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Info-Hams Digest Sun, 21 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1372
Today's Topics:
Cleartone CMU-350 manual needed.
How do I contact Yaesu
How do I contact Yaesu?
Manual needed, Cleartone CMU-350
ORBS$323.MISC.AMSAT (2 msgs)
ORBS$323.OSCAR.AMSAT
Submitting Sweepstakes via Internet
Using modified HT in emergency (2 msgs)
zero-beating
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 00:39:32 +0000
From: news.sprintlink.net!demon!sound.demon.co.uk!Delta@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Cleartone CMU-350 manual needed.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello fellow netters,
My 70cm radio has just given up the ghost, and I need a service manual
or even a copy of the schematic so I can fix it.
It is an ex-pmr radio manufactured by ClearTone. Model CMU-350
Any help appreciated. Looks like the VCO has died.....
73,
Steve
#------------------------------------------------#
| <*> Steve K Brown <*> |
| |
| Internet : delta@sound.demon.co.uk |
| WAPOWnet : Steve Brown, 42:69/2@WAPOW |
| WorldNet : Steve Brown, 64:7000/24@WORLDNET |
| BBS : Delta BBS, +44 (0)252 546545 24hr |
| Packet : G1WMD @ GB7VIR |
| Voice : 0252-546542 |
| AnsaFone : 0252-547551 24Hr |
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:27:29 GMT
From: pacbell.com!att-out!cbnewst!waco@ames.arpa
Subject: How do I contact Yaesu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:57:03 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!mcrcim.mcgill.edu!sifon!athena.ulaval.ca!VM1.ulaval.ca!DESGAGNE@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: How do I contact Yaesu?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <dmadsen.753578309@vincent1.iastate.edu> dmadsen@iastate.edu (Dean R Madsen) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Path: athena.ulaval.ca!sifon!newsflash.concordia.ca!utcsri!utnut!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!vincent1.iastate.edu!dmadsen
>From: dmadsen@iastate.edu (Dean R Madsen)
>Subject: How do I contact Yaesu?
>Message-ID: <dmadsen.753578309@vincent1.iastate.edu>
>Summary: need Yaesu's service dept. phone number
>Keywords: Yaesu phone number
>Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
>Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 23:18:29 GMT
>Lines: 22
>I have a Yaesu FT-470 that has a terrible intermod problem and less than
>desirable squelch operation. I need a phone number to contact Yaesu to
>investigate getting this repaired. I found a list of manufacturers' phone
>numbers, but none of the ones listed for Yaesu were current. Does anyone have
>a recent phone number for Yaesu U.S.A. ?
Yaesu USA (California): 310-404-2700
Marc Desgagne, VE2AAF Desgagne@VM1.ULAVAL.CA
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 23:54:59 +0000
From: news.sprintlink.net!demon!sound.demon.co.uk!Delta@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Manual needed, Cleartone CMU-350
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello and thanks for reading this.
I urgently need a copy or loan of a service manual or schemetic for a
pmr radio thats (was) used for mail-forwarding on my bbs.
Its a Cleartone CMU-350, UHF 10 channel synth radio.
Any help appreciated!
