago suburbs during rush hour. Being parked on
the shoulder of an expressway is a danger to both life and property. I
used the autopatch to try to to contact a gas station that could provide
her service under her auto club (Chicago Motor Club). I was unable to do
contact one, so I called the state police and they agreed to contact a gas
station that could provide her with service.
I was chastised by one or more hams on the repeater when I did this. I
broke no rules and advised them of this. In subsequent conversations with
hams who are very familiar with the rules, I found agreement with that
my actions were proper.
>Probably a pretty difficult thing to do...
>
> [snip, snip]
73,
John, WB9VGJ
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 12:24:52 +0200
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!news.funet.fi!butler.cc.tut.fi!lehtori.cc.tut.fi!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com>, <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, <2dd98f$ai7@news.acns.nwu.edu>t
Subject : Re: Calculating SWR
Rajiv Dewan (rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
> In article <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>,
> James Morris <jmorris@mu.apana.org.au> wrote:
> >In article <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com> lawrence@combdyn.com writes:
> >>
> >>How do you calculate SWR? I have a power meter...and I can measure the forward
> >>and reflected power. How to I take the two values to determine the SWR?
> >>
> >>Right now I have forward power of 5 Watts and reflected power of 0.1 Watts,
> >>what SWR would that correspond to?
If you get only about 2 % back of your initial power, you still get
about 98 % in the desired direction or less than 0.1 dB missmatch loss.
Why even bother to calculate the SWR in this case.
> Short: Let rho = sqrt(reverse power/forward power) = sqrt(0.1/5)
> = sqrt(0.02) = 0.1414
>
> swr = (1 + rho)/(1 - rho) = 1.414/0.8586 = 1.65
I think Rajiv intended to write
swr = (1 + rho)/(1 - rho) = 1.1414/0.8586 = 1.33
^^^
Tunning this 1.33:1 SWR down to 1:1 will only increase the forward
power by less than 0.1 dB and thus it is hardly justified to try to
get down to 1:1. It would be much better if the "SWR-meters" where
calibrated in the reverse/forward power ratio and not in SWR. It would
be easier to undersrand what is going on in the transmission line.
Paul OH3LWR
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 12:22:41 -0500
From: swrinde!sgiblab!darwin.sura.net!opusc!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2651@arrl.org>, <2ddmdpINNqom@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, <CHAJ4E.63H@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject : Re: Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elmers are dead, god help us hams!)
In <CHAJ4E.63H@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Blum) writes:
>ARGH!
>Maybe I didn't explain my first QSO very well.........
>
>I listened for a few minutes.....
>I -waited- for a break in the convo to give my "N9VLS monitoring" call....
>(I know that doubling over someone is a Bad Thing.)
>I knew I had a chance when one ham said he was pulling into a gas station,
>and away from his mike.....
>And, they weren't ragging me about being a lazy nocode.
>They were quite happy to see me on the air.
>It was a FUN welcome.
SOME of us got it the FIRST TIME!
Thanks for a good story and WELCOME!
73
David, AD4HM
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