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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 24 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1380

Today's Topics:
     Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 17 November
                      DAYTON 94 - info please ?
              grounding the MFJ-16010 Rndom Wire Tuner?
                        info on Alinco DJ-162
                        Mag Mount Paint Damage
                        MISS MANNERS IN THE N
                          modifiable radios
                       re:CONELRAD-what was it?
                       Source for FCC 610 form?
                          Time to get ticket
             WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning
                         WEFAX and the KPC-3

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 23:07:55 MST
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 17 November
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                17 NOVEMBER, 1993

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
------------------------------------------------------------

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 321, 11/17/93
10.7 FLUX=100.0  90-AVG=093        SSN=057      BKI=3100 0032  BAI=005
BGND-XRAY=B1.2     FLU1=1.4E+05  FLU10=1.2E+04  PKI=2111 2133  PAI=006
  BOU-DEV=033,005,000,003,003,002,023,015   DEV-AVG=011 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B3.8   @ 1840UT    XRAY-MIN= B1.0   @ 0103UT   XRAY-AVG= B1.4
NEUTN-MAX= +003%  @ 2030UT   NEUTN-MIN= -001%  @ 1130UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.4%
  PCA-MAX= +0.0DB @ 2355UT     PCA-MIN= -0.6DB @ 1345UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55362NT @ 2356UT   BOUTF-MIN=55337NT @ 2031UT  BOUTF-AVG=55355NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+065,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+113NT@ 1849UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-062NT@ 1041UT  G6-AVG=+086,+018,-034
 FLUXFCST=STD:100,100,100;SESC:100,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=020,015,010/020,015,010
    KFCST=3334 4333 2225 5221  27DAY-AP=007,011   27DAY-KP=1223 3220 4332 2332
 WARNINGS=*SWF
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 16 NOV 93 was  44.0.
      The Full Kp Indices for 16 NOV 93 are: 3- 2o 3- 3-   2o 2o 1o 2- 


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was very low.  Region 7618 (N09E07) has
       shown some white light growth since yesterday, but overall this
       region has remained relatively stable.  The remainder of the
       disk is spotless.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       low to moderate.  Region 7618 is expected to produce C-class
       and isolated M-class activity.

            The geomagnetic field has been at mostly quiet levels for the
       past 24 hours.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  for day one, the
       geomagnetic field is expected to be at mostly active levels in
       response to a favorably located coronal hole.  The field on
       days two and three is expected to be at mostly unsettled
       levels.

            Event probabilities 18 nov-20 nov

                             Class M    50/50/50
                             Class X    05/05/05
                             Proton     05/05/05
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 18 nov-20 nov

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                30/30/10
                        Minor Storm           25/25/05
                        Major-Severe Storm    10/10/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                45/35/20
                        Minor Storm           20/15/05
                        Major-Severe Storm    10/10/01

            HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
       Minor deterioration of signal qualities for transpolar and
       transauroral circuits is expected over the next 24 to 48 hours
       with greatest instabilities expected during the local night and
       sunrise sectors.  Middle and low latitude paths should remain
       near-normal with possibly only slightly increased levels of
       night-sector fading and multipathing over the higher latitude
       paths.  Conditions should return to near-normal over all
       regions by 20 November.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 17/2400Z NOVEMBER
-----------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7618  N09E07  338  0650 DKI  10  047 BETA
7616  N11W59  046                    PLAGE
7619  N10W58  045                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 18 NOVEMBER TO 20 NOVEMBER
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
-------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP SWF
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
-----------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 17/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
16 Nov: 0002  0019  0039  B3.2                                         
        0456  0458  0501  B3.0                                         
        0907  0912  0915  C1.0  SF  7618  N10E30                       
        0929  0933  0937  B4.2                                         
        1039  1042  1044  B2.6                                         
        2322  2326  2335  B2.6                                         
        2349  2353  2356  B1.7                                         


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
  Region 7618:  1   0   0     1   0   0   0   0    001  (14.3)
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    006  (85.7)

 Total Events: 007 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 09:45:52 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!Q.icl.co.uk!dsbc!iclbra!prs@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: DAYTON 94 - info please ?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hello

I'm going to be in the states in April or May next year. Can anyone tell
me when the Dayton event takes place. Anyone have any details of the event ?