#------------------------------------------------#
| <*> Steve K Brown <*> |
| |
| Internet : delta@sound.demon.co.uk |
| WAPOWnet : Steve Brown, 42:69/2@WAPOW |
| WorldNet : Steve Brown, 64:7000/24@WORLDNET |
| BBS : Delta BBS, +44 (0)252 546545 24hr |
| Packet : G1WMD @ GB7VIR |
| Voice : 0252-546542 |
| AnsaFone : 0252-547551 24Hr |
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Date: 21 Nov 93 20:09:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$323.MISC.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-323.M
Orbital Elements 323.MISC
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 19, 1993
BID: $ORBS-323.M
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
Satellite: MIR
Catalog number: 16609
Epoch time: 93321.57070583
Element set: 586
Inclination: 51.6139 deg
RA of node: 168.8603 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0005214
Arg of perigee: 358.7317 deg
Mean anomaly: 0.6246 deg
Mean motion: 15.58545846 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.939e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 44304
Checksum: 317
Satellite: HUBBLE
Catalog number: 20580
Epoch time: 93320.38852573
Element set: 362
Inclination: 28.4687 deg
RA of node: 163.2233 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0004748
Arg of perigee: 200.0009 deg
Mean anomaly: 160.0464 deg
Mean motion: 14.92922012 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.48e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 19427
Checksum: 277
Satellite: GRO
Catalog number: 21225
Epoch time: 93321.24933334
Element set: 222
Inclination: 28.4618 deg
RA of node: 264.6526 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0074975
Arg of perigee: 90.1642 deg
Mean anomaly: 270.7885 deg
Mean motion: 15.58731637 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.8416e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 2420
Checksum: 299
Satellite: UARS
Catalog number: 21701
Epoch time: 93315.59270845
Element set: 412
Inclination: 56.9842 deg
RA of node: 310.8939 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0005642
Arg of perigee: 92.8950 deg
Mean anomaly: 267.4094 deg
Mean motion: 14.96195848 rev/day
Decay rate: -1.996e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 11836
Checksum: 336
Satellite: POSAT
Catalog number: 22829
Epoch time: 93289.11726978
Element set: 204
Inclination: 98.6763 deg
RA of node: 2.0610 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0010043
Arg of perigee: 184.4594 deg
Mean anomaly: 175.6498 deg
Mean motion: 14.27975951 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 286
Checksum: 317
/EX
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Date: 19 Nov 93 13:46:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$323.MISC.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-323.M
Orbital Elements 323.MISC
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 19, 1993
BID: $ORBS-323.M
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
Satellite: MIR
Catalog number: 16609
Epoch time: 93321.57070583
Element set: 586
Inclination: 51.6139 deg
RA of node: 168.8603 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0005214
Arg of perigee: 358.7317 deg
Mean anomaly: 0.6246 deg
Mean motion: 15.58545846 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.939e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 44304
Checksum: 317
Satellite: HUBBLE
Catalog number: 20580
Epoch time: 93320.38852573
Element set: 362
Inclination: 28.4687 deg
RA of node: 163.2233 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0004748
Arg of perigee: 200.0009 deg
Mean anomaly: 160.0464 deg
Mean motion: 14.92922012 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.48e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 19427
Checksum: 277
Satellite: GRO
Catalog number: 21225
Epoch time: 93321.24933334
Element set: 222
Inclination: 28.4618 deg
RA of node: 264.6526 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0074975
Arg of perigee: 90.1642 deg
Mean anomaly: 270.7885 deg
Mean motion: 15.58731637 rev/day
Decay rate: 1.8416e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 2420
Checksum: 299
Satellite: UARS
Catalog number: 21701
Epoch time: 93315.59270845
Element set: 412
Inclination: 56.9842 deg
RA of node: 310.8939 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0005642
Arg of perigee: 92.8950 deg
Mean anomaly: 267.4094 deg
Mean motion: 14.96195848 rev/day
Decay rate: -1.996e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 11836
Checksum: 336
Satellite: POSAT
Catalog number: 22829
Epoch time: 93289.11726978
Element set: 204
Inclination: 98.6763 deg
RA of node: 2.0610 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0010043
Arg of perigee: 184.4594 deg
Mean anomaly: 175.6498 deg
Mean motion: 14.27975951 rev/day
Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 286
Checksum: 317
/EX
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Date: 19 Nov 93 13:37:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$323.OSCAR.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-323.O
Orbital Elements 323.OSCAR
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 19, 1993
BID: $ORBS-323.O
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
Satellite: AO-10
Catalog number: 14129
Epoch time: 93321.57691393
Element set: 211
Inclination: 27.1956 deg
RA of node: 355.7539 deg
Eccentricity: 0.6019652
Arg of perigee: 131.0023 deg
Mean anomaly: 299.1524 deg
Mean motion: 2.05880635 rev/day
Decay rate: -1.12e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 7841
Checksum: 293
Satellite: UO-11
Catalog number: 14781
Epoch time: 93320.59791365
Element set: 612
Inclination: 97.7971 deg
RA of node: 340.1743 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0010901
Arg of perigee: 227.3657 deg
Mean anomaly: 132.6634 deg
Mean motion: 14.69084435 rev/day
Decay rate: 2.24e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 51909
Checksum: 310
Satellite: RS-10/11
Catalog number: 18129
Epoch time: 93320.53837545
Element set: 812
Inclination: 82.9209 deg
RA of node: 126.0240 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0010352
Arg of perigee: 256.4589 deg
Mean anomaly: 103.5413 deg
Mean motion: 13.72326438 rev/day
Decay rate: 6.1e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 32074
Checksum: 277
Satellite: AO-13
Catalog number: 19216
Epoch time: 93315.34314830
Element set: 813
Inclination: 57.8997 deg
RA of node: 284.7483 deg
Eccentricity: 0.7226538
Arg of perigee: 327.9276 deg
Mean anomaly: 3.4613 deg
Mean motion: 2.09719999 rev/day
Decay rate: -5.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 4143
Checksum: 336
Satellite: FO-20
Catalog number: 20480
Epoch time: 93310.07362541
Element set: 607
Inclination: 99.0217 deg
RA of node: 139.2984 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0541030
Arg of perigee: 125.0547 deg
Mean anomaly: 240.2545 deg
Mean motion: 12.83221816 rev/day
Decay rate: -5.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 17551
Checksum: 267
Satellite: AO-21
Catalog number: 21087
Epoch time: 93320.47796564
Element set: 368
Inclination: 82.9418 deg
RA of node: 300.1208 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0034449
Arg of perigee: 319.1873 deg
Mean anomaly: 40.6687 deg
Mean motion: 13.74528168 rev/day
Decay rate: 8.4e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 14036
Checksum: 318
Satellite: RS-12/13
Catalog number: 21089
Epoch time: 93317.61990766
Element set: 612
Inclination: 82.9233 deg
RA of node: 171.3110 deg
Eccentricity: 0.0029494
Arg of perigee: 351.2997 deg
Mean anomaly: 8.7626 deg
Mean motion: 13.74029180 rev/day
Decay rate: 4.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 13904
Checksum: 305
Satellite: ARSENE
Catalog number: 22654
Epoch time: 93319.82294071
Element set: 209
Inclination: 1.4256 deg
RA of node: 113.1022 deg
Eccentricity: 0.2930832
Arg of perigee: 161.7997 deg
Mean anomaly: 211.8626 deg
Mean motion: 1.42202608 rev/day
Decay rate: -5.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev: 272
Checksum: 263
/EX
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Date: 21 Nov 93 13:04:12 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!mrtnt.ntrs.com!tntvax!ddb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Submitting Sweepstakes via Internet
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I would like to submit my Sweepstakes log via internet (contest@arrl.org)
What is the format of the entry?
What should the 'summary sheet file' look like and also the log file?
According to QST there is a 'suggested standard file format.'
- Thanks in advance - Dan Bowker NY9K
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:22:52 GMT
From: news.sprintlink.net!crash!telesoft!garym@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Using modified HT in emergency
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In <103360208@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein) writes:
>> Does anyone have any comments?
>1. I doubt the sheriff had the authority to confiscate the modified HT.
> Probably the FCC could levy such a penalty, but not the sheriff.
The SO did not confiscate the HT, what I heard was that Chris was given a
choice, the FCC would either prosecute him for using an unauthorized
frequency with a possible penalty of one year in jail and/or $100,000 fine
or he could "donate" his HT to RACES.
>2. It is legal to modify a radio.
I don't think the modified radio is the issue here at all.
>3. Has your friend considered making a stink to the media?
There have been two articles in the San Diego Union, they are on the bulletin
board at HRO. Here is a summary of the first one, I don't have a copy of the
second article.
The article states that everyone acknowledges that it was the ``act of a
good Samaritan.'' but that ``authorities confiscated Chris Boyer's portable
ham radio last month after he used it to obtain emergency medical help for a
seriously injured friend.'' It states that he ran into trouble because he
called for help on a Sheriff's Department frequency that he isn't authorized
to transmit on. They quote William Grigsby, engineer in charge of the San
Diego FCC office: ``"Under the regulatory scheme, ... this kind of
operation by persons who are not authorized is strictly prohibited,'' he is
also quoted to say that ``We can't have a situation where everyone who wants
to have a transmitter on the police or sheriff's frequency can, if this
continues, we're going to have chaos for the law enforcement system.''
It states that Boyer tried to get help on five other repeaters but couldn't
get anyone, they also tried a cellular phone but couldn't connect because
they were ``in a ravine, toward the bottom of a canyon''. He then rode up
the trail a half mile and tried again from a better spot but still couldn't
get through, at that point they decided to try the SO frequency. The article
says `` "I look and this guy's bleeding, he's taken a head trauma," Boyer
said. "I came on, gave my call sign - I wasn't trying to hide - and said,
'I'm a radio amateur with emergency traffic.' The dispatcher said, 'Go
ahead.'" ''
Two weeks later, he got a letter from Bill Kahn (communications coordinator)
for the SO, telling him to meet with Kahn and an FCC person. He was given
the choice of having to ``forfeit'' or be prosecuted by the federal
government.