E-mail direct any replies.

tnx

73

Peter
G0PUB

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 03:07:30 GMT
From: news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@uunet.uu.net
Subject: grounding the MFJ-16010 Rndom Wire Tuner?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

What's the best way to ground the MFJ-16010 Random Wire Tuner (ie, where
on the tuner).  THis is my situation:  When I'm tuning up to the dummy
load, my SWR meter registers decent SWR.  But when I tune up to my random
wire, it registers  straight 1:1 SWR--no matter wht settings I use on the
tuner.
 Any thoughts?  Is this caused by lack of a decent ground, and if so,
will grounding help, or no?

Tnx es 73 de doug, n0yvw

-- 
__  /|  | Douglas J Renze, N0YVW  | I just finished reading Joe Haldeman's "All
\'o.O'  | +1 319 337 4664         | My Sins Remembered."  I've felt a lot of
=(___)= | drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu  | emotions from books, but this is the first
   U    | Douglas-Renze@uiowa.edu | time I've felt the need to purge myself.

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Date: 23 Nov 93 21:46:45 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!pachner@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: info on Alinco DJ-162
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I just purchased an Alinco DJ-162TD. I was wondering if there are any mods
available for the out of band recieve. Also, this unit might be used as a
Civil air Patrol radio for my dad, so are there any out of band transmit
mods. Thanks for any info.

-- 
Thomas Jay Pachner -=- Music Major, Bassist, Gamer, and Amateur Operator 
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee - pachner@csd4.csd.uwm.edu 
BARNEY MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!
Amateur Call Sign:  N9UUJ

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 13:01:59 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Mag Mount Paint Damage
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article 7530@nic.csu.net, David Van Nuys <vannuysd@sonoma.edu> writes:
}I notice that my two-meter mag mount is leaving rings on the paint of my
}trunk.  Has anyone got any tips for preserving the paint and still using
}a mag mount?
}
}Please send e-mail.  Thanks.
}
}David
}AB6XR

I use the corner from a large "Zip Lock" bag under mine. Be careful not just
to use any plastic bag, some will damage the paint when exposed to sunlight.

73,
Bruce, WB4YUC, el YUCCO. . .

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 10:07:36 
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: MISS MANNERS IN THE N
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 > Abosolutely, I agree that we should drop by the N/T segments often and
 > offer a friendly hand.

 Experienced hams: PLEASE heed this advice and come to the Novice CW bands!

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:40:53 GMT
From: ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@seismo.css.gov
Subject: modifiable radios
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <754069539.AA01628@rochgte.fidonet.org>, David.Stark@p2.f333.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark) writes:
|>... 
|> Why, you ask, is the '24AT et al an endangered species?  Because they violate
|> the new TDDRA and can be "easily modified" to receive cellular telephone
|> calls.  Folks, we are already riding down the "slippery slope" to the end of
|> hobby radio as we know it.
|> 

I would not expect any of the manufacturers of amateur equipment to drop
any radios because of the TDDRA - unless they are due to be dropped
anyway.  Most manufacturers of amateur (and scanner) equipment will most
likely revise the firmware/CPU so that it does not allow for modifications
to receive cellular.  Radio SHack has already announced (or hinted) that the
PRO-2006 will be replaced with the PRO-2007 and the PRO-43 will be replaced
by the PRO-43A.  In both cases, the major change will be the firmware/CPU...

The TTDRA does not address the ability of dual conversion radios to easily
monitor cellular images.  I have heard rumblings that Radio Shack MAY drop
all dual conversion 800 Mhz scanners in anticipation that the FCC will
ammend the TDDRA to specifically address dual conversion images.
-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Tom Bodoh - Sr. systems software engineer, Hughes STX, N0YGT                +
+ USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198     (605) 594-6830      +
+ Internet; bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov (152.61.192.66)         +
+ "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P       +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: 23 Nov 93 23:22:39 GMT
From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mac33@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: re:CONELRAD-what was it?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <CGvotM.8un@freenet.carleton.ca>, ab510@Freenet.carleton.ca
(George W. Attallah) wrote:
> 
> 
> I have an early 50s bc reciever with triangular symbols at 640 and 1240 khz.
> I have been told that these were for CONELRAD.  Are there any old timers
> out there who can fill me in on this?  TNX.
> 
> -- 
> GEORGE ATTALLAH-"THE LAST SURVIVOR OF THE GROUP OF ONE"

I think it was an ancient precursor of the Emergency Broadcast System (or
whatever the Canadian equivalent might be). Are you sure your Jurassic
radio is marked in kilohertz? In those days I think they were still talking
about "kilocycles."