There are several quotes from different people including this one
from county Supervisor Dianne Jacob, who represents that part of the county.
``"The frequencies are protected for public-safety emergencies," Jacob said.
"Well, this individual had an emergency.''... ``"I think anyone in the
same circumstances, including myself, would do the same thing."''
In the second article I think there was a story about how Kahn had used
his SO radio to request help when he got hurt while off duty out in the back
country. I think it also quoted all the part 97.403 and mentioned that
Chris Boyer now had an attorney and was going to fight to get his radio back.
I'll try to borrow it to post a summary if there is sufficient interest.
--GaryM
--
Gary Morris KK6YB Internet: garym@alsys.com
San Diego, CA USA Phone: +1 619-457-2700 x128 (work)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 11:48:25 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!gateway-gw!newshost!wpns@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Using modified HT in emergency
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
nimtz.1@nd.edu (Rick Nimtz) writes:
>Last night on the RACES/ARES net someone read an article about a ham that
>used his HT to contact the sheriff department to summon help for his
>injured friend. They were hiking or something like that in a remote area.
>It seems that his friend had fallen and was badly injured.
>
>Emergency help arrived and his friend was taken to the hospital. The ham
>wasn't so lucky. The sheriff department had him state that he used the
>police frequency illegally and persuaded him to surrender his modified
>HT. It was not mentioned if the FCC got involved or not.
OK, so he got help for his injured friend at the cost to him of an HT.
He buys another HT (or his friend buys him one), modifies it for OOB
operation, and life goes on. Sounds like a fair solution...
--
Willie Smith wpns@pictel.com N1JBJ@amsat.org
She's writing a formal letter of complaint to the Internet Administration!
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 15:19:00 GMT
From: olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@uunet.uu.net
Subject: zero-beating
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2ceht6INN4dl@emx.cc.utexas.edu>, oo7@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes:
...stuff deleted...
|> On the TS-830S, and many other rigs, the sidetone is at this pitch.
|> If you are desperate and don't have perfect pitch or a sidetone, use
|> a tuning fork or a bell or something.
|>
|> The other way is to call CQ a lot and average the pitch of all the
|> replies you get. This assumes that other people know how to zero-
|> beat, or at least that they don't all call consistently high or low.
|> I don't recommend this approach.
|>
|>
|> Derek "boing!" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
|> Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
|> Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
|> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
Probably get a Gaussian Distribution and a lot of data. :-)
Tuning Fork - a fork used on people who tune up on frequency.
Stick 'em hard and stick 'em deep. :-)
Sorry, the devil made me do it.
Thanks to Derek "no middle name" Wills, PhD and a G3 to boot.
BTW - am I supposed to answer to the calls that I get back? :-)
Remember Derek, turkey day is not too far away. Gig 'em Aggies.
Where is that fork?
--
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
adams@sgi.com
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 01:23:18 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CGMqAI.2J0@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1993Nov18.135508.3660@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Subject : Morse as a language (was Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?)
Gary, you got lost somewhere in reading my post; I think of Morse as
an aural language - I write nothing down. I hear, not individual letters,
but entire words. There is no mechanical skill involved. Now, with that
in mind, go back and reread what I said - it will make much more sense to
you. And keep practicing to improve your code speed; once you hit 20
you'll agree it is a language (then you won't have to waste so much of
your time with anti-code articles). [Note the follow-up]
Jeff NH6IL
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:35:57 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Nov16.043632.12907@icaen.uiowa.edu>, <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1993Nov18.034401.1913@mulvey.com>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?
In article <1993Nov18.034401.1913@mulvey.com> rich@mulvey.com writes:
>Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
>
>: On the other hand, if neither of the stations were Novice, or coded Tech,
>: licensees, then the behavior *was* somewhat rude.
>
> I wouldn't say that. As a tech+ for a few months, I've spent all of
>my time running QRP-CW on 40 meters. It's all well and fine to crank
>along at 5-10WPM, but I'm MUCH more interested in having QSO's with
>higher-speed operators who push my limits and help me to increase my
>speed. Since I'm currently limited to the Novice bands, I find myself
>somewhat thankful for the 20wpm operators who actually take the time to
>help me, instead of letting me copy the mistakes of other newbies like
>myself. :-)
Sure, absolutely, that's what I said. Read it again. If *neither*
party were Novice/Tech+ then I think it's rude for them to occupy
the tiny band segment allocated to N/T when they have plenty of
alternative space available. However, if *either* of the parties
were N/T, then they were obviously in the right place since the
N/T *couldn't* operate anywhere else. It's great when experienced
hams go to the N/T segments to give a contact to N/Ts, what's not
so great is when they go there and chat with non-N/Ts and tie up
the limited spectrum available to N/Ts.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | Where my job's going, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | I don't know. It might | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | wind up in Mexico. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -NAFTA Blues |
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
Yaesu U.S.A
17210 Edwards Road
Cerritos, CA 90701
Tel: (310) 404-2700 or 4828
Fax: (310) 404-1210
The catalog has this information for AEA, Alinco, Ameritron, Comet, Cushcraft,
Hustler, Kantronics, ICOM, JRC, Kenwood U.S.A., Larsen, MFJ, RF Parts,
Mirage/KLM, RF Concepts, Standard and Startek.
73,
John, WB9VGJ
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AT&T | 1200 E. Warrenville Rd.
| P.O. Box 3045
| Naperville, IL 60566-7045
| (708) 713-4319
| e-mail: john.l.broughton@att.com
| att!john.l.broughton
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:18:53 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1993Nov16.043632.12907@icaen.uiowa.edu>, <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CGnIGy.L7M@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?
In article <CGnIGy.L7M@odin.corp.sgi.com> adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) writes:
>In article gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
>|> In article drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze) writes:
>|> >I've got a little question. I was tuning across the 80-meter novice subband
>|> >tonight, and right at 3700kHz I noticed a QSO taking place at 20+ WPM.
>...stuff deleted...
>|> On the other hand, if neither of the stations were Novice, or coded Tech,
>|> licensees, then the behavior *was* somewhat rude.
>
>How can two stations having a QSO be rude? It sounds like they were
>carrying on a QSO without interferring with anyone else. They were
>within the rules and regs set down by the FCC. I didn't hear anyone
>mention League Affiliation, Names of Gary, or sexual preference or
>whether the battery (if they had one) was on concrete with or without
>the little red wagon. :-)
>
>I get in the novice bands and I slow down to 10 wpm. Was I going too
>fast? I figured I was doing my part to help someone come up to speed
>for the General AND higher classes of license. Was I wrong?
Geeze, read what I said. The Novice/Tech segments are small, and they're
all that Novices and Techs get. It is rude for Extra, Advanced, or General
stations to use those frequencies for contacts with *other than Novices
or Techs* when they have a much larger band of frequencies to choose for
their contact. What I'm saying is that it's polite to *give the Novices
and Techs a break* by not carrying on Extra-Extra contacts in the little
slices available to the Novice/Tech classes.
Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV | Where my job's going, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | I don't know. It might | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | wind up in Mexico. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -NAFTA Blues |
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Date: 18 Nov 1993 14:26:03 GMT
From: destroyer!news1.oakland.edu!vela.acs.oakland.edu!prvalko@uunet.uu.net
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <BAT.93Nov16143031@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM>, <2cds4a$gci@oak.oakland.edu>, <mosier.54.0@fagan.uncg.edu>
Subject : Re: TEN TEC OMNI V OWNERS!!!
Stephen Mosier (mosier@fagan.uncg.edu) wrote:
: In article <2cds4a$gci@oak.oakland.edu> prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu
: (prvalko) writes:
: >dollars. The Omni V has a superlative receiver but few of the bells and
: >whistles (including general coverage) that virtually every other
: >manufacturer builds in as standard equipment.
: I have an OMNI VI, so the bells and whistles comment doesn't apply (it has
: them), but the receiver comment does. I bought it for the receiver
: quality. When I want to listen to shortwave broadcasts, I'll buy a
: shortwave receiver.
: w3grg
: steve
I'm not one to flame Steve, but he was asking about the Omni V, not the
Omni IV which, as any TenTec head knows, has a lot of DSP toys, so your
comment doesn't apply. I agree, if I want CG, I'll buy a Sony 2010.
73 paul wb8zjl
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