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Date: 23 Nov 93 05:16:56 GMT
From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spinnaker.jpl.nasa.gov!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Source for FCC 610 form?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In response to my original posting, the most popular methods for obtaining
a 610 form are:

1) Ask your local Volunteer Examiner group

2) Send a SASE to the ARRL at:
        ARRL
        Special Requests - FCC Form 610
        225 Main St
        Newington CT 06111

Bart Jahnke <bjahnke@arrl.org> mentions that:
> Generally, few if any FCC offices now have the 610 form.  Even if they did,
> the FCC's policy has been to handle all forms distribution through a
> contractor they use who is located in Maryland.  

and Luck Hurder <lhurder@arrl.org> says:
> FCC requires/demands that 610 forms be on a SPECIFIC colored,
> SPECIFIC weight paper.  It's not something that can be just
> placed on disk and let loose.

So it seems that keeping a PostScript version on line somewhere is out of
the question.

Thanks and 73 to all who responded,

-- 
Leif J. Harcke, N3EEN
Leif_J_Harcke@jpl.nasa.gov

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Date: 24 Nov 93 03:21:12 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Time to get ticket
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Several comments in last few months about time it takes US FCC to issue
amateur licenses.  Several folks passed along their "results" calendars. 
They all left off the final relevant date.

Me:
Tested 30 Aug 93  (930830, 8/30/93,  30.8.93 -- whatever)
License dated 5 Oct 93
Received 7 Oct 93

Here's the REAL kicker:
First mailing list mail received   23 Nov 93
Guaranteed to be from FCC file because of minor coded addition in address
used on mailing label.

It was from Amateur Electronic Supply, Milwaukee.   
Sharp marketing, AES!

Paul Marsh    N0ZAU   (buried under junk mail)   in Omaha
pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:17:04 MST
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                      POTENTIAL SATELLITE ANOMALY WARNING

                        ISSUED: 16:30 UT, 18 NOVEMBER

                    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

     The following report is experimental.  We would like to solicit
     comments on the usefulness of satellite anomaly warning reports
     (specifically warning of geosynchronous magnetopause crossings).

ATTENTION:

     A sudden magnetic impulse of 16 nT marked the arrival of a disturbance
at 12:11 UTC on 18 November.  The field at geosynchronous altitudes was
jolted by approximately 22 nT, afterwhich generally active geomagnetic
conditions prevailed.  However, magnetospheric ram pressure has increased
over the last hour and is resulting in sufficient magnetospheric compression
to produce magnetopause crossings by geosynchronous satellites.  Both GOES-6
and GOES-7 have penetrated the magnetopause and are still within the
magnetosheath as of 16:30 UTC.

     Geosynchronous satellites may suffer additional magnetopause crossings
over the next 12 hours.


**  End of Warning  **

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Date: 22 Nov 1993 09:35:57 -0600
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!concert!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!kharker@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: WEFAX and the KPC-3
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

     I am trying to decode some WEFAX transmissions on HF using my KPC-3
TNC.  I am currently on a DOS box, and I am using a program called AUTOFAX
written specifically for the Kantronics line of TNCs.  Basically, the KPC-3
can be sent the command WEFAX, which will cause it to start decoding the
audio it is receiving into black or white pixel values.  AUTOFAX is written
as a basic terminal program that can send the TNC the WEFAX command and jump
into a graphics mode of displaying the pixels.
     Well, so far all I have been able to get is regular patterns of static.  
The radio I am using is my old reliable DX-440 (Sangean ATS-803A) shortwave 
receiver.  The connection to the TNC is made using the same cable that I 
connect my borrowed Yaesu handheld to the TNC for VHF packet, and goes into 
the DX-440's headphone output jack.
     One of the problems with this setup may be the radio.  The DX-440 has 
a one kHz tuning resolution.  According to the KPC-3 manual, the way to 
tune in WEFAX transmissions is to tune 1.7 kHz below the listed frequency,
and tune in on upper sideband.  I can do the the upper sideband part, but
the closest I come to the proper tuning for 8080 kHz (which means you would
really want to tune 8078.3 kHz) is either 8078 kHz or 8079 kHz.  It's also
possible that none of the frequencies listed in the KPC-3 manual were
broadcasting at the time I tried it (around 0400 UTC) or that my location
in north central Texas is just bad for WEFAX.  It's also possible that the
DX-440 just can't cut it.

    So, I am asking for any critiques/comments on my setup - anything that
might help.  Something like perhaps a simple circuit to raise the input freq 
by 0.3 kHz?  Or maybe someone could send me a WEFAX sked they know to be 
valid?  Anything to help would be appreciated.
-- 
======================================================================
Kenneth E. Harker             BNR              "Any opinions expressed
 kharker@bnr.ca      Richardson, Texas, USA     are solely mine and do
     N1PVB               (214) 684-5115         not represent BNR"
======================================================================

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 14:42:17 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!lkollar@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1993Nov16.201718.1832@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, <CGnHLz.Ioo@odin.corp.sgi.com>, <henrysCGq0vC.J60@netcom.com>.edu
Subject : Re: CW abbreviations


henrys@netcom.com (Henry B. Smith) writes:

>Maybe we need a q signal for "Who was just sending CQ?" and "I hear
>you guys signing, so who's left?". 

How about QCQ?  Is it taken?  I think "QRZ?" would fit this situation as
well; I've heard it done once or twice.

I've heard -- and used -- question marks to fill in missing characters in
a call:

 W?7XYZ DE KC4WZK KC4WZK KN

For the other situation, I try to listen & figure out which one just got
a dinner call or whatever, and call the other one after the "dit dit."
That works about half the time.  I figure the rest of the time the person I
tried to call also pulled the switch, spun the dial or whatever.

For myself, I've learned to wait around a few seconds after finishing a QSO
ever since I had someone jump in to tell me I was 30 over 9 in Columbia. :-)


Wondering how one gets a new Q-signal approved, I am --
--
Larry Kollar, KC4WZK   | I like CW, but that doesn't mean I think every ham
lkollar@nyx.cs.du.edu  | should have to learn it.
               "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:44:00 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!martha.utcc.utk.edu!utkvx.utk.edu!rwerner@decwrl.dec.com
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CGp8ry.B9G@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, <1993Nov19.142433.19962@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, <CGwLJ5.4K8@fc.hp.com>du
Subject : Re: CW QSO's, New hams who need practice read this!!

In article <CGwLJ5.4K8@fc.hp.com>, dave@fc.hp.com (Dave Hodge) writes...
>Add me to the CW contact list.  At the moment I'm limited to 10/15/20/40,
>but I hope to add 80 soon.  My comfort level is about 10 wpm, but slower
>is fine, of course.  All I ask in return is a QSL card if your contact
>is a new state/mode or state/band for me.
> 
>Send mail, and we can set up a schedule.
> 
>--
> 
>Dave Hodge KF0XD  Hewlett Packard
>dave@hpfcdjh.fc.hp.com  User-Interface Hardware Lab
>(303) 229-2141 (voice)  Advanced Systems Division
>(303) 229-4515 (FAX)  Ft. Collins, CO
Yep, add me also.  My call KC4URW.  Give me an idea of times and freq.  I'm
usually home after 6pm.  
Return mail to:  RWERNER@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
-.. .  -.- -.-. ....- ..- .-. .--     ... -.-

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:20:11 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <CGvotM.8un@freenet.carleton.ca>, <arog.753969080@BIX.com>, <1993Nov23.113409.29442@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Re: CONELRAD-what was it?

In article <1993Nov23.113409.29442@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>[CONELRAD] was a nice theory, but it didn't work in practice because ...
>[Long, cogent explanation deleted]

>The new EBS system is different. It's primarily a defined network
> [Long, cogent technical explanation and description of usage policy deleted]

Alright, I give up.

Is Gary Coffman (a) A huge computer data base with a natural language 
interface; (b) the pseudonym for a group of half a dozen experts in
a dozen different disciplines; or (3) a dilettante in the Charles Darwin
mold, only with even more interests and much better sources?

The quality and quantity of his output would be incredible even if this 
were the only newsgroup he posts to. But there's at least one more that
I know of, and maybe more as well.

I sure hope somebody has backup tapes for this guy.

-- Bruce Toback

